JACK NEON
Apr 17 2004, 03:19 PM
I once remember seeing what looked like winged horses in the sky above the cloudlines. Although likely a dream has there ever been any similar reports cause if it was a dream what influenced it when I was only 3 or younger anyone know.
GunnerCDM
Apr 17 2004, 03:25 PM
i've never heard of any reports but i know when i was 3 my older brother used to read me mythology storys, which used to influence dreams like that for me. I'm not sure about what influenced it with you it could have been movies or books something like that. If anyone else knows of some actual real reports i would also like to know sounds intresting.
JACK NEON
Apr 19 2004, 08:08 PM
Does anyone beleive Pegasus is possible through Evolution lets hear
Althalus
Apr 19 2004, 08:24 PM
I think that a creature like pegasus could exist, but only as a mishap of genetics, after all, there are cats with wings.
PsychicPenguin
Apr 19 2004, 08:45 PM
No... a creature with strong flight capability usualy cannot run very well. There is no need to develop both flying and running.
Athenian
Apr 19 2004, 08:58 PM
Yes pegasus exists, gorgons exist, satyrs exist, and centaurs exist. Exept they do not live on Earth anymore. Some do, But most of them are in my golden base on the moon which is really El Dorado. Santa Clause and the rest of the survivors from Atlantis also live there.
STIX
Apr 19 2004, 09:01 PM
I refuse to believe that a horse could fly with such measly wings. it would need huge wings to lift such a heavy body.
vyrUS
Apr 19 2004, 09:13 PM
In Islam there is a being known as the Buraq (bo-rackh) that is similar to Pegasus. It is a being of light, with the body of a horse and the head of a man. This is a heavenly creature that was sent to take our prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to visit heaven. We fully believe in this creature in Islam. It is written that one step of the Buraq is as far as the eye can see. (travels at the speed of light). To us though the being just looks like a ball of light, but if you were so fortunate to see it up close as the Prophet (pbuh) was, then you would be able to see it's definitions.
shirini
Apr 19 2004, 09:17 PM
Ok, a flying winged horse is highly unlikley. Like the winged cats, they have a genetics problem, their skin looses elasticti( i'm sorry), and the the extra skin folds appear to look like wings.
Sweetpumper
Apr 19 2004, 09:26 PM
If they did exist, it wouldn't be for long. They'd just be ground up and sold as an aphrodisiac.
dezavala
Apr 19 2004, 09:32 PM
If you take shrooms and watch a western movie the horses do seem to fly sometimes. But then you also wonder why the indians are fighting with those damn banana wielding leprechauns.
Naveed
Apr 20 2004, 09:14 AM
Curse them leprahchuns! Curse them! *shakes my fist at them*
Anyways, I do not believe a pegasus is possible through evolution. Odds are somebody saw an elephant one day, albeit while drunk, and mistook it for a winged horse do to how big those frapping ears are! It's wacky! I mean look, they are huge!
"And also, they are full of air sacks in the hollows, just like a bird. And the pubic bone turns backward, just like a bird." ~Wait ignore the qoute from Dr. Grant in Jurassic Park. It only applies to raptors, but the elephants ears are still huge! Where do you think they got the idea for Dumbo huh? Just goes to show, the government is indeed trying to cover up the existence of flying elephants with the Walt Disney corperation in order to keep terrorists from getting their hands on one, which may possibly be the most dangerous WMD in existence....phew...that was random.
PurpleStuart
Apr 20 2004, 01:04 PM
for a horse to be able to fly it would need a massive wing span and its abdomen would be outragously huge to house the muscles needed to use them (this goes for 'classic' Angels as well), also there would need to be a species of 6 legged horse it was related to, as Pegasi have 6 limbs: 4 legs and 2 wings. a Pegasi related to our horse would be a very poor runner, its forelegs being it's wings.
JACK NEON
Apr 20 2004, 02:16 PM
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| I refuse to believe that a horse could fly with such measly wings. it would need huge wings to lift such a heavy body. |
Really what if there bones evolved to be lighter and they developed a more nimble build, like a medieval warhorse or something.
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| also there would need to be a species of 6 legged horse it was related to, as Pegasi have 6 limbs: 4 legs and 2 wings. |
Okay so you have a point and I think the only way 6 legged horses could exist is if a number of genetic experiments escaped and bred in the wild or if there was a mass genetic mutation through a population of wild horses.
And oh yes anyone come up with an idea about what climate changes would cause this sort of evolutionary change.
