so are these real test on internet
The Pendulum Test
The "Apple" / "Banana" test
can't figure out the apple test must be a dutch thing
the pendudum worked fine ...if it's real
source www.uyta.com
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so are these real test on internet
The Pendulum Test
The "Apple" / "Banana" test
can't figure out the apple test must be a dutch thing
the pendudum worked fine ...if it's real
source www.uyta.com
so are these real test on internet
The Pendulum Test
The "Apple" / "Banana" test
can't figure out the apple test must be a dutch thing
the pendudum worked fine ...if it's real
source www.uyta.com
I activated the pendulum test, then left it running while I went to pour myself a cup of tea and fetch the morning paper. Took me about two or three minutes. When I came back, the pendulum was swinging off then screen, then gradually slowled to a stop.
Either I'm so darned powerful I can make it stop while not even thinking about it, or the test it rigged. My personal opinion? It's set to come to a stop at random intervals.
The apple/banana test is, for all intents and purposes, outright deception. By simply generating a number randomly, you can, and as a matter of fact should, get several sequences of the same number several times in a row. In other words, if you flip a coin one hundred times, you will find times when you get heads two, three, four, and even five times in a row. All the flips together will average to 50/50, but sequences are not only not unusual, they are expected. That the site claims it to be proof positive of paranatural powers is at best naive, at worse fraud.
Either I'm so darned powerful I can make it stop while not even thinking about it, or the test it rigged. My personal opinion? It's set to come to a stop at random intervals.
The apple/banana test is, for all intents and purposes, outright deception. By simply generating a number randomly, you can, and as a matter of fact should, get several sequences of the same number several times in a row. In other words, if you flip a coin one hundred times, you will find times when you get heads two, three, four, and even five times in a row. All the flips together will average to 50/50, but sequences are not only not unusual, they are expected. That the site claims it to be proof positive of paranatural powers is at best naive, at worse fraud.
I don't know about these tests.. but micro-pk is real, it has been reported by many different researchers. You can learn more here:
http://www.fpc.edu/pages/Academics/behave/...ych/web93-3.htm
Note: it is a .edu website, so it is credible.
http://www.fpc.edu/pages/Academics/behave/...ych/web93-3.htm
Note: it is a .edu website, so it is credible.
Very sad test....I made it stop by singing disturbed at it. Not believing in psi to begin with, I must have one hell of a powerful voice 
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| Skeptics. The more you doubt about how to change your selection, the more difficult changing the selection will be. |
Perhaps the single most evasive and "you can't prove me wrong, nah nah nah nah nah!" answer I have ever come across
Whether this actual phenominon is real or not, I can't really say...but these test certainly aren't.
What if when you flip a coin you can make it turn out heads for 10, 15 or even 20 times without getting tails? Is that considered micro-PK? I once got thirty times.
According to how many trials you need to do that... 
Just set up an experiment and throw coin 100 times. Record all outcomes from the [/i]first[/i] trial. If you score above 50 then it is positive. If you run this experiment more than once, you should note if your score actually increases over time, or remains high.
Just set up an experiment and throw coin 100 times. Record all outcomes from the [/i]first[/i] trial. If you score above 50 then it is positive. If you run this experiment more than once, you should note if your score actually increases over time, or remains high.
| QUOTE (Druidus @ Mar 23 2004, 07:26 PM) |
| What if when you flip a coin you can make it turn out heads for 10, 15 or even 20 times without getting tails? Is that considered micro-PK? I once got thirty times. |
That's just probability.
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| That's just probability. |
Even when you can consistantly do it?
| QUOTE (Druidus @ Mar 23 2004, 09:20 PM) | ||
Even when you can consistantly do it? |
Well you have a 50/50 chance either way, so you have as much chance of getting head, head , head. head etc.
as you do of getting head, tail, head , tail etc.
Each flip of the coin does not affect the outcome of the other, so no matter how many times you get a head, you're just as likely to get it again.
if you get a 100/100 total bet youre special!
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| Note: it is a .edu website, so it is credible. |
Ah, no, it just means that whoever put it up has access to an educational institution's server. It could be anyone from a doctor of physics to the new freshman computer geek.
Still, this was a well written, well sourced article. The part it fell short on, however, was statistics. It made a couple of common mistaken assumptions.
The first was that small samples can be theoretically magnified and still retain statistical signifigance. For instance, the coin flip test that we have been posting about. If you flip the coin ten times, statistically you will average 50/50. But if you are only flipping the coin ten times, you may well get random series of three or four times in a row, which would then make the outcome 60/40 or even 70/30. But that is only in a series of ten flips. Overall, the more times a coin is flipped, the numbers average out again as the random long series are canceled out by the more regular numbers. Therefore, taking a result of ten flips, and claiming that a result of 7/3 is the same as a result of 70% is misleading. Mathematicaly, it is correct. Statistically, it is not.
