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user posted imageFrom the time he was a child, Ted Phillips has been looking up into the sky. In those early years, growing up in rural Missouri, all Phillips saw was stars. But it wasn't long before he started hearing stories about things that went "whoosh" in the night -- things other people swore they had seen -- and he wanted to know what they were.He's has been investigating UFO sightings ever since.This weekend, Phillips will be preaching to the choir when he speaks at the 2004 Ozark UFO Conference in Eureka Springs. And he admits he'll hear stories even he doesn't believe."Good stuff is hard to find," Phillips says of UFO evidence. "And the stuff that gets in the newspaper is goofy! Reporters don't want to write about plant evidence at a landing site."That, however, is one of Phillips' specialties. Over the last 35 years, he has logged some 3,059 investigations and heard stories from witnesses so credible, he says, they could "send a man to the electric chair on their testimony. Yet once they start talking about flying saucers, they're no longer credible."If I'm in any group of people and the subject (of UFOs) comes up, I will hear of a sighting," Phillips says. "It's difficult to imagine science is not doing cartwheels to investigate."Over the years, Phillips was involved in hundreds of investigations with Dr. J. Allen Hynek, an astrophysicist at Northwestern University and a consultant to the U.S. Air Force on the subject of unidentified flying objects. Scientists and astronauts "privately admit great interest," he says, and he believes the government does indeed know a lot more than the public is being told."There's no question there is a cover-up to some extent," he says. "And you've got to wonder why: A case in 1950 can't affect our security in 2004."Although Phillips will speak this weekend about the two best cases of physical UFO evidence among his 3,059 investigations, that's not his primary subject.

In fact, he's not sure that "Project Tatra" is related to UFOs at all. It is, however, a fascinating story.The short version is that Phillips gained access to the diary of a Czech soldier injured in fighting in Slovakia during World War II. Rescued by a sheep herder, the soldier and two of his comrades were hidden in a cave in the Tatra Mountains -- and there, Phillips says, "Tony" found something extraordinary. It was a "huge black wall, overgrown by cave formations, 2 miles back in a cave, 2,700 feet below the top of the mountain."The "artifact," as Phillips calls it, was 27 feet high, about 20 feet wide and curved. "It looked almost like looking in a mirror of steel," he describes, "totally smooth, no seams, no rivets."

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Kellalor
QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Apr 11 2004, 04:17 AM)


In fact, he's not sure that "Project Tatra" is related to UFOs at all. It is, however, a fascinating story.The short version is that Phillips gained access to the diary of a Czech soldier injured in fighting in Slovakia during World War II. Rescued by a sheep herder, the soldier and two of his comrades were hidden in a cave in the Tatra Mountains -- and there, Phillips says, "Tony" found something extraordinary. It was a "huge black wall, overgrown by cave formations, 2 miles back in a cave, 2,700 feet below the top of the mountain."The "artifact," as Phillips calls it, was 27 feet high, about 20 feet wide and curved. "It looked almost like looking in a mirror of steel," he describes, "totally smooth, no seams, no rivets."

Hmm, I've never heard of this before...
Mystify
He does have a point. People get ridiculed for mentioning UFO's. There are many important people in this world who feel this is something worth looking into. It's too bad the powers at be have control over it. But that won't last forever. I just hope the reprecutions aren't to devestating.

I too have never heard of the cave. But i will do more research to find out what i can.

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fearfulone
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consultant to the U.S. Air Force on the subject of unidentified flying objects.


proves the US air force believes in UFO's eh? tongue.gif

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It was a "huge black wall, overgrown by cave formations, 2 miles back in a cave, 2,700 feet below the top of the mountain."The "artifact," as Phillips calls it, was 27 feet high, about 20 feet wide and curved. "It looked almost like looking in a mirror of steel,"



As far as i know, tar can form in this type of formation correct? it can look like a huge mirror of steel, i have seen tar formations myself that look like this...i will say again, i believe in UFO's just not sure i believe there's somethin in this cave? blink.gif
Kellalor
QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 12 2004, 10:46 AM)


proves the US air force believes in UFO's eh? tongue.gif


UFOs and alien spacecraft are not necessarily the same thing. wink2.gif
fearfulone
QUOTE (Kellalor @ Apr 12 2004, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 12 2004, 10:46 AM)


proves the US air force believes in UFO's eh?  tongue.gif


UFOs and alien spacecraft are not necessarily the same thing. wink2.gif

was joking kellalor..... wink2.gif
Kellalor
QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 12 2004, 12:25 PM)
QUOTE (Kellalor @ Apr 12 2004, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 12 2004, 10:46 AM)


proves the US air force believes in UFO's eh?   tongue.gif


UFOs and alien spacecraft are not necessarily the same thing. wink2.gif

was joking kellalor..... wink2.gif

I know it. grin2.gif
vokmen
If there was any thing in the cave I bet a million dollars its gone now. And how do you get pictures and struff on the side <----




larryroyc
someone said they would like some pictures of the cave...here are a few we took while there in 2001. its still there what ever it is...ted got his head into the 4th chamber..couldnt go any farther..to dangerous..need a miner and some shoring to get all the way into it.
larry

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steve vilmer going in cave 2001

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entry from diary of artifact.

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3rd chamber looking down tunnel to 4th

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heres the site you can read more about the cave on..its current information.

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Athenian
Weird things go on in those Tatra mountains... There is this one mountain called gievont that looks like a man sleeping on his back. Polish legend states that some knights sleep in that mountain and will be awakened when the Polish nation is in trouble. huh.gif
larryroyc
QUOTE(Athenian @ Nov 29 2004, 07:21 PM)
Weird things go on in those Tatra mountains... There is this one mountain called gievont that looks like a man sleeping on his back. Polish legend states that some knights sleep in that mountain and will be awakened when the Polish nation is in trouble.  huh.gif
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i hadnt heard of that particular legend... huh.gif sounds like the start to a good polish joke.. w00t.gif w00t.gif

they must have been sleeping really hard during ww2 and when russia occupied the country for so long... whistling2.gif whistling2.gif

it is so desolet in that area..

about as backwards still as any third world nation in the world..

they have very little in the way of what most of the world calls modern conviences..

its like stepping back into the early to mid 1900's in those mountains.

larry
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