Here I'm going to assume that the Hell in a Cell match is going to take up most of the air-time for the PPV, since most of the rest of the card looks like a Smackdown type card. Not much else of interest to me except for the Shelton Benjamin- Randy Orton match..
Of course I may just be jaded since I'm extremely sick of the Benoit, Edge tag-team already. And I find Kane to be a more psychotic version of Bradshaw..A good Hoss, but not really main-event material anymore..

Here's my problem with Edge. He's always out with an injury. Always. He get's a large push, gets hugely over with the fans, and just when you think it's leading somewhere good and your interest piques, he's out again..
It's difficult to be one of the big players in the company if you're not even there 7 months out of every twelve(The Rock excluded ).
Also, since he was so good back in his E and C days, it's hard to warm up to his new intense and serious character..

True, he's insanely injury prone

I'm afraid I wasn't paying enough attention to Smackdown last week, so I have a question. Was it held in a Canadian city? I'm wondering because I noticed Rene Dupree getting a big pop from the crowd and I've never seen that before. Could it be that the majority of the fans are looking past his stereotypical gimmick and appreciating the fact that he's got real talent?
Now if only he'd stop with that silly side to side dance..

They were touring Que'bec. That why on Raw when La Resistance fought Beniot/Edge the croud were behind the former. Beniot and Edge might also be Canadian, however Rene and Grenei (or whatever his name is) are actually from Que'bec, rather than France as is claimed.

BREAKING WRESTLING NEWS!

My source has confirmed with me two things which are greatly exciting. First, Brock Lesnar will be coming back to the WWE, which will be great since....yes the second thing is that John Bradshaw Layfield has been fired because of the Nazi thing. He's also been fired from CNBC.

...And they lived happily ever after..Thanks Saucy! That really brightened up this whole thread!!

so...he was fired from CNBC??? but not from WWE???

thats stupid...

Well, as you know...there is no such thing as bad publicity

I think Nazism is the exception

we'll find out soon enough...

Talon's predictions for Bad Blood 14/06/04

Hell In A Cell: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels - HHH, it makes him main heel again to go on to fight Beniot in a one on one later.

World Champion Chris Benoit vs. Kane - Beniot, lets face it, Kane is only in there cause they couldn't think of anyone else.

World Tag Team Champions La Resistance vs. Chris Benoit & Edge - La Resistance, just got it, and its likely they may use the loss to turn Edge heel.

Intercontinental Champion Randy Orton vs. Shelton Benjamin - Benjamin, to continue his push, and plus Orton has had it for how long?

Women's Champion Victoria vs. Gail Kim vs. Lita vs. Trish Stratus - Trish or Victoria... you know, I really don't care

Chris Jericho vs. Tyson Tomko - Tomko, as his first official match they are likely to put him over

Eugene vs. Jonathan Coachman - Eugene, currently undefeated, they'd waste in on having him put over a ring announcer.

Hi im new to this site and i may have a few thoughts on bradshaw.
What he did in Germany was dumb but it isnt the first time someone has tried to get cheap heat. If the writers or management had instructed him to do the salute than they are as guilty as he is.
Id like to hear your thoughts.

Ive just gone back and read doomgirls post. I tent to agree with her about bradshaw. I think hes a good wrestler in a difficult position. Being that there arent a lot of main event heels on smackdown he is doing a good job and hes over with the crowd. Maybe a solution is to move Bastia over to smackdown and put kane in evolution. Hes wasted on Raw.

Hi talon and thankyo for the invitation. Ill enjoy discussing wrestling.
Just remember Hulk hogan got through his entire career with only three wrestling moves

I personally can't stand Bradshaw, and like my wrestling to be in the style of Beniot or Angle. But I'm actually glad you like Bradshaw, as much as I prefer the purist slant, since Doomgirl left its been pretty much just us purists. But what we need it lots of views, purists, couch fans, cutting edge, hardkore, garbage, crash tv and MMA ... but maybe we'll leave the Backyard wrestlers out ... nah, they're welcome too!

And together we shall site around our computers and trade info and views, and although we may not agree, we shall be together furthering the future of wrestling!

Talon i like the style of Bret Hart, Benoit and Angle and different views are healthy for a debate.
BTW being form OZ we dont get PPVS so is bad blood on today?
Just wondering

Batista Oh sorry for the spelling mistake
It was unintentional
And for hogan i always hated him, id rather sit and watch the paint dry than put myself through the misery of watching his matches

Oh thankyou for any information regarding the PPV

TY Talon and i agree he did draw. But so did the ultimate warrior didnt he? Oh well ill stop ranting lol
Whats the deal with Kane and Lita? We dont get Raw either unfortunately

Kane is stalking Lita. He made her say she'll do somethig for him weeks ago when he pummeled Hardy in the ring until she came out and 'Stop! Kane! Stop! The answers yes. Appartenly they have since then she's done whatever she said yes too, but he's still stalking her and ctaching her, kissing her in the ring etc We have still not been told what it was she said yes to, Sera thinks it was whether he should grow his eyebrows back, me... well with Micheal Hayes writing the plots it could be anything...

