Pharoahe
Apr 11 2004, 07:09 AM
Do you really think President Eisenhower met with ETs in 1954 for a peace treaty?
Athenian
Apr 11 2004, 07:19 AM
Him......? and Them...? Nah...
Angelfish
Apr 11 2004, 06:44 PM
This I have never heard of. Could you explain it to me please?
Pharoahe
Apr 12 2004, 02:44 AM
To sum it up supposedly Eisenhower met with a few races of ET to make a treaty in order for them to give us technology and we would let them abduct a certain number of people and animals for testing. If we did not come to terms with them they would have destroyed us basically was what I have seen. There is no reliable sites but if there was to be true it would not be found anywhere on the internet...who knows
Athenian
Apr 12 2004, 06:06 AM
Yeah those aliens gave us some of their technology so they could abduct any human against their will...
No wait they felt guilty so they gave us some of their technology.
Eisenhower...
Aliens...
Treaty...
These ETs are so advanced then us they could do whatever the heck they want with our planet! They do not need to ask or make treaties! On second thought those aliens were not very smart getting ripped off by such a "treaty"...
BTW... Why are aliens always visiting or making a treaty with an American leader?!
fearfulone
Apr 12 2004, 02:34 PM
| QUOTE |
| If we did not come to terms with them they would have destroyed us |
umm...was there any reason for them to make a treaty then or did they just not want to feel guilty for destroying us?
Mystify
Apr 12 2004, 05:17 PM
If i'm not mistaken this also had something to do with MJ-12 and supposedly there was a limit as to how many and who they could abduct. Problems arose when "we" (the U.S) realized they weren't keeping up they're end of the bargain and were abducting more than they should have or something....
Ultimately this supposedly led to an underground war of some sort.
There's tonnes of info on it if you look up mj-12 somewhere you'll find it.
BabyBash82
Apr 12 2004, 05:20 PM
Or maybe they're just all talk. I'd like to get in the ring with one of them suckas!
Alright, seriously, I don't think this is true. But I would still like to see a link to this story. I've never heard of it until now.
poleshift
Apr 13 2004, 01:00 AM
| QUOTE (Pharoahe @ Apr 12 2004, 03:44 AM) |
| ...Eisenhower met with a few races of ET to make a treaty in order for them to give us technology and we would let them abduct a certain number of people and animals for testing. |
The story I heard is, Eisenhower met ETs and was asked to give up nuclear weapon. In return he could get some advanced technology. But he refused. Hope I can find the website.
Pharoahe
Apr 14 2004, 02:49 AM
poleshift you are exactly correct, he turned them down and would not put down nuclear weapons. Apparently they only wanted us to stop fighting one another because us humans are destroying Earth so quickly. This is a good reason for why UFOs show up very often at military bases where weapons are tested
ECC
Apr 14 2004, 06:10 AM
| QUOTE (Pharoahe @ Apr 14 2004, 03:49 AM) |
poleshift you are exactly correct, he turned them down and would not put down nuclear weapons. Apparently they only wanted us to stop fighting one another because us humans are destroying Earth so quickly. This is a good reason for why UFOs show up very often at military bases where weapons are tested |
I believe that story.
funlovincriminal
Apr 15 2004, 10:44 PM
Here's a decent link which gives info regarding Eisenhower's alleged meeting with aliens in 1954.
Eisenhower?s 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials: The Fiftieth Anniversary of First Contact?Hope this is of some assistance
regards
flc
STIX
Apr 15 2004, 10:54 PM
I wouldnt doubt it, I would also assume that the various alien races which are advanced enough for interstellar travel have some sort of agreement not to disturb primitive races like ourselves.
schadeaux
Apr 16 2004, 05:06 PM
| QUOTE |
| The story I heard is, Eisenhower met ETs and was asked to give up nuclear weapon. In return he could get some advanced technology. But he refused. |
| QUOTE |
| he turned them down and would not put down nuclear weapons. Apparently they only wanted us to stop fighting one another because us humans are destroying Earth so quickly. |
I doubt this. Ike was already against further atomic weapon development by 1954. He was asked repeatedly if he had any intention of building a bigger bomb, and he replied “no” in every case. He saw no justification, no reason, to develop any weapon beyond that which ended WWII. He was, however, very open to researching atomic energy for peace-time use.
By 1954, we already had the Bomb. So did most other Superpowers. Did the aliens also meet with the Russians in 1954? The Germans? If not, did they understand the political and social power shift that would result if Ike had agreed?
Mishari
Apr 18 2004, 02:36 PM
There is no such thing as Aliens and no one ever met them and will never because theu don't exist. So idoit made them up and people just kept on talking about them and that's how it got to be a major topic in conversations.
schadeaux
Apr 19 2004, 01:33 PM
| QUOTE (Mishari @ Apr 18 2004, 07:36 AM) |
| no one ever met them and will never because theu don't exist. |
I never met you, either. Does that mean you do not exist?
As for never meeting an alien, how do we know we haven't? I believe we have already established in another thread that we really don’t have a clue what an actual Alien might look like. Maybe that tree in the back yard is actually an alien. Or maybe the stray dog whose howls wake you up at night. Or maybe that odd stone in your rock garden, the one you don’t remember being there the day before. Or maybe they can or do look just like us…
Pharoahe
Apr 20 2004, 04:11 AM
Edit; removed derogatory comment
Mishari
Apr 20 2004, 04:07 PM
Edit; removed obscenity laced retort
snuffypuffer
Apr 20 2004, 04:30 PM
| QUOTE (Mishari @ Apr 20 2004, 05:07 PM) |
| Edit |
Clever.
