Have there been any accounts of ghosts that actually killed a person?

Hi Dark Fire

There is an account in 'The Flying Cow' by Guy Lyon Playfair of a young girl who was terrorised by a poltergeist.
She was found dead after drinking a soft drink into which ant-kiler had been added. It is not known wether she deliberately took the poisen, or whether this 'entity' put it in there.

Common sense would dictate that, as she was already an unstable and emotionally damaged young girl, this was a tragic suicide.

Hammy x x x

howdy dark fire

most kinds of ghosts can't actually do anything physical towards the living. there are exceptions of course, but i've never heard of anything where a ghost or similar being actually killed anyone.

raped someone, yes. beat someone, sure. strangled someone, definitely. but killed someone? never.

*thinking*
hmmmm......makes me want to think more. I'll search around and
see if there has been such an incident. BTW Welcome to the forums.

What do we have here?

http://www.wirenot.net/X/Stories/Ghost%202...tkillscat.shtml

If you believe that the actual account that the film the 'Entity' was based upon is a true story, then there is some argument that a 'spirit' can harm someone.

I have never heard of someone being outright murdered by a spirit, but I voted 'yes' above due to the fact that the sheer self-imposed shock of a paranormal spiritual encounter might trigger a heart attack, for example...

Maybe ghosts just hate cats. I hate cats, but I would never hurt one...unless I was a ghost.

That cat story is horrible..... but alas, I don't believe a word of it....

thanks for the welcome Dark Fire.

anyway, you're cat story's pretty interesting. i can't be sure but i think i have actually heard of animals being killed. i didn't mention it before, because i wasn't totally positive if i'd heard it or not.

still, a ghost or something like it could've killed the cat simply because it was small or because it was more sensitive to the being's presence. the size thing sounds like a weak argument, yeah, but seriously, who can know for sure, eh?

on a side note; while there's lots of different types of ghost-like things the standard ghost can mainly just scare the bejeezus outta someone. to do much else requires a LOT of energy on a ghost's part.

A story I remember from my childhood about a young girl who took post humus revenge on her killer was quite chilling .
I don't remember the full story but her murderer had been put to trial and got off on a technicallity . A week or so later he was found dead in his bathroom he had drowned in his own blood . The back of his throat was ruptured and a coroners report revealed hairs from the young girls doll entangled in the wound .
Wether or not it was the ghost of the young girl or even wether the story is true is arguable , but it's the only account I can think of .

I have never heard of any story or account where a Ghost has killed someone. And I do not believe they could. I believe a ghost is a recording and so cannot interact on any level with a human.

Lottie

ghosts kill?

hmmmmmmmm

I doubt it

people kill

thats a fact

With the cat a reasonable explaination is that the cat was frightened and somehow broke it's own neck. Look on Kazaa for "suicide cat". A cat is frightened and leaps headfirst in a wall.

Human spirits can become very powerful after death, especially if they stick around on Earth.
It is the demonic spirits that are so much more powerful than the human ones.

Demonic entities, however, do not use force unless they are threatened; they prefer different methods of tormenting their victims. Human spirits, on the other hand, will attack unprovoked.

A good sense of why these two entities behave differently is that it can be said that humans have no real idea what's going on in the world, even dead. Humans are barely able to grasp the fact that time may not matter at all. Demonic entities, on the other hand, know they have all the time in the universe, so being excessively violent is pointless. It will not give the demon the satisfaction that it wants. It is only when a demonic entity is confronted and forced to work on our time that it will lash out.

As for literally killing things, I doubt the majority of human spirits could. Scare, yes. Kill, no.

there are only a few sure ways to find out the answer to this question.

1) go to a graveyard or known haunted place.
swear profusely at the area and insult it's inhabitants.
challenge the ghosts to a fight. them vs. you. tell them it at least gives them a chance.

2) rent "Ghostbusters."

now, some people may ask just how Ghostbusters will answer any questions, let alone this one. i don't really have an answer, i just always liked the movie

I was leaning toward voting no, but I'm not entirely sure.

I know there was a case of a cleaning lady at a stately home, found kneeling at the top of an infamous haunted staircase. She had died of a heart attack, and had a look of fear upon her face.

Then there is the case of my mother's police officer friend, who broke down the door of his own sister's home, to find her dead at a ouija board. I posted that story ages ago, but can't remember which topic it is, now.

