is there anyone who has a photograph of dragon witness?
thanks for helping

Whats dragon witness? Did a dragon witness a crime and is now in protective custody?

I don't believe there is a credible photograph of either a dragon nor any dragon witness.

so it mean its impossible for me to find any dragon photograph?

I'm not aware of any credible dragon photographs. Good luck, and welcome to U-M.

Please search past topics for anything having to do with dragons, I believe we're unofficially no longer allowed to talk about them.

is it? well sorry then, i'm new here and i dont know the rule here

Not to worry, somebody (Wraithgod) is full of themselves. Dragon threads do indeed, occasionally, appear on the U-M Crypto forum.

No we are allowed, but they generally go down the route of Dragons are real and that's that, and that we never see there dead bodies or them alive because they have uber powers and can hide themselves, or eat witnesses, or take over the mind and make you believe you are looking at a log or something else. They become pointless if to argue the point of their existence is to try and give them amazing powers that will answer any skeptical question about them.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-7/31030.html

this is the only supposed photo of a dragon i can find but there is also one taken at a university in china that had a fair few witnesses but it just looks like a lightening bolt shaped like a dragon.

Now somebody else (Incorrigible1) is underexaggerating. Dragon threads are not just occasional here, they are constantly being spewed out onto our boards. What happens is they go for at least 50 pages because of certain members reluctance to even acknowledge that the other members are possibly correct (This goes for both sides of the argument) and then Saru comes and closes the topic, gives a strong warning which is duly ignored and another two dragon threads pop up.

Really, its about time we properly banned dragon topics on this board unless they have been cleared by a mod first. We've discussed everything about them and they are ruining a perfectly nice board.

Well to be fair, there seems to be times where Bigfoot is leader on the boards and then times when the dragons take over.

For the last couple weeks it has been Bigfoot. But maybe it is time for the dragon threads to rise again.

At least the BF people (Well most of them anyway.) do not give BF magical, religious, extra dimensional superpowers.

The non-hoax photos of Nessie, Champ, Oggopoggo, and others are probably photos of real dragons. That's why we haven't caught these creatures yet, dragons are smarter than most humans.

im one of them. bf doesnt have magical powers (unless u ask my elders, who give every animal powers). its just an animal not well looked for and avoids people

Sadly, in my opinion, all of them are hoaxes, misidentifications or another explainable cause. How on earth do you know which ones are genuine pictures of actual animals? Please produce one that is generally accepted as being 100% non-hoax. Now.

Lol. Very blunt of you Undeadskeptic


louis last, I found that website you posted hilarious just because of the following words



What exactly is a dragon-shaped object?

Well, there ARE Komodo Dragons, after all.

Not true, there is nothing to stop members discussing this topic however we do try to restrict the number of threads on them so that the cryptozoology board isn't taken over by them as has been known to happen in the past, usually one active thread is sufficient at any given time.


"Dragons are smarter than humans" is about an unsubstantiated a statement as you can make; 'dragons' are not believed to exist and are not formally recognised as genuine creatures anywhere in science, how then can you make a statement like this about how intelligent something is that has never been observed, studied or catalogued ? You can't possibly know this to state it so assuredly as hard fact and you do this all the time. "In my opinion if dragons existed they would be more intelligent than humans" would be a much more acceptable comment, you must make it clear when something is your opinion, if you make statements like this then all you do is open yourself up to criticism and attack from other members.

I'd also like to see an example of a 'non-hoax' photograph of one of the abovementioned lake monsters.

But this 'opinion' was once held by most of the world. Virtually every culture that acknowledged dragons also acknowledged they were very wise. I am merely echoing one of the typical attributes assigned to dragons by the human race. It is only very late in human development that this trend changes that they become simply monsters to enhance the reputation of the heroes who slay them in nonsensical stories. For for centuries, the world's most advanced cultures acknowledged dragons or similar flying serpents taught them many skills like domestication, agriculture, writing, etc. By the time these stories were written, the early beliesfs about dragons as gods or assistancts to gods were largely forgotten.

There is a good deal of film footage and still photos of apparent lake monsters that have withstood the scrutiny of experts and remain probable large unknown animals. Some were taken in the presence of witnesses and could not be hoaxed. There have also been sonor scans of large unknown creatures, and in the case of Champ, an actual 'voice' of an unknown animal in a lake where the cryptid is generally considered to be some kind of large reptile. And if they are intelligent as humans have stated for centuries, we may not get better evidence because they are so wary.

It is a logical fallacy to assume that because something was widely believed that therefore it is true. It doesn't matter how widely the concept was believed, "dragons are smarter than humans" is not an established fact and should not be presented as such, it is an opinion based on your belief that these ancient cultures were referring to a real creature.


Could you provide us with some examples please ?

The majority of people will not be won over by such an arguement. They require solid physical proof.

The same arguement exists for wild men / bigfoot / yeti. That they are known world wide and are reputed to be wise and crafty. But, we have no body of them either. The only thing on the side of the yeti is that at least it does not have the unbelievable traits of a dragon, such as huge reptilian bodies, huge wings, dangerous breath and magical or religious powers.

Altough dragon existence is being dispute, but there are many social culture folklore tell about them. Is this a proof that dragon exist? or at least it was exist a long time ago?

