Do people cheer for Edge??? he is canadian....

do people cheer for The Ultimo Dragon??? he is Japanese...

Do people cheer for Rey Mysterio??? he is Mexican...

you see, being a face has nothing to do with Race or anything...They support the troups because the troops support them...they do their best to give back to those who keep countries free and lives safe...

thats it for me...untill tomorrow..
Fight the good fight...Fight for Foley!!! Foleyism Forever!!!

Hey Seraphina I might have missed this but are you enrolled in a wrestling school, if so how much does it cost over there?

£10 every sunday. There are three weekdays sessions, each of which cost a lot less...though the overall price is about the same.

I'm actually going to be there in about 6 hours.

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oh because I'm in Edmonton, Alberta and here we have Monster Pro Wrestling and they have a training school, It's a 100$ a month, Which seemed kinda pricey for my blood

I would assume, however, that you get what you pay for...

Overall, I'm paying about £40 a month (that's...say...$72 US...I've got no idea what it would be Canadian). When I start the advanced classes, however, I'll be on the equivilant of $144 US dollars per month...so you've got it pretty cheap

We are allowed to pay in small doses though, and we only pay at the classes we attend...you can also watch for free if you want, but that's obviously not anything like as good as actually getting the instruction.

iiiiiiiii c thanks for the info

I can understand what you're saying. Techincal wrestlers have skills and brawlers don't. I don't know why though, I have a huge attraction to the Undertaker though. It's weird. Hearing his music, even when he was the American Badass, I enjoyed him, good guy, bad guy, doesn't matter. I've always enjoyed watching the Undertaker fight, his differing styles, attitudes, everything. I don't know what it is. I always get a fluttering in my stomach knowing he's wrestling. No, it's not a gay thing or anything. I do agree about technical wrestlers though. They have the real skill.

well I think the fans still have an attraction to the Undertaker still, he's a legend, I think if you asked people before a smackdown show started who they would want to see Eddie or Undertaker I'd put my bet on the Undertaker. People still wanna see the old school guys, but i think theres gotta be a balance between the old and new

P.S. This goes with talking about old school, I think Ric Flair should have a shirt and pants on at all times,nobody needs to see him in short shorts *shudders*

Sorry if no one wanted a new thread, but the other one was getting fairly long. I think it would be a good idea for us to start part two with everyone who is involved picking a wrestler from the list below as their favorite of the current superstars and telling us why he/she is your favorite. Also, If you wish, tell us what your favorite brand, Raw or Smackdown is and why. Sorry if I don't add your favorite to the list. There are so many wrestlers.

Stone Cold
The Rock
Triple H
Shawn Michaels
Goldberg
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
The Undertaker
Chris Jericho
Batista
Randy Orton
Ric Flair
Big Show
Brock Lesnar
Hurricane
Rey Mysterio
Rico
Billy Gunn
Matt Hardy
Edge
Kane
Christian
Scott Steiner
Lita
Trish
Jazz
Molly
Victoria
Nidia
Gail

That's all I can think of right this moment and I'm sure I missed a lot of them. Sorry

The complete list of men and women with WWE contracts are as follows...


A-Train
Al Snow
Batista
Chris Benoit
Chris Jericho
Chris Nowinski
Christian
Chuck Palumbo
Edge
Eric Bischoff
Eugine (Nick Dinsmore)
Gail Kim
Garrison Cade
Goldberg (is still on the website apparantly...that's odd. His contract is probably still active)
Grandmaster Sexay
Ivory
Jacqualene
Jazz
Johnny Nitro
Jon Heindenrich
Jonathan Coachman
Kane
Lance Storm
Lita
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Maven
Mick Foley
Molly Holly
Nidia
Randy Orton
Rhyno
Ric Flair
Rob Conway
Rosey
Scott Steiner
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Stacy Keibler
Steven Richards
Sylvain Grenier
Tajiri
Test
The Hurricane
The Rock
Tommy Dreamer - (he still has a job!?)
Trith Stratus
Triple H
Tyson Tomoko
Val Venis
Victoria
William Regal

Akio
Big Show
Bill DeMott
Billy Gunn
Billy Kidman
Booker T
Bradshaw
Bubba Ray Dudley
Charlie Haas
Chavo Guerrero
D-von Dudley
Danny Basham
Dawn Marrie
Dough Basham
Eddie Guererro
Funaki
Hardcore Holly
Jamie Noble
John Cena
Johni Stamboli
Kurt Angle
Mark Jindrak
Miss Jackie
Nunzio
Orlando Jordon
Paul London
Rene Dupree
Rey Mysterio
Rico
Rikishi
Rob Van Damn
Sable
Sakoda
Scotty 2 Hotty
Shannon Moore
Spike Dudley
Theodore Long
Torrie Wilson
Undertaker


It speaks a lot for your status as a casual fan that you missed out some of the most talented guys in the company Since this post is so horribly long, I'll make a new one about my pick/s...

My favorite superstar is none other than The Man, The Myth, Mick Foley


why you may ask...well, for starters, HE IS GOD!!!

thats really all you need to know...

