I have absolutely nothing to say about wrestling....but I would like to say well done to everyone on managing to take this thread to this, it's....



1000th post!




It just goes to show....even through the current product is stale and uninspiring, even though wrestling is just beginning to crawl out of its worst sump in decades, and even though we'd had to endure over a year of political dominance by a big nosed steriod pusher, there are still many dedicated fans to this industry

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.....god knows why....

*moves to Japan, where the wrestling is good*

I haven't seen Smackdown in a couple of weeks cuz of Bradshaw and that Mordeki guy....I really hopes it gets better, man i remember the days when i would get mad if i missed one episode. I find myself liking Raw more and more cuz of Eugene though i don't get to watch it cuz don't have cable, have to wath the Bottomline. And Thank you Sera for your info, it's so refreshing to have someone stick up for the business and share so much info before you i never knew the awful truths of Goldberg and Jeff hardy

I was reading through here and saw that it was discussed about crappy finishers?

Anyone mention the lionsault?

Ah, but the lionsault isn't Chris Jericho's finisher He hasn't gotten a clean win with it for years....it's just one of the flashy moves he does every now and then, to show how athletic he is....Chris is anything but a spot monkey, but I'd say the lionsault is more of a spot than an actual move...I haven't seen him use it for ages anyway

Then again, that could just be because I watch WWE less and less lately.

Thats right.... the last time i sw him get a win he had the running enzi.....ensu....enzui..... that damn kick....

Thats so much better.

lol, it's a really old school finish....he really did need a new one though. The Walls of Jericho...it's a bit like the crossface for Benoit. If someone keeps getting the win over and over and over with the same move, it usually ends up being really good for the move...but not as good for the wrestler

Maybe he should go to smackdown with the other cruiserweights....

In fairness, if he went to Smackdown, I could see him getting pushed to the main event...given how hurting they are for main event level workers right now (they've got Kurt, and Eddie....that's about it).

If he went to smackdown hed become a jobbing machine....

Jericho needs to go into clothing rehab.... and when he's over his little problems he might get somewhere

Jericho is the best dressed person in the WWE by far... The hair...the pink matching jacket and pants...I envy Jericho

anyhoo...I havent posted in awhile...

but...uhh...

Yay for the thread...1000 posts...impressive...

and...

The Lionsault was a good move...it was like the in ring version of the Asai Moonsault...I liked the lionsault alot...

Does anyone remember that match between Jericho and Christian, and Booker T and Goldust? In the early going, Jericho went for a lionsault, but the ropes exploded....he ended up improvising the finish into a standard, top rope moonsault.

Jericho's multi-talented

Something like this happened at an SWA show not long ago....they do have the crappiest ring on the face of the earth though. During the main event of one show, one half of the ring buckled, and the entire match had to stay in just one half of the ring (bearing in mind this is just a 14 by 14 ring, that's a pretty small space to have a match).

At the last SWA show, another disaster very nearly happened when one really fat guy tried to go to the top rope The turnbuckle sagged, and very nearly broke, and needed tightened back up before the next match could start

Just goes to show what happens when you buy a ring off eBay

Back in the LICW...we used some pretty crappy rings...I remember I went into the turnbuckle chest first and the turnbuckle just sort of fell off...I thought that they (and my opponent) would be mad...but my opponent and I made the best of a bad situation and did our best...it was a 4 star match...

I am actually pretty sure that we did buy that ring on ebay...

I've always like Jericho's sarcasm... and the fact he's a Canadian wrestler (like Benoit, Edge, Christian, The Harts- Bret and Owen, and Trish Stratus) helps.

I remember growing up watching George "The Animal" Steele (my Mom's fave wrestler), Sgt Slaughter, Junk Yard Dog, Rowdy Roddy Piper. They were great performers.

The ones I've enjoyed watching lately have been Benoit, Jericho, Lita, Trish Stratus, Eugene, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley, The Rock, Austin, and Tajiri.

Well well...a new fan added to the mix

Welcome to the thread You've missed quite a bit of the action I must say, but no harm in giving you some catch up time....so tell me, what are your thoughts on Chris Benoit dropping the title to Randy Orton?

Randy Orton's a twit. Y2J (even though an arse) is a much better performer and is more entertaining as a heel.

Regardless, Jericho will eventually get the belt back (and become possibly all the more enjoyably obnoxious because of it). As for Randy Orton being the "Legend Killer"... he should take Ric Flair's advice: "To BE the Man, you must BEAT the Man!".

It was nice seeing Edge take Orton down though a while back.

lol....I'm afraid I don't see Jericho getting the title back anytime soon Although he is, without a doubt, the best all round performer on RAW, current plans are to have Orton lift the title form Benoit, and then drop it to Triple H at Wrestlemania.

Of course, the chance of ANYONE getting it off Triple H for the next year or so are nil, as he'll just go and bonk his wife, who happens to be head writer, until she decides to let him keep it

Personally, I see Orton turning on both Flair and Triple H- and not because he's going to become a babyface- but rather to add to his rep as "The Legend Killer". Jericho won't get the title for a bit, I agree... but he'll be sure to make a pain of himself in the meantime.

Benoit's got to lose the title soon (hopefully not to Orton {the twit doesn't deserve it as a worker in my opinion}), otherwise things will get stale. When he does lose it, it's got to be written and done right so it'll be remembered.

If Orton does get it, I don't see him dropping it to Triple H... because of one word: ego!

lol...with all due respect, I think you paint a very black picture of Orton...

Orton's backstage repuation at this point is a guy who is very respectful to the locker room veterans, who understands that he's been given a big break by the booking, and has fit in very well. He works hard in the ring, and has put on some matches that are, quite frankly, very impressive for his age (he even managed to carry Edge to a good match...bearing in mind Edge has been stinking up the ring since his return).