Anyhoo, the big figures from the UFO myth are showing up again, the Nordics and the Greys, so I have my doubts as to whether this is true. Did he meet with some of the Reptiles later? Maybe go on a cattle mutilation/crop circle making spree with the Greys? This is just another story dreamed up to support the mythology that's grown up around UFO's.
Urielsfire
Apr 20 2004, 09:25 PM
| QUOTE |
Anyhoo, the big figures from the UFO myth are showing up again, the Nordics and the Greys, so I have my doubts as to whether this is true. Did he meet with some of the Reptiles later? Maybe go on a cattle mutilation/crop circle making spree with the Greys? This is just another story dreamed up to support the mythology that's grown up around UFO's.
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I have to agree. It always seems especially dubious to me whenever cases are reported of aliens showing up acting rationally or altruisticly. Why should alien behavior make any sense to us? When people report meetings with aliens that act in a way similiar to us(or in many cases, how we believe we SHOULD act) it just seems more likely to be another pathethic fantasy.
Urielsfire
Apr 20 2004, 09:27 PM
| QUOTE |
Anyhoo, the big figures from the UFO myth are showing up again, the Nordics and the Greys, so I have my doubts as to whether this is true. Did he meet with some of the Reptiles later? Maybe go on a cattle mutilation/crop circle making spree with the Greys? This is just another story dreamed up to support the mythology that's grown up around UFO's.
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I have to agree. It always seems especially dubious to me whenever cases are reported of aliens showing up acting rationally or altruisticly. Why should alien behavior make any sense to us? When people report meetings with aliens that act in a way similiar to us(or in many cases, how we believe we SHOULD act) it just seems more likely to be another pathetic fantasy.
schadeaux
Apr 20 2004, 09:50 PM
| QUOTE (Mishari @ Apr 18 2004, 07:36 AM) |
| There is no such thing as Aliens and no one ever met them and will never because theu don't exist. So idoit made them up and people just kept on talking about them and that's how it got to be a major topic in conversations. |
| QUOTE |
| (Mishari @ Apr 20 2004, 09:07 AM) that was a message from an Alien i just met and signed a treaty with! |
Well, now that Mishari has met the Aliens, does that mean they exist?
Frigga
Apr 26 2004, 04:45 AM
| QUOTE (STIX @ Apr 15 2004, 11:54 PM) |
| I wouldnt doubt it, I would also assume that the various alien races which are advanced enough for interstellar travel have some sort of agreement not to disturb primitive races like ourselves. |
In this time, how would you react to contact?
Imagine how much more catastrophic it would have been at that time.
Several governments consider it 'illegal' to communicate or make physical contact. There is good reason for this....all cultures have some deviance and disengagement within.
Magikman
Apr 26 2004, 05:30 AM
It would be greatly appreciated if members would report incidences such as the highly inappropriate and obscenity laced comment left by Mishari to either a moderator or administrator. That's what the 'report this post' button is for. Vulgarity laced outbursts won't be tolerated, those who spout them will suffer the consequences. Baiting members with derogatory comments is also frowned upon. Warnings have been issued to those responsible.
Magikman
ronw60
Apr 26 2004, 11:47 PM
Frigga
Apr 27 2004, 02:37 AM
Regarding SETI;
When one already knows what's here, why bother to respond.
thepsychoticseaotter
Apr 27 2004, 03:29 AM
Something to chew on....Prior to 1977 sightings of extraterrestrials were as varied as the people seeing them. As in, one person would see a lizard like thing another a monkey type etc etc. Differing shapes sizes and very little consistancy to the reports.
After 1977 greys were suddenly the most commonly reported alien. So now what was the big event in 1977 that made everyone see the same alien finally?
Hmmmm
maybe
it
was......
Close Encounters of the Third Kind........Interesting isn't it?
Frigga
Apr 27 2004, 04:00 AM
Edit; what exactly is the point of completely copying and pasting the entire contents of the message directly above your response into your post? Believe me, our attention spans aren't that short.
It is true that a great deal of the people who report seeing 'Aliens' are delusional or have a deep need and satisfaction in the attention they attain by making a report.
Most people who have really made contact, frequently don't talk about the experience to others and when they do it's to a very close party. The stigma of having contact is more than many people choose to get entangled with. The other half genuinely do not remember experience due to non-invasive circumstances beyond their control.
Urielsfire
Apr 27 2004, 09:52 PM
If by "real" contact you mean abductions, it's all but proven these are a result of hypnagogic hallucinations.
STIX
Apr 28 2004, 08:20 PM
| QUOTE (Frigga @ Apr 25 2004, 10:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (STIX @ Apr 15 2004, 11:54 PM) | | I wouldnt doubt it, I would also assume that the various alien races which are advanced enough for interstellar travel have some sort of agreement not to disturb primitive races like ourselves. |
In this time, how would you react to contact? Imagine how much more catastrophic it would have been at that time. Several governments consider it 'illegal' to communicate or make physical contact. There is good reason for this....all cultures have some deviance and disengagement within.
|
You mean alien governments?
nightowl1331
May 1 2004, 06:55 AM
I don't believe this treaty story. If the aliens are so advanced that they can come here from a distant planet then they don't need a treaty to do whatever they want. Why should they make a treaty? They wouldn't have to fear Earth's retaliation because if they're so advanced they'd have advanced weapons. No reason why they would make a treaty.
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