I am posting this because this may help people find the truth that we are searching so intricately. Even though my experience is trivial when taken the entire picture, either that or placing this next to the universal constants, this is little to no help at all. I remember a lot, but I can’t remember everything, and even then some things are fuzzy, and some things I can’t even begin to try to explain.
I was fourteen, and I was staring at the ceiling in my bedroom. I can remember this because the images were burnt into the back of my mind, where I can see this every single night of my life. I glanced over at my clock underneath my window, then stared up out the window. I saw one light in the sky over the highway, but thought nothing of this at that point thinking that this was something to do with the highway itself.
I then noticed that the light that once was moving suddenly stopped moving, then begun to move upwards into the night sky. It reached a certain distance and stopped moving altogether. Then it was joined by two other lights. I live directly north of the airport, the only thing in the way of this house and the airport and military base is a highway and a road or two, when thinking of the highway and an intersecting road.
The light continued to climb, with the other two. Then being the young teenager that I was, stupid and not thinking I turned my flashlight on and put it in their direction. They disappeared, and at that same time, I saw two black helicopters flying in that same direction heading through the area that they were in.
My room light up so brightly that I could not see, then I found myself inside a room staring into another light. I can’t remember that much of the room. Then I remember not waking up, but rather becoming conscience again around seven in the morning. I was back in my bed, laying there just as I was around two in the morning.
I can’t explain this, and I don’t think that many others can. But if this can make a small amount of difference, that I hope that someone will take this into account.
Full Version: Alien Abduction...
I am curious as to whether anyone can explain this to me. If UFO's are real and aliens are coming to earth, why do they go through all the trouble of abducting human beings and then return them. Never mind the inexplicable randomness to who they abduct and where, but it confounds the mind why these aliens (supposedly far more intelligent than us) would risk increased exposure and detection by letting their captives go. Its obvious memory wipes or whatever the aliens do to suppress a victims remembrance of the event don't work. Which is another thing that confuses me. You would think that after Lord knows how many years of abducting and studying humans, they would have developed something to totally block any recollection of the event. For someone who wants to remain as inconspicuous as possible, their actions seem rather disconcerting.
This is something I have never heard anyone bring up before, and to be truthful, it mystifies me. I heard in a report sometime back that in the US alone, approx. 3 million people are reported missing each year. Even after you factor out all the given reasons, ie; lost contact, homeless, runaways, murders, etc., statistically that would still leave a lot of people disappearing without a trace. A huge source of available victims that would fit any 'research' criteria, ie; men, women, children, white, black, degree of intelligence, etc. Would I be mistaken in assuming some of these unfortunate people were abducted? My point being that it just doesn't make sense for abductees to be returned. Not when its so obvious that if you were to be taken, you would just be another number added to an already huge total of missing people. There wouldn't be any point in arguing that these aliens 'care' about the preciousness of life when you read all the accounts about what they subject their victims to and how they go about doing it. And unless there's about 10,000 different alien species all using the earth for a laboratory, it sure the hell is taking them a long time to study us and get all the necessary samples, don't you think?
Magikman
This is something I have never heard anyone bring up before, and to be truthful, it mystifies me. I heard in a report sometime back that in the US alone, approx. 3 million people are reported missing each year. Even after you factor out all the given reasons, ie; lost contact, homeless, runaways, murders, etc., statistically that would still leave a lot of people disappearing without a trace. A huge source of available victims that would fit any 'research' criteria, ie; men, women, children, white, black, degree of intelligence, etc. Would I be mistaken in assuming some of these unfortunate people were abducted? My point being that it just doesn't make sense for abductees to be returned. Not when its so obvious that if you were to be taken, you would just be another number added to an already huge total of missing people. There wouldn't be any point in arguing that these aliens 'care' about the preciousness of life when you read all the accounts about what they subject their victims to and how they go about doing it. And unless there's about 10,000 different alien species all using the earth for a laboratory, it sure the hell is taking them a long time to study us and get all the necessary samples, don't you think?
