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user posted imageA man with a skeptical bent, Greg Long, has published a book, The Making Of Bigfoot — The Inside Story, in which he claims to have found not only the man who wore the gorilla suit in the famous 1967 film of a female Bigfoot but also the guy who supplied the suit. There is no doubt that the film has been the best — although not the only — piece of evidence for the animal. It is about 60 seconds of hastily shot footage of a female Bigfoot ambling across a clearing in northern California. Two men, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin, claimed to have stumbled across the creature as they wandered through the woods. The odds against acceptance of the film should have been pretty high. After all, the two men had announced in advance they were out looking for a Bigfoot and no other convincing visual record of the animal has turned up since. But even though there were plenty of people who immediately dismissed it as a hoax, the film is still taken seriously by many. This is where the "science" comes in: An endless number of self-proclaimed experts has analyzed the film (each asserting that his analysis has been "frame-by-frame," each using the latest technology) and found evidence that the creature in the film must be the real thing.

The movements of the muscles underneath the skin can be seen clearly, something that would be impossible for a man wearing a loose-fitting suit. The timing and length of the strides are not human; the rotation of the torso as the animal glances back at the camera couldn't be accomplished with a suit; the arms are too long to be human — the list goes on and on. These analyses have been muddied by the fact that Patterson wasn't sure whether the camera was set to film at 16 or 24 feet per second. One of the best studies, decades ago, claimed that at 24 feet per second, the movements were human, but that at 16 feet per second, they couldn't be. How handy for the perpetuation of the story that there was this uncertainty!

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babyforrest
How much more proof do we really need that the Patterson footage is fake? The guy who wore the monkey suit has even come forward to admit his involvment. I remember watching this show on tv over 10 years ago that showed proof that it was a costume. If you looked carefully you can see the zipper in the back. There was also something wrong with the way bigfoot walked.
DreamRebel
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babyforrest
Sorry, the first time I answered here your post didn't load properly and I wasn't able to read it. original.gif Nevermind.
STIX
I always knew it looked phony, I hate fakes
Chris_com28
Why is it so hard to create a costume even slightly believeable? What if they created a suit to match the muscular structure of the creature and stick the fur on that way? They would of least has the basic shape right. I guess this shows how many Hollywood movies rely on computers.
AbductingU
I believe in the Big Foot in California.. There were many more sightings of this mammal other than the ones shown.. Could be the Neandrathal - Human mix..w00t.gif
The forest in California is so dense not even a satallite could track anything in it.. Therefore it is a possibility that the creature exist, then again maybe not.. Without catching one and being able to contain it for questioning.. Until then we will never know, same as the rest of the stuff we stride for answers!!


Jim
Athlon64
Sorry guys, but there is no proof that the Patterson footage is a fake.
FireFrog
Why must everyone automatically believe what they read?

As soon as a post say that some guy "thinks" hes debunked the footage you all believe it... there is NO hard evidence, and the man who came forth could have easily been seeking attention. Hell, people even admit to comitting murders they didn't commit and being rape victims! wacko.gif Why should this be any different.

Theres been plenty of evidence to back up this footage and plenty against it. We don't know for sure.

I for one think that this footage just might be the real deal...
AbductingU
QUOTE (FireFrog @ Apr 7 2004, 09:47 AM)
Why must everyone automatically believe what they read?

Who are you replying to??
fearfulone
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The forest in California is so dense not even a satallite could track anything in it..


w00t.gif really? Have you been to the sierra nevada forests? do you live in california? i answer yes to each of those questions...i've hiked, camped, stayed over a week in those forests...they are not by any means more dense than some forests in michigan, west virginia, the north east and so forth...so i'd doubt that a sattelite, that can track a field mouse by the way, wouldnt be able to find big foot if we really tried...well hey at the same time, we cant find osama, so maybe you got a point. blink.gif besides that, point is, california forest isnt as dense as some may believe
STIX
ok, its obviously fake, Ive thought that ever since I first saw it, especially that freeze frame you can totally see the guys face and its painted grey, dont be stupid, you can see the bridge of his nose tongue.gif
but just because it was fake means nothing, bigfoot still exists, Im a firm believer, the hype around the time of the film was just as big as it is now, therefore motivation people.
AbductingU
Just adding my 2 cents fearfulone no need to be offended in anyway.. I have seen the theads on you.. whistling2.gif

Anyhow, to answer your question is no. I don't live in California, but I am a hiker, that you can see in my profile.. I am always surronded by forrest.. California has the denses forrest I have ever been in.. Other than that you are right on your other points on IF WE TRIED.. It would probably take a child being killed before we actually hunt for the mammal..

DreamRebel hell of a thread my friend!!

Thanx

Jim
fearfulone
QUOTE (AbductingU @ Apr 7 2004, 03:13 PM)
Just adding my 2 cents fearfulone no need to be offended in anyway.. I have seen the theads on you.. whistling2.gif





what's this mean? huh.gif i wasn't offended...just trying to clarify a point....

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It would probably take a child being killed before we actually hunt for the mammal..


i completely agree on this point thumbsup.gif
AbductingU
QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 8 2004, 05:17 PM)
[/QUOTE]what's this mean? huh.gif i wasn't offended...just trying to clarify a point....

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It would probably take a child being killed before we actually hunt for the mammal..


i completely agree on this point thumbsup.gif

It just means that in every thread I've been in whoever started it you would contradict their story, disagree, or just flat out offend people.. If you don't believe in something that some do, there is no need to be the way you are..



Write this one in the books Fearfulone agreeded with one of my points!!



Other than that I'll try to keep away from the threads you enter, if that's not possible I'll just have to leave the site.. Threads like this are a waste of time, and people like you are the ones that make them personal and a waste..

PEACE

Jim
fearfulone
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If you don't believe in something that some do, there is no need to be the way you are..


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Other than that I'll try to keep away from the threads you enter, if that's not possible I'll just have to leave the site.. Threads like this are a waste of time, and people like you are the ones that make them personal and a waste..


crying.gif AbductingU, please, i apologize on account of my skepticism in many of the threads and topical discussions here...i am just trying to get a proven fact...i do believe in a lot of the things here, i suppose i just like playing devil's advocate. AbductingU, i would gladly leave the forum if it were to upset you this much and i hope that we can continue to co-exist on this forum with my skeptic approach and your hard-lined belief in things...i think it makes great for debate in the forums. I apologize if i have offended you, i do have my own beliefs and do not wish for them to offend anyone. crying.gif

AbductingU, please, dont leave on account of me, and don't enter threads or topics that i am a part of just because i have input...i have respect for your threads, i just ask the same of you. crying.gif
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