You could argue that these people died of fear, but what if the entity, if that's what they saw, deliberately set out to scare them? In that case, that means it did kill them.

I agree. There are the phantom nudgers too. Often these physical phenomena occur on stairs. There was an account in a collection of haunted pubs that included a photographer being it by a wooden bowling ball. No deaths, but maybe it's possible.....

I think it's very possible, i mean poltergiests (haha know i didn't spell that right) often throw things push people down stairs and such? Well head trama kills people sometimes correct? So probally not directly but maybe by accident such as hiting them in the head or the snap their neck while falling down the stairs etc etc.

Hmm, yes. I did do an article on a poltergeist in Swinton in Greater Manchester, England on my former website in which a poor man reported being assaulted by barrells being thrown at him by something unseen.

You could argue that this was attempted murder....

I went for no, but im not entirely sure.

I didnt like those stories of the cats dying I can stand ghosts, but if they killed one of my pets, I would go psycho and get the damn spirit exorcised lol.

I got to say I dont think a ghost can physically kill,through fear yes.

Cheers Freddy xx

Hmmmm, well I dont believe that a ghost or spirit or whatever they like to be called can kill a human but from past experience I do know that they can sure scare the bejesus out of ya

Well there were some people who were sleeping at a haunted hotel they locked the doors and went to sleep in the morning the waiter came in to find them all dead with slit wrists! .

i dont know about ghosts
but demons can kill people easy
they can just posses their bodies
and make them commit suicide
or make them commit murder etc.
or just torment people so much that
they will kill themselves...

have a nice day

Yes, they sneak into houses like a and steal the bodies and kill them, never to be seen again. All of those "missing people" on the cards you get in the mail are really killed by a ghost.


No. If There ARE ghosts i think they are probably REALLY sad that they weren't able to get into heaven or hell, and are stuck here. They probably wouldn't want to force that upon someone else... I mean, I don't think they can... They probably don't have the power to...

I beleive the only way a ghost could kill a person would be if it scared the person to death. You know giving the person a heart attack. I know if I ever saw one I'd be pretty scared!

Hello!

Been away on me hols - so that's why I havnt been about - but anyways, I know I have already posted on this thread but I remembered the story of Berkley Square.....the 'ghost' there is supposed to frightened a man to death ~

http://www.grimghosts.com/rare/text/berkley.htm

No. 50, BERKLEY SQUARE
LONDON, ENGLAND
1830 - 1880
'some ghosts shouldn't really be considered ghosts at all - some are so horrible and violent that they leave a bloody trail of murder and suicide in their wake. These ghosts do not always stay around - and that is definitely for the best. A good example of this is the so called "Mad Myers" of Berkley Square, in jolly old London, England.
The haunting really began in 1830, when a young woman hurled herself to her death from an upstairs window. it is unknown as to weather or not she is the ghost which plagued the house for 50 years, or if she was just the first in a long line of victims of the mysterious and horrible vision.

Then the house fell into the hands of a recluse known as Mr. Myers, who had gone insane after his fiancée eloped with another man. He has spent a small fortune refurbishing the house to his bride's liking, and he spent the rest of his life aimlessly wandering the rooms in mourning.

The house was vacant for 2 years until a family known as Bentley moved in. this was in 1880. The daughter was about to be married to an army officer, Kenfeild. The housemaid was preparing her chambers when suddenly terrified screams rang through the house. The family found the poor servant in a near catatonic state in the bedroom, where she was paralyzed with fear and unable to speak. She died in the hospital the next day after muttering that she had seen "something horrible" in the room that had put her in such a bad state.

Capt. Kenfeild insisted on staying in the room the night, despite his fiancée's pleas. He promised that he would ring a bell if he saw anything. Everything was silent until late into the night, when a frantic sound of a bell ringing filled the house, followed by a loud gunshot. Kenfeild was lying on the floor, convulsing in terror, his eyes fixed on a corner of the room, smoking pistol in hand. A bullet hole was in the corner he stared at, and he was unable to speak. Kenfeild recovered, but he was never his old self again - and was never able to speak of what he saw in that room.

It can be theorized that the ghost is really that or Mr. Myers himself, materializing in some horrible form, intent on destroying any marriage that takes place in "his" house like the one he was never to enjoy with his long-lost love. Or it could be some elemental force which resides in the house, which spurred the young woman to take her life and Myers to insanity.

Whatever the cause, the house was turned into a bookstore after World War II and no disturbances have plagued the owners.'