Magikman
Magikman
This sounds a little crazy, and I know you've read about it, but as to the aliens returning the abductees and erasing their memories, there is a section in one of the MJ-12 reports that talk about a formal treaty being signed in 1954 by President Eisenhower. "The Treaty stated: The aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth a secret. They would furnish us with advanced technology and would help us in our technological development. They would not make any treaty with any other earth nation. They could abduct humans on a limited and periodic basis for the purpose of medical examination and monitoring of our development with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, that the humans would have no memory of the event, and that the alien nation would furnish MJ-12 a list of all human contacts and abductees on a regularly scheduled basis." That was an actual quote from one of the reports.
However, like you stated, if they are so advanced, why are they still doing research 50 years later?
And why have they not figured out how to permanently erase that specific part of the memory
Homer
This sounds a little crazy, and I know you've read about it, but as to the aliens returning the abductees and erasing their memories, there is a section in one of the MJ-12 reports that talk about a formal treaty being signed in 1954 by President Eisenhower. "The Treaty stated: The aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth a secret. They would furnish us with advanced technology and would help us in our technological development. They would not make any treaty with any other earth nation. They could abduct humans on a limited and periodic basis for the purpose of medical examination and monitoring of our development with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, that the humans would have no memory of the event, and that the alien nation would furnish MJ-12 a list of all human contacts and abductees on a regularly scheduled basis." That was an actual quote from one of the reports.
However, like you stated, if they are so advanced, why are they still doing research 50 years later?
And why have they not figured out how to permanently erase that specific part of the memory
Homer
Homer,
The only problem with that explanation is the MJ-12 documents have been proven to be a hoax. There is no one within the UFO community that find the documents credible except for Stanton Friedman, and his interest has to be deemed self-serving as he has written several books on the subject and would suffer financially if he were to change his opinion. Read all the sordid details about the exposure of the MJ-12 documents at;
http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear
Just type MJ-12 into the search engine and it will bring up all the relevant information for you, or alternately, take your time to read all the archived issues there (start from the bottom and work your way up), it's a fascinating look into the UFO community.
MAGIKMAN
The only problem with that explanation is the MJ-12 documents have been proven to be a hoax. There is no one within the UFO community that find the documents credible except for Stanton Friedman, and his interest has to be deemed self-serving as he has written several books on the subject and would suffer financially if he were to change his opinion. Read all the sordid details about the exposure of the MJ-12 documents at;
http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear
Just type MJ-12 into the search engine and it will bring up all the relevant information for you, or alternately, take your time to read all the archived issues there (start from the bottom and work your way up), it's a fascinating look into the UFO community.
MAGIKMAN
Magikman
Although I personally thought the MJ-12 reports were a figment of someone's imagination, and no sane person could believe that stuff, I didnt know it was PROVEN to be false.
You did bring up some good points in your previous post, and I was bringing up a perticular point of view, though not my point of view.
I have read a lot about it through the search engines on that subject, and was merely playing devil's advocate. I have been to the martiansgohome site before as well, but havent come close to reading all the information provided.
As far as a real answer to your questions, I have no idea.Thanks A LOT for shooting down my side ;D
Homer
Although I personally thought the MJ-12 reports were a figment of someone's imagination, and no sane person could believe that stuff, I didnt know it was PROVEN to be false.
You did bring up some good points in your previous post, and I was bringing up a perticular point of view, though not my point of view.
I have read a lot about it through the search engines on that subject, and was merely playing devil's advocate. I have been to the martiansgohome site before as well, but havent come close to reading all the information provided.
As far as a real answer to your questions, I have no idea.Thanks A LOT for shooting down my side ;D
Homer
Hi I don,t think this has any thing to do with this page but i had a strange experiance went i was 4 years old. I tried to tell my parents but they did not belive me. I saw a strange little man in my room and i am so sure that I wasn't dreaming because i hid under my mom and dads bed and it seamed real to me even today i can still rememeber it. This little man or alien or what ever it was had a large square shaped yellow head with a large nose it looked like it was wearing one of those pairs of silly glases they sell in joke shops. it told me not to be afraid and then it vanished as fast as it arrived. It seamed to hid in the dark and only it's face was visable. there was a beam of light coming from the window. i have no idear why i t came but iknow one thing it scared me half to death. I know that i saw it and i am not crazy either. This isn't the average little gray man sighting is it?. If you know about any one whose seen this thing please let me know. The year was 19881989 I've never saw it again since.
