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How many WWE creative team members does it take to screw up a storyline?
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How many WWE creative team members does it take to screw up a storyline?
Two? One to come up with it, and the other to pet Vince's ego?
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Mick Foley is currently in the midst of negotiating a storyline return to WWE.
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Mick Foley is currently in the midst of negotiating a storyline return to WWE.
Yay!...
Hopefully he isn't going to put over The Boogeyman
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Mick Foley is currently in the midst of negotiating a storyline return to WWE.
Yay!...
Hopefully he isn't going to put over The Boogeyman
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I don't care who Foley puts over. He's not supposed to win matches. He's supposed to take a beating and keep getting up. It doesn't matter if he puts the Boogeyman over or not 'cause either way it's gonna be one hell of a match. Foley can never be squashed in a two minute "match" anyway like Hassan was.
I do care. I don't want to see someone I consider a legend putting over Snitsky, or Heidenrich..... He should only put over the best young talent, or at least the best talent.... Not just anybody.
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On the WWE website features a video preview for the Muhammad Hassan vs. Undertaker match tomorrow night at the Great American Bash the "terrorism" angle is shown again. The video ends with the whole angle repeated only this time there is a voice singing in Arabic.
they just don't learn do they?
Maybe we should wire the writers up, and when they have a stupid idea... electric shock them and say "No....Bad".
On second thoughts they'd end up comatose...
Actually im not convinced thats a bad idea now...
On second thoughts they'd end up comatose...
Actually im not convinced thats a bad idea now...
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I do care. I don't want to see someone I consider a legend putting over Snitsky, or Heidenrich..... He should only put over the best young talent, or at least the best talent.... Not just anybody.
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I think that Mick Foley's style of wrestling allows him to have a good match against anyone. Even Snitsky or Heidenreich. And if Foley did have a match against either one of them I doubt it would be him doing the ass kicking. It's just not his style to simply walk over bigger guys. In fact the more I think of it the more I see it as a chance for someone like Snitsky or Heidenreich to have one half decent match in their lives. I'm sure it wouldn't make Foley look any weaker.
Legends are there to put oer stars..... Not to put over anyone..... Snitsky and heidenrich between then shouldn't beat the brooklyn Brawler on talent.....
If I watched either of them beat Foley.... I think id throw my tv in the bin...lol
Now losing to someone like..... Batista, or Cena... that i could see...they are pushed... but not to be beaten by nobodies... it just doesnt make business sense.
If I watched either of them beat Foley.... I think id throw my tv in the bin...lol
Now losing to someone like..... Batista, or Cena... that i could see...they are pushed... but not to be beaten by nobodies... it just doesnt make business sense.
WWE Great American Bash
Live from Buffalo, New York
World Title:
-Batista © vs. John Bradshaw Layfield
United States Title:
-Orlando Jordan © vs. Chris Benoit
WWE Tag-Team Titles:
-MNM © vs. Road Warrior Animal & Heidenreich
Singles Match:
-Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan
Singles Match:
-Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
Singles Match:
-Christian vs. Booker T
Six-Man Tag Match:
-bWo vs. The Mexicools
Bra & Panties Match:
-Melina vs. Torrie Wilson
Hmmm, equal number of bad and good matches on the card by the looks of things.
Live from Buffalo, New York
World Title:
-Batista © vs. John Bradshaw Layfield
United States Title:
-Orlando Jordan © vs. Chris Benoit
WWE Tag-Team Titles:
-MNM © vs. Road Warrior Animal & Heidenreich
Singles Match:
-Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan
Singles Match:
-Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
Singles Match:
-Christian vs. Booker T
Six-Man Tag Match:
-bWo vs. The Mexicools
Bra & Panties Match:
-Melina vs. Torrie Wilson
Hmmm, equal number of bad and good matches on the card by the looks of things.
Actually.... i think i'd find that PPV quite watchable.....
Of course, 
as I said, half the matches don't look that bad. Far cry from last years GAB where there wasn't a single good match on the card.
as I said, half the matches don't look that bad. Far cry from last years GAB where there wasn't a single good match on the card.
Are you trying to tell me Rey vs Chavo isn't a good match? lol
But yes... the rest stunk like a WWE script...
But yes... the rest stunk like a WWE script...