If Orton was told to drop the title to Triple H, then that's exactly what he'd do....Triple H is the ego in question I'd be worried about

As for Benoit....I'm tempted to agree that his title reign should come to and end some time in the next couple of months. However, I'm begging the WWE to give him ONE half decent fued before they do. As I'd said before, since becoming champion he's played second fiddle to Triple H and Michaels, both of whom he can outwrestle any day of the week, and then gone on to fued with Kane, who's absolutely hopeless, in what was essentially a midcard fued.

In short, Benoit's title reign has been a backstory, instead of the epic tale it could have, and should have been. I don't want to see him going out by being another knotch on the belt of Randy Orton...while I'm sure they'd have a great match....I'd rather see things done right, give him a long running fued with a heel Shawn Michaels like they were supposed to, and eventually drop the title to him after a couple of months of 5 star matches.

only good wrestler, will always be HBK, Shawn Michaels, no one else even comes close, saying that i haven't watched wrestling in ages...

Sera- when I mentioned the ego in regards to dropping the title to Triple H, I didn't mean he wouldn't as a person- but rather the ego of his persona (as it's written) may not want to... and that's how I would write it (besides, even if he's part of Evolution- why should he drop the title to Triple H? Would you in his character's place?)

I agree that Benoit needed some better storylines and feud's. One reason I don't watch WWE all the time is because you get one character that becomes the "star", at the cost of some other great performers who would do great with the right stories.

While there's no doubt Shawn Michaels is extremely talented....I'm not that smitten with him. Aside from being infamous for backstage politics and being a raving egomaniac, everything from his promo style to his ring work always struck me as too theatrical and hammy

No doubt the guy's got some great matches in him...but I'd always pick guys like Benoit, Stone Cold, and Bret Hart over HBK for the gritty realism to their matches. I learned a long time ago from the Undertaker, Hulk Hogan, and Goldberg...being over doesn't make you good...just over.

Not that I'm compaired Shawn Michaels exceptional talents to the shoddy work of any of those three

Well it does help that Michaels plays the character in almost every match who is badly beaten up, and shouldnt go on, but somehow fights through it and continues to go on.... almost in every match.... I used to love michaels, but its only so often I can watch a match like that.....

Orton if he wins the belt will not hold it to wrestlemania.... I would almsot guarantee it......

I didnt say that Orton wont win the title, or that I wouldnt like him to..... Just think if he did he will at least lose it once before wrestlemania (although he might win it a second time)

If orton turns face, its hard to have a face hold the title that long and remain popular, because a good guy needs to triumph over adversity.... Although if he stayed heel, now that a different story as we saw with HHH last year.....

my opinion is..... give the title belt to Coach..... Muhuhahahaha

The Rock..... Egotism can work for a face..... I dont know how it would work in his case, but I cant see who he will face who is a face that would be credible.....

He should take out Flair anyway so he can add another name to the back of his shirt

Randy could beat him in a match where the loser needs to give up there pension...

To be the man, youve got to go on well past your prime and tarnish your image....

An Pension Match... god its the kind of thing Vince would make for PPV

Well, he better make it soon.... Flair is so old he'll probably forget who he is soon.....

Well, he's certainly forgotten how to wrestle

I've actually been coming round to the idea of Randy as number 1 contender....I still don't want him to lift the belt, but I am thinking it would be good for him to fued with Benoit. It would be good for Benoit to get the win...establishing himself as the legend Randy couldn't kill, and it would be good for Randy to be in the main event...because let's face it, Benoit can make anyone look good.

The idea of him as champion is one I'm still getting used to...eventually, I might not gag at the thought of Benoit jobbing to a rookie...but we'll see. Randy does, at least, work his ass off in the ring, and put on good matches. I'd not mind seeing him as champion...but he is NOT Kurt Angle or Brock Lesnar...he does NOT have either Kurt's skill or Brock's credibility that earned them a title run within their first year with the company. While I'd love to see Randy getting properly groomed as a future star, I think giving him a title run now would be too far, too fast.

I say give the title to Eugene!

I enjoy watching when the Rock wrestles. He's a funny person (I love his sarcasm and ego). He's also a pretty good actor from what I've seen so far.

BTW, Seraphina, great new avatar (love the glasses).

I also like to watch him wrestle. He's one hell of a showmen!

All the wrestlers give a lot in the ring.

I don't think the Rock is sell out. He likes doing movies- and he still wants to be part of WWE. To me a sell-out is a person that violates the principles they've espoused for money.

At 70 pages, I think this wrestling thread should be retired and we start a new one.

I don't know if anyone has heard this, but there continues to be rumors that Randy Orton will indeed defeat Chris Benoit for the title and hold it until Wrestlemania 21 where he will face Triple H. Also, it seems as if Randy Orton will be become face while Edge will turn heel and join evolution, taking Orton's place. What do you guys (and gals) think about that?

Um....there's been talk about that for several pages back, Saucy

Theres a randy orton????

Next you'll tell me he's a relation to cowboy bob.....

i really dislike randy orton.

His face just annoys me.

BTW why did batista attack Chris jericho??

I may be alittle behind here but i forgot to ask you lot.

That's not jealousy I detect, is it Wun?

Batista will face Jericho and Edge at Summerslam.... for the IC....

Thats where its heading.....

And as a man I think Randy is good looking, for someone who has no talent

If we beat up everyone who had a smarky look on there face..... Wouldnt france cease to exist?

If what i'm hearing is correct then i'm going to have to start warming up to Orton cuz at first i didn't like him because of his "legend killer" agenda, that just annoyed the hell out of me, but if his mic skills improve.....then maybe i won't mind him anymore