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I just realised Summerslam is like this week..... wow..... very little build up for me......
I didn't know it either..
I put it down to the WWE having little or no idea how to market anything anymore. If it's not Mania, there's no effort whatsoever behind it.
I put it down to the WWE having little or no idea how to market anything anymore. If it's not Mania, there's no effort whatsoever behind it.
Yes....... maybe a little less diva search, and a little more summerslam promotion.....
Summerslam PPV:
RAW Matches:
World Title Match
Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton
'Til Death Do Us Part Match
Kane vs. Matt Hardy
WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Chris Jericho vs. Edge vs. Batista
Dodgeball Game
Actual RAW Divas vs. RAW Diva Search Contestants
Triple H vs. Eugene
Smackdown Matches:
WWE Title Match
John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker
WWE U.S. Title Match
Booker T vs. John Cena
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle
Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, & Paul London vs. D-Von Dudley, Bubba Ray Dudley, & Spike Dudley
RAW Matches:
World Title Match
Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton
'Til Death Do Us Part Match
Kane vs. Matt Hardy
WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Chris Jericho vs. Edge vs. Batista
Dodgeball Game
Actual RAW Divas vs. RAW Diva Search Contestants
Triple H vs. Eugene
Smackdown Matches:
WWE Title Match
John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker
WWE U.S. Title Match
Booker T vs. John Cena
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle
Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, & Paul London vs. D-Von Dudley, Bubba Ray Dudley, & Spike Dudley
Dodgeball??? Almost the opposite of what those divas are gonna have to do to get the job....lol
The card isn't that bad, if fact it looks rather good.
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| World Title Match Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton |
Should be good match. Randy will win.
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| 'Til Death Do Us Part Match Kane vs. Matt Hardy |
Stupid story line. Matt Hardy's a good wrestler but I bet Kane doesn't sell anything and drags it down to a brawl. However, Matt's matches are usually worth watching in spit of his opponent. Matt'll win due to interference from Lita or HBK.
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| WWE Intercontinental Title Match Chris Jericho vs. Edge vs. Batista |
hmmm, Jericho's there, but can he carry the other two?
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| Dodgeball Game Actual RAW Divas vs. RAW Diva Search Contestants |
Who knows, Who cares
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| Triple H vs. Eugene |
Should be a good match
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| WWE Title Match John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker |
Awful match, but watching Taker bury JBL will be fun. Taker will win, but JBL will retain the title, e.g. disqualification or possibly Double KQ.
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| WWE U.S. Title Match Booker T vs. John Cena |
I hope Booker will win, and I doubt (pray) they will not take the title away so soon. However, they may give Cena the title due to two heels winning the main titles. Cena may not get the title so he can go against JBL. This should be a good match, and can go either way. However, I beleive Cena wiy Disqualification.
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| Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle |
This people, will be one for the ages. Eddie will win due to so many heel wins on the rest of the card, and to retain face after being beaten by... Bradshaw
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| Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, & Paul London vs. D-Von Dudley, Bubba Ray Dudley, & Spike Dudley |
Non-title match?
Then the Dudley's will win to make up for being hammered so many times during the last few weeks (by a team far more talented than they are).
Sorry guys, my memory was a bit fuzzy. Jeff Hardy never won the wwe championship (thank god) but i must have thought that cuz a few years ago i saw in disbelief him pinning triple h for the IC championship
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| April, 12 2001 Title Won: WWF Intercontinental Championship Won From: Triple H Location: Philadelphia, PA Held until: April 17, 2001 Lost To: Triple H Summary: It is considered one of the biggest upsets in World Wrestling Federation history. Angry over the Two Man Power Trip's attack on Lita that Monday on RAW, Jeff Hardy attacked Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley on the April 12, 2001, episode of SmackDown!, leading into an IC Title match later that night against Triple H. Up to this point, Jeff had been thought of as primarily a tag-team competitor. But thanks to interference by his brother, Matt, Jeff pinned The Game's shoulders to the mat to become Intercontinental Champion! His reign would be short-lived, however, as Triple H regained the title the following Monday on RAW. WWFTitleHistory.com |
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| Rena Mero, who performed for WWE as Sable, was released today according to two sources. WWE still has her listed on their website on the Smackdown roster and hasn't officially reported that she is no longer with the company. Mero spoke out against WWE's treatment of women in an article in the Fort Wayne Gazette last Friday. When Roddy Piper spoke out against WWE on an HBO special, he was released shortly thereafter. There is some speculation that she purposely made these comments in order to get fired so she could spend more time with boyfriend Brock Lesnar. WWE.com has added a brief note confirming that she is no longer with the company. |
Bye Bye
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| There is talk of Steven Richards and Victoria vs. Rodney Mack and Jazz program after Summerslam. Christian is booked against Edge in post Summerslam house show matches also. Shane McMahon and Bret Hart have numerous meetings with Shane McMahon about a DVD that will be released by WWE. Many in the WWE locker room are concerned with how Rob Van Dam has been used over the past few months. RVD is yet to be added to the SummerSlam pay-per-view, which is this Sunday. |
Why would anyone use RVD, he's not talented or over . . .
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| Ever since the implementation of the new dress code, WWE management has received many complaints. Several individuals feel that the dress code, which requires wrestlers to dress in a business like manner while traveling to and from events, is an unfair burden on wrestlers who already face a tough travel schedule. During a recent show in Corpus Christi, where the temperature ranged from 100 degrees, wrestlers were required to comply with the dress code while everyone else around them was wearing shorts and t-shirts. |
100 Degrees....
whats thats like 
Sable: "I dont like the way WWE treats women...."
WWE: "Your not paid to like it, get out...." hehehe
Dont let the door cause a leakage on your way out....
WWE: "Your not paid to like it, get out...." hehehe
Dont let the door cause a leakage on your way out....
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| World Title Match Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton |
Well, we already know that Randy's gonna go over, after a fued that's not even been built up....I just hope, for the love of all things that wrestle, that the WWE decide this is a bad idea, and at the very least have Benoit get the win...even if they go on to fued for another month, and have Benoit lose it then, at LEAST it's a fued with some history. Having Orton win now would be ridiculous.
It's still what's gonna happen though...
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| 'Til Death Do Us Part Match Kane vs. Matt Hardy |
This match won't have a decisive finnish one way or the other...I expect Kane to win, just so (come the wedding) Matt can come out and object (all the while with the crowd either silent, or chanting "bo-ring"). After all, why would the WWE miss a chance to continue a horrible storyline?
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| WWE Intercontinental Title Match Chris Jericho vs. Edge vs. Batista |
Like Talon said, Jericho will set the pace of the match for the other two. Batista will be the strong arm supporting character, with most of the action delegated to building this possible fued between Jericho and Edge. One of those two will win it...probably Edge.
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| Dodgeball Game Actual RAW Divas vs. RAW Diva Search Contestants |
Do you think the crowd need to shout "boring" louder before Vince hears it?