No, as folk lore often suffers from centuries of oral confusion. What we are told as if it was the same story that a native people somewhere told a millenia ago is in fact heavily influenced by other cultural influences.

Ancient people's explanation for the fossils of mega-fauna and dinosaurs.

Exaggeration buddy. The fish gets bigger every time.

DC, I would like to see these photos and videos of the lake monsters which are 100% non-hoaxes. Please provide a link so we can all see these important photos and videos.

precisely, lake monsters haven't been proven to exist so they cant be used as proof of dragons.

dragon legends are too great to be dismissed as a myth. every culture isolated from each other has dragons in their stories and folklore. also, dinosaur bones are found on every continent, so we can at least consider the legends were based on findings of dinosaur bones

almost certainly a dragon shaped extra terrestrial space craft.

Most of the world used to hold the opinion that the earth was flat, that earth was the center of the solar system, that witches and magic really existed, etc, etc. Do you belive in all of that?

Most every culture as a variation of the "Boogey Man" So does this mean that there is possibly a shadowy figure living in my closet or under my bed?

It's what happens during dust-bunny breeding season.

my uncle in 1962 a week ago tell about his experience encounter with dragon. Its shape like china dragon with green body and red tail, body diameter about 30 Cm and it also can fly
another story happened in nusakambangan island near my place, a farmer there said that he had kill a dragon and take its horn, but sorry no picture at all

P.S. sorry my english is bad

r u sure it wasnt a small gecko/newt that just hopped?

here is one..

LOL!

There are no pictures of Dragons because they don't exist.

Probably fake, but cool...

No actually most of the more sophisticated ancient peoples knew the earth was round and calculated its almost exact circumferance. And these same peoples also believed that large flying dragons existed, and seeing them in those times seemed to have been a common occurance. Any phenomena that man does not understand could be considered 'magic' until an explanation is discovered.

There are many such things, which is why there is this forum called 'unexplained mysteries'. We still see the dragons, only now we are more comfortable assigning them other names.

That is only your opinion, and an opinion that contradicts thousands of years of recorded human sightings and interactions with creatures we now call dragons. Many photos of lake monsters are probably the same creatures our ancestors knew as dragons. This is logical, because these lake monsters are seen in the same regions that dragons were reported in earlier.

It seems they are far too wary and clever to allow close up pictures of them taken nowadays, and this is understandable, considering they were almost universally recognized as intelligent creatures.

Draconic Chronicler, would you consider it accurate to say that there is no photographic evidence of the dragons you talk about?

The only thing you would ever get is blurry photos of the supposed lochness monster and possibly a few shoddy pterosaur pics. which is definitely not evidence.

To the OP

It kind of depends what it is you are asking.
If you are asking for clarified proof of real dragons flying our skies there are none. None that are without doubt anyway.

But there is a different kind of real to which there is lots of evidence.
Throughout history, as has been said before on this forum, there has been genuine belief of monsters, beasties and of course dragons.
The affect the belief in dragons has had has left its mark all over our world.

Look at the Chinese customs with their dragon boat races, their new year. One building was even erected with a huge hole in it so the supposed dragon in the mountain could see the river below (which the bilding would have been obstructing)

Look at the English. The apothacaries of old were so interweaved with the dragon myths that many of their potions and remedies were said to have dragons parts in it and their signs often bore a dragon.

There are even scholars and philosophers in different time periods and clultures which conjured their own proofs and material evidences to show people that dragons existed.

Topsell was a Monk and writer who wrote about many beasts and one of those was of course the dragon. If you are able to get hold of any of his writings they make for very interesting reading.
Other such names are worth looking for such as Pliny the Elder, Peter Dickinson (although his is not genuine it is fascinating, i know because i have spoken to him at length) The writings of Xenochtitlan (the spelling may be incorrect, sorry) and many more.

Reading these, although dated and without modern proof are exceptional views into how some people did believe in dragons and the affect such beliefs held over the world.

No, because a good deal of photos and film of large, unidentified creatures have yet to be debunked. For example, many people foolishly think the Loch Ness Monster is fake merely because only one, well known photo has now been an admitted fake. There are dozens of others as well as very compelling eyewitness accounts that definately suggest a large reptilian creature.

Draconic Chronicler, are you currently in possession of any photo or film of a large, unidentified creature, such as the ones that you are talking about? A photo or film that you believe is a dragon.

There are no pictures of dragons, but there are thousands of statues and paintings of dragons in all parts of the world which are centuries old.

small gecko? show me your small gecko that has 1 feet in diameter and 10 yard long
by the way here is a video from sumatra, Indonesia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9QmlY5Wqio
this video taken after dragon ceremony in langkat, sumatra

that's called light.

Hi everyone, i am mac.i don't believe that the dragons exist in this century.it's quite hard to get a dragons photo or the dragons witness.anyway, if you are very much interested in dragons,then try your best to get the photographs of it.anyway it's good to meet you.have a nice day.

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One good example is the color photograph of Champ featured on the Monsterquest segment featuring that creature. No one believes it is forged, though some claim it is only a monster shaped log. It appears to be a long necked creature much like the popular conception of of lake monster/dragon. The people who saw the creature at that moment are absolutely convinced they saw a living animal and not a 'log'.

There are numerous sighting of this creature going back to the native americans, and a scientist has recorded echo-location of an unknown species in the same lake this 'monster' has been sighted in.