um, how do you figure? when was it supposed to happen?

I guess a lot of seasonal birds will lose their direction and will be confused where to immigrate.

If the field strength just reduces a bit during flip, we won't be hurt by Sun rays and cosmos rays. Otherwise we could only dig a hole and hide us underground. In the worst case, if field is very weak, atmosphere will escape gradually, Earth will be Mars-like year after year. But it never happened before, seems it won't happen in the future either.

Global warming could be caused by 3 factors.

Maybe the Sun sends us more energy in infrared and violet rather than visible light. Since it's dimming.

Second, who knows what's going on inside Earth? Is it hotter than before?

Third, human being's activity: killing trees and producing air pollution.

Well if everyone plants trees as more as possible, it will help us pass any climate change. A big tree before my window makes the room cool in summer, warm in winter. Do you have the same experience?

Poleshift,

If I am not mistaken what keeps the atmosphere from escaping is not the magnetic field but the gravity. This is the reason why Mars atmosphere is approximately 10 times thinner.

The changes in the Solar constant are negligible so for now we can assume that the Sun flux is constant. It is true that the Sun is dimming, but this process is so slow that we will not experience any difference in our lifetime.
You are right that human activities pollute the planet and may cause global warming. But planting trees is not an answer. The lifetime of greenhouse gasses is hundreds of years. If we stop producing pollution now (which is obviously impossible) we will see the result after a century.

But going back to the original topic about the pole shift. Here is my opinion. Everything depends on how fast the process will occur. The main danger I guess is the dissapearence of the magnetic field for a certain amount of time. All cosmic particles blocked by the field before, will be able to penetrate the atmosphere and eventualy cause threat to all species.

wow...you know...that's a great logical point...possibly this is the normal current of events during a pole shift...i think you make a great point two thumbs up!

You are right. Maybe I should say atmosphere will be ionized and disappear instead of 'escape'. With a weak geomagnetic field, Earth doesn't have a shell. High energy Sun and cosmic particles will ionize the molecules in atmosphere and give ions high energy to escape Earth. Maybe this is why Mars atmosphere is much thinner than before.

Could you find the website for us? Which do you mean flux, light flux or flux in all frequency spectrum?

2500 years ago, some area only had two seasons: spring and autumn. At that time, it had much lower popularity and much more froest and almost no pollution. Now in some area it has only two seasons: summer and winter, with high popularity, forests you can name a few, polluted air, water, earth. After testing, it is said forest is like a filter. You give it polluted water, it gives you clear water. Obvious, it transfers carbon dioxide to oxygen in daytime. They just found high density oxygen made Earth enclosed by ice. Here is the link. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=13708
This is a method to modify the global warming.

You are right. Maybe I should say atmosphere will be ionized and disappear instead of 'escape'. With a weak geomagnetic field, Earth doesn't have a shell. High energy Sun and cosmic particles will ionize the molecules in atmosphere and give ions high energy to escape Earth. Maybe this is why Mars atmosphere is much thinner than before.

Could you find the website for us? Which do you mean flux, light flux or flux in all frequency spectrum?

Are you sure?
2500 years ago, some area only had two seasons: spring and autumn. At that time, it had much lower population and much more froest and almost no pollution. Now in some area it has only two seasons: summer and winter, with high population, forests you can name a few, polluted air, water, earth. After testing, it is said forest is like a filter. You give it polluted water, it gives you clear water. It transfers carbon dioxide to oxygen in daytime. They just found much less density of carbon dioxide made Earth enclosed by ice. Here is the link. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=13708
This is a method to modify the global warming.

By definition the Solar constant is the amount of solar energy (covering the entire Solar spectrum) reaching the top of the atmosphere. The Solar constant is approximately 1366 W/m2. Sun flux means the energy rate. The Laboratory of Space Physics (LASP) in Boulder, Colorado started recently an experiment called SOURCE and one of the main goals is to detect any changes in the total Solar flux (solar constant).

Here is some info for you of the results from the mission:
link

So I still insist on what I said before. The Sun constant may vary, but not too much.

OK, so now let's go the planting trees issue. I had a hard time undertanding your point about the seasonal variability, but I agree that plants convert CO2 to O2 in the daytime. My point is that the plants can not compensate the CO2 emission coming from human activities. Tons of CO2 are emitted each day in the world from the cars and airplanes only. And I don't even mention anything about biomass burning, or industrial processes. Some of the CO2 reacts with other gasses and is deposited back to the ground, some is processed by the plants but part of it stays in the atmosphere. It acumulates because it has a long lifetime and warms the planet acting as a greenhouse gas. This is the reason why I think that planting trees is not the answer if we keep our CO2 emissions the same.