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| Triple H vs. Eugene |
Eugine'll win it. Triple H has been made to look like a monster up until now, and I think Eugine will get the win just to cement his come back. That is, unless the Triper is back to booking himself as the one man wrecking ball.
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| WWE Title Match John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker |
Set to be the worst match of the night. Neither of these guys can work...Taker because he's too past it, Bradshaw because...well....he can't
Taker won't walk away with the title...he's a fair weather performer and, as much as I hate Bradshaw, I agree that the WWE can't put the title on a guy who isn't going to be there to perform every single week. Like Talon, I can't see them having Taker lose though...probably a DQ or a count out.
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| WWE U.S. Title Match Booker T vs. John Cena |
Good match. Booker T should win....or at the very least, I hope he does.
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| Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle |
Match of the night...it's also hard to pick a winner. Kurt's on his return, and people almost ALWAYS win their return matches...and while it's true Eddie might get the win to get his credibility back, the bookers have shown no respect for his talents whatsoever recently. It's hard to call....either way, good match. If they don't get 30-35 mins, I'll vomit.
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| Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, & Paul London vs. D-Von Dudley, Bubba Ray Dudley, & Spike Dudley |
The Dudley's suck, but they hardly ever lose at a ppv. I'll give this win to them, especially if it's a non-title match.
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| There is some speculation that she purposely made these comments in order to get fired so she could spend more time with boyfriend Brock Lesnar. |
You just know that when they have children, all they're gonna get are little blobs of muscular cellulite.
AS long as Jericho loses I'll be happy.... *cough* 
You know Subby...if you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand. But, since it's you, all let you off...
....with a severed testicle
....with a severed testicle
Still.... Youd have to catch them first
So if boh Jericho and Eugene lose.... Im in trouble?
So if boh Jericho and Eugene lose.... Im in trouble?
I've been away for a while...sort of sick, and my PC's internet doesn't always work...I've been attempting to get on for a few days...
anyway, care to fill me in on what I've missed???
anyway, care to fill me in on what I've missed???
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| AS long as Jericho loses I'll be happy.... |
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| Joltin' Joe conducted a brief interview today at Ontario Place with the World Heavyweight Champion, Chris Benoit! Joe began by asking Chris for his thoughts on defending the title against Randy Orton. Benoit stated that he's looking forward to his match against Orton who's a gifted, third generation superstar. He also mentioned that Orton's a technical wrestler much like himself and he's confident that he will make Orton tap out. |
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| With this week's dismal 3.2 RAW rating, many within the company were shocked by such a low rating, especially heading up to the SummerSlam PPV. Some feel that those working with the RAW brand are becoming too nearsighted and aren't seeing the obvious flaws with the product that the fans are seeing. Others blame the 16% drop from the previous week on the NFL Pre-Season Hall of Fame game that was played on Monday, however in previous years the RAW rating for the same week improved or stayed the same from the week before so that theory can be tossed out. Whatever the reason, things aren't looking too good heading into one of the biggest PPV events of the year for the WWE. |
I think who ever thought up answer one was obviously on the right track... and therefore not a McMahon or on the writting team.
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| Batista likely won't be winning the IC Title at Summerslam as TV ads for the live Raw taping in Beaumont, Tex. on September 3 advertise Edge vs. Chris Jericho for the Intercontinental Title, so one of those two will apparently win the three-way IC Title match at Summerslam. The ad also plugged that a Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton rematch was also booked for the show. |
Wow,
giving away the result before the match even happens, what a great way to get people to buy the pay-per-view. | QUOTE |
| Following Summerslam, John Heidenreich will be feuding with the Undertaker. Vince McMahon is pretty sold on Heidenreich, and considers this to be make-or-break time for him. Many have noted that Heidenreich had not improved much of his in-ring work since his run on RAW as "Big" John Heidenreich. While Heidenreich is considered a very nice guy and is pretty popular among some locker room circles, many feel that he just does not have what it takes, and there are not many wrestlers backstage that are eager to carry him through matches. |
Which means Heidenreich is gonna cost Taker the match a SS.
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| In a recent interview with WWE Byte This, Matt Hardy had some unkind words for WWE's Diva Search, while articulating the viewpoint of most hardcore WWE fans. The following quote was transcribed by PWTorch.com: Well, these girls already have an uphill battle to begin with because the WWE fans are WWE fans and that's what they come in to the arenas to see, that's what they tune in their TV to see. And I understand the concept behind it [but] I don't really know how successful it's going to be on that level because our WWE fans, they respect the people like myself, and people like Edge, people who have busted their asses for years and years and years and really got a providing where they are and even the girls, like Lita, who's had a broken neck, or like Trish, who has got a broken hand right now, these girls who bust their ass to get where they are. Just when you have some people walk in who seem like their models off the street and maybe using the WWE to head into something else, it'll be hard for the girls to garner respect. So, as far as the concept, I understand it. As far as generating interest and trying to put some pretty girls on TV to be the next diva, as far as our fans respecting it, I don't know." |
Kinda shows that at least wrestlers know what the fans want, even if the writters and management don't.
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| Producer of the vignettes that have been airing on SmackDown, Paul Heyman had been pleading with management to refrain from booking John Heidenreich in a televised match until after Summerslam. Although Heidenreich is still set to feud with Undertaker, Heyman is noticeably concerned that his new "protege" will not get over very well due to his sub-par in-ring skills. |
As does Heyman
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| The next WWE video game will be "Raw vs. Smackdown." The game's producer, Chris Ledesma, was interviewed by the Game Informer website recently and revealed some of the new enhancements. "Consumers will definitely see and feel a substantial leap forward in every aspect of the game, over last year's product," Ledesma said. "Every mode in the game has been improved upon, and a couple of new modes have been added as well, such as create a pay-per-view, create a championship, and challenge mode." Ledesma declined to say whether the game would be available in an online format. |
Socking filler
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| Although Hulk Hogan has been mentioning Ted Turner's name in recent interviews with regards to a new wrestling promotion, many feel that Hogan is just trying to gain some bargaining leverage with Vince McMahon. One WWE insider tells PWTorch.com that Hogan would "drop everything and be here immediately if Vince called him." |
...... oh cr**Btw, I couldn't help but notice in the Debate the Footballers seemed to costantly refer to the WWE as if it were the only (or for that matter a) wrestling fed. Krow / Sera you guys are going correct this issue arn't you?
I'm not sure if this bit of news has been released here yet, but Sable has been fired.
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| I'm not sure if this bit of news has been released here yet, but Sable has been fired. |
It has
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| Krow / Sera you guys are going correct this issue arn't you? |
First port of call in my intro was to do so. It's not quite finished yet, but I'll be posting it later today.
And youll be losing shortly 
I have an update on Sable getting fired.