Mishari
Apr 20 2004, 03:33 PM
hey vyrUS, we are not sure if it is in the shape of a horse, all we know is that it has wings and can travel very fast and that's all we know about this creature and we can't make up things about it because it is forbidden.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Apr 20 2004, 06:01 PM
| QUOTE (Althalus @ Apr 19 2004, 04:24 PM) |
| I think that a creature like pegasus could exist, but only as a mishap of genetics, after all, there are cats with wings. |
I never new that
man_in_mudboots
Apr 20 2004, 06:12 PM
not a chance in seven hells. oh, by the way, i read the cats with wings didnt really have wings, just mutated and useless apendages in the shoulder area, only wings in the very loosest sense of thw word. saw a picture once too, the wings just looked like furry square things about the size of your palm on the cats shoulders.
vyrUS
Apr 20 2004, 07:33 PM
| QUOTE (Mishari @ Apr 20 2004, 04:33 PM) |
| hey vyrUS, we are not sure if it is in the shape of a horse, all we know is that it has wings and can travel very fast and that's all we know about this creature and we can't make up things about it because it is forbidden. |
Hey Mishari, I remember being quoted to, the hadith where it was described. That is where I got the description from. But Allah knows best.
man_in_mudboots
Apr 20 2004, 09:59 PM
| QUOTE (vyrUS @ Apr 19 2004, 10:13 PM) |
| In Islam there is a being known as the Buraq (bo-rackh) that is similar to Pegasus. It is a being of light, with the body of a horse and the head of a man. This is a heavenly creature that was sent to take our prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to visit heaven. We fully believe in this creature in Islam. It is written that one step of the Buraq is as far as the eye can see. (travels at the speed of light). To us though the being just looks like a ball of light, but if you were so fortunate to see it up close as the Prophet (pbuh) was, then you would be able to see it's definitions. |
thats very interesting. you wouldnt happen to have a link, or more information off the top of your head, would you? i find the creatures of islamic lore very interesting.
DarkSoul Eternal
Apr 23 2004, 06:15 AM
i've never seen on before
i wish!
if i ever see one
ill let you know
Angelfish
Apr 23 2004, 07:21 AM
A winged horse.....
Kinda makes you think...
What exactly does he use his wings for?
Perhaps we'll never know....
babyforrest
Apr 23 2004, 12:20 PM
Are you sure it wasn't a bird? Or a kite?
BeetlemanEXE
Apr 23 2004, 04:49 PM
A winged horse is impossible. No mammal has six limbs. Also, the wings would have to be unusually large to lift a horse, even one that had hollow bones. If a pegasus did exist, it would also have a large breast to hold the wing muscles. It would also be very hard for the creature to fly with its large hindlegs. Perhaps if it only had two legs, and the hindlegs of a horse were in front, then it might be remotely possible.
chico del nacho
Apr 23 2004, 04:51 PM
| QUOTE (Angelfish @ Apr 23 2004, 08:21 AM) |
A winged horse..... Kinda makes you think... What exactly does he use his wings for? Perhaps we'll never know.... |
i'm gonna guess they're used for flying.
Phantom
Apr 23 2004, 05:10 PM
Topics merged.
NightMoon
Apr 23 2004, 10:47 PM
I believe they exist, animals from another dimension where the gravity is a bit lighter than ours so some animals would need wings to avoid predators or something. Or pegesus was once a real creature that doesn't exist anymore.
buggyelfmaiden
Apr 28 2004, 08:16 AM
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| Yes pegasus exists, gorgons exist, satyrs exist, and centaurs exist. Exept they do not live on Earth anymore. Some do, But most of them are in my golden base on the moon which is really El Dorado. Santa Clause and the rest of the survivors from Atlantis also live there. |
Santa doesn't live there man... He was my next door neighbor growing up. And let me tell you... Those deer of his... *Scowls* I couldn't sleep a wink because of that darn Rudolph...
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for a horse to be able to fly it would need a massive wing span and its abdomen would be outragously huge to house the muscles needed to use them (this goes for 'classic' Angels as well), also there would need to be a species of 6 legged horse it was related to, as Pegasi have 6 limbs: 4 legs and 2 wings. a Pegasi related to our horse would be a very poor runner, its forelegs being it's wings. |
Darn I was wrong... I was going to say there were six legged horses in mythology but Sleipnir had eight legs. *Had to look in her Norse books.*
And for those of you who are lost Sleipnir is Odin's horse. Odin being the All father in Norse Mythology. *Wont quote all of the text here* Hm.... Maybe Sleipnir was conjoined twins that lived to be a proper mount for a god?
here's what I could find on the mythological Pegasus
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Winged horse of Greek myth, symbol of the sacred king's or hero's journey to heaven; an image of death and apotheosis, like the mythic death-hordes of northern Europe. Pegasus had archaic, matriarchal origins. He sprang from the "wise blood" of the Moon-goddess Medusa, who embodied the principle of medha, the Indo-European root word for female wisdom. Or, alternately, he was the magic horse Arion, "the moon creature on high," born of the Goddess Demeter and ridden by Heracles in his role of sacred king in Elis. There was an earlier female Pegasus named Aganipe, "the Mare Who destroys mercifully," actually a title of Demeter herself as the destroying lunar Night-Mare.