In defense of those who have posted on this thread who have had unusual experiences (abductions) take heart. I have "contact" with intergalactic beings. The first memories (there are many and continuous) was when I was 5 years old (1947) and the sky lit up. This memory stayed with me for many years, in fact in 1995, I became almost "obsessed" with what really happened that night the first week in July 1947. I had bits and pieces of memory and wanted to connect this with other memories from the 1970s. Eventually, I found many missing pieces and most of the picture has the pieces fitting, but some are still not to be found! However, I had hypnosis in an effort to get more information about this night. I did and after several weeks of awesome, unbelievable, information assimilating, I telephoned my mother and asked her if she remembers anything about that night...and yes, she did and before I would tell her what I remembered, I asked her to explain and she explained the same information that I remembered and that was brought out in the hypnosis sesstion.
In later conversations she would say, "You had many visitations with your family from out there."
From my own experiences I don't think abudctions are taking against the will for experimentation...I believe, from my own experience, that there are lessons to be learned, experiences to encounter, and connections with "family" that take place. It's kinda like "another job"! or "going to school"
Many have remembered being in classrooms, studying, learning endeavors and exchanging information with other species.
There are a lot of skeptics, but until it happens to you, don't knock us down..give us a break..we have crossed the bridge into a far broader reality!
(I am anticipating some not so nice remarks from Magikman! ;)
-lori
In later conversations she would say, "You had many visitations with your family from out there."
From my own experiences I don't think abudctions are taking against the will for experimentation...I believe, from my own experience, that there are lessons to be learned, experiences to encounter, and connections with "family" that take place. It's kinda like "another job"! or "going to school"
Many have remembered being in classrooms, studying, learning endeavors and exchanging information with other species.
There are a lot of skeptics, but until it happens to you, don't knock us down..give us a break..we have crossed the bridge into a far broader reality!
(I am anticipating some not so nice remarks from Magikman! ;)
-lori
Lori,
Sorry to disappoint you, but I see no rationale in rehashing old issues. It is far too silly a topic to address seriously anymore, I may as well try reasoning with a brick wall, the results are pretty much the same. Besides, I'm the one who suggested you give the website at iwasabducted.com a try. Things pretty slow over there right now or have they finally turned it into a pay site?
MAGIKMAN
Sorry to disappoint you, but I see no rationale in rehashing old issues. It is far too silly a topic to address seriously anymore, I may as well try reasoning with a brick wall, the results are pretty much the same. Besides, I'm the one who suggested you give the website at iwasabducted.com a try. Things pretty slow over there right now or have they finally turned it into a pay site?
MAGIKMAN
If it is all so "silly" why are you on this site? This site shouldn't even be here then! And what about the reports, pictures, etc. etc. of NASA, military, President Carter, astronauts? Do you consider them silly? Demented? etc. etc.
What is your point in trying to disprove existence in any form? Are you really certain that the earth isn't flat and the universe a figment of someone's imagination? And you seem to read a lot, and if that is the case, do you consider everything you read to be true, or just what you deem to be true?
It is confusing that you take such an adamant stand on something that doesn't exist.
What is your point in trying to disprove existence in any form? Are you really certain that the earth isn't flat and the universe a figment of someone's imagination? And you seem to read a lot, and if that is the case, do you consider everything you read to be true, or just what you deem to be true?
It is confusing that you take such an adamant stand on something that doesn't exist.
How do you come by your preposterous assumptions? The 'silliness' was in reference to 'alien abductions', not the entire forum. Also, try to be more specific, what do you mean by my denying existence in any form? Or is your inquiry related to my perceptions of your 'reality'? It's obvious that 'awareness' is not one of your strong points, otherwise you would recognize the fault in your statement. You can't stop by this forum once a week and claim to know what my 'beliefs' are. If you seek answers to your questions, try to take some time and read all my posts. Maybe then you'll get a better idea as to the nature of my opinions.
While we're on the subject of confusion, you make this statement;
"It is confusing that you take such an adamant stand on something that doesn't exist."
