Pendekar Timur
Apr 21 2004, 11:27 AM
Hi,
i dont know where to put this topic..and i start it here...
Well,i need to know more about these
moving rocks..
all i know is these rocks/stones can 'make a moves by themselves'..and that's
make me wonder...is it kind of strange desert 'animals'..??
Where it comes from...??is it somewhere in California..??then where..??
and for those who has more information bout these
moving rocks please
share with me here...thanx.
Magikman
Apr 21 2004, 12:54 PM
Here's an older thread that provides several links with additional information;
CLICK HERE
Athlon64
Apr 22 2004, 08:58 AM
Flash floods.
man_in_mudboots
Apr 22 2004, 10:42 PM
in death valley, california? i think not.
Druidus
Apr 22 2004, 10:57 PM
Shouldn't this be in ancient mysteries & alternative history?
man_in_mudboots
Apr 22 2004, 10:58 PM
normally, but here Mr. Pendekar was suggesting they were lifeforms, not just rocks.
Druidus
Apr 22 2004, 11:32 PM
Oh. Sorry I missed that.

Good theory though. If they were a life form, what do they feed on?
BeetlemanEXE
Apr 23 2004, 04:50 PM
Has anyone ever broken one open?
Pendekar Timur
Apr 23 2004, 06:39 PM
| QUOTE |
| Has anyone ever broken one open? |
-good question..Mr.BeetlemanEXE.
NightMoon
Apr 23 2004, 10:44 PM
Speaking of lifeforms, is it possible the stones have a hollow and an animal lives inside it?
ansemheart
Apr 24 2004, 02:51 AM
they could easily just be a hoax
Monkyburd
Apr 28 2004, 02:34 AM
I have heard about this phenomenon for a while, and I have found a very reasonable explanation. It does have its problems though.

During the winter season, death valley recieves small amounts of rainfall (infinately small, it is death valley) and at night it freezes into a big sheet of ice.

When wind blows over the stones they move easier on the ice, sliding along with much less friction.

When morning comes, the ice begins to melt and crack, showing why the rocks form different trails in different directions. This freezing and unfreezing process could go on for many nights in a row.
Naveed
Apr 28 2004, 03:44 AM
I think it's a colony of supersized ants that come out only at certain times of the night and push the rocks around as a sport, so they can see who is strongest.

Or perhaps there are some really strong dung beetles that have been pushing around dinosaur crap for the last 65 million years.
lightedfire
Apr 28 2004, 07:58 AM
Hi Pendal
the moving rocks are a very interesting subject.
i believe that they may be an alien life form.
There is a rock on Dartmoor in Devon called the mew stone that is
supposed to move.
[Edit: Lightedfire, please don't post in caps. I've changed the case and corrected your spelling]
man_in_mudboots
Apr 29 2004, 12:34 AM
| QUOTE (Druidus @ Apr 23 2004, 12:32 AM) |
| Oh. Sorry I missed that. Good theory though. If they were a life form, what do they feed on? |
its almost got to be mud/dirt/dust or other mocing rocks, since thats just about all their is in the area of these moving rocks.

anyway, people have broken the open and
revealed......just the plain, boring, core of a rock.
Naveed
Apr 29 2004, 12:37 AM
HA! My theory of giant ants is coming closer to reality...
man_in_mudboots
Apr 29 2004, 08:40 PM
camaras set around the area didnt catch any giant olympic ants, either. look, people have done just about everything you could think of to these rocks. after a while, there wont be a rock in death valley that hasnt been cracked, disected, frozen, tied in place, gluded down, blasted with acid, poked, prodded, shot, taken to laboratories, or sampled to find the rocks mineral (or in some cases, genetic