By going to 4th dimension do you mean traveling in time in any direction?
Well, I read several times about the DNA change that will transform the humans and the new vibrations that will occur around 2011-2012. Everybody says that the humans become aware of the changes and they start to appreciate what's going on with our planet, etc. Unfortunatelly I live in a big polluted city with a lot of crime and somehow I do not see these new vibrations..

Thank you for the explanation and the link.

Perhaps it is caused by misspelling 'population'. Try it again.

Is it smaller or bigger? Is it calculated annually? If so, it has a peak value every
11 years. Last year it reached the utmost. Please give more detail about the Sun
constant.

Solar radiation is the dominant among the three factors I mentioned. Comparing
the last two factors with solar radiation is like comparing night city light to daylight.
Even if the constant does not vary too much, maybe the fluctuation is not
negligible.

Because the number of forest is not enough. Hope you have a software to simulate
the effects of increasing the number of forest. For example, if in Sahara, there was
a duplicate of Amazon, what will happen? Or contrary, if Amazon is not there
anymore. That's for sure it will be worse. So why not produce more Amazon?
I still believe forest in large scale will help us pass any climate change.

That means they've killed a lot of forests in several centuries and it caused dust
storms at least. That's maybe one reason for global warming. Wish your colleague
could simulate if there were forests in these area.

I agree with you there is many components affecting climate system.
Well, warmer climate also means forests grow faster thus convert more. Warmer
ocean also means sea plants grow more and convert more.
It's hard or almost impossible for you to prove your theory that more forests will
decrease CO2 is incorrect. Because we don't have more forests but less at
present. Hope you and your colleague will find a software to prove your theory
and show us here.

Let me tell another truth to prove my idea that forests will let climate more
convenient. (seems we are talking about different things?)
In Japan, recently, they've plant on the roof of buildings in cities. It makes rooms
inside buildings cool in summer and warm in winter. They save a lot of electricity
power on air conditionner.

Yes, this is the mean smoothed line and the spikes are the raw data.

Yes it was retrieved from four different remote sensors.

In general there are two types of satellites - geostationary and polar orbiting. I will not go into details but the SOURCE is a polar orbiting satellite and this is the reason why it orbits between 600 and 800 km.

Yes, in general this is the case if the land allows it, ones turned into a desert it is hard to force trees to grow there.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that trees don't clean the air, I say that even if we double the forests this will not help if we keep our CO2 emissions same. And my argument is that the lifetime of CO2 is very long.

I believe tha reason for that is that the leaves process very well the moisture in the air...

The SOURCE satelllite was launched on January, 2003. They have new data for the Solar constant for the entire 2003, but it is not visualized yet. They provide free access to the data fileson the website. If you are entusiastic you can download the data and plot it I'll keep loking and if I find something new I'll let you know

If we keep our CO2 emissions same, but increase more O2 emission. Though the
lifetime of CO2 is very long, since CO2 is heavier than O2, O2 will occupy the
space of CO2. The more O2 emitted, the more space of CO2 will be replaced by
O2. Keep on emitting more O2. After certain time, global warming will be modified.
Is it?

Please give more details.
Because geomagnetic field strength is decreased when pole shifting. Less cosmic
and solar particles will be blocked or captured than before. Is this one reason for
skin cancer? Will this affect the solar constant? Strictly speaking, does solar
constant include cosmic radiation? Recently cosmic radiation is increasing. Will it
increase global warming?

Suppose there is SOURCE2 at low orbit. The solar constant measured by these two
satellites will be much different?

Lots of climate factors. They are linked together. Too complicated.

Yes, Earth's magnetic field "blocks" high energy cosmic particles to penetrate the atmosphere... But the main reason for the skin cancer is the ozone depletion. The ozone layer in the stratosphere absorbs the UV light.

No, the Solar constant is the total flux coming from the Sun per unit area on the top of the atmosphere. The Sun "does not care" if the Earth has a magnetic field or not.

No.

Is it? I did not know that...

Actually it will be the same...

Hi antares, a late thank for your reply.

I read an article about it in last 2 years. Don't remember when and where.

Just a brief description. The recent increasing cosmic radiation is caused by solar
pole shift which happens every 11 years. During this flip, for some unknow reason,
the reversal halted. So the originally blocked cosmic rays enter the solar system.
I'm wondering if the flip this time finished or not yet.

Is there anybody in your field(biology or planetary?) or other field studying the
relationship between the global warming and geomagnetic field pole shift?