Many of you may have heard of the Arch Angel Gabriel. But i believe that very few of you if any will actually know where Gabriel originated from. In fact that is probably one of the biggest secrets existing on this Planet because two mainstream religions are based on this Angels appearance. That is of course Christianity and the religion of Islam.

Now because it is already written and is a lot of text. I hope you dont mind my linking you all to a page which is authentic and will explain just who the Arch Angel Gabriel actually is and where Gabriel originated from. I do think that you will all be surprised. There are some Biblical references and so having a Bible handy would help you to see that everything you are reading is all very true. And having a Koran handy might also be of use. However it is not needed as I can assure you that everything written therin is all the Gods honest truth.

Might i first say however despite what you have heard. there is no such thing as the Arch Angel Gabriel. It is all Christian fabrication and a Myth. You will not find any reference to any Arch angel Gabriel in the Holy Bible at all. That is a fact. The name Gabriel is only mentioned twice in the Old testament and twice in the Christians new Testament. The Old testament of course does mention first the origin of this Gabriel. But in those days Gabriel was not an Angel.

Stop it already with those damn smileys. They are there to show facial expression, not to whistle friggin showtunes.

1- That article is pure speculation with anything to support it

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Azael you say: Stop it already with those damn smileys. They are there to show facial expression, not to whistle friggin showtunes.

Starjade says: hey I have not seen a whistling smily before and so I indulged. And yes I have got every reason to be whistling don’t i.

Azael you say:
1- That article is pure speculation with anything to support it.

Starjade says: That article is not just speculation and in fact the Old Testament and the New Testament and history and the claims of Jesus and Muhammad do support those statements. So dream on. Clearly then you must be a Christian Eeeek! and a false Prophet follower and so I understand how you would want to refute such a statement it is just too bad that old Testament statements and new Testament statements back my mouth up and not yours.


Azael you Quote my immortal words:
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Now you can entertain yourself and go to a Roman Catholic Church and ask their Priest who is Gabriel who is spoken about and mentioned in the Holy Bible. His reply will probably be that Gabriel is the Arch Angel Gabriel the head of all Gods Angels for that is according to the their Roman Christian beliefs

Starjade says: Yeah go ask it is highly entertaining to see the ignorance of Roman Christian Priests. Especially when you know that Priest is not telling you the truth.

Aziel you say: Bzzt! Wrong! Gabriel sits at the left hand of God, but it is Michael who is the greatest among angels. He was the once who defeated Lucifer.

Starjade says: Mmm that is an interesting point. I note you do not say that the Angel Gabriel is sitting there and if you do then be so good as to leave a Biblical reference so we can check on your Christian statements after all its yoos lot who are trying to convince all the rest of us about something that just is not true. And who wrote these things about where Gabriel is supposedly sitting and how did they get that information. Were they present in Gods company and saw Gabriel sitting there or was this yet another tale of Christian fabrication by the disciples of Jesus who invented Gabriel.

Well according to Old Testament law of deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15: none of the Testimonies of Jesus or his disciples have ever been established as being true and so we cannot just take anybodies word on these matters. But those tales do move onto other matters don’t they. So come on Aziel tell the truth and give some Biblical references to back your mouth up as I have certainly shown Biblical references to back my mouth up. So far you are just voicing your opinion and the opinions of some other.

Aziel you say: I give this article a failing mark. It fails to impress me in any way, and it fails to support anything it claims. It is purely speculative opinion.

Starjade says: As a matter of fact that piece of writing is a work of pure religious literary genius. It is well supported in religious history along with Biblical text Chapter and verse and is remarkably irrefutable although clear I know followers of two religions who might try. And it is all far from just speculation but is in fact what we call cold reality. Anyone can read a Bible or the Koran and learn a bit of religious history to see that the Origin of the Arch Angel Gabriel is just pure speculation and sneaky brainwashing on the part of those tow specific named religions and it also mentions their reasons why. Hey check out what Mathew said for instance even he admitted he was just trying to fulfil the Prophecies of Isaiah. Its all written in Black and white in the Bible and there are references for all to see and check out for themselves.

Aziel you say: Top that off with the poor site design and poor organization of the commentaries, and this was one of the worst reads I've had in a long time.

Starjade says: Yes if you are a Christian or a Muslim it can all be a shattering experience for you. But the truth is worth that cost at least now you will no longer be deceived. The words of the Prophet are certainly written on the subway walls eh.