) makeup.
Naveed
Apr 30 2004, 03:28 AM
doc123
May 3 2004, 02:27 PM
I think you can go to this web site for more information.
http://www.death-valley.us/article332.htmlIt seems that one explanation for the moving rocks is mud, water, and wind. These can get pretty extreme in Death Valley. Still, nothing has been proved.
ScreaminEagle
May 6 2004, 04:41 AM
Notice the area of the valley how the mud is in a kind of honeycomb pattern. Might could have something to do with CSE. (cavernous structures effect)
man_in_mudboots
May 6 2004, 01:08 PM
nah. its just the dirt gets muddy, then dries out really fast, so it contracts, froming cracks like that.
Pendekar Timur
Jun 7 2004, 12:22 AM
| QUOTE (doc123 @ May 3 2004, 11:27 PM) |
I think you can go to this web site for more information.
http://www.death-valley.us/article332.html
It seems that one explanation for the moving rocks is mud, water, and wind. These can get pretty extreme in Death Valley. Still, nothing has been proved. |
...still nothin have been proved...??
..that's make me wonder and it cause those rocks to be more interesting to study....rite??
Thanks for the nice link.
Curiosity
Jun 7 2004, 12:50 AM
Here's another link about the moving rocks of racetrack playa.
CLICK HERE
Chauncy
Jun 7 2004, 03:01 AM
These rocks are pretty nifty. The ice sheet theory is ok but there is one problem, if the ice sheet and the rocks move together there would be no intersecting trails. And we can clearly see that some trails do cross each other during the same movement, so the ice theory doesn't really jive with me.
The wind and a slick muddy surface seems logical but I think we would see this phenomenom else where if it was just these two conditions that were needed to move the rocks.
I haven't found anything on seismology, a sharp vibration could move the rocks like that. The one site I found from Magikman's linked thread had maps of these rocks' paths. When I first looked at the maps I thought of vibrations. Where as a good example would be to put some pebbles on a washing machine on spin cycle the vibrations would move the pebbles all around like the paths on the maps. They do I just tried it.
Curiosity
Jun 7 2004, 03:05 AM
just got an idea...what if it's because of a magnetic field there or somthing?
Pyro Pheenix
Jun 8 2004, 03:10 AM
there was some little creature that lived in the oceans near north england, that lived in hollow rocks or something like that. maybe it is the same kind of thing. or it could be like the dunes at pemberton. the dunes can re-arrange themselves over night.
Pendekar Timur
Jun 9 2004, 03:55 AM
whisperGood theory..
...yea,lets check it out...
Pheenix...bout the creatures..can you details..??
gjsart
Jun 10 2004, 01:42 PM
A quick interesting item from About's paranormal section about AnimalsFound Sealed in Stone. Seems that in the 17 and 1800's, there were a bunch of "well-documented" cases people finding live toads and lizards which were completely encased in stone, with no discernible way that they had entered, or how they had survived in there. Some cases even report that there was an impression in the rock cavity in the shape and size of the animal. Also, there was supposedly a group of miners who in the 1850's in France, found a living pterodactyl in the same condition. It all seems highly unlikely, but fun nonetheless.
...you never know....
ambyglam
Jun 11 2004, 07:36 PM
maybe all the people who had pet rocks were not so stupid after all, they seem really interesting now!
KayEl
Jun 13 2004, 03:59 AM
The way the rocks moved is similar to the way a glass moved by itself when a layer of condensation form between its bottom and the top of the table. Gently blow on it and watch it move across the tabletop.
So the same thing happend to the rock. It rained, forming a thin layer of layer and wind blew the rocks across the surface!
There! SOLVED!!!!
Bow to my superior intellect!!!!
Chauncy
Jun 13 2004, 05:22 AM
| QUOTE |
| The way the rocks moved is similar to the way a glass moved by itself when a layer of condensation form between its bottom and the top of the table. Gently blow on it and watch it move across the tabletop. |
Yes but it would seem to me that in the instance of the glass that the condensation is all ready at the bottom of the glass before it makes contact with the surface it slides on.
Is there instances of people bringing rocks there and charting movement?
tendo
Jun 15 2004, 02:53 PM
i would have to go with the magnetism, or the techtonic vibrations...has ne one seen if these rocks have a high iron concentration? or, since that meteor hit california, couldnt these rocks maybe be part of that that got flung out, and now are shifting with the magnetism of the earth?