Pegasus was named for the Pegae, water-priestess who tended the sacred spring in Pirene in Corinth. The cult seems to have been rooted in Egypt. The oldest shrine of Osiris at Abydos (ca. 2000 B.C.) centered on a sacred spring called Pega.
The Greek Pegae preserved an ancient dying-god cult, as shows by the myth of Bellerophon, who mounted Pegasus and tried to ride to heaven "as though he were an immortal." He failed and fell. Bellerophon's predicessor (mythologized as his "father") also failed and was devoured by wild man-eating mares. This was not meant to suggest that human flesh ever became incorporated into an equine diet. It meant rather "the pre-Hellenic sacred king was torn in pieces at the close of his reign by women disguised as mares."
Pegasus represented divine inspiration as well as god-like apotheosis. A man who rode him could become a great poet. Pegasus's crescent-moon-shaped hoof stamped the ground and dug the Hippocrene (Horse-Well), a spring of poetic inspiration on Mount Helicon, the home of the Muses. This was another kind of immortality: the rider of Pegasus could figuratively "fly through the air to reach the heavens." |
Found it
here.Personally I believe in them. THen again... I believe in Fey (Fairies), Elves, Dragons, Unicorns... Ohh and don't forget Griffons and Centaurs.
*Raised on mythology and fantasy*
And damn proud of it.
Buddy_Hongster
Apr 28 2004, 08:45 AM
| QUOTE |
QUOTE (Althalus @ Apr 19 2004, 04:24 PM) I think that a creature like pegasus could exist, but only as a mishap of genetics, after all, there are cats with wings.
I never new that
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Dot9M,
you never heard of cats with wings?? ohh..they are so cute..here's one for you
Buddy_Hongster
Apr 28 2004, 08:47 AM
Ok seriously..here's a cat with wings
buggyelfmaiden
Apr 28 2004, 08:53 AM
They're still cute.
Though I want a mini cat... SOmething only about a pound or two.... Something that stays Kitten it's whole life. Cabbits are cute too...
But then again, I'm a cat lover. And if I got a cat like that I'd make sure it had the best care possible.
KayEl
Apr 28 2004, 09:49 AM
I remember when my sister took these two kittens home from the North Shore Animal League. They were soooo cute with their beanie tails and big heads and high pitched meows.
Then one day I looked at them and they have gotten big and were no longer cute.
STIX
Apr 28 2004, 09:19 PM
it could be a glider, it runs fast then jumps off a cliff and glides to the bottom. mabye thats why theyre extinct
buggyelfmaiden
Apr 28 2004, 10:14 PM
gliders eh? Sorta like the flying squirrels?
Would explain some things....
man_in_mudboots
Apr 29 2004, 12:29 AM
| QUOTE (NightMoon @ Apr 23 2004, 11:47 PM) |
| I believe they exist, animals from another dimension where the gravity is a bit lighter than ours so some animals would need wings to avoid predators or something. |
the problem with that is the chances that a creature in another dimension would evolve to look just like a horse, with wings just like a bird.
JACK NEON
Apr 30 2004, 08:54 AM
There are a lot of people here saying about a pegasus' wings being to small, so can I ask do any of you have any real knowledge of aerodynamics to back up your points
Tiyger
May 1 2004, 07:13 PM
through gene splicing, it -might- be possible to create a pegasus-like creature, or a unicorn like creature, or any number of others.. a pegasus would probably either have flaps like flying squirrels, or actual wings like a bat, rather than a bird. though that would mean growing an extra set of for-limbs for the purpose. not likely to happen naturally, but could possibly be created given the chance to try it.
man_in_mudboots
May 22 2004, 10:33 PM
| QUOTE (Tiyger @ May 1 2004, 08:13 PM) |
| a pegasus would probably either have flaps like flying squirrels or...... |
i think thats totally impossible. to fly with flaps like that, the flaps must be spread horizontally, and, assuming you meant flaps between his front and back legs on both sides as flying squirrels have, it is extremly hard for a horse to hold its legs strait out, especially under the pressure of flying and for any period of time. it hasnt go the joints or the muscles for that kind of thing.