The Krow wonders why saucy started a new thread...this is the third thread about wrestling...oh well...

Since I totally Reek of Awsomeness, I will provide Sera with a cool picture that was made a while back

I don't have a clear favourite (not in terms of quality anyway), so I'll just give a mention to everyone I have something to say about, or care enough to say something, good or bad.


Chris Benoit - quite possibly the best pure wrestler in the world today, Benoit's had his current title reign coming a long, long time. I'm hoping for what's going to be a very lengthy reign indeed...however, he does need to work on his mic skills. As a face champion, I don't think he could afford to split the spotlight with a manager...for a heel, it's obviously different (heels don't need to be the hero, battling alone against impossible odds), so he's going to have to work on that part himself....in the ring, however, he's virtually perfect.

Chris Jericho - The best all round talent on RAW, Chris Jericho needs to get pushed back to the main event. Great wrestler, great mic worker, great look...it's amazing to think that a guy who is, quite frankly, the total package, is being booked in the midcard. It's sad...it really is....I'm just glad they're giving him good air time now.

Edge - I would have given him a lot more dark matches before bringing him back. From his return match, he's rusty as hell. Putting him in a team with Benoit isn't bad though, since it'll allow Benoit to cover his mistakes. However, I'm worried it might draw the spotlight away from Benoit.

Eugine (Nick Dinsmore) - I was afraid I'd hate this gimmick...but it's actually very funny. He plays it in a way that, to me, seems less like it's making fun of the character's condition, and one that leaves you more going "aww..." Didn't get to see his first match, so I don't know how they're letting him perform. If he's allowed to do his thing, he should be awesome.

Goldberg - Na na....na na na na....Hey hey hey....Goodbye...

Lance Storm - Someone remind me, why is Lance Storm working Heat? Why oh why did they drop his singles push, which was going pretty well? Why on earth is one of the best technicians in the company not on tv? DEAR GOD WHY!?

Mark Henry - Na na...na na...you get the picture.

Matt Hardy - There aren't words in the english language (or french or spannish languages) to describe how happy I am to see them using Matt Hardy again. I just hope to god they don't have him carry Kain, only to get squashed...I'm also worried he might go back to being his old generic self, without a chance to have a character, now that he's not a heel. With his Mattitude angle, he was awesome...I'm worried they're gonna drop that.

Ric Flair - just to continue from the other thread, yes, Ric shouldn't be wrestling anymore. He's only going through the motions now, no matter how hard he works, and should be strictly a manager (he's still awesome on the mic). He's still got a place in the company though...perhaps as a trainer or road agent in later years? The sheer depth of knowledge Ric Flair could give to other wrestlers is beyond belief.

Shawn Michaels - needs to stop hogging the spotlight, and realise his era came and went. This is the era of Benoit, and he needs to realise that.

Shelton Benjamin - give him the IC title, and I'll be a happy little Sera-chan.

Big Show - works hard in the ring, but will NEVER be a good worker...we all know that. However, I'm pleased to see they're finally using him as the monster he was built to be. He's more a storyline character than an in ring character, but I'm interested to see where things are going with him.

Bradshaw - Get...him...off....my...telivion...now. Worst....wrestler...in...company...right...now.

Eddie Guererro - the current god of Smackdown, and the best worker in the world at the moment.

John Cena - I'm still liking Cena...however, there seems to be a distinct possibility he's more over than anyone else in the company right now, short of Mick Foley In fact, I'd give him even odds of getting louder pops than Eddie right now...which isn't something I want to see. As much as I like Cena, I want Eddie to get his dues as champion first, as he's had it coming just as much as Benoit.

Kurt Angle - I hate him as GM, because they don't let him add lib....He's medically cleared to wrestle by all accounts, so I would rather see him back in the ring. I find the wheelchair angle it pretty bad taste too...especially the comment about his wife on the last episode of Smackdown...there's a boundary where shock value should stop

Paul London - another guy who I stand amazed to see is not given more tv time...


Nobody else really gives me anything to think about right now...

And Krow, thank you for the pic It shall join the others in the temple of Jericho

I'm really likeing the whole Edge/Benoit Tag Team thing...but, what'd be awsome...If Foley gets more matches of the quality of match that he had with guys like HHH and Undertaker(Hell in a Cell)

oh, and sera, if you want the site, its here: http://www.kennyskrib.com/SPW/index_2.htm

oh, and here is my site again: http://s6.invisionfree.com/Krows_Hangout/index.php

That forum is the official forum for Foleyism!!!

Enjoy!!!

ok what about peoples top 5 best finishing moves
mine would be:
1.F5
2.Crossface
3.Pedigree
4.Ultimo DDT
5.RKO

Here a few of the most boring characters according to me:

1.Lita

She was getting a huge push before her injury laid her off for a really long time.When she came back, she seemed to have aged considerably and looked really bad in the ring. Personally i find her one of the most boring characters on tv.

2. Mark Henry

Well atleast he gets a unanimouse vote from everyone.

3.Dudely Boys

The matches are so cliche...