The site was first created by a Philosopher called Liberty girl. She is an American Philosopher who started gathering up my writings and displaying them on that web site. I though it was rather cool myself. Others web site also have displayed my writing and the Maps of that future apocalyptic event. So they clearly were more impressed than a Christian who just read of the Origin of Gabriel. Its quite a shock isn’t it. But it is not your fault what you were led to believe as a Child is it. But there comes a time when we must all grow up.

And stop telling untruthful things Aziel. That statement about the Origin of Gabriel is pure riveting reading. I do know my own skill as a writer. Of course Christians and Muslims wont be keen on its Revelations will they as you show as an example with your lets shoot the messenger attitude. But all of it is true and irrefutable and that just shows where the religions of this world stand with their false Prophets.

Of course this matter of Gabriel does put a new prospective on this matter after all this does also show the claims these false Prophets of being that specific Doomsday Prophet are certainly proven false. And that means the real Doomsday prophet is out there Mmm I wonder just who that might be. But I wasn’t wondering for long.

Jesus Christ Allah Abdul...

The article IS speculation. Speculation about Gabriel being false.
It has absolutely nothing to back it up.
Nothing. Nada. Zip.

"Gabriel is false! The prophets are false! I don't have anything to prove it, but they are! I just know it! I have too much time on my hands!"

Now listen carefully, bub, I may have been baptized Roman Catholic, but I haven't been in church since my first communion. I have no place for the church.
I have only place for the truth, and I know it when I see it.

That article? False. Lies. Deceit. Blasphemy.
Doctrine created based on opinion and speculation with nothing to prove what it says it's true.

So Gabriel came in a dream. Big whoop. If you've ever experience preternatural and supernatural phenomenon that has purpose you'd know that's an occurence that happens fairly often.
So, you're saying just because Gabriel first appeared in a dream that Gabe does not indeed exist?

You clearly do not have a grasp on the true nature of the situation. You choose to believe lies. Maybe a little visit from my buddy Azael might change your mind.

Don't like me being cryptic?

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...wtopic=11120&st

This should be of some explaination to you.

lol *shudders*

So I decided to browse through your site.
I must say, I’m impressed.

Here I thought you were some moron simply trying to deny the existance of something or other using valid and reasonable points to prove yourself, but it turns out you’re merely an insane doomsday prophet trying to lure others into following you by saying all the other prophets were false.
Just like all the thousands of other doomsday prophets.

Well, don’t that beat all! Here I thought I was dealing with a balanced and stable person, but turns out I’m talking to some crackpot yabboh who is trying to form a cult where he is the central figure and most important person of all.

You know what you are? Power hungry and greedy. You desire power and dominance over man just like all the other prophets who derived something from their victims, unlike the true heralds of God, who instead had their people derive from them.

You don’t serve a higher power – you serve yourself! Your kind are all the same; you’re out to find some poor fool who will believe you and victimize them. You’re Claude Rael! You’re Heaven’s Gate! You’re Charles Manson! You are nothing but a victimizer and a corrupter of men.


Turn away and leave, heretic, your blasphemy has no power here!

Hello again Aziel you say: Jesus Christ Allah Abdul...The article IS speculation. Speculation about Gabriel being false. It has absolutely nothing to back it up. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

Starjade says: It is a written fact that Gabriel originated in a dream that Daniel had and he admits and it does state so in the Old testament text on Daniel that he was in a deep sleep when he saw someone whom he does describe as a Man. The deep sleep that Daniel was experiencing was due to the ingestion of a Sacred Mushroom called the Amanita Muscaria, Other text does point that matter out but I was going to mention that at a later date on other text.

Now clearly you are not reading the statements properly for those Biblical texts are written at the beginning of the page and it is very easy to reference them in any Bible. And so the statement is very well backed up despite your claims. And Gabriel is of fabrication even you will have heard Christians mention the Arch Angel Gabriel we all have. But no such Arch Angel Gabriel exists it is all just Christian fabrication. If you think otherwise then entertain me by trying to show Biblical text where it makes such a claim. I am something of a religious expert and I can say you will not produce any such text as it does not exist. I have already mentioned the text regarding the mention of an angel Gabriel and even that was fabricated.