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| After much speculation, PWTorch.com reports that the official reason for Sable's release was not any single issue speculated earlier. Apparently, Sable had asked for a reduced schedule; a demand that WWE was not interested in meeting. Combined with the fact that she wanted a reduced schedule, her ties with Brock Lesnar and interview comments did not help the situation. The feeling, however, is that the interview definitely would not have led to her release without either of the other two factors. WWE not only monitored the interview as it was being completed, but aims to allow their workers 'controlled free speech.' In fact, despite common belief, the internal reason for Roddy Piper's past release was not his HBO interview, but the fact that he was miserable while performing his job. |
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| Matt Hardy has written an update on his official website (hosted by WWE) and tells fans that he will be undergoing major reconstructive knee surgery to repair damage to his MCL and ACL. The surgery will require a recovery time of 6-8 months and is expected to take place soon after this Sunday's Summerslam match against Kane. Hardy is currently involved in a major storyline involving Lita and will face Kane in a "Till Death Do Us Part" match. Kane was recently revealed as the storyline father of Lita's baby, and the winner of the match will get to marry Lita. |
This means Kane will win the match.
A shame, Matt's a good wrestler.
Wow.... Kanes first PPV win for the year.... August.....
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| Wow.... Kanes first PPV win for the year.... August..... |
Man's on a roll, big push, winning matches, marrage, and a baby on the way
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| For the upcoming August 22nd WWE house in Palm Springs, Chris Benoit is advertised as defending the World Title against Randy Orton. Several people have e-mailed me about this, so one would think that Benoit will retain the title. However, plans often change back and forth, so don't be surprised if Orton wins the title at Summerslam. |
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| I have heard from several sources that Shawn Michaels' wife gave birth either late Thursday night or early Friday morning. As previously reported here on PWInsider.com, WWE has been planning on Shawn Michaels returning at Summerslam, but it had been made clear that Michaels would not be appearing until his wife gave birth (her due date was 8/8). It would appear that the road is now clear for Michaels to appear on Sunday at the PPV, presumably to get involved in the Kane-Matt Hardy match. We will have more on this story as it becomes available. |
BAAAAAHHHHHHHHH wrestling boo hiss
COME ON FOOTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
COME ON FOOTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
You mind not doing that in our thread, you don't see me going into yours and starting to insult other people's interests
Jesus talon aquire a sense of humour i was clearly only kiddin on .
It was regarding the debate we're having.
Remove the stick man.
It was regarding the debate we're having.
Remove the stick man.
You know you could just say you were joking or add a smilie to your post rather than insulting me by saying I have no sense of humour and 'a stick'
Back to wrestling.. or at least something passing itself odd as wrestling;
Back to wrestling.. or at least something passing itself odd as wrestling;
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| Apparently, WWE is afraid of a potential relationship developing with talent and contestants. Firstly, they don't want any sexual harassment situation, nor do they want a married wrestler getting involved with one of the divas, which could escalate into a blackmail situation. Finally, in terms of fairness, they don't want the possibility of one of the divas "sleeping" her way to the contract, so to speak. |
Am I the only person, who absolutely sees no need for this whole Search cr*p?
I completely agree with you Talon.... At least it can only go on a few more weeks.... (I havent watched raw lately so i dont care as much as I would normally)
I wanted Kane to win it...
I wanted Kane to win it...
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| I wanted Kane to win it... |
You know...the only time this stupid diva search has even had anything to DO with wrestling is when Chris used it to take the yellow out of Kane...for maybe two minutes, it was almost worth enduring just for that sketch
But it's not really...it's stupid, and to be honest I find it quite offensive. Not offensive in a femanist way, but offensive as a wrestling fan...I don't see what it has to do with the product, in the ring or out of it, and it saddens me that the WWE writers are so clueless that they're putting more promotion work into this than they are into one of the biggest ppvs of the year
Although on the plus side, I thought Chris Benoit's "roll the footage" skit was a work of genius
Well I think they have enough "Chicks" that cant wrestle.... So why bother getting more?
At least Jericho will have more people to share his wardrobe with
At least Jericho will have more people to share his wardrobe with
Well people, we're only a few short hours away from Summerslam, so if you've got any last minute predictions, make them now
For those who don't know, I have a job interveiw tommorow, so I might not be staying up to watch it...however, I will make sure to provide a usual commentary on what I thought of the show at the earliest chance I get
For those who don't know, I have a job interveiw tommorow, so I might not be staying up to watch it...however, I will make sure to provide a usual commentary on what I thought of the show at the earliest chance I get
I thought there was something to say, here, but I'm totally lost. One of the Divas in the search will win, that's my bold prediction. And some irritating goofus will have a painfully unfunny sign.
I think it's gonna be hard to make predictions for this PPV because most of these matches are a toss up, but I hope Shelton, Christian, or HBK will make there return tonight
I wanna change my Eddie win to Kurt
I'm seriously upset that we are only 35 minutes into the show and already on our thrird match.
PPV so far (From NoDQ.com
, minus the spywear on that site )
I'm seriously upset that we are only 35 minutes into the show and already on our thrird match.
PPV so far (From NoDQ.com
, minus the spywear on that site )| QUOTE |
| Six Man Tag Team Match Referee: Jim Korderas The Dudley Boyz vs. Rey Mysterio, Paul London and Billy Kidman As the Dudleys got in the ring, footage of Spike Dudley turning on Rey Mysterio was shown and since then, Spike Dudley has unleashed a new side to himself as he aligned himself with his brothers, the Dudley Boyz. The start: D-Von Dudley started the match off in the ring against Billy Kidman and the two locked it up in the ring and D-Von gave Billy a shot to the mid section and then he backed Billy into the corner and hammered away on him. D-Von whipped Billy to the other side of the ring and Billy hopped over D-Von and pulled him down to the mat with a head scissors. D-Von Dudley gave Paul London a body slam and then Spike Dudley came off the top rope with a stomp to the chest. Spike then taunted Rey Mysterio and he tried to get in the ring but the referee restrained him as the crowd started chanting "We want tables!" D-Von Dudley gave Paul London a body slam and then Spike Dudley came off the top rope with a stomp to the chest. Spike then taunted Rey Mysterio and he tried to get in the ring but the referee restrained him as the crowd started chanting "We want tables!" Billy Kidman planted Spike Dudley with the BK Bomb and a pin but only got a two count as Bubba Ray broke it up. All six men then got in the ring and the referee lost control of the match until Kidman and London knocked both of the Dudleys out of the ring. Paul London then went off the ropes as Billy Kidman ducked down and Paul London jumped off of Kidman's back with a suicide hilo onto Bubba Ray. Billy Kidman held onto Spike and Rey charged at Spike with a clothesline to send him down to the mat and then Billy Kidman gave him a slingshot into the ropes and then Rey Mysterio hit the 619 and then Kidman hit the shooting star press to pin Spike for a two count as D-Von made the save. The finish: The action then spilled to the outside of the ring and Paul London got laid out with a belt shot to the head and then the Dudleys got back in the ring with Billy Kidman and planted him with the 3D. Spike Dudley then got in the ring and covered Billy Kidman for the three count to pick up the win. Winners - The Dudleys |
