I found this on about thought someone might be interested;

Automatic writing is an old form of divination in which messages seem to come out of nowhere through your hand and onto paper. Whether these messages come from the "spirit world" or the subconscious in unknown. Some who have attempted this form of mediumship have written lengthy messages, songs -- even complete novels.

Difficulty Level: Hard Time Required: 15 minutes to an hour

Here's How:
1.Find a quiet spot without distractions.
2.Sit at a table or desk where you'll be comfortable, with paper and pen (or pencil).
3.Take a few moments to clear your mind.
4.Touch the pen or pencil to the paper.
5.Try not to consciously write anything.
6.While keeping your mind as clear as possible, let your hand write whatever comes across.
7.Avoid looking at the paper; you might even keep your eyes closed.
8.Give it time to happen (nothing might happen for quite a while).
9.When it seems to be done, if and when automatic writing does occur, look over what your hand has produced carefully. The writing may appear to be nonsense or just scribbling, but try to decipher it as best as possible.
10.In addition to letters and numbers, look for pictures or symbols in the writing as well.
11.Keep trying. Nothing might happen your first few attempts.
12.If you start to achieve success, you can try asking questions to see if you can receive responses.

Tips:

*There is no guarantee that automatic writing will work for you, but don't give up if it doesn't work the first few times. Give it a chance.
*Be aware of psychological dangers. Some messages that come across might be disturbing. If you're at all not able to handle this possibility, don't attempt automatic writing.

Has anybody here actually tried automatic writing? I'm interested in some disturbing stories.

I've taken a few classes on the subject. I even have kept a few journals from time to time. What do you mean by disturbing stories? Predictions that have actually come true?

Like finding out something very bad, that you would not want to know. Or like you said, something you wrote coming true, or leading you somewhere, or to something.

Alright...when I was in my channel class. I wrote alot about N.Y. than I need to get to N.Y., but that I did not want to go because I was feeling this awful, painful, energy. My class and the instructer dismissed me. Later, I started having dreams that I was running and that there was lots of big buildings. Now I live in Chicago, and we have many large buildings. I told the class that I was sure that it was not Chicago. I then had a dream that the Twin Towers were melting, but for some reason I did not recognize they were the Twin Towers. I continued to write in my journal. That something bad was going to happen in N.Y. About a month later 9/11 hit.

I've also had some minor things come true..but the N.Y. one has been the only clear detailed one that included automatic writing and dreaming. Needless to say, the instructer paid a little more attention to me in class.

Wow, that's pretty amazing. Do you still practice automatic writing?

Do you know what you're writing while you're writing it, or are you in a trance or something and only find out what you've written later?

I know a very nice woman who does automatic writing. Her name is Judy, and she has some books published about these experiences. One book is a "conversation" that she has with a spirit guide; she writes a question on a piece of paper, and the spirit guide then uses her hand to control the pen and write an answer to the question. So it's like a conversation, going back and forth, and the spirit guide is humorous and loving, but is very clear about pointing out the important lessons in life.. That book is one of my favorite possessions.

In another book, she uses automatic writing to allow another friendly spirit to write an entire book of tales. I've read the book, and the stories are quite entertaining, and each story has a moral to it. It is a good book for children, young and old.

But yes, Judy is completely conscious and aware while she is doing this. She's not in a trance. She just sits in her living room in a comfy chair, with a pad of paper on her lap, and she quietly writes for an hour or so, sometimes softly laughing at something the spirit is writing on the paper.

- Roger

I hope Judy acdredited the spirits for their work by name. If spirits can use the internet, they can doubtlessly find a good lawyer.

Oh, we can count on lawyers to fight fair, and do right!..

Austin Powers: Ow, that really hurt! I'm gonna have a lump there, you idiot!
Who throws a shoe? Honestly!

I just tried it.. I just can't seem to write without thinking about it before it comes out.

You'd have to dig a bit to find my threads about automatic writing and ouija boards, I have a fairly sizable log from 95 of when I tried automatic writing, and I have the story of a friend of mine that was a truly disturbing story, written via automatic writing by him. Check out some of the older threads (in May) in the Phenomenon category, for some more automatic writing and ouija threads.