My esteemed friend Subtemperate is correct...Foley should not be putting over just anybody. To beat someone like Mick Foley or Hulk Hogan (as much as mentioning Hogan in the same sentance as a true legend like Mick Foley leaves a sour taste in my mouth) should never be given simply for the sake of giving someone "one decent match"...it should be there to give a lift to the careers of talented young guys, who'll be carrying the torch of the company for another ten, fifteen years.
Randy Orton beating Foley, for example, was good booking. As much as the smarks hate Randy, it cannot be denied that his clean defeat of Mick Foley (as clean as you can get in a street fight) cemented him as the legend killer, far more than his tainted win over Shawn Michaels did. It made him a legitimate contender as, as much as I think it was way too soon for him to climb to the title, that win made his going for it believable.
Hidethewristlock and the baby-killer are neither especially young or talented, and neither one of them is going to be in the company for very long. Although the WWE does have a habit of hiring many, many crap wrestlers as of late, it still has sense enough to trim the fat when their limited talents run their course (then, having not learned from its mistakes, it hires a few more to repeat the cycle). A win over Mick Foley would be wasted on them.
By the way, what on earth are you talking about Mick Foley spending the whole match getting his ass kicked? What on earth would be the point of that? Did you even watch his match with Randy? The very point was to show that Mick hadn't lost a step, and could still go at it with the best of them...the entire reason for the angle, and the success of it, was because Randy didn't beat Mick Foley the retired father of three - he beat Cactus Jack, the two-by-four weilding psychopath.
Having someone beat Mick Foley senseless, without Mick putting up as good as he got would not only defeat the purpose, it would be spitting on Mick Foley's legacy.
Randy Orton beating Foley, for example, was good booking. As much as the smarks hate Randy, it cannot be denied that his clean defeat of Mick Foley (as clean as you can get in a street fight) cemented him as the legend killer, far more than his tainted win over Shawn Michaels did. It made him a legitimate contender as, as much as I think it was way too soon for him to climb to the title, that win made his going for it believable.
Hidethewristlock and the baby-killer are neither especially young or talented, and neither one of them is going to be in the company for very long. Although the WWE does have a habit of hiring many, many crap wrestlers as of late, it still has sense enough to trim the fat when their limited talents run their course (then, having not learned from its mistakes, it hires a few more to repeat the cycle). A win over Mick Foley would be wasted on them.
By the way, what on earth are you talking about Mick Foley spending the whole match getting his ass kicked? What on earth would be the point of that? Did you even watch his match with Randy? The very point was to show that Mick hadn't lost a step, and could still go at it with the best of them...the entire reason for the angle, and the success of it, was because Randy didn't beat Mick Foley the retired father of three - he beat Cactus Jack, the two-by-four weilding psychopath.
Having someone beat Mick Foley senseless, without Mick putting up as good as he got would not only defeat the purpose, it would be spitting on Mick Foley's legacy.
I agree with Shady
Also agreed, I actually think they could bring in Mick to put over Carlito kinda like the did with Orton, who was IC champ at the time and Carlito is now. They could also bring Mick Foley as General Manager for Smackdown cause Teddy Long is kinda boring, he could have some good skits with some of the talent there...
*Remembers back to the days with him, Edge and Christian*
*Remembers back to the days with him, Edge and Christian*
Yeah those were funny
Wow just saw the GAB results and in my opinion some bad booking...
Hey, let's not put over a new young fresh tag team
Does Christian ever win
Yay, another 5 months of no title defenses
So we don't find out the secret, and Eddie hasn't beaten Rey, sounds to me like a big waste of time
Wow, what a lame ending
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Winners and new WWE Tag Team Champions, Heidenreich and Animal
Hey, let's not put over a new young fresh tag team
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Christian vs. Booker T Winner - Booker T
Does Christian ever win
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Winner and still United States Champion, Orlando Jordan
Yay, another 5 months of no title defenses
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Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio Winner - Rey Mysterio
So we don't find out the secret, and Eddie hasn't beaten Rey, sounds to me like a big waste of time
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Winner by disqualification, John Bradshaw Layfield but still World Heavyweight Champion, Batista
Wow, what a lame ending
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Winner by disqualification, John Bradshaw Layfield but still World Heavyweight Champion, Batista
....You know, I'm starting to think the WWE thinks that the fans have the memory of a goldfish. Or maybe it's just the bookers that do...this seems to be panning out the exact same way Bradshaw's fued with Eddie went.
The WWE writers just don't have any imagination whatsoever anymore. They seem incapable of coming up with anything fresh and new, and reuse the same angles over and over, even if they didn't really work the first time.