The second is significant variation. If the statistical variation of a coin flip is 50/50, it means that half the data resulted in results less than 50/50 and half in results greater than 50/50. In that bell curve of results, the extreme ends will have results of 60/40 or even 70/30, only to be balanced out at the other end by results of 40/60 and 30/70. Thus, statistically, the results are 50/50, but individual results can vary greatly. When trying to show a significant variation, the results one produces has to go past the extreme end of the bell curve, into the 80/20 range. Using the average, the 50/50, is inadequate.
I dont get why people are arguing about coin flips, lol. If people can move things with their mind, why not flip a coin to the desired side with tk also?
That people can move things with their mind is not, as of yet, a foregone conclusion. The whole purpose of the past several posts is to define what would constitute evidence of such an ability.
So, its just another "pencil" test basically?
| QUOTE (Druidus @ Mar 23 2004, 07:26 PM) |
| What if when you flip a coin you can make it turn out heads for 10, 15 or even 20 times without getting tails? Is that considered micro-PK? I once got thirty times. |
I once saw a statistics documentary with a man who could flip a coin and get heads every time - he had practiced his flipping the coin so that it was the same every time. Is that what you've done?
If not the odds of getting heads 30 out of 30 flips is 1 out of 1,073,741,824. (Did I do the math right? (1/2)^30.)
bad odds...wow
Duh.. that link was not posted by a freshmen computer geek. Don't you know that educational institutions usualy put a special servers for personal homepage? Not everybody can upload a document to something with "Academics slash behave slash psych" as the URL.
and how do you explain this?
and how do you explain this?
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| Under the same standard conditions the results were recorded. They threw six dice at a time from a cardboard cup onto a table with a padded top (Rhine, 1967). They completed this process four times each in which 24 dice were rolled. The result was that both sides won, rather not against each other but against chance (Rhine 1967). The scores recorded were so similar that neither group could be considered the winner. A total of 540 runs were thrown by the gamblers with a positive deviation of 282, an average run score of 4.52 per run instead of 4.00 to be expected by chance (Rhine, 1967). The ministerial students, on the other hand, threw 702 runs and got a deviation above expectation of 359, an average of 4.51 (Rhine, 1967). The end result showed that the combined results were four times higher as is necessary in general science to be considered significant. This experiment began the long search for further evidence in the existence of psychokinesis. |
how is that psychokinesis? i thought that was influencing other peoples minds psychically...
The distinction between PK and TK has just being made up by psions lately. It hasn't affected the general public yet.
ok, i see. Did you read that PM yet?
| QUOTE (gnalaj @ Mar 24 2004, 12:30 AM) |
| If not the odds of getting heads 30 out of 30 flips is 1 out of 1,073,741,824. (Did I do the math right? (1/2)^30.) |
No?
You have a 50/50 chance each time, so surely the likely hood of getting 30 heads is 50/50, you either get a head, or a tails. The amount of flips you do has no bearing on the likelyhood of you being able to get another head, its still 50/50 each flip.
Duh.. learn something about probability theory... we are talking about getting heads 30 times out of 30 flips 
I may have messed up , but I believe its actually
1/2,147,483,648
1/2,147,483,648
No.. that is (1/2)^31
PROBABILITY FOR DUMMIES
The probability of getting head out of 1 flip is 1/2
If we flip the coin twice:
The probability of getting head on the first flip is 1/2
The probability of getting head of the 2nd flip is also 1/2
The probability of getting head both times is:
Probability of getting head on the 1st flip X Probability of getting head on the 2nd flip
or (1/2)*(1/2)=(1/4)
If we flip the coin three times
The probability of getting all heads is (1/2)^3
etc...
CONCLUSSION:
The chance of getting heads 30 times out of 30 flips is not 50/50
PROBABILITY FOR DUMMIES
The probability of getting head out of 1 flip is 1/2
If we flip the coin twice:
The probability of getting head on the first flip is 1/2
The probability of getting head of the 2nd flip is also 1/2
The probability of getting head both times is:
Probability of getting head on the 1st flip X Probability of getting head on the 2nd flip
or (1/2)*(1/2)=(1/4)
If we flip the coin three times
The probability of getting all heads is (1/2)^3
etc...
CONCLUSSION:
The chance of getting heads 30 times out of 30 flips is not 50/50
i have a cool test
edgar cayce esp test
good luck (and you need shockwave player to use the test)
OH OH! another one with chance statistics as you go:pick a card any card...
edgar cayce esp test
good luck (and you need shockwave player to use the test)
OH OH! another one with chance statistics as you go:pick a card any card...
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