I never had any really disturbing experiences with automatic writing, other than not being able to do it very well the normal way, though I did have a bit of a scary visualization years back when I tried to do "channeling", following the techniques of a audio casette I checked out of a city library - I got Anubis the Ibis-Headed Egyptian God of Death, who had a few things to relate to me - that was kinda dark and felt a bit uncomfortable, for its own sake and also because I've never really cared for or been interested in Egyptian mysticism and stuff, which made me wonder why I got that. Nothing untoward happened though, it was just a useless "channeling" session (if any of them could be said to be "useful").

It doesn't matter if you think about it before it comes out. What does it matter if its "spirit communication" or creative writing on your part. Unless you are intentionally creativing a work of fiction, whatever pops into your head is valid to write down, and then once its done, see what it says. I too can only do automatic writing in a "secretary" or "scribe" fashion, basically writing down thoughts or words or sentences as they come to me and yes I think about them and analyze them a bit, though I have tried to not modify or interfere with them, so I can let them flail around illegibly or appear unique and individual, whichever the case may be.

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I just tried it .



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( write without thinking )

Interesting! =)

See, you'll get a lot of mumbo jumbo at first, with some halfway legible stuff. The more you do it, the more coherent it becomes, though not necessarily any more meaningful.

A lot of it will be just random thoughts that rattle around in your head, maybe from today, maybe from any day of the past month, maybe from a memory from years back. Even if you get nothing 'useful', it can't be bad to do a 'core dump' and get a lot of that useless crap outta there so you can do some REAL thinking, eh? Imagine what kind of mind you'd have if you didn't have some of that nonsense in there all the time? Some may actually be important, or specifically MEANT to be seen - to me, it would be you, yourself, or your higher self or unconscious, and not necessarily a spirit (though mine insisted it was a spirit and accepted but didn't like me classifying it as my unconscious).

Anything that strikes you as important or interesting, you should circle or copy and paste or something. Go back and look at some of the work you've done in a week, or a month, etc, see if there's anything that is going on at that time that relates to anything you wrote. Who knows.

By the way, I've heard of automatic typing, and know a lot of people do it, but have to admit I've not seen it done; I've tried it, even using the 'dictation' method I used when writing, but never got anything - guess while my normal self is PC-literate, my 'other' self isn't, heh.

jpatt,

That's interesting, I think I will try it, again. Are there any more pointers you can give us?

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well.. that didnt work to well... sort of hard not to "try" to type something.. still though emptying my mind cant hurt

Here's what I got:

Silence - the song of the gift of life. The loudest silence there is. Art thou virtues great? Whithin silence there is thought and there is feeling.

I didn't make that up, I swear! It came out of nowhere!

It could be a message which gives a hint, a direction.

I like it.. it's like a riddle. That is very cool.

"Every person allowed the right to free expression is able to practice some form of automatism, whether it be singly or in a group. Another sport that most enjoy is the dance of automatic speaking, and going on and on about things..."

Hmm. Interesting, I'm really rusty, but the above snippet is what I got just now, using the dictation method, not just hitting keys - I had to cut the above writing off though, as its been a while since I've been receptive enough to just let things flow, so I could tell I was beginning to consciously write. I like Whisper's result too, neat though I can't say I understand it. =)

Here is a summary of a "how to" manual for automatic writing that my communicant in 95 "put together" at my request.

"...I do prefer felt tipped pens; they provide a smoother medium than ball-point and pencils, but that is only my preference - I'm sure there are some who prefer chalk to be used to take down their revelations."

-Odd, this went on for about half the page, of me trying different pens, and getting various "hmm not bad" or "yuck I don't like that" responses until "we both" tired of it and just went with what I had in my hand. He also liked black ink better than blue, but went on to say:

"...don't get distracted by minor details such as this; the important thing is to pay attention to what you're doing. Okay you need to go back to the other pen. Fine, now I'll go on before you hunt for something else.

The idea of past lives and reincarnation, combined with that of the afterlife (meaning not neceaarily reincarnated immediately), has led to an interest in communications with loved ones, going so far back as Indians and further. So from this you have such notables as Doyle, Blavatsky, Pander and others who either practiced or studied automatic writing. John Dee, Alastair Crowley and Albert Hobarth were also big on the AW scene, but did not appreciate it the same way as modern automatists.