Match 2: Matt vs Kane
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| Lita's music hit in the arena and she made her way out to the ring and she looked to be showing a little bit, as said by Jerry Lawler and then Matt Hardy made his way out and this is a one on one match with Matt Hardy facing Kane in this "Till Death Do Us Part" Match. If Kane wins this match, he will marry Lita but if Matt Hardy wins, Kane will leave Matt and Lita alone and they can wed if they wish. As Kane got in the ring, Matt Hardy nailed him and then slammed him into the corner and hammered away on him. Kane whipped Matt to the other side of the ring and charged at him but Matt kicked Kane in the face. Matt then hopped to the second rope and gave Kane a side effect by jumping off the second rope. Matt Hardy gave Kane a tornado DDT from the second rope and then he pinned him but only got a two count. Matt then laid into Kane with some right and left hands to back him into the corner. Kane then fired out of the corner with a hard upper cut to send Matt down to the mat. Matt Hardy gave Kane the twist of fate on the outside of the ring and then he got back in the ring and told the referee to start the ten count and if Kane gets counted out, Matt Hardy is the winner of the match. Referee Mike Chioda started his count and Kane sat up at the count of six and then he slowly got up and got back in the ring at the count of nine. As Kane rolled into the ring, Matt stomped away on him and then Lita went over and grabbed the ring bell and set it on the ring apron for Matt. Lita then went over and distracted the referee, giving Matt Hardy the opportunity to clock Kane with the ring bell. Matt then covered Kane but only got a two count as Kane put his foot on the middle rope to break the pin. Matt Hardy headed to the top rope and jumped off at Kane but Kane caught him by the throat. Matt fought out of the choke slam predicament and then he went for the twist of fate but Kane shoved Matt into the ropes and then knocked Matt down with a big boot. Kane then headed to the top rope and Matt got up and knocked Kane down to straddle the top rope. Matt laid into Kane with a number of hard right hands and then he climbed up and went for a super DDT but Kane grabbed Matt by the throat and gave him the biggest choke slam (in the ring) in the history of Summer Slam from the second rope! Kane then pinned Matt Hardy for the three count to pick up the win! The Aftermath: Lita looked disappointed from the outside of the ring and she nodded in disapproval as she walked away from the ring and Kane had a huge smile on his face as Lita was almost in tears. Kane got out of the ring and walked down the aisle with his arms open for Lita but Lita took a look at him and ran to the back. |
Winner: Kane
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| Todd Grisham was shown with Randy Orton and Todd spoke about what just happened and he said that Lita has got to be upset. Randy said upset? Why would anyone be upset? Tonight is a night for celebration. Summer Slam 2004 is going to go down in history because one of the most talented, charismatic and best looking WWE Superstars is going to ascend to greatness tonight. Tonight will be... John Cena was seen standing by and he said that tonight will be the night that the Franchise opens shop on Booker T's ass. John told Randy that he's going to look nice and he's a fan of his too and he knows he has fans out there but let's see how many fans he has out there. John asked the fans if they like Randy Orton and the fans booed. John then asked the crowd if Randy Orton is going to beat Chris Benoit for the World Championship? The crowd booed and John said "welp, at least you have the people behind you. Hah." Randy then said that he doesn't care what a bunch of ass backward Canadians think and he doesn't care what John Cena thinks. Quite frankly, it's a bit pathetic that John Cena had to interrupt Randy's interview to get some airtime. None the less, tonight, Randy Orton is going to leave Toronto as the youngest World Heavyweight Champion... ever. |
Booker vs Cena
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| Booker T's music hit in the arena and he made his way out to the ring as the United States Champion and this is the first match in the best of five series for the United States Championship with Booker T against John Cena! Booker T and John Cena stood face to face and exchanged words and then the two exchanged right hands until Booker T gave John Cena a knee to the mid section. Booker then whipped Cena off the ropes and went for a clothesline but Cena ducked the clothesline and nailed Booker with a clothesline of his own and then a pin for a two count. John Cena gave Booker T some hard right hands and then he went off the ropes and came back and went for a hard right hand but Booker T knocked Cena down to the mat with a side kick. Booker T then put John Cena in a camel clutch in an attempt to get him to give it up but John Cena got back to his feet and lifted Booker up on his back and then rammed him into the turnbuckles. Booker T knocked Cena down to the mat and then he did the spinaroonie and hopped back up to his feet and John Cena grabbed Booker T and gave him the FU and then a pin for the three count to pick up the win a relatively short match. |
Cena 1 / Booker 0
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| Theodore Long was shown backstage and he was proud of the Best of 5 Series. Someone entered the room and it was RAW General Manager Eric Bischoff. Theodore asked Eric what he can do for him? Eric said that he thought he'd stop by and congratulate him. His new position as General Manager, Eric is very proud of him. It seems like every time we have one of these RAW/Smackdown! joint pay per views, he's dealing with another General Manager of Smackdown!. What is he now, number four? There was Stephanie McMahon, Paul Heyman, Kurt Angle and now him. Eric said he wanted to give him some advice; learn as much as he can and enjoy it as long as he can because at the rate we are going, by the time Survivor Series rolls around, let's just say he doubts Theodore will be around. Don't take it personally, it's just reality. Theodore said that he can appreciate that, just like Eric can appreciate this. Tonight, Theodore doesn't know whether his nephew Eugene will beat Triple H or not or if Eric will succeed in getting rid of him but if he ever does, then Theodore has no problem signing Eugene to Smackdown! and making him the biggest Superstar ever. That not only goes for Eugene but that goes for every Superstar on RAW that are sick of Eric Bischoff and they want out. Now that's nothing personal, that's just reality. You feel me? Theodore then told Eric that he betta 'holla, holla, holla!' |
Batista vs. Chris Jericho vs. Edge