Screw it...seriously...just screw it. Doesn't TNA have a tv deal now?
In this case I agree with you, but I think the writing in at least imagination has been a bit better, with this Matt Hardy angle, the BWO angle with JBL and such.....
And I think what the writers will do is that JBL will have a rematch, like he did with Eddie, but it will put over Batista as Batista will beat him...... Anyhow i still think they could come up with better, so dont think im defending them...lol
And I think what the writers will do is that JBL will have a rematch, like he did with Eddie, but it will put over Batista as Batista will beat him...... Anyhow i still think they could come up with better, so dont think im defending them...lol
Maybe they will do something with Christian soon 'cause I've been hearing loads of Christian chants. I'm hoping the same thing will happen that made Cena a serious contender. Christian will just be too damn entertaining to crush week after week. I know I was rooting for him in the Smackdown championship battle royal.
And I see your point on Foley. Guess I wasn't thinking too hard.
And I see your point on Foley. Guess I wasn't thinking too hard.
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THIS AIN’T SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!
JOEY STYLES’ EXTREMELY HARDCORE PREMIERES ON FRIDAY SEPT. 9, AT 11:30 PM/ET/8:30 PM/PT ON EVENTS IN DEMAND PAY-PER-VIEW
New York, July 25—Professional Wrestling’s Most Energetic and Electric Play-by-Play Man, Joey Styles, returns to the wrestling airwaves with Joey Styles’ Extremely Hardcore debuting on Friday, September 9, at 11:30 PM/ET/8:30 PM/PT on Events In Demand Pay-Per-View. The program is priced is $9.95.
“All of the matches on JOEY STYLES’ EXTREMELY HARDCORE will give extreme wrestling fans the chance to experience the unique and over the top environment that was the signature of this genre when it was invented in the early nineties,” says Styles. “The talent that participates will both demonstrate the wrestling skills and the violence of extreme wrestling, and those wrestlers (NOT SPORTS ENTERTAINERS) will be announced shortly.”
The first live taping of Joey Styles’ Extremely Hardcore will be on Saturday Night, August 20. Bell time 8 pm at Earthlink Live, formerly known as Center Stage in Atlanta, GA. Tickets are available through Ticketmaster, www.ticketmaster.com.
No longer content to be solely an announcer, Joey Styles now steps out from behind the announcer's table to produce his own vision of anti-sports entertainment pro wrestling that can only be described as EXTREMELY HARDCORE!
Joey Styles was the only play-by-play announcer for the now defunct, ECW (EXTREME CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING) for its entire revolutionary existence from 1993 through 2001 on syndicated television, TNN (now Spike TV) and pay-per-view television. The name Joey Styles is synonymous with and as recognizable and marketable as ECW itself!
Styles made pay-per-view television history and professional wrestling history in 1997 when he became the only play-by-play announcer ever to host a live wrestling, boxing or mixed martial arts pay-per-view event alone, with no color commentator. He went on to host live pay-per-view events solo for many years.
Unlike all other ECW talents, Joey Styles chose to retire from the national professional wrestling scene when ECW filed for bankruptcy in 2001.
Last month, Joey Styles returned to live pay-per-view television to host ECW ONE NIGHT STAND for WWE which now owns the ECW trademarks and video library.
JOEY STYLES’ EXTREMELY HARDCORE PREMIERES ON FRIDAY SEPT. 9, AT 11:30 PM/ET/8:30 PM/PT ON EVENTS IN DEMAND PAY-PER-VIEW
New York, July 25—Professional Wrestling’s Most Energetic and Electric Play-by-Play Man, Joey Styles, returns to the wrestling airwaves with Joey Styles’ Extremely Hardcore debuting on Friday, September 9, at 11:30 PM/ET/8:30 PM/PT on Events In Demand Pay-Per-View. The program is priced is $9.95.
“All of the matches on JOEY STYLES’ EXTREMELY HARDCORE will give extreme wrestling fans the chance to experience the unique and over the top environment that was the signature of this genre when it was invented in the early nineties,” says Styles. “The talent that participates will both demonstrate the wrestling skills and the violence of extreme wrestling, and those wrestlers (NOT SPORTS ENTERTAINERS) will be announced shortly.”
The first live taping of Joey Styles’ Extremely Hardcore will be on Saturday Night, August 20. Bell time 8 pm at Earthlink Live, formerly known as Center Stage in Atlanta, GA. Tickets are available through Ticketmaster, www.ticketmaster.com.