What exactly are you trying to say here? What stand am I taking in support of something that doesn't exist? What, in your opinion, doesn't exist that I am supposedly so adamant about claiming does exist? Or were you wondering why I take such a strong stand against your belief in things that you know don't exist? Try to remember, knowledge and wisdom come from believing every question you ask makes sense and not believing whether anyone knows what it is you are asking makes sense. Is this clearly stated? :-/
Depending on whose viewpoint you wish to subscribe to, I frequent this website for a variety of reasons. The correct answer happens to be quite simple. An insatiable curiosity and lifelong interest in this subject is what brings me here. This is a discussion forum, and I happen to believe my opinions carry just as much weight as anyone else's. It wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone were to agree with what was posted here, now would it? Neither do I disagree with everything covered in this forum, again, a fact that would be readily discernible if only you were a little more 'aware'. You also tend towards generalizations in regard to your questions about reports, pictures, Clinton, etc. being silly and/or demented. I've already stated my opinion for you once on another of your threads, but since you want to keep it nonspecific, I will give you nonspecific answers. Yes, no, maybe, definitely, especially when he's with Monica.
[size=6]MAGIKMAN
While we're on the subject of confusion, you make this statement;
"It is confusing that you take such an adamant stand on something that doesn't exist."
What exactly are you trying to say here? What stand am I taking in support of something that doesn't exist? What, in your opinion, doesn't exist that I am supposedly so adamant about claiming does exist? Or were you wondering why I take such a strong stand against your belief in things that you know don't exist? Try to remember, knowledge and wisdom come from believing every question you ask makes sense and not believing whether anyone knows what it is you are asking makes sense. Is this clearly stated? :-/
Depending on whose viewpoint you wish to subscribe to, I frequent this website for a variety of reasons. The correct answer happens to be quite simple. An insatiable curiosity and lifelong interest in this subject is what brings me here. This is a discussion forum, and I happen to believe my opinions carry just as much weight as anyone else's. It wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone were to agree with what was posted here, now would it? Neither do I disagree with everything covered in this forum, again, a fact that would be readily discernible if only you were a little more 'aware'. You also tend towards generalizations in regard to your questions about reports, pictures, Clinton, etc. being silly and/or demented. I've already stated my opinion for you once on another of your threads, but since you want to keep it nonspecific, I will give you nonspecific answers. Yes, no, maybe, definitely, especially when he's with Monica.
[size=6]MAGIKMAN
Can anyone tell me where the site is that disproves the mj-12 theory...or story. I found it very intresting.
The only thing that really bothers me about it all is that, even if it were true (the stories) at what point would we believe? What I mean is. We have people who have stories of close encounters of all kinds. Cases upon cases of UFO's and military conspiricies, But yet that is not good enough proof for the skeptics. Does it have to happen to everyone once inorder for everyone to believe? I want to ask this one quesetion to everyone on this forum.
WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO BELIEVE?
Once we get that answer, we can start trying to find the real questions, who?what?when?where and why?
The only thing that really bothers me about it all is that, even if it were true (the stories) at what point would we believe? What I mean is. We have people who have stories of close encounters of all kinds. Cases upon cases of UFO's and military conspiricies, But yet that is not good enough proof for the skeptics. Does it have to happen to everyone once inorder for everyone to believe? I want to ask this one quesetion to everyone on this forum.
WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO BELIEVE?
Once we get that answer, we can start trying to find the real questions, who?what?when?where and why?
Well, let me see.
1.) People often can make things up to put themselves in the spotlight more than they often are.
2.) They have no idea as to what they are saying and can put a small lightning bolt out of proportion and turn it into The Martians Are Coming type of thing.
Now let me see, what was next. Oh yeah.
To have everyone understand and believe, in my humble opinion, I believe that we have to have something like what happens in some big blockbuster movie to come down here and show us. To see, is often to believe, at least for so many. Other tend to believe stuff off of blind faith. Such as God and religion, but that is another story all together.
1.) People often can make things up to put themselves in the spotlight more than they often are.
2.) They have no idea as to what they are saying and can put a small lightning bolt out of proportion and turn it into The Martians Are Coming type of thing.
Now let me see, what was next. Oh yeah.
To have everyone understand and believe, in my humble opinion, I believe that we have to have something like what happens in some big blockbuster movie to come down here and show us. To see, is often to believe, at least for so many. Other tend to believe stuff off of blind faith. Such as God and religion, but that is another story all together.