NightElfAncient
Jun 5 2004, 06:17 PM
HAJiME
Jun 7 2004, 03:06 PM
A horse specie would simply not develop wings because there is no need for them. And even if it was possible, the wings would have to be 6 times the length of its body to carry it AND would no way have feathers. They would be more like bat wings... If anything.
It's a nice mythical beast to beleive in. But simply impossible.
Anyone whos ever seen a male peacock flying very high will notice it resembles the shape of a horse. Could this have sparked the legend...?
EDIT: And another thing. Except insects. There isnt one animal on this planet that has both wings and forearms/legs. Not one.
And if they glided, it would mean they would most probably have skin between the front and back legs allowing it to do so. A horse CANNOT spread its legs outwards. Again, making this theory impossible.
cutycub
Jun 10 2004, 01:36 AM
I would like to believe it but I can't... It's just so... UNREAL! If there was a good reason then I would beilieve it. What's the difference between Pegasus and Unicorns?
joc
Jun 10 2004, 01:51 AM
Pegasus are now extinct. They did exist but were all killed many hundreds of years ago. They are not a product of evolution...they are in fact a product of inter-species breeding. Dragons not only ate horses, from time to time they also mated with them. Pegasus were the offspring of dragons and horses. They went the same way as the dragons as many believed them to be dragons.
Talon
Jun 10 2004, 02:06 AM
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| What's the difference between Pegasus and Unicorns? |
Pegasus are horses with wings
Unicorns are horses (usually either white or black depending on alignment) with a horn on their forehead.
cloudedmoon
Jun 10 2004, 05:23 AM
Horses are big heavy animals. If you ever had one step on your foot, you would know that is not getting off the ground. If you saw something white and flying it might have been wooping cranes. Man, they are big birds and they fly really high.
Now as far as the big wide Universe, anything is possible.
cloudedmoon
Q-La
Jun 10 2004, 06:45 AM
I am all for having strange creatures around

(I was a DM for pen and paper D&D ages ago). But scientifically no for Pegasus, can just say its a nice aesthestic creation. If there are Pegasus, there should also be winged-cows and winged-hippos I think.
HAJiME
Jun 10 2004, 07:13 AM
| QUOTE (joc @ Jun 10 2004, 02:51 AM) |
Pegasus are now extinct. They did exist but were all killed many hundreds of years ago. They are not a product of evolution...they are in fact a product of inter-species breeding. Dragons not only ate horses, from time to time they also mated with them. Pegasus were the offspring of dragons and horses. They went the same way as the dragons as many believed them to be dragons. |
I'm hopign you don't seriously beleive that....
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| Unicorns are horses (usually either white or black depending on alignment) with a horn on their forehead. |
FACT: Unicorns are REAL animals that are freaks of nature. Simply a goat or a horse with one single horn from his forehead.... Actually.
FICTION: The mythical beast, 'Unicorn', is a magical white or black horse with a single horn from its fore. In some cases it has the split hoofs, beard and tail of a goat.
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| Horses are big heavy animals. If you ever had one step on your foot, you would know that is not getting off the ground. |
I can think of things heavier than a horse that can 'fly'...
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| If you saw something white and flying it might have been wooping cranes. |
Good theory.... Big birds indeed. With its feet tucked under it would look like it had horse legs too.
NightElfAncient
Jun 11 2004, 05:29 PM
| QUOTE |
Pegasus are now extinct. They did exist but were all killed many hundreds of years ago. They are not a product of evolution...they are in fact a product of inter-species breeding. Dragons not only ate horses, from time to time they also mated with them. Pegasus were the offspring of dragons and horses. They went the same way as the dragons as many believed them to be dragons.
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dude, you dont seriously BELIEVE that, do you? i believe in most of this crazy unexplained stuff, but even that was too lame for me. dragons never existed, and pegasuses(pegasi?) would need wings too friggen big to actually carry them off the ground.
spyro_86
Jun 11 2004, 07:20 PM
Pegasus's never existed and never could exist naturally. The only way they could would be by splicing a horses dna. However, unicorns once did thousands of years ago. THere used to be a small species of horse that werr about 2 to 3 feet tall with a small 2 inch horn on its head and small bent horns on their knees used for climbing trees.
ambyglam
Jun 11 2004, 07:27 PM
| QUOTE (Althalus @ Apr 19 2004, 09:24 PM) |
| I think that a creature like pegasus could exist, but only as a mishap of genetics, after all, there are cats with wings. |
where r these cats with wings?
i wanna see one!
moe eubleck
Jun 11 2004, 07:34 PM
I would like to see some pigs with wings too....
swagger
Jun 12 2004, 09:51 PM
yeh i was gonna say i've seen images of cats with wings
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