Patience Worth was a very forceful personality; so forceful that she did some harm to her student, Pearl Curran, who had no knowledge of many of the things she wrote about, as has been stated by many texts. One thing that Patience overlooked was that Pearl should NOT have known about some of the things she revealed to her. Some say Ms. Curran became more outgoing and social, which was true, but her health started to fail as well, which worried friends and family - Patience had slowly begun to "possess" her, as the term goes. This was not done maliciously, as Patience was a good woman, albeit a strong, stubborn one. She had a lifetime of experience bottled up and had to express it, and Pearl Curran was the closest outlet. Patience did not realizing what was happeneing, even when she would occasionally take Ms. Curran's body out for a stroll. The information I have makes it unclear as to whether anyone knew pearl was possessed, but both her husband and her priest were gravely concerned over her odd behavior, but not to the point of exorcism. Patience eventually realized what had happened and withdrew from Pearl, who believed herself demented after being pushed for so long, and the medical community certainly did nothing to dissuade this rumor. Pearl eventually recovered mentally and physically, with the help and support of family and friends, and went on to live out the rest of a mostly normal life.

I did not mean to turn this into a dissertation on Pearl Curran/Patience Worth, but she is one of the most well-known figures in this field, plus a favorite study of yours (**me, jpatt, and thats true), that I felt her story appropriate to instill in you and idea of the lengths that anything can be taken. True to my word, the next sections will actually cover preperation and performance of automatic writing.

1 - Keep a Journal - officially (at least to yourself) designate a folder or notebook as your "automatic writing" folder - this will help focus your attention on what you're doing and will also be a good place to keep papers that shouldn't fall out on a classroom floor.

2 - Try to keep an open mind. This does not, as some would assume, refer only to automatic writing, or even occult phenomena in general. The idea of open-mindedness is something that must be applied to all things, including race and sex, social class and apparent intelligence quotient.Only by being non-judgemental in your daily life can you hope to gain any useful information from automatic writing, plus your normal life will go much smoother.

3 - Don't try to dare or tempt fate or the spirits to prove they're real. Doing this is an extremely bad idea. I don't mean to frighten anyone new to automatic writing; I'm not saying you'll get killed for doubting the spirits (or gods), though I suppose there is always that chance, just that you should approach this activity the same you would approach any other new experiment: with curiosity, caution, and a willingness to listen and learn (something lacking in a great many of my former students).

4 - Soon, when you feel you are ready to attempt automatic writing, you may want to tell a friend you can trust not to spread your new hobby around. Doing this is a good precaution in case you run into someting you can't handle. Your friend will act as a "ground" to remind you of who you are, and to judge any odd or different behavior, in case any sort of obsession is becoming apparent. This journal will take the place of this friend if there are none available that you can tell. If you look back over your past entries and see an ominous trend, train of thought or shift of morality developing, you should probably quit until you can analyze the situation more objectively. Also, in an extreme scenario, someone will eventually search your room and find your journal because of your bizarre behavior, if it got really bad - this generally ends your problem as well.

5 - Now that you have made precautionary arrangements in the event of trouble, you should now take any other steps you feel are necessary. A short (or long) prayer or meditation period is always a good idea, as well as visualizing the "Christ light" as the New Age books call it now. This serves to attune you to the proper authorities (light and goodness) who will initially help you on your way. You should put aside any preconceived notions or ideas and rule out any ideas that could prove to be dangerous.

6 - Very well, you have a piece of paper, clipboard or notebook and writing instrument. As with everything else in life, the proper tools will depend on luck and compromise. Some spirits like pens, pencils, chalk or even paint brushes. Their students may be less than thrilled to find out they don't have the same ideas as their guides. This is to be expected, but we on this side usually don't haggle over a pen or pencil, unless there is a good reason. Also remember that some people will set out to automatic write, but to their amazement, will end up drawing. Some guides may choose to write songs or poems, or work on mathematical formulae. If this is alright with the medium, then there usually isn't a problem. If there is a problem, an automatist can mentally (or verbally) ask that his host choose a different form of expression. If this is refused, an automatist can always ask for a new guide, more in line with himself. In most cases, if you receive a positive response, or no response, your request is granted and a new guide is being chosen (which may take days). Harsh or cold refusals mean you should break off contact immediately and perform any precautionary and/or defensive steps you feel necessary (ie praying), then have a light snack (such as crackers or a glass of milk). Do not attempt to do this again until you feel you are ready, then make sure you maintain your focus on beneficial feelings.