So clearly you cannot believe or even accept the truth when it is shown to you. But you will need to produce more than your opinion wont you. Ok then try and explian how this Angel Gabriel appeared to Zacharias and Mary and joseph making claims about Jesus who claimed that he was that very specific Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.

Then try and explain how this same angel Gabriel was claimed to have appeared to Muhammad the Prophet of Islam and told him that he was that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.

Now if Gabriel had really been an angel from God then why is this Gabriel Portrayed as making such a big mistake? Clearly God is not the one who makes mistakes but man surely does and it was man who invented Gabriel.

Despite your claims you are the one who is not backing your mouth up and it is clear to any reader that I can and have and always will back my mouth up all the way.

Aziel you say: "Gabriel is false! The prophets are false! I don't have anything to prove it, but they are! I just know it! I have too much time on my hands!"

Starjade says: Yes Gabriel is of Christian fabrication and I have even explained why they went to such trouble. You are in no position to dispute those facts. All you can do is rant your opinions. Back your mouth up with religious text as I have done. If you think you can prove different. But be aware that so very very very many have come before you and they discovered as you will that you are in no position to dispute my words all that you can do is rant out your opinions. Now if you think there is some error in what has been said in the origin of Gabriel and the other matters connected then produce evidence to that effect not just your opinion.

Aziel you say:
Now listen carefully, bub, I may have been baptized Roman Catholic, but I haven't been in church since my first communion. I have no place for the church.
I have only place for the truth, and I know it when I see it.

Starjade says: My name is Starjade. And you just got delivered the truth now it is time for you to make that Change after all you admit you do not visit Churches like most others including myself so why should these matters be important to you. I could tell you of a conspiracy by the Roman Catholic Church leaders who are very much aware of my existence. And I can tell you that they don’t give a damn about you for they left all their congregations to die in earthquake rubble that I once was trying to save you all from. You owe no allegiance to them for they have already left you for dead. But hey that is yet another story.

Aziel you believe: That article? False. Lies. Deceit. Blasphemy. Doctrine created based on opinion and speculation with nothing to prove what it says it's true.

Starjade says: You should have read a little more closer. According to Old testament law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 I can be proven to be a real Prophet who doeas have a provable connection to the Living God. So I am not Guilty of Blasphemy in fact I can speak with great authority on these matters.

The Muslims are the wise to this matter as are Christian Churches. This is why they dare not accuse me of Blasphemy in a Public forum. Everything I have written is based on Biblical text and the word of the real Doomsday Prophet. And trust me Aziel many have come before you who have tried to prove my word was false and they found out the hard way that they were mistaken.

Aziel you say: So Gabriel came in a dream. Big whoop. If you've ever experience preternatural and supernatural phenomenon that has purpose you'd know that's an occurence that happens fairly often. So, you're saying just because Gabriel first appeared in a dream that Gabe does not indeed exist?

Starjade says: How Old are you Aziel ? the Old Testament Daniel clearly states that The first reference naming Gabriel exists in the following Chapters. Daniel Chapter 8 Verse 15: Verse 17: Verse 18: Go find a Bible and read it before thinking your such an expert to voice your opinion. Daniel was asleep in a Dream and he saw this vision and he did not see so well with his face buried in the ground and at no time throughout his statement did Daniel ever call Gabriel an Angel, but in fact he described Gabriel as being a man and further that he was a man that he had dreamed. The second reference to Gabriel was in Daniel Chapter 9 Verse 21:

There see I kindly gave you Biblical references and I am sure that other readers will look them up so be the wise not to make a fool of yourself diputing those facts I have written the text out in the linked thread so you can all see what was said.

Aziel you say:
You clearly do not have a grasp on the true nature of the situation. You choose to believe lies. Maybe a little visit from my buddy Azael might change your mind.

Starjade says: I choose to quote Old Testament laws than listen to any beliefs. And Aziel you haven’t faired too well so far have you. Nor do others who cast abuse at me.

Aziel you say: Don't like me being cryptic? http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...wtopic=11120&st This should be of some explaination to you.

Starjade says: The building I am in is closing down so I have to leave I shall view your link possibly Monday as Saturday is a bit busy for me. But I love Critics after all they are a part of the conversation. But it is foolish of anyone to criticize the truth so only they would be the one showing themselves to be foolish;

Please view this: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t=0#entry158386

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