Mystify,
Here is the link you requested to the SAUCER SMEAR web site;
http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear/
The site provides its own search engine, click on the link on the main page. All you need do is enter MJ-12 into the search box and hit enter. It will bring up a list of issues that contain articles on the documents. Begin with the earliest issues to get a proper perspective of how the exposure came about. Alternatively, you may want to read all the available issues stored on the web site (late 1994 on), as it is a revealing look into the ‘inner sanctum’ of the UFO community.
As to your question pertaining to ‘alien abduction’ stories(with the emphasis naturally being placed on stories). The credibility of any ‘fact’ is indelibly linked to the accuracy and thoroughness of the research conducted on its behalf. It must then hold up under the rigorous and studied scrutiny of those ‘experts’ who wish to compare it with previously accepted data. This can involve a diverse group of people from many different scientific and social disciplines. This process happens to any discovery or claim, not just the paranormal. Despite the various and sundry claims of conspiracies and hidden agendas, alien abduction stories don’t hold up under these conditions. It may interest you to know that the majority of the self-proclaimed UFO ‘experts’ themselves are highly dubious of any abduction reports. This information is easily accessed on the Saucer Smear web site. A poll was conducted on that site amongst its biased community to determine the 10 most credible ‘abduction’ cases. That they could only come up with six cases among the thousands that have been reported should tell you something.
Having offered that information, the question isn’t really what would it take for people to believe in ‘alien abduction’ claims, but when will sufficiently credible and undeniable evidence be submitted for examination to determine reliability? Individual ‘belief’ structures are formulated by a persons level of acceptability and their perception of reality. That I require more than just a first person account of some event is one of my standards of acceptability. I’ve stated my viewpoint before and will repeat it here for you;
“Having someone say something like 'unless it happens to you, you'll never believe its true' is not a credible or defendable argument. You weren't there, and therefore have no idea as to any of the variables present and the persons perception of them. Neither do you know anything about the person the event happened to, their state of mind or how they even perceive reality. There are too many unknown factors to make a rational decision, but it is asking too much to believe something happened to somebody on their word only. That is the underlying problem with a lot of paranormal events, the lack of reliable or collaborating witnesses. Common sense dictates that you err on the side of caution, and that is the approach many people will subscribe to.”
This again is only my opinion, one which I happen to be comfortable with. Your choice is to determine what makes you comfortable, isn’t it?
MAGIKMAN
Here is the link you requested to the SAUCER SMEAR web site;
http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear/
The site provides its own search engine, click on the link on the main page. All you need do is enter MJ-12 into the search box and hit enter. It will bring up a list of issues that contain articles on the documents. Begin with the earliest issues to get a proper perspective of how the exposure came about. Alternatively, you may want to read all the available issues stored on the web site (late 1994 on), as it is a revealing look into the ‘inner sanctum’ of the UFO community.
As to your question pertaining to ‘alien abduction’ stories(with the emphasis naturally being placed on stories). The credibility of any ‘fact’ is indelibly linked to the accuracy and thoroughness of the research conducted on its behalf. It must then hold up under the rigorous and studied scrutiny of those ‘experts’ who wish to compare it with previously accepted data. This can involve a diverse group of people from many different scientific and social disciplines. This process happens to any discovery or claim, not just the paranormal. Despite the various and sundry claims of conspiracies and hidden agendas, alien abduction stories don’t hold up under these conditions. It may interest you to know that the majority of the self-proclaimed UFO ‘experts’ themselves are highly dubious of any abduction reports. This information is easily accessed on the Saucer Smear web site. A poll was conducted on that site amongst its biased community to determine the 10 most credible ‘abduction’ cases. That they could only come up with six cases among the thousands that have been reported should tell you something.
Having offered that information, the question isn’t really what would it take for people to believe in ‘alien abduction’ claims, but when will sufficiently credible and undeniable evidence be submitted for examination to determine reliability? Individual ‘belief’ structures are formulated by a persons level of acceptability and their perception of reality. That I require more than just a first person account of some event is one of my standards of acceptability. I’ve stated my viewpoint before and will repeat it here for you;
“Having someone say something like 'unless it happens to you, you'll never believe its true' is not a credible or defendable argument. You weren't there, and therefore have no idea as to any of the variables present and the persons perception of them. Neither do you know anything about the person the event happened to, their state of mind or how they even perceive reality. There are too many unknown factors to make a rational decision, but it is asking too much to believe something happened to somebody on their word only. That is the underlying problem with a lot of paranormal events, the lack of reliable or collaborating witnesses. Common sense dictates that you err on the side of caution, and that is the approach many people will subscribe to.”