So Kane's stalking Lita, beating up her Boyfriend, and now going to fight Beniot.

And as for Ultimate Warrior.... he was worse than Hogan.

Speaking of Batista, he's main eventing Heat with Maven at the mo.

Sounds like another sleazy storyline with lita. I hope they pull the plug on that one. Or at least get it over with quickly. Lita doesnt deserve it.
As for ultimate warrior i put him on the same level as hogan and luger. Id rather watch the bastion booger lol
BTW what did you think of the mick foley / randy orton match? Havent seen it yet

Another squash with maven involved. Why dont they turn him into a cruserweight and move him to smackdown?

Ok thanks Ill check in with you later and let you watch it. (wish it was me)
And thankyou for welcoming me

Segment 1

Tag Team Title Match
Beniot / Edge vs La Resistance

La resitance come to ring, sing Canadian national anthem, get booed. Edge comes down, Beniot comes down. Match Starts.
Descent match, pretty good by Edge's standards, however nothing really hasn't been seen before. Think a lot of the movesets you usually see in a match an your there. Edge was in it for his team for most of the match, but Beniot came in at the end and took on La Restance 2 on 1 with a volley of suplexs, including a brutal looking German. Beniot finished by getting one of them (can anyone yet tell La Resistance appart?) in a cripper, whilst Edge speared the othger one from breaking out. However, La Resistance were saved from tapping from Kane charging to the ring, chokeslamming both Beniot and Edge, then smashing Beniot against the steel steps and getting La Resistance Disqualified, therefore keeping the title... I don't know if that means my prediction was right or not .

Match length: about 12 minutes.
Rating: 3 - solid match, nothing special, seen before, more Beniot could have made it better.

Segment 2

Eric is praising Coach backstage and insulting Eugene, they here some crying, turn around and Eugene is watching. Eric goes up to Eugene and somehow convinces him that he is still the good Uncle.

Segment 3

Jericho vs Tomko

Not sure what to call this... Tomko was dominating the match movewise putting in the most offensive, however Jericho was causing more damage by hidding in corners and driving out of the way to let Tomko hurt himself on them. Overall Tomko is not a good wrestler, he's a brawler, and not a good one. Jericho did very little, I think he got an injury at a house show which might explain this. Jericho finally wins with a Lionsault... but for a Jericho match... that was poor.
And although I was wrong about Tomko winning, I'm glad Jericho didn't do the job.

Length: about 8 minutes
Rating: 2.5 - insanely poor, Chris, what happened?! To be fair I think he was injured.


Segment 4

Orton promo. Ortons backstage bragging about his long title run, but gets offended by the fans booing him, so he goes into the arena through crowd shouting about how great he is.. and stopping to wink at a blonde he passed . When he gets into the ring he shouts "Greatness has entered the ring! You may bow a will!" Which I thought was funny.

Benjemen then comes out and demands they have their match early, so the bell it rung.

Segment 5

Intercontinental Championship
Shelton Benjeman vs Randy Orton (champion)
Wasn't so much the technical masterpeice I was looking for. I few submissions here, a few suplexes there, I lot of going around outside the ring hitting each other. Crowd seemed on Randy's side the momment the match started, but only became moderately interested after Flair appeared at ringside, they didn't even cheer a spot by Randy from top top. By midway it seemed to be very old school with headlocks and sleepers. Buggest pops, started when they went for a momentary slugg fest and for a flying shoulder by Benjumen. Benjumin finally gets a suplex, pins, but Flair puts Ortons foot on the rop. So, Shelton goes out graps Flair, throws him into the ring and takes them both on. Funny part happened, when Shenton put the Figure-4 on Flair, then whilst still doing it, rolls up Rnady for a failed pin. Ends with Orton jumping on Shelton from the turnbuckle, rolling up, holding the tights, for the win.

Length: 20 minutes, first decent match of the night
Rating: 3.5, or there abouts. It was good, better than the Tag Team Match, however it just lacked the technical aspect to make it 4 or above. It had no chain wrestling, a little mat wrestling, a little brawl, a little spot fest. A lot of it seemed Hardschool. Sera'll be a better judge than me of its score, but although I liked it by the second half something just didn't click.



Segment 6

Matt and Lita making out in the Back, Bishoff and security turn up and throw Matt out the building. Could we be sensing a Kane involvement in the Woman's match.