psi guy
Jul 18 2004, 08:49 PM
You have to keep in mind that these rocks could just be moved by a person who has devoloped advanced telekenisis. Or caused by earthquakes.
BurnSide
Jul 18 2004, 08:51 PM
Of course! Why didn't i think of that!!?
Some guy has the power to move these rocks from miles away with his mind for the sheer hell of it.
psi guy, i think you've cracked it.
psi guy
Jul 18 2004, 09:01 PM
just a theroy
PsychicPenguin
Jul 18 2004, 09:45 PM
OK.. actualy because of the proximity of the site to the Area 51, these rocks are actualy government experiments on a new generation of bombs.
druidpagen
Jul 20 2004, 05:07 AM
well like someone said before the easiest way would be to set up a time frame camera. of course maybe the person doesn't want to see what the camera would catch. would you be happy seeing a rock scutle across the desert or would it leave you even more bafled. my idea is it might be a type of beetle(ever seen dung beetles?) insects seems to be able to move over 100X there body weight. the beetles could be using the stone for protection and water(condensation) but that wouldn't explain why the beetle would want to move it around but does a bug really have a reason for anything?
man_in_mudboots
Jul 24 2004, 04:56 PM
| QUOTE (druidpagen @ Jul 20 2004, 06:07 AM) |
| well like someone said before the easiest way would be to set up a time frame camera. |
for cryin out loud, people have, over and over again, and the films just show rocks steadily sliding around. no giant dung beetles, no levitation, or magical glowing smoke, or people pushing them, just rocks..........sliding around. i think you folks are blowing this out of proportion.
Pendekar Timur
Jul 28 2004, 12:50 PM
| QUOTE (PsychicPenguin @ Jul 19 2004, 06:45 AM) |
OK.. actualy because of the proximity of the site to the Area 51, these rocks are actualy government experiments on a new generation of bombs.  |
......what..??
p/s- you are just kiddin,right...??
man in mudboots..
....it is okay,i think they are just trying to craked the mystery...
Universal Absurdity
Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM
| QUOTE |
| Is there instances of people bringing rocks there and charting movement? |
I dont know about people bringing rocks there, but there was one man who put GPS devices on the rocks. Crazy stuff
Click. Oddly, he named them all after women.
man_in_mudboots
Jul 28 2004, 06:15 PM
i think hes been standing in the sun watching those rocks a bit too long.....
Pendekar Timur
Aug 6 2004, 04:36 AM
| QUOTE (man_in_mudboots @ Jul 29 2004, 03:15 AM) |
| i think hes been standing in the sun watching those rocks a bit too long..... |
Uncle Meat
Aug 7 2004, 04:30 AM
some guy wasted a lot of his time dragging a rock through some dirt.......
VampChilde18
Aug 7 2004, 04:38 AM
| QUOTE (UniversalAbsurdity @ Jul 28 2004, 02:10 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Is there instances of people bringing rocks there and charting movement? |
I dont know about people bringing rocks there, but there was one man who put GPS devices on the rocks. Crazy stuff Click. Oddly, he named them all after women. |
I notice something on the chart, the larger the rock is the farther it moved. Maybe the moving has something to do with mass??? or volume????? maybe density????? who knows. anyone have a theory?
Pendekar Timur
Jan 29 2006, 05:59 PM
any new informations about these
mystery rocks dude...??
i really love to hear it,please...
dragonlady_mothman
Jan 29 2006, 06:19 PM
I heard somewhere the wind blew them...which is reall, really hillarious.
XSAS
Jan 29 2006, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(Monkyburd @ Apr 28 2004, 02:34 AM) [snapback]163041[/snapback]
I have heard about this phenomenon for a while, and I have found a very reasonable explanation. It does have its problems though.

During the winter season, death valley recieves small amounts of rainfall (infinately small, it is death valley) and at night it freezes into a big sheet of ice.

When wind blows over the stones they move easier on the ice, sliding along with much less friction.

When morning comes, the ice begins to melt and crack, showing why the rocks form different trails in different directions. This freezing and unfreezing process could go on for many nights in a row.
This is a similar conclusion to what I once saw on a TV program and one that is probably more logical.
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