How is it a good indication for a existence of a "soul" ?

Soul -
1a :the spiritual principle embodied in human beings, all rational and spiritual beings, or the universe.

2:a person's total self

3: an active or essential part b : a moving spirit .

You said it is a good indication for the existence of a soul, when really there is no evidence a soul exist. What you gave is just an assertion. You have no sort of evidence to support the claim of a soul existing. Even "if" near death experience is possible or is real like people believe it to be, how does this prove a soul exist?

The Buddha teaches that what we call this ego, self, a soul, or personality, etc, are merely conventional terms that do not refer to any real, independent entity. According to Buddhism there is no reason to believe that there is an eternal soul that comes from heaven or that is created by itself that allows you to exist and that will transmigrate or proceed straight away either to heaven or hell after death. Buddhists cannot accept that there is anything either in this world or any other world that is eternal or unchangeable. We only cling to ourselves and hope to find something immortal. We are like children who wish to clasp a rainbow. To children, a rainbow is something vivid and real; but the grown-ups know that it is merely an illusion caused by certain rays of light and drops of water. The light is only a series of waves or undulations that have no more reality than the rainbow itself.

You may believe in a soul but you arent in a position to explain what or where it is.'What im stating is that only through "ignorance" and "delusion" do men indulge in the dream that their souls are" separate and self-existing entities".

Painfully thinking, many people still have the misconception that the soul is the consciousness. The Buddha declared in unequivocal terms that consciousness depends on matter, sensation, perception and mental formations and that is cannot exist independently of them.

About those researches of modern scientists who are now more inclined to assert that the so-called 'Soul' is no more than a bundle of sensations, emotions, sentiments, all relating to the physical experiences, A Prof. James I read about a time ago says that the term 'Soul' is a mere figure of speech to which no reality corresponds.




HAving no evidence or proof of a soul and still believing it exist is just wishful thinking.

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Actually, you’re wrong. I care to an extent about what he had to say; only the good teachings not all his teachings overall. I never reject knowledge it doesn’t matter where it comes from.

No, that is not my position, and neither is it the question at hand.

Just because scientist don’t know how to totally explain the conscious doesn’t mean a soul exist, your just going on plain assumption; your speaking as if there is no other possible reason for a "NDE". O scientist can’t explain the conscious or the human mind and people are thought to have had NDEs so a soul must exist!

If were going to make claims or assumptions, lets put some evidence behind them.

Sorry, that's not my intention.

I'm not trying to say that there is no other possible explination, I'm just saying science hasn't found one and science does not factor the possibility of anything other than physical answers.

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It just sounded that way to me, looks as if from reading you were pointing and giving weight "directly" towards the existence of a soul.

If it wasent intended that way ok but, I just asked a simple question, how is it a good indication for a soul?(which is still unanswered) thats all I asked You said a good indication...what exacltly makes it a good indication for the soul existing besides that scientist havent figured out the mind?? In that case its a good indication for the soul why cant it be a good indication for something else besides the soul. You were giving weight towards the soul existing.

If the consciousness was merely caused by the interaction of physical matter in the brain wouldn't neurosurgeons have figured out how to control it by now? They know if you stimulate areas of the brain you can make a person move his hand, talk, swallow against their will.
They'll say to the doctor 'I didn't do that, you did that!"
There is no area of the brain they can stimulate to control what a person thinks. The mind and the brain interact but seem to be two different things.

It depends clearly on their knowledge.

True. But scientists assume there isn't anything supernatural.

Well.. let's see... if extraterrestrial exists... aren't they just natural beings??
If ghosts are proven to exists... aren't we going to call them natural??

Only if science can explain them.

If I can touch ETs then they are physical (natrual), if I cant touch a ghost and they are proven to exist but not clearly understoond fully, I would say they are "supernatural".

But seriously we are getting off topic.

And all you have is a hypothesis(by the way big word final flight) that we will know the answers when we die. How can you know this. What your are saying is not only a guess but is almost contradicting what you are saying.

Ok so if it's that easy to avoid death why don't more people do it? If you are dying/dead, and your 'soul' is heading through the tunnel, and you can easily just say "well I am still not finished doing what I want on Earth, so I'm going back!"
I am sure ALOT more people would be making this decision!
If coming back from death is as easy as turning around and saying 'maybe some other time...' then I doubt so many children, healthy young adults, parents leaving children behind, etc. would continue down the path toward the light. They would all come back. So that makes me wonder....

Soooooo what about the other 9 in 10 patients? Why don't they experience their soul leaving when they make a comeback from dying? If it were true everyone would experience it, not only a select few?