(BTW - that last bit isnt strictly true.........some emplyees have heard shufflings and felt a presence in certain rooms..... )

The story about the death of the Captain must surley be an urban myth - there is no proof of this ever appening.....so again - I do not believe that 'ghosts' can kill people.....

Hammy x x x

*climbs out of toybox into thread*

Hi Hammy


Heres another version of the story:


The deadliest spectral killer of all time was the 19th century phantom of 50 Berkeley Square, London. No one know what it was, because few who saw it lived to tell the tell.
Sir Robert Warboys was one of its earliest victims. Challenged by friends to spend a night in the notorious house, he readily agreed. But the nervous landlord insisted on precautions. Sir Robert must take a gun. And if anything unusual happened, he must pull the cord which rang a bell in the room below.
At midnight, 45 minutes after Sir Robert had retired, the landlord and Sir Roberts friends heard the bell jangle violently. As they raced upstairs, they heard a shot. Sir Robert was dead when they burst into the room - but not from a bullet wound.
His eyes stared out in terror, his lips curled away from clenched teeth. He had died from fright.
Years later, two sailors from Portsmouth wandered into Berkeley Square and noticed a house hung with To Let signs.

Edward Blunden and Robert Martin were not to know that the house contained a dreadful secret. to them it offered free lodgings for the night.
They wandered through the disordered, neglected rooms and came at last to a relatively tidy top-floor bedroom. Martin soon fell asleep but Blunden was nervous. As he lay restlessly awake he heard strange footstepsscratching their way towards the door.
He woke Martin and the two men watched fearfully as the door opened and something large, dark and shapeless entered.
The thing went for Blunden, trapping him near the windows. Martin seized his chance to crash through the door and race downstairs into the street to obtain help. He blurted out his story to a policeman and they hurried back to the house.
But they were to late. The shattered body of Blunden, his neck broken and his face fixed in a terrified grimace, lay on the basement stairs.

Other victims of the ghoul of 50 Berkeley Square included a girl guest at the house who went mad with terror, a man who slept there one night and was found dead the next morning, and the maid of the family renting the house who died in hospital after being found crumpled on the floor whimpering: " Dont let it touch me"

Intrigued by these and other stories about the haunted house, a courageous 19th century peer resolved to get to the bottom of the mystery. He was ghost-hunter Lord Lyttleton.
Lyttleton resolved to spend a night in the haunted room. He took with him two guns, one filled with shot and the other with silver sixpenny pieces - charms to ward of evil spirits.
During the night he fired a barrel of the silver coins at a shape which leapt at him.
Perhaps the charms worked, for Lyttleton lived to tell the tale in his book, 'Notes and Queries', published in 1879.
In the volume he wrote that he had no doubt that the room was 'supernaturally fatal to body and mind'.

Today however the ghost seems to have given up its deathly vigil. Number 50 Berkeley Square is now a bookshop, and the square itself has become the haunt of a singing nightingale.

- From the 'Bumper book of scary stories for Teddybears'


Teddy xx

*climbs back in toybox*

Thank you Hammy, hope you had a good time. Your story reminded me of something I meant to point out in this thread, that some buildings or other locations have developed the reputation for supernatural carnage for their occupants. Hopfields was mentioned recently, and the 'suicide house' in Ealing that Andrew Green has personal experience of come to mind.

Hello Hammy , I've been wondering where you got to . I hope you enjoyed the break .
The story originally posted about 'Mad Myers' sounded terribly like fiction , with a clever use of hidden gruesomness to leave the imagination running wild . Teddies version though had an eye witness account that made it a little more credible can the account be varified .
Also as A21 pointed out , I was going to add that several apparent haunted houses have rooms were guests feel compeled to throw themselves from the window or a tower with the same effect .
Mostly though I put these things down to the fight or flight reflex as most of the ares known for that kind of manifestation are pokey small and claustrophobic .

Hi Kismit

Yes, Teddys' version was a lot less sensationalised, so was altogether a more believeable version of the events.
Thanks for doing that Teddy - it's much appreciated
I forgot to add that the girl who threw herself out of the window did so to escape being raped by her uncle.
A small child is also believed to have been starved to death in a nursery there........altogether some very very unpleasant stories about the place.

I am trying to type up a very famous case from Ireland that involves a 'spirit' assualting someone.......will try to get it done today.

Hammy x x x