This again is only my opinion, one which I happen to be comfortable with. Your choice is to determine what makes you comfortable, isn’t it?
MAGIKMAN
Always an informative reply Magikman. Thank you 
I guess my biggest concern was that how I would feel if it were to happen one day to me. Of course that would be more than sufficient proof for myself, but again lacking that first hand experience for the people I tell it to. I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the people whom have had close encounters. I never have yet but have only heard some pretty amazing stories from people whom I would never disbelieve; such as family.
I guess I'm also a little sad about the fact you pointed out, that it would almost take a close encounter to happen to everyone for everyone to believe. Seems like a long wait.
I think I'll take the safe approach and not rule out the idea of them being here, there or anywhere and patiently wait for either full conformation or just as good...my own close encounter I'd rather skip the close encounter though.
Thanks
I guess my biggest concern was that how I would feel if it were to happen one day to me. Of course that would be more than sufficient proof for myself, but again lacking that first hand experience for the people I tell it to. I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the people whom have had close encounters. I never have yet but have only heard some pretty amazing stories from people whom I would never disbelieve; such as family.
I guess I'm also a little sad about the fact you pointed out, that it would almost take a close encounter to happen to everyone for everyone to believe. Seems like a long wait.
I think I'll take the safe approach and not rule out the idea of them being here, there or anywhere and patiently wait for either full conformation or just as good...my own close encounter
I'd rather skip the close encounter though.Thanks
Mystify,
"I guess I'm also a little sad about the fact you pointed out, that it would almost take a close encounter to happen to everyone for everyone to believe. Seems like a long wait."
This wasn't the point I was trying to make. There might be a few people who wouldn't be absolutely convinced unless it happened to them, some people are stubborn that way. There are a considerable number of things that could occur that would convince me. Any evidence that can stand up under the intense scrutiny of our considerable knowledge would be enough 'proof' for me. That has yet to happen, never mind the ludicrous reasoning that the 'truth' is being hidden from us for our own good. Why can't those who claim constant direct contact with 'outworlders' furnish us with anything substantial to back up their claims. If these 'aliens' are so much more intelligent than us, what's the problem? As I stated before, it could be something as simple as showing us how to keep milk from spoiling after 2 weeks. Truthfully though, the ineptness and cruelty encountered in many 'abductions' certainly belies any thoughts as to their 'superior' intellect to me. Also, if some 'victims' enjoy a steady relationship with these beings, why can't those who ask also be allowed the same experience? I'd really love to have that explained to me. To tell you the truth, I would gladly give my left arm to meet these 'outworlders' without a second thought.
MAGIKMAN
"I guess I'm also a little sad about the fact you pointed out, that it would almost take a close encounter to happen to everyone for everyone to believe. Seems like a long wait."
This wasn't the point I was trying to make. There might be a few people who wouldn't be absolutely convinced unless it happened to them, some people are stubborn that way. There are a considerable number of things that could occur that would convince me. Any evidence that can stand up under the intense scrutiny of our considerable knowledge would be enough 'proof' for me. That has yet to happen, never mind the ludicrous reasoning that the 'truth' is being hidden from us for our own good. Why can't those who claim constant direct contact with 'outworlders' furnish us with anything substantial to back up their claims. If these 'aliens' are so much more intelligent than us, what's the problem? As I stated before, it could be something as simple as showing us how to keep milk from spoiling after 2 weeks. Truthfully though, the ineptness and cruelty encountered in many 'abductions' certainly belies any thoughts as to their 'superior' intellect to me. Also, if some 'victims' enjoy a steady relationship with these beings, why can't those who ask also be allowed the same experience? I'd really love to have that explained to me. To tell you the truth, I would gladly give my left arm to meet these 'outworlders' without a second thought.
MAGIKMAN
| QUOTE (Magikman) |
If UFO's are real and aliens are coming to earth, why do they go through all the trouble of abducting human beings and then return them. |
they go threw all that trubble becos they are trying to change the human rase to be more open to extraterestrial life. They also do this becos if they didnt return the human beings then the goverment would get very suspisius and the people would go nuts!! becos people dont just disaper in thin air they have to go somwhere!