No longer content to be solely an announcer, Joey Styles now steps out from behind the announcer's table to produce his own vision of anti-sports entertainment pro wrestling that can only be described as EXTREMELY HARDCORE!
Joey Styles was the only play-by-play announcer for the now defunct, ECW (EXTREME CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING) for its entire revolutionary existence from 1993 through 2001 on syndicated television, TNN (now Spike TV) and pay-per-view television. The name Joey Styles is synonymous with and as recognizable and marketable as ECW itself!
Styles made pay-per-view television history and professional wrestling history in 1997 when he became the only play-by-play announcer ever to host a live wrestling, boxing or mixed martial arts pay-per-view event alone, with no color commentator. He went on to host live pay-per-view events solo for many years.
Unlike all other ECW talents, Joey Styles chose to retire from the national professional wrestling scene when ECW filed for bankruptcy in 2001.
Last month, Joey Styles returned to live pay-per-view television to host ECW ONE NIGHT STAND for WWE which now owns the ECW trademarks and video library.
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Torrie Wilson is in the WWE doghouse for numerous reasons and some in the company claim she probably would have been released alongside Billy Kidman if it weren't for her being on the poster of the Great American Bash PPV.
CM Punk is expected to head to Louisville later this week to start with WWE's developmental territory.
Edge vs. Kane is the local advertised match for RAW so it looks like they wont be doing a dark match after RAW as the Edge/Kane match is a stretcher match for the live show.
CM Punk is expected to head to Louisville later this week to start with WWE's developmental territory.
Edge vs. Kane is the local advertised match for RAW so it looks like they wont be doing a dark match after RAW as the Edge/Kane match is a stretcher match for the live show.
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As you may or may not be aware, the ''music'' which accompanied the footage of the 'terrorist attack' was in fact the Muslim call to prayer. This is almost certain to raise complaints from some Arab/Muslim organizations, and people who found the depiction of Hassan as an Islamic extremist distasteful.
It looks like the WWE wanted a swan song of controversy before killing off Hassan, and decided to go with the Muslim fanatic/terrorist angle which they had previously denied using. All in all, a stupid ending to what was a promising heel character.
It looks like the WWE wanted a swan song of controversy before killing off Hassan, and decided to go with the Muslim fanatic/terrorist angle which they had previously denied using. All in all, a stupid ending to what was a promising heel character.
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For those who missed the PPV last night, the Hassan character was put to rest but not before doing yet another terrorist angle. Hassan was given the Last Ride through a hole that was in the stage. They did a camera angle that showed him bleeding from the back of the head.
It is rumored that Hassan will be sent to OVW to repackage his character.
It is rumored that Hassan will be sent to OVW to repackage his character.
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Maybe they will do something with Christian soon 'cause I've been hearing loads of Christian chants. I'm hoping the same thing will happen that made Cena a serious contender. Christian will just be too damn entertaining to crush week after week. I know I was rooting for him in the Smackdown championship battle royal.
Yeah, Christian was getting cheered over Booker T in there match
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Torrie Wilson is in the WWE doghouse for numerous reasons and some in the company claim she probably would have been released alongside Billy Kidman if it weren't for her being on the poster of the Great American Bash PPV.
She doesn't do anything anyways just fire her
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CM Punk is expected to head to Louisville later this week to start with WWE's developmental territory.
Finally, bring in some new TALENT
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For those who missed the PPV last night, the Hassan character was put to rest but not before doing yet another terrorist angle. Hassan was given the Last Ride through a hole that was in the stage. They did a camera angle that showed him bleeding from the back of the head.
It is rumored that Hassan will be sent to OVW to repackage his character.
It is rumored that Hassan will be sent to OVW to repackage his character.
God he's probably going to come back with generic tights and music, and the WWE will act like he was never there before
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As you may or may not be aware, the ''music'' which accompanied the footage of the 'terrorist attack' was in fact the Muslim call to prayer. This is almost certain to raise complaints from some Arab/Muslim organizations, and people who found the depiction of Hassan as an Islamic extremist distasteful.
It looks like the WWE wanted a swan song of controversy before killing off Hassan, and decided to go with the Muslim fanatic/terrorist angle which they had previously denied using. All in all, a stupid ending to what was a promising heel character.
It looks like the WWE wanted a swan song of controversy before killing off Hassan, and decided to go with the Muslim fanatic/terrorist angle which they had previously denied using. All in all, a stupid ending to what was a promising heel character.
ive long stopped watchin WWE in protest , how much bigotry can you get away with in america before its unnaceptable??