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| Batista's music hit in the arena and he made his way out to the ring for a Triple Threat Match against Chris Jericho and Edge with Edge's Intercontinental Title on the line! As Edge got in the ring and pranced around, Batista attacked him from behind and sent him to the arena floor. Chris Jericho then attacked Batista and the two went at it as the crowd chanted "Y2J, Y2J!" Chris laid into Batista with some knife edge chops and right hands in the corner until Batista shoved Jericho down to the mat. Chris hopped right back up and continued to go at it with Batista. Batista went for the power bomb on Chris Jericho but Edge got in the ring and hit Batista with a chop block to send him down to the mat. Edge then stomped away on Batista and then he lifted him up in the corner and gave him some right hands until Batista whipped Edge to the other side of the ring. Edge went to the second rope and jumped off at Batista but Batista kicked him in the gut and then Batista lifted Edge up and hit him with a snake eyes on the top turnbuckle. Batista went off the ropes but Chris pulled Batista down to the mat and then Batista knocked Chris down. Edge knocked Batista to the outside of the ring and the crowd heavily booed him as Jim Ross noted that there are no count outs or disqualifications in this match. The only way to win is by pinfall or submission. Chris Jericho hit Edge with a high cross body and Edge rolled through and used the ropes for leverage to get a two count. Moments later, Chris Jericho put Edge in the Walls of Jericho as the crowd was pro-Jericho and Edge fought to get to the ropes. Edge was close to tapping out as he couldn't get to the ropes but Batista got in the ring and nailed Jericho in the back of the head with a clothesline. Batista then whipped Jericho into the steel ring post and then he went for a clothesline on Edge but Edge ducked it and gave Batista a DDT and then a pin for a two count. Edge is heel; crowd booed him all the way. Edge went to the corner for a spear on Batista but Chris Jericho interrupted it and knocked Edge down to the mat. Batista then gave Jericho a spinebuster and then a pin for a two count. The finish: Chris Jericho gave Edge a bulldog and then Batista hopped up to the ring apron and Chris hit him with a springboard drop kick to send him down to the arena floor and then Edge hit Chris Jericho with the spear and then a pin for the three count to retain the Intercontinental Championship! |
Winner: Edge
Angle vs Eddie
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| Kurt Angle's music hit in the arena and he made his way out to the ring along with Luther Reigns and this is Kurt Angle's first match on pay per view since Wrestlemania and he is wrestling against Eddie Guerrero in a rematch from Wrestlemania! The start: Eddie Guerrero and Kurt Angle locked it up in the center of the ring and Kurt went to the legs and lifted Eddie Guerrero up and then took him down into a waist lock. Eddie fought to get out of the waist lock and then he took Kurt down with a fireman carry. The two kept it tied up and Angle backed Eddie Guerrero into the corner as the crowd chanted "Let's go Angle!" Eddie Guerrero went to the ankle of Kurt Angle early in the match but couldn't lock in the ankle lock. Later on, Eddie Guerrero went back to the ankle and actually grabbed Kurt and put him in the ankle lock in an attempt to get him to tap out. Kurt fought to get to the ropes but then he rolled over and jammed his thumb into Eddie Guerrero's eye. Kurt Angle then gave Eddie Guerrero the Angle Slam and then he pulled down the straps and went for the ankle lock on Eddie Guerrero and got it on. Eddie fought to get out of the ankle lock and he grabbed Kurt by the ankle and both men had the ankle lock on but Kurt torched on the ankle of Guerrero to force Eddie to break the hold. Eddie then fought to get to the bottom rope to force the referee to break the hold. As the referee restrained Kurt Angle, Luther Reigns gave Eddie Guerrero a boot to the back of the head and then Kurt Angle put Eddie Guerrero chopped away on Kurt Angle and Kurt ducked down and took Eddie down to the mat and then twisted up on the ankle and put him in a modified version of the STF. Kurt eventually released the hold and gave Eddie Guerrero an elbow drop to the inner knee section and Eddie grabbed Kurt in a cross arm breaker and the referee counted a one count in favor of Eddie Guerrero as Kurt Angle quickly got out of it. Eddie Guerrero back in the ankle lock but Eddie once again escaped the hold. Kurt took Eddie down to the mat and put the pressure on his leg and then he started to unlace his boot as Eddie fought to try to get out of the hold. Kurt held onto a headlock on Eddie as he fought to get up and then Eddie gave Kurt a jaw breaker followed by the Angle Slam on Kurt Angle to take him down to the mat. With both men down on the mat, the referee started the count and both men got back to their feet at the count of nine. Eddie Guerrero's boot came loose but none the less, he continued to go at it with Kurt Angle. Eddie hooked Kurt in a front face lock and gave him a series of vertical suplexes. Eddie Guerrero then went to the top rope as his ankle was in pain and Kurt Angle popped up off the mat and gave Eddie Guerrero a belly to belly suplex from the top rope and then he pinned Eddie but only got a two count. Kurt Angle went for the Angle Slam but Eddie Guerrero countered it into a DDT to pull Kurt down to the mat. Eddie then held onto his leg and then headed towards the top rope and came off with the frog splash but Angle rolled out of the way. Angle then gave Eddie Guerrero the Angle Slam and then a pin for a two count. The crowd chanted for Eddie and Kurt pulled Eddie's boot off and then he put the ankle lock on the exposed foot and then Eddie caused Angle and the referee to collide, sending the referee down to the mat. Eddie Guerrero then nailed Kurt Angle with the boot and then he went over and hit Luther Reigns with it. Eddie then acted as if he was nailed with the boot as the referee got up and the referee started the count. Eddie Guerrero went to the top rope and came off with the frog splash and then he pinned Kurt Angle but only got a two count as Kurt Angle was somehow able to kick out of the frog splash. Eddie Guerrero then went over to the referee but Kurt pulled him down to the mat by the ankle and put him in the ankle lock and Eddie tried to get out of it but Kurt held onto it and then he trapped Eddie's other leg to stop him from moving and then he locked the leg and twisted away on Eddie's ankle to force him to tap out and the crowd roared in approval as the referee called for the bell. Winner - Kurt Angle The Aftermath: As Kurt Angle's music played, the crowd chanted "You suck, you suck" to sing along to his theme song. Strange crowd, huh? |
Winner: Kurt
Eugene vs HHH
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| Triple H's music hit in the arena and he made his way out to the ring and this is a one on one match with the Game facing Eric Bischoff's nephew, Eugene! At the sound of the bell, both Eugene and Triple H laid into each other with right hands until Triple H kicked Eugene in the mid section to send him back. Triple H then hit Eugene with some more right hands to knock him down to the mat. Triple H backed Eugene into the corner and hit him with a hard right hand and then a kick to the mid section. HHH tries to suplex Eugene to the outside, but Eugene counters and suplexes HHH into the ring. He gets ten punches on the top rope, but as HHH fakes a knee injury, Eugene backs off, worried about HHH's condition. Eugene turns around to discuss the situation with the ref, which allows HHH to get up and knock Eugene to the outside. HHH brings Eugene back into the ring and continues the offense. More "Eugene Sucks" chants as the announcers try to show that the crowd respects HHH's accomplishments in the business. Eugene works HHH into the corner and seems to fall for HHH's begging. However, he then pulls HHH up and gets a Rock Bottom. He then mocks Rock by going for a People's Elbow, but HHH gets up and hits a spinebuster. HHH goes to the outside and rams Eugene into the steel steps. Eugene's shoulder is cut open. HHH brings Eugene back into the center of the ring and his him with punches to the head. Eugene gets up and starts sending some punches into HHH's face. HHH quickly gets the sleeper on Eugene and works him into the mat for a short rest. Eugene gets up and out of the sleeper, but walks right into a kick to the groin. HHH goes for the pedigree, but Eugene counters to more boos. Eugene goes wild and gets some offense in on Eugene, including an atomic drop and clothesline. He tries to lift HHH onto his shoulders, but HHH gets off. However, Eugene then hits HHH with a Stone Cold Stunner, causing The Game to go to the outside. Ric Flair comes down to the ring, getting many "woos." HHH uses the stall to his advantage, but walks right into a Eugene big boot. He then mocks Hulk Hogan as he goes for, and connects, a leg drop. Two-count. Eugene gets a Pedigree, but Ric Flair sticks HHH's leg on the rope. Eugene then runs into the ropes, but gets tripped by Flair. The ref sends a pissed off Flair to the back. William Regal comes down and takes down Flair. Eugene celebraes Regal's appearance, which gives HHH the chance to get the pedigree for the win. Winner: Triple H |
Diva Dodgeball
I don't care report on this, if you want to know what happened go to NoDQ and risk the spywear yourself to find out. All I'll say it, the Divals lost and NoDQ said 'Very weak segment'.