My experience. I'm from Dallas...when I was around 17 in high school...I had my best friend over for a sleep over and it was early on a beautiful Saturday morning. I woke up and saw an alien standing near my bed observing me. I was startled, but not scared. I was able to capture it's image and it was the kind that looked like the gray. Small, with black deep eyes, and oval shaped head. I wondered why he came to me, but was floored that an alien was standing this close to me in my dimension/reality. I was not into the subject as much as I am not. No words were exchanged, just an observation, but I didn't fear him. I couldn't speak or think. It was shocking yet fascinating.
Now I'm very interested in space, beyond, stars, galaxies, ET's, and where they come from. I'm very interested in the Pleiadians (sp?) and the Grays. I'm also interested in the Arcturians and feel certain there are a frequent number of them flying in our skies all the time. I am nervous still of the bad ones and hope they will turn good. I only want to have contact with the good ones. I have no doubt they are keenly intelligent. I don't think they are going to come wipe us out any time in the future. I don't see that would be beneficial to anyone. I would like to learn more about them. I have been seeing flying objects in the sky of late and observe nightly when it is not cloudy in hopes to see more and understand more.
Now I'm very interested in space, beyond, stars, galaxies, ET's, and where they come from. I'm very interested in the Pleiadians (sp?) and the Grays. I'm also interested in the Arcturians and feel certain there are a frequent number of them flying in our skies all the time. I am nervous still of the bad ones and hope they will turn good. I only want to have contact with the good ones. I have no doubt they are keenly intelligent. I don't think they are going to come wipe us out any time in the future. I don't see that would be beneficial to anyone. I would like to learn more about them. I have been seeing flying objects in the sky of late and observe nightly when it is not cloudy in hopes to see more and understand more.
ive seen a UFO but i don't recall any kind of abduction. i don't believe in abductions, although i do believe in UFOs.
how does one see 2 black helicopters at night? im just curious
how does one see 2 black helicopters at night? im just curious
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If UFO's are real and aliens are coming to earth, why do they go through all the trouble of abducting human beings and then return them.
They return them because those who do the most abducting are the ones researching ways of helping us. I could be wrong, but from what i have heard; they're helping with things from behind the scenes as much as possible. Whispers to scientists via telepathic links primarily. If such is true then the aids and sars virus are both manmade not something that just "popped" up. And if this were true then they're trying to help with the aids thing because it's hurting innocent people when it wasn't intended to. We're slowly learning the dangers of biochemical "warfare" when we're creating such things and then somehow they're able to get loose and hurt our own people. The aliens erase our minds to the exact point they choose to. They don't want to give wrong impressions or for us to know too much about them. Think about it this way, if every human being KNEW aliens existed, how many of them would want the aliens exterminated for fear that they are evil or just out to destroy earth? Some humans are trusted with more knowledge than others and know how much to share and how much not to. Those who can't be trusted aren't. As far as the seemingly random acts of abduction are, i don't think that they are always random. I know i wanted alien contact for most of my life, so i think that sometimes it's asked for. Not always mind, but i don't think it's always random either.
If UFO's are real and aliens are coming to earth, why do they go through all the trouble of abducting human beings and then return them.
They return them because those who do the most abducting are the ones researching ways of helping us. I could be wrong, but from what i have heard; they're helping with things from behind the scenes as much as possible. Whispers to scientists via telepathic links primarily. If such is true then the aids and sars virus are both manmade not something that just "popped" up. And if this were true then they're trying to help with the aids thing because it's hurting innocent people when it wasn't intended to. We're slowly learning the dangers of biochemical "warfare" when we're creating such things and then somehow they're able to get loose and hurt our own people. The aliens erase our minds to the exact point they choose to. They don't want to give wrong impressions or for us to know too much about them. Think about it this way, if every human being KNEW aliens existed, how many of them would want the aliens exterminated for fear that they are evil or just out to destroy earth? Some humans are trusted with more knowledge than others and know how much to share and how much not to. Those who can't be trusted aren't. As far as the seemingly random acts of abduction are, i don't think that they are always random. I know i wanted alien contact for most of my life, so i think that sometimes it's asked for. Not always mind, but i don't think it's always random either.
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