I just wish we could see more stars in wrestling again. Most of the younger wrestlers are not very good on the mic in my opinion.
I am in fact unlike the other guys here in that I am actually entertained by Hulk Hogan. I do see what you mean Serpent. The gimmicky guys of old were entertaining as hell in my opinion but I also appreciate wrestling talent. Lesnar and Foley are returning and I believe there's something for everyone in that combination.
Hogan was good on the mic? 
Since when?
Since when?
I hate gimmicy gimmics. What ever happened to 'no gimmic needed' where the story was you wanted the championship?
And lots of guys are good on the mic, such as Captain Charisma and Cena.
And lots of guys are good on the mic, such as Captain Charisma and Cena.
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ive long stopped watchin WWE in protest , how much bigotry can you get away with in america before its unnaceptable??
While I hate the storyline just as much as anybody, I would like you to explain how this is in fact bigotry?
Bigotry is intolerance of someone who is different to you or has different opinions to you....... Isn't it more an act of bigotry to remove someone from a show because of the fact you can associate him with a group?
The idea, choice and act was completely stupid.... but intolerent?
Why isn't it over?
Well...for those who kow the raw results.... It seems Angle finally lost that gold medal challenge.....
That was funny, Angle lost his medal. It's not like he actually lost it. xD
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Well...for those who kow the raw results.... It seems Angle finally lost that gold medal challenge.....
Yup and what that was a pretty bad RAW I must say, Angle should have gotten beat by an up and comer, not an already established star. But I guess it could be a good feud just cause of Angle.
*yawns* So who'd he lose it to?
I must say, I think it's probably better this way...Angle was being wasted doing nothing night after night but beating up nobodies. That angle has been tried over and over again, and it just doesn't work...the only reason anyone even cared this time is because Kurt was the one doing it.
Kurt can work wonders for elevating a young star's career by having their debut match with them....look at John Cena, who Kurt made look like a million bucks, even though he beat him. Spanky too, although he got pinned in four minutes and fortyeight seconds, was realy put over in that match.
But a bunch of nobodies who we'll never see again? What's the point.
I must say, I think it's probably better this way...Angle was being wasted doing nothing night after night but beating up nobodies. That angle has been tried over and over again, and it just doesn't work...the only reason anyone even cared this time is because Kurt was the one doing it.
Kurt can work wonders for elevating a young star's career by having their debut match with them....look at John Cena, who Kurt made look like a million bucks, even though he beat him. Spanky too, although he got pinned in four minutes and fortyeight seconds, was realy put over in that match.
But a bunch of nobodies who we'll never see again? What's the point.
Twas Eugene he lost it too, as the time ran out....
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While I hate the storyline just as much as anybody, I would like you to explain how this is in fact bigotry?
Bigotry is intolerance of someone who is different to you or has different opinions to you....... Isn't it more an act of bigotry to remove someone from a show because of the fact you can associate him with a group?
The idea, choice and act was completely stupid.... but intolerent?
Bigotry is intolerance of someone who is different to you or has different opinions to you....... Isn't it more an act of bigotry to remove someone from a show because of the fact you can associate him with a group?
The idea, choice and act was completely stupid.... but intolerent?
Not really. I agree with Win. If they're going to have a terrorist character then fine, for all the bad taste, have one. But having an Arab-American character who day in day put claims to be an representative of the Arab-American population come down to the ring and talk about how much he hates America and then bring in terrorist bodyguards is insane. They could get away with it for the Nation of Dominantion during the Black Panther era because there are so many blacks everybody got they were not representative of all blacks, but people are more wary of Islam because of all its negative aspects, so its easy for them to buy (especially with all the terrorism) that this heel character does represent Arab-Americans and they all really do hate America.
We have to remember, you and I know fine well his real name is Mark whatever and he's a third generation Arab-American would is happy to be American, but the bloody couch fans haven't got enough sense to know Goldberg, Hogan and Ultimate Warrior are not good wrestlers, what chance have they got of remembering Hassan is a fictionous character in this current climate.
Personally I think Hassan was an attempt to reuse the Iron Shiek gimmic in an age were they could get heat from using the current mistrust of Arabs, just as the Nation of Domination was an attempt to get heat that was around because of the black supremist groups who where rife in that time. I just think it was a bad call and went too far.