The diva search vs diva dodgeball went for less then 5 minutes, so i was pleased.....
Oh god...... Its official...... Sera, I wish the fued had of gone on a little longer myself too.....
JBL vs Undertaker
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| The music of the Undertaker hit in the arena and he made his way out to the ring as the challenger to JBL's WWE Heavyweight Championship in the Smackdown! main event! Orlando Jordan accompanied John Bradshaw Layfield to the ring in this match. The start: The Undertaker and JBL locked it up in the center of the ring and the Undertaker shoved John Bradshaw Layfield right out of the ring and then he got out of the ring and stalked JBL as JBL backed off. JBL pointed the other way and Taker looked back and JBL went for a cheap shot but the Undertaker was just too quick for JBL. The Undertaker went for the 'old school' arm wringer but John Bradshaw Layfield was able to stop him from heading to the top rope. JBL gave the Undertaker a side slam and then he pinned him but only got a two count. JBL then went to the top rope and came off with a shoulder block to send the Undertaker down to the mat and then he covered Taker but only got a two count. Orlando pulls JBL's leg under the rope, causing Taker to break the hold. Taker runs into JBL, but gets a boot. However, Taker gets back on the offensive. Jordan checks on JBL, but Taker nails him with a shot. JBL then takes out Taker's left knee. As Orlando distracts the ref, JBL slams a chair into Taker's knee, ramming it into the steel steps. Taker quickly counters and slams JBL's head into the steps. JBL gets in the ring and continues the offense on Undertaker. The crowd, clearly bored, has started a wave. Undertaker gets control of JBL's leg, but JBL quickly gets the rope. Taker gets on the offensive and hits a rolling kneebar. Undertaker tosses JBL to the outside and slams his head off the Spanish announce table. He then brings JBL onto the apron and hits him with a big right hand. Taker sets JBL up on the top rope and hits a big superplex. He gets a cover, but it's only good for two. JBL eventually gets up and continues the assault on Taker's knee, but Undertaker responds with a spinebuster. Undertaker tosses JBL to the outside and slams his head off the Spanish announce table. Undertaker continues his run and hits JBL with his own version of the clothesline from hell. Once again, it's only a two-count. Taker gets a chokeslam in on JBL and goes for another cover. Yet another two-count. Orlando Jordan gets on the apron, causing Taker to run over and knock him off. This allows JBL to get up and hit the Clothesline From Hell. However, he can only get a two-count. The ref gets hit as both hit the boot and simultaneously get knocked down. Orlando Jordan gives JBL the belt with the referee knocked out, and then pulls the ref in as JBL gets the cover on Undertaker. However, Taker kicks out of the belt shot and knocks Jordan to the outside. Yet another Clothesline From Hell to Taker, and JBL works Taker into the corner. Taker gets the Last Ride, but can only score a two-count due to the slow referee. Taker then knocks JBL out with the belt, but the ref sees it and disqualifies him. Winner: John Bradshaw Layfield Taker then pulls the bull horns off JBL's car and goes to work on JBL out of frustration. |
WInner: JBL
Beniot vs Orton
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| Orton and Benoit lock-up in the ring, as Benoit works Orton into the corner. Hebner's getting the "You Screwed Bret" chants. Orton works on Benoit's arm, but Benoit gets down and drop-toe-holds Orton into a nice headlock, followed by a reverse chinlock. The two lock-up in a knucklelock, but Orton has trouble overpowering Orton. Benoit then gets an overhand wristlock on Orton and works him to the mat. Orton brings Benoit up to his feet, but Benoit keeps control of the action. He continues working on Orton's arm. Orton once again gets to his feet, and gives Benoit a huge elbow. He whips Benoit into the ropes, but Benoit holds up and dodges a dropkick. Benoit goes for a sharpshooter, but Orton counters and gets his own version of the move. Orton keeps the move locked in, but Benoit is able to counter and sets Orton up in a sharpshooter. Orto fights for the ropes, but before he can grab them, Benoit sets up a Crippler Crossface. Orton rolls to the outside, but Benoit won't break the hold. Orton then rams Benoit into the post. The action goes onto the apron, and Benoit hits Orton with a huge chop. He then DDTs Orton off of the apron, before rolling him back into the ring. Two-count. Benoit sends Orton to the outside, before going for a suicide dive. However, he ends up going face first into the security wall, allowing Orton to take control. Orton continues the work on Benoit's neck, hitting him with a neck-wringer. Orton then gets a modified camel clutch on Benoit, exerting pressure on his neck. Benoit's working his way out of Orton's hold, and breaks free with some elbows, however Orton keeps control with a European uppercut. Orton then turns a gut wrench into a backbreaker. The crowd loved the move. Orton puts Benoit in a hold once again. Benoit gets up and hits Orton with chops. They then go off the ropes and collide with cross bodies in the center of the ring. Both men are down. Benoit hits Orton with some suplexes and keeps in control with more chops. Benoit goes upstairs, seemingly trying for a superplex, but Orton shoves him off onto his back. Orton then hits Benoit with a huge cross body, but only for two. Benoit gets another belly-to-back suplex and puts Orton in a sharpshooter. Benoit pulls the move in very tightly, and Orton cannot get the ropes. Orton finally gets the bottom rope, getting some time to relax. Benoit goes over to Orton and gets yet another German Suplex, make that six German suplexes. Benoit signals that the end is near and goes up top for a flying headbutt. However, Orton lifts his knees and counters Benoit's attack. Orton goes for a pin, but only gets a two-count. Benoit then gets a quick Crippler Crossface in on Orton. Orton's able to roll out of the hold and elbows Benoit in the face. Benoit tries to get another crippler, but Orton hits the RKO for the win. |
Winner: Randy Orton
Back form my interveiw...I had a chance to watch Judgement day before I left...since the full results have already been posted, I'll just give my 2 cents on the overall quality. As usual, the matches will be rated out of 5 stars.
Match 1 - The Dudley Boyz vs. Rey Mysterio, Paul London and Billy Kidman
Just your average crowdwarmerupper, and with a very expected Spike win that would continue his heel push. They had some good spots, and I think managed to stop just short of being a meaningless spot fest (I'm still happy just seeing Paul London finally on tv)
Rating: *** (fair match to start off the card, and featuring the usual high flying high spots that get the crowd warmed up).