4.Bradshaw
With him headlining smackdown, this show is doomed!

5. Shawn Michaels as a Face

Hell..i wont lie, he is one of my favorites, mainly because of the nostalgia factor, but its getting to be a drag to see him every week the way he is at the moment. He's best as a heel and should stick to that.


BTW, according to various reports Lance storm might leave WWE very soon. He's not satisfied with the way his character is being handled and has voiced his discontet about it

I like the way the Undertaker is heading. Even though he's my favorite, I was getting bored with the whole motorcycle thing. He'll probably be the next champion on smackdown. I really don't see Bradshaw winning the title. One thing I'm getting tired of is all the tag matches. That seems to be what every match is these days. Also, Seraphina, what happened to Stone Cold? He just disappeared and you didn't add him to your list. Also, did Goldberg quit or something?

do you know why Goldberg left?

He had his reasons...he didn't like the fact that the WWE made him lose matches, made him sell (because, god knows, why should a wrestler be asked to sell his opponents moves?) and various other things.

Goldberg wanted to be booked like he was in WCW...where he's crush people far, far more talented than he was into the ground, in two minute squash matches, and would never be seen to get hurt and/or break sweat in the process. However, Vince wanted to book him as the WWE face, who would need to overcome odds in order to win.

Thanks to WCW, Goldberg actually believed his own press...he genuinenly believed that he was the greatest wrestler in the word (I wouldn't even consider him in the top one thousand), and that he had the right to squash the entire WWE locker room. Whenever he was required to sell for anyone, or have a match longer than five minutes, he compained that "it made him look weak".

Goldberg was a good example of what happens when an ego gets so inflated, the guy can't even fit his own massive swollen head into the ring, let alone wrestle a good match when he's carrying it around. I, along with the vast majority, am very pleased to see him gone.

thanks for the update. If Goldberg is going to act like that, i'm glad he's gone too!

Goldberg's always been famous for backstage politics...the only other guys that come even close to him in badreputation are Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash....it's funny to notice that almost all the guys who think they're god's gift to the ring, also happen to be absolutely terrible wrestlers

Speaking of kevin nash, what happened to him? Also, did Scott Steiner quit or is he injured?

Kevin Nash - injured, might never wrestle again. We at Seraphina Inc. are very pleased that our evil plan has come to fruition.

Scott Steiner - let me answer you question, by asking one of my own: Does anybody care about Scott Steiner?

I like his music and entrance........

Scott Steiners music blew...his entrance just demonstrates how much he is only concerned with power and stregnth...Although he did have a nice suplex...

I don't know what scares me most about Steiner...the fact that he looks like a poster boy for a compaign against the use of bycicle pumps on the human body, or that he's in such terrible shape he can't even do the move named after him anymore

Coach has the best theme music

ya those too, but I kinda like Eddies and Paul Londons also

yes, well... Anyway, to switch topics now...I saw Eugene practice chain wrestling with Silly Willy Regal...quite impressive, as I have never seen Eugene wrestle before...He made Regal tap...with the Regal Stretch!!!

Tnyway, Rob Conway vs. Eugene next week on Raw...lets end the discussion of RAW now until Sera sees it...its only fair...

No point in starting a new thread when the first one gets "too long". Topics merged.

My favourite wrestler is the one who wears a leotard and feels up men. Oh wait, thats all of them.

...I guess no one caught my witty remark???

Yes we did my friend However, as I'm sure you've learned, I take wrestling far too seriously to put aside an insult to the sport for the sake of a chuckle.

On the subject though, I'm starting to like Rico...I still detest the gimmick to no end, but he just plays it so well, it's hard not to find him entertaining

who doesn't love Rico...and now he is half of the Tag Team Champions...

oh well

here is a quote from my buddy 30secondstomarslady over at the Seether forums

Chris Jericho is a living god. Any and all things that have something to do with him qualify as "coolness".

The only exception is, of course, when he was buried by Triple H...

hmmmm...you got me there...

oh...I got my sweet mankind mask today!!!

It is AWSOME!!!!!!!

Hi there; I don't know if just anyone is welcome on your thread but I love wrestling and I'd like to toss my 2 cents in. I've heard a lot of talk about how bad it would be if Bradshaw won the title but I don't think it would be so terrible. He's been a good , solid worker for years and hes' never gotten any kind of push. He's probably just about to leave the company anyway what with all the new career options he has, why not let him go out with a bang. I don't think he'd be a very good choice for a long-term champion but where's the harm in letting have a couple weeks of glory before his times' up? It wouldn't take away from Eddies' standing if he lost the title for a week or two and then regained it.

Well when you put it like that I can't possibly find a good enough argument to continue debating the point. Nice Job.

So to change the subject; who's everyones' favorite all-time heel. I've gotta go with another unpopular choice and say The Big Boss-man. I mean c'mon; cooking Al Snows' Dog? Making the Big Show chase after his Fathers' Coffin ? Those are the kind of things Heels just don't do anymore. I've hardly ever seen a Heel that could generate as much hatred as Ol' Boss....