Hassan should have continued using the old 'I'm not being given my chance because I'm an ethnic minority gimmic' like so many others have, he shouldn't have started swearing off at the west, and he certainly shouldn't have turned terrorist which is what got his character thrown off air, not as you say, Win and others were intolerent of the group he was representing.
And just in case anyone questions my motives, I'm not Islamic. In fact I hold it in utter contempt as I do all religions. So I have no reason to have bias feelings in relation to how Islam is being portrayed etc or other reasons that the Arab Associations are moaning about the character for.
I dont think I disagreed with that did I? I was asking him to explain how associating a character with a minority can be taken as bigotry, or intolerence.....
I never said what they did wasn't stupid, or insane...... I just said it wasn't a move of "intolerence"...... More of a move of poor taste, and lack of judgement.
Could it create or prey on intolerence? Yes.... but the act itself isn't what I would call bigotry....
I never said what they did wasn't stupid, or insane...... I just said it wasn't a move of "intolerence"...... More of a move of poor taste, and lack of judgement.
Could it create or prey on intolerence? Yes.... but the act itself isn't what I would call bigotry....
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- SmackDown! workers have stated that Christian is very aware that the proverbial rug has been pulled from under him by WWE.
- Christian was said to be very happy a few months back when it seemed WWE would be pushing him as a main-eventer, however his feelings have now changed and while he isn't being a bad employee over it, he is said to be upset at how things have turned out.
- Christian was of course cleanly pinned in his first match on SmackDown! and lost to Booker T at the Great American Bash this past Sunday when the 5-time WCW champion had no momentum going into the match.
- On SmackDown! worker stated that Christian is just "one of them now" after realizing his push is going nowhere
- Christian was said to be very happy a few months back when it seemed WWE would be pushing him as a main-eventer, however his feelings have now changed and while he isn't being a bad employee over it, he is said to be upset at how things have turned out.
- Christian was of course cleanly pinned in his first match on SmackDown! and lost to Booker T at the Great American Bash this past Sunday when the 5-time WCW champion had no momentum going into the match.
- On SmackDown! worker stated that Christian is just "one of them now" after realizing his push is going nowhere
Wow thats just sad
Typical WWE. They hype Christain vs Cena for months. Then put them on different shows. They give him enough time for the fans to see how good he is, then put him in squash matches. The fans demand to see him, the WWE puts him in Dark Matches.
Meanwhile the people who the fans hate get forced down our throats.
Meanwhile the people who the fans hate get forced down our throats.
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Bigotry is intolerance of someone who is different to you or has different opinions to you....... Isn't it more an act of bigotry to remove someone from a show because of the fact you can associate him with a group?
sorry ive taking so long to get back mate.
bigotry can take many forms..
bigoted behaviour can come in the form of influencing behaviour. IE: causing intolernace.
The WWE is a VERY influential body, making a character so high profile then villifying him in such a manner , in the current environment , when, lets be honest the average WWE couchpotato fan in america is no einstein , they are in fact influecing negative and bigoted behaviour towards muslims and arabs in general.
the WWE have a responsibility on a global level to not use the situation teh world faces and shamlessley milk and create distrust and hatred.
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I am in fact unlike the other guys here in that I am actually entertained by Hulk Hogan. I do see what you mean Serpent. The gimmicky guys of old were entertaining as hell in my opinion but I also appreciate wrestling talent. Lesnar and Foley are returning and I believe there's something for everyone in that combination.
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I very much agree with you Eskimo. Remember Doink the evil clown? The idea of an evil clown in wrestling was very appealing. (Remeber when he made the children cry?) The Nature Boy Ric Flair was also one of the best heels ever in my opinion.
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The WWE is a VERY influential body
Indeed, it made an entire generation think Hogan was talented
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Hogan was good on the mic? Since when?
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I guess he is not for everybody.
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The crowd last night wished he was there. ( It was the only reason I watched.)
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The crowd last night wished he was there.
Like I said.
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The crowd last night wished he was there.
Like I said.
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It was good that the crowd was not dead for a change.
They shouldn't have been dead because that was one of the best promos cut by HBK in a long time. It was so true, by the end of it they were cheering HBK when he is supposed to be the heel.
Hogan was trained in that old school "If you talk REALLY loud at the camera, it wont matter what you say....." Out of those around him, he wasn't awful for the 80's.... However wrestling has passed him by, and he can't hold a candle to the stars of today in that respect.... Hold the candle? Hes not even allowed to purchase one at the shop....
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