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user posted imageTitanic waves - seven times as high and long as those blown up on the Earth's oceans - may swell on the sludgy seas of Saturn's moon Titan, suggest new computer simulations.The giant moon has intrigued scientists for decades. A uniquely dense and opaque atmosphere obscures Titan's surface, which may be partially paved with ice, dotted with liquid seas, or spiked with volcanoes."If Huygens does have some liquid expanse, what kind of waves would it see? How alien would it be to us?" wondered planetary scientist Nadeem Ghafoor. He is involved with the surface science package for Huygens, a European Space Agency probe that will parachute into Titan's atmosphere in January 2005.To answer the question, Ghafoor and colleagues tweaked computer simulations of Earth's ocean waves, although he acknowledges Titan's properties are not well known.The model assumes Titan is pockmarked with seas made of 70 per cent ethane, 25 per cent methane, and 5 per cent nitrogen, and partially coated with an oily sludge.He varied the size of the seas between one and several hundred kilometres, and the surface wind speed between one and 20 kilometres per hour.

This upper wind speed is slow compared to winds on Earth because the Sun's effect on the atmosphere is much smaller at Titan's distance.Titan's gravity, the relative densities of its atmosphere and seas, and the seas' viscosity and surface tension all went into his model.For the smallest wind-whipped waves - ripples no larger than a few centimetres high - factors such as viscosity and surface tension determine their shape and size. But for anything larger, Titan's gravity, which is one seventh that of the Earth and about the same as our Moon, dominates.

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joc
Why aren't we sending probes to Titan? Do we know for sure that the seas are made of methane? How can we know that?
wunarmdscissor
Because joc the cassini huygen probe arrived there this year joc and is sending back loads of info on saturn and its moons,

Check this part of the nasa site for more info http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/index.cfm

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thebarman
....and lets not forget it says in the text they are sending a probe for Jan 2005, did you actually read this Joc?

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a European Space Agency probe that will parachute into Titan's atmosphere in January 2005
joc
Actually, uh...........no....I didn't read the rest of the article..... blink.gif

Thanks for doing my homework for me guys!!!! w00t.gif
PsychicPenguin
Considering we have methane breathing bacteria here on earth.... w00t.gif
PurpleStuart
Yeah, something that isn't touched on in the original article is that if we send a probe to the surface of titan, isn't there the possiblity of that probe carrying bacteria from earth to Titan and therefore the 'danger' of spreading life there. I assume they have already taken this into acount.
buggyelfmaiden
They probably thing that the radiation in space will kill any Earth Born bactieria...

But hm... Let's see... how many movies has hollywierd made about alien viruses? whistling2.gif bounce.gif abduct.gif
PurpleStuart
life is much hardier than most people give it credit
buggyelfmaiden
know what you mean... Look at the variety of lifeforms we have here on Earth.

And we have some that live in places that one would think life was impossible.

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