7 - When you write, you should choose the method that is best for you. As all people are different, there will be varying levels of success depending on the method employed. You, my student, began with the distraction method, which did not work very well, though I did manage to get a few words through. This particular method was in vogue in the 1800's and early 1900's and involves talking or doing something else, until the pencil that you are holding lightly against the paper begins to move. This can also include the spontaneous and sometimes uncontrollable movement of the automatist's arm (sometimes by his unconscious, sometimes by unseen entities). This is the method with the highest risk of unwanted influences, and should not be used, even by adepts. Believe it or not, the method shown on Phil Donahue (**see how OLD this is? And he was watching Donahue with me?) is the more passive and least likely to draw resistance. Not until your friend's clarification of "I listened" did you truly understand what the guest psychic was doing.

Simply clear your mind, or let it wander. At first, write down whatever words come to mind, no matter how foolish. These are "mind fragments", exactly as the woman said (**? I don't even remember this) and must be purged in order for coherent thoughts to come through. Some may write for weeks (or months, rarely) before they achieve any result.

When you begin, try not to have a question or topic in mind, so that when you receive a message, you'll be able to differentiate it from the rest of the garbage on the pad. When you become more comfortable with the process, you may wish to ask your guide's name, and other details. Avoid mentally having a conversation. Writing down the information that comes to you slows down the data so it doesn't overwhelm you and helps "ground" you in reality. After you finish, you should have a light snack and concentrate on some action, such as stomping your foot, blowing out a candle or even tying and untying your shoes.

8 - Hand cramps frequently interfere with automatic writing. The first few times, stop and take a break or even end the session. If your physical endurance is compromised, your mental endurance has to support it and may lose track of the message or be unable to prevent unwanted intrusion. No session should ever last over two hours and in fact one hour is the suggested maximum. Some people like to set a certain time each day, or a certain day each week for a session. It is true that getting into a habit does facilitate communication, but that is solely for those who are not well-trained. Automatists that are adept in their art may perform at any time. Do not confuse adeptship with one practice, to carry over to another. A man skilled at automatic writing is no more automatically skilled at palmistry than a carpenter is at computer diagnostics. Above all, keep an open mind, be cautious and be willing to broaden your horizons.

This was an extremely long session for both of us and you need to get up early tomorrow. Rest now, have a good sleep and we will talk again later. "

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Well there you have it. Weird but at least partially helpful I guess eh? I will try to gather up all the automatic writing and ouija posts I've made and put them in one thread sometime - if you check for other recent auotmatic writing posts, there is a little more information from other things I've typed out from my 95 AW attempts.

Ok, I tried the automatic writing and this is what i got (attatched at bottom)
I think it says "yes"
I didnt think about anything while i was writing, except over and over i was thinking "move my hand" and i can assure you, i wasnt moving my own hand.....
tell me what you think?????

I'm bored enough that I'm actually going to try this as soon as my mom goes to back to bed, cus she's doing little chores and things and I can't concentrate.

Hmm that graphic does appear to possibly spell "yes", though in a strange almost vertical fashion. I have many stacks of papers with things like that, which I basically put down to doodling and really none of them are legible - I personally can't use the 'independent' method of writing, where your hand is supposed to move of its own accord. Try some other methods if that one isn't to your fancy.

Well Angelfish, like I mentioned, the distraction method, where you actually just kept your pencil on the paper and INTENTIONALLY paid attention to other things and would supposedly start relaying messages while you weren't paying attention, was the first way most people used, so who knows, maybe the vacuum running etc might even be helpful, though explaining why you're practicing automatic writing probably isn't.

I heard something today on the news about an 'automatic pen'. You sign your name once and then all you have to do is hold the pen and it will sign your autograph thousands of times exactly as the original. I think it was being looked at by the Baseball Crowd. Then again, maybe I didn't hear it right. Any one else hear anything about the 'automatic pen'?

interesting proposition Joc!

are you refering to this automatic signature machine?


or perhaps this automatic superglue pen...]


yet stranger is this automatic pen , used for tagging sheep.


ahh ! Technology at its finest. Why write blindfolded when one can just push a button?

The blind leading the blind.....