Match 2: Matt vs Kane
You know, I spent most of this one with my back to the tv...I expected it to get longer than it did, and I was surprised when it ended before I finished reading a post on the board About the only thing I enjoyed about this match was the call Jerry the King Lawyler made at the start, about it being like something out of a bad soap opera
How right he was...
Rating: ** (rather dull, and not ppv quality. I admit my veiw of the match may be slightly coloured by the absolutely dire storyline though)
Match 3: Booker vs Cena
Another one that ended with surprising speed, but it wasn't all that bad. I had hoped these guys would have gotten a little more time, but they'll probably hold off on the long match until they reach the fifth of the series (let's face it, there's no way they're gonna cut it off early). Since it was so short, it was really just the kinda match you'd see on Smackdown, but it wasn't bad...I'm gonna rate it a little higher than the opening, just because I've always prefered one on one matches.
I do worry a little that this series defeats the purpose of "delayed gratification". Although it should be tence to see what happens when Cena inevitably falls behind (I'm willing to bet Booker T gets the next two wins in a row, before Cena gets another, making the fifth for the tie breaker)
Rating: ***1/4
Match 4: Batista vs. Chris Jericho vs. Edge
I think Edge is starting to refind his niche in the ring...Jericho was in his usual zone, and Batista functioned very well as the strong arm of the match. Overall it wasn't the smoothest triple threat match I've ever seen, but I believe it could have been a lot worse. I did enjoy it more than the preceding matches.
It's also good to see Edge's heel transition has worked fine in the eyes of the crowd...although they might just have been booing him because he was wrestling Chris (then again...that's probably the method of turning him heel).
Rating: ***3/4
Match 5: Angle vs Eddie
You know...I was actually a little disapointed....Kurt seemed a little rusty to me. He did do a masterful job of working the leg at the start, but not only did he go on to completely abandon this for the middle third of the match, but there were times he didn't seem to know what he was going to do next...it was, however, still a very good, technically sound match. I noticed the crowd were very pro-Angle, probably because they were happy to finally see him in the ring again.
If I know Kurt, he'll wipe off that rust very quickly indeed.
Rating: **** - Falls very pale next to their last match though...
Match 6: Eugene vs HHH
This was actually pretty entertaining...I loved Eugine's spot where, while doing a ten punch combo on the turnbuckle and shouting out the numbers, he stopped at eight, counted out on his fingers to remember what came next, and then continued
I like Eugine still...but I do think the crowd were very against him here. It could be that the novelty of the gimmick is started to wear off. I can see the gimmick being needed to make a big change sometime in the near future.
Rating: ***1/2 - like I say, not bad...Triple H's work rate certainly has picked up too as of late.
Oh....as for the Diva Dodgeball....can you say "fast forward"? I'm glad I was watching on tape, I really am...
Match 7: JBL vs Undertaker
Barely a wrestling move in sight, and about twenty minutes of it too The crowd were very quiet...don't think they cared much...neither did I to be honest The ended was exactly as we predicted too....Taker does perhaps earn a few props for bloodying up Bradshaw as much as he did though
Match 8: Beniot vs Orton
Randy Orton's inexperience showed a couple of times...in fact, at points he looked downright green...but I put it down to nerves given how the thing was gonna end. Speaking of the ending, I liked it...the finish came flat out from nowhere, which is something you don't see too often anymore...although I'd like to keep that sort of thing to a minimum, it does do good things for Randy Orton to pull out a victory like, as JR put it, "a bolt of lightning".
Randy's face turn also seems to have begun, after his handshake with Benoit....I'm still not happy about him getting the title here and now, but it was actually a pretty good match....that over the shoulder backbreaker slam thing was absolutely incredible...solid match, and I did think it was actually the best of the card.
Rating: ****1/4 (we'll have to see how well Randy does consistantly in the main event....there's nobody on RAW that could make you look better than Benoit and, while I don't think Randy needs any help, he still does make his fair share of mistakes in the ring).
Overall, it wasn't a bad card....in fact, with the exception of that ridiculous dodgeball rubbish, I think it was actually a very enjoyable show. Now, if only the WWE had put even the slightest bit of effort into promoting it, instead of this pathetic "diva search" rubbish
Match 1 - The Dudley Boyz vs. Rey Mysterio, Paul London and Billy Kidman
Just your average crowdwarmerupper, and with a very expected Spike win that would continue his heel push. They had some good spots, and I think managed to stop just short of being a meaningless spot fest (I'm still happy just seeing Paul London finally on tv
)Rating: *** (fair match to start off the card, and featuring the usual high flying high spots that get the crowd warmed up).
Match 2: Matt vs Kane
You know, I spent most of this one with my back to the tv...I expected it to get longer than it did, and I was surprised when it ended before I finished reading a post on the board
About the only thing I enjoyed about this match was the call Jerry the King Lawyler made at the start, about it being like something out of a bad soap opera How right he was...
Rating: ** (rather dull, and not ppv quality. I admit my veiw of the match may be slightly coloured by the absolutely dire storyline though)
Match 3: Booker vs Cena
Another one that ended with surprising speed, but it wasn't all that bad. I had hoped these guys would have gotten a little more time, but they'll probably hold off on the long match until they reach the fifth of the series (let's face it, there's no way they're gonna cut it off early). Since it was so short, it was really just the kinda match you'd see on Smackdown, but it wasn't bad...I'm gonna rate it a little higher than the opening, just because I've always prefered one on one matches.
I do worry a little that this series defeats the purpose of "delayed gratification". Although it should be tence to see what happens when Cena inevitably falls behind (I'm willing to bet Booker T gets the next two wins in a row, before Cena gets another, making the fifth for the tie breaker)
Rating: ***1/4
Match 4: Batista vs. Chris Jericho vs. Edge
I think Edge is starting to refind his niche in the ring...Jericho was in his usual zone, and Batista functioned very well as the strong arm of the match. Overall it wasn't the smoothest triple threat match I've ever seen, but I believe it could have been a lot worse. I did enjoy it more than the preceding matches.
It's also good to see Edge's heel transition has worked fine in the eyes of the crowd...although they might just have been booing him because he was wrestling Chris (then again...that's probably the method of turning him heel).
Rating: ***3/4
Match 5: Angle vs Eddie
You know...I was actually a little disapointed....Kurt seemed a little rusty to me. He did do a masterful job of working the leg at the start, but not only did he go on to completely abandon this for the middle third of the match, but there were times he didn't seem to know what he was going to do next...it was, however, still a very good, technically sound match. I noticed the crowd were very pro-Angle, probably because they were happy to finally see him in the ring again.
If I know Kurt, he'll wipe off that rust very quickly indeed.
Rating: **** - Falls very pale next to their last match though...
Match 6: Eugene vs HHH
This was actually pretty entertaining...I loved Eugine's spot where, while doing a ten punch combo on the turnbuckle and shouting out the numbers, he stopped at eight, counted out on his fingers to remember what came next, and then continued
I like Eugine still...but I do think the crowd were very against him here. It could be that the novelty of the gimmick is started to wear off. I can see the gimmick being needed to make a big change sometime in the near future.
Rating: ***1/2 - like I say, not bad...Triple H's work rate certainly has picked up too as of late.
Oh....as for the Diva Dodgeball....can you say "fast forward"?
I'm glad I was watching on tape, I really am...Match 7: JBL vs Undertaker
Barely a wrestling move in sight, and about twenty minutes of it too
The crowd were very quiet...don't think they cared much...neither did I to be honest The ended was exactly as we predicted too....Taker does perhaps earn a few props for bloodying up Bradshaw as much as he did though Match 8: Beniot vs Orton
Randy Orton's inexperience showed a couple of times...in fact, at points he looked downright green...but I put it down to nerves given how the thing was gonna end. Speaking of the ending, I liked it...the finish came flat out from nowhere, which is something you don't see too often anymore...although I'd like to keep that sort of thing to a minimum, it does do good things for Randy Orton to pull out a victory like, as JR put it, "a bolt of lightning".
Randy's face turn also seems to have begun, after his handshake with Benoit....I'm still not happy about him getting the title here and now, but it was actually a pretty good match....that over the shoulder backbreaker slam thing was absolutely incredible...solid match, and I did think it was actually the best of the card.
Rating: ****1/4 (we'll have to see how well Randy does consistantly in the main event....there's nobody on RAW that could make you look better than Benoit and, while I don't think Randy needs any help, he still does make his fair share of mistakes in the ring).
Overall, it wasn't a bad card....in fact, with the exception of that ridiculous dodgeball rubbish, I think it was actually a very enjoyable show. Now, if only the WWE had put even the slightest bit of effort into promoting it, instead of this pathetic "diva search" rubbish
I enjoyed it, however I think that the crowd were a little out of the zone, which took away from watching the matches somewhat....
And i think your being a little unfair to the undertaker bradshaw match, as I saw plenty of submission moves..... If i was watching the same match (although if i see ONE MORE PUNCH)....
I agree with you on the rest of the card
And i think your being a little unfair to the undertaker bradshaw match, as I saw plenty of submission moves..... If i was watching the same match (although if i see ONE MORE PUNCH)....
I agree with you on the rest of the card
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| as I saw plenty of submission moves |
To me, all the submission holds seemed more like rest holds than an actual legitimate attempt at storytelling in the ring....Undertaker does have a great grasp of match psychology (his dead man character does mean he very rarely uses it though), but neither he nor Bradshaw can work without someone to handle the physical side of the match (Taker hasn't had as good a match for YEARS as he did against Booker T)....
...since both of them were working on their own in this match, they generally stunk the place out
Thanks Sera and Talon for the PPV results. I agree that it was a little early for randy to win the belt but im not to dissapointed either.
Just a side note, Im going to a wrestling show this sunday (IWA), should be fun.
If anyone wants the results please let me know
Just a side note, Im going to a wrestling show this sunday (IWA), should be fun.
If anyone wants the results please let me know
By all means I'm actually going to another SWA show sometimes soon....might post up some of the stuff that impresses me
I'm actually going to another SWA show sometimes soon....might post up some of the stuff that impresses me
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| By all means I'm actually going to another SWA show sometimes soon....might post up some of the stuff that impresses me |
Ok sure. Ill post them up for you
Thats interesting about taker and bad matches because the last two matches i have seen him in where terrible.
Is he losing his touch or is it the writers? Dont know
But i think there is genuine heat between him and bradshaw
I'm interested to see how much further the HHH/Eugene storyline is going to go.
I'm also VERY interested to see how Orton's winning the belt is going to affect Evolution. Will HHH start to covet it, and start trying to undermine Orton to get it? Will Orton decide to "kill" two more legends- HHH and Ric Flair? There are possibilities here for interesting stories to be told.
I was sad to see Benoit lose the belt- especially in front of a Canadian crowd... but I'm sure he won't be down for too long.
The Kurt/Angle match wasn't too bad.
I was kinda disappointed in the Undertaker/JBL match. I much prefered JBL when he was part of APA with Farooq.
I'm also VERY interested to see how Orton's winning the belt is going to affect Evolution. Will HHH start to covet it, and start trying to undermine Orton to get it? Will Orton decide to "kill" two more legends- HHH and Ric Flair? There are possibilities here for interesting stories to be told.
I was sad to see Benoit lose the belt- especially in front of a Canadian crowd... but I'm sure he won't be down for too long.
The Kurt/Angle match wasn't too bad.
I was kinda disappointed in the Undertaker/JBL match. I much prefered JBL when he was part of APA with Farooq.
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| I'm also VERY interested to see how Orton's winning the belt is going to affect Evolution. Will HHH start to covet it, and start trying to undermine Orton to get it? Will Orton decide to "kill" two more legends- HHH and Ric Flair? There are possibilities here for interesting stories to be told. |
So am i Stewey. Should be alot of possibilitiesbut before he turns face i think a match with another legend, Shawn Michaels will be good for storyline purposes.
BTW are you anywhere near where the PPV was held?
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| Is he losing his touch or is it the writers? Dont know |
It's age....Taker was never a 'great' wrestler to start with anyway, he was a great character. He's just had to slow down, and tone down, in recent years so much that he has to be carried to anything even remotely like a decent match.
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| But i think there is genuine heat between him and bradshaw |
Probably; Taker's one of the real locker room leaders on Smackdown, and I can bet Bradshaw's infamous terrible backstage reputation has filtered up to him. If someone was stiffing up my buddies and getting undeserved title runs, I'd beat his ass too.
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| I'm also VERY interested to see how Orton's winning the belt is going to affect Evolution. |
Current plans are for him to remain champion until Mania, and lose the belt to the Triper.
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| I was kinda disappointed in the Undertaker/JBL match. I much prefered JBL when he was part of APA with Farooq. |
I never really liked the APA...but I do agree, Bradshaw was much much better in the tag team division. Having an experienced partner like Farooq to walk him through matches, and have him just being the big ugly guy that got the big impact finisher was really how they should have kept it
Seeing him in singles action is just horrible....he's not good enough to be a singles wrestler, let alone the champion....but oh well, as the wind blows I guess.
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| It's age....Taker was never a 'great' wrestler to start with anyway, he was a great character. He's just had to slow down, and tone down, in recent years so much that he has to be carried to anything even remotely like a decent match. |
Just to add to the discussion the best feuds Taker had was with Mick Foley and Bret Hart. It must take a great wrestler to make him llok good.
Just an observation
| QUOTE (Seraphina @ Aug 16 2004, 10:54 PM) |
| It's age....Taker was never a 'great' wrestler to start with anyway, he was a great character. He's just had to slow down, and tone down, in recent years so much that he has to be carried to anything even remotely like a decent match. |
Just to add to the discussion the best feuds Taker had was with Mick Foley and Bret Hart. It must take a great wrestler to make him look good.
Just an observation
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