Segment 7

Woman's Championship

Trish vs Gail Kim vs Lita vs Victoria (Champion)

I'll admit my back was turned for most of this match . Gail Kim has some new submission she tried on Victoria. Lots of suplexs, lots of punches, lots of clotheslines. Lasted less than 5 minutes. Typical female match
Trish wins over Lita, by rollup. I said it would be Trish , my first correct prediction

Length: 5 minutes
Rating: 2.5 - Not a bad female match... but it was pretty much *blink*.. whoa! Its over?!

I'm kinda worried at this point that we're an hour into it and all but three matches are over


Segment 8

Eugene w/ William Regal vs Jonathan Coachman

Starts off with a 5 min promo video of the feud. Regal has been banned from Ringside as Bishoff no longer trusts him and so has to stay by the Titatron. Eugene is over. Eugene offers Coach a handhskae, which Coach accepts then tries to crush Eugene's hand, Eugene doesn't feel it but by aciendent crushs Coach's hand. After the first few moves Eugene rolls into a ball and refuses to come out of it, until Coach llets his guard down and then jumps up with a failed pin. Eugene knocks Coach to all four then gets down himself and pretends their dogs, before jumpng on Coach like a horse. Eugene then goes to shake hands with the crowd and play with a teddy the girl Orton liked gives him. They then fo into the ring were Eugene proceeds to do the most stupid moves I have ever seen on Coach, including preending to be a dog peeing on Coach's head. All this time the crowd are cheering. Some girls come down to the ring 5 minutees into it with cookiesm Eugene approaches shyly, gives some cookies to a fan . Coach pulls Eugene back into the ring, hits his head, annoys Eugene who begins to destory him. Garison Cade appears and destroys the teddy, Eugene beats him off before finishing the match of with Rock Bottom, then the People's Elbow, and pin to the biggest pop of the night. Then for good messure he Stunners both Cade and Coach. Then starts dancing in the ring while Regal attempts to lead him out of the ring.

Length: 15 minutes
Rating: For wrestling 2 since very little was actually done, for humour 5. That was an utterly rediculous match, but it was the best so far given the quality of the others. On another item, he's the firt person to carry Coach to a good match


Segment 9

Heavyweight Championship
Chris Beniot (champion) vs Kane
Starts off with tons of clops and punches from Beniot, but of course Kane barely feels them and starts tossing Beniot around the ring. Now I'm going to be honest, although Beniot is my favourite wrestler, I'm not even watching this, it seems to be - Beniot does all his best moves, Kane kick out of them... thats assuming Beniot is given enough time to crawl over the ring to get the pin to begin with. Beniot wins through not getting an crossface, so rolling up for a cradle pin.

Length: 15 minutes
Rating: 3.5 - Beniot was in it. Beniot good. Beniot can carry a mop to 5 star match, but even Beniot can't carry Kane to a 4 star match... . Okay, nothing aweful, Beniot saved it from that, and there were some nice parts, but it was mainly all Beniot. Kane was there, he did a driving clothesline, he did a chokeslam, he did his Clotheslines, but he did no real moves other than that, and he spoiled Beniot's attacks by no sells (although I know if he had, it would have destroyed his character). I guess I’m obviously going to by bias in favour of a technical match, and the fans in the audience seemed to like it, so I guess it was to the tastes of coach fans, so remember that when noting my mark.

Pherrett's gunna love reading these when I give him a go on the computer

he's my boyfriend

Talon thanks for posting BB. Its a bit strange that Benoit didnt win with the crossface but at least he won. Now i guess they are going to start the Edge/ Benoit program.

Segment 10

Todd Grisham interviews Beniot, who says Kane was tough, but now he knows Beniot ‘is for REAL!’. Nice new catchphrase, but I miss the old ‘Prove me wrong!’

Segment 11

Hell in the Cell

HBK vs HHH

Okay, this is a Hell in the Cell. So my usual formula for ratting it based on quality of technical wrestling… but lets face it the HITC is not the match for technical wrestling. Its uses brawling style with plenty of hardcore and garbage elements thrown in. As such I will be reviewing as a brawling match as opposed to Pure wrestling. Started off with a slug fest. After the first fight they started tossing each other around the ring. HBK hits a Thesz press on HHH, then hits him while he’s on the floor then throws him over the ropes. They storm around the outside of the ring and HHH gets his head struck against the cage several times and begins to bleed. HH then gets a chair from under the ring, takes it in and sets it up and makes to give HBK a backbreaker on it. However Michaels breaks out and beats HHH away. HHH attacks him with the chair but HBK blocks it. They start fighting outside the ring again, using the steal posts as weapons. After weakening HBK he tries the backbreaker onto the chair again and succeeds, but fails to get a pin.
They keep on attacking each other and HHH nearly gets a Pedigree. They get back outside and HBk tries to do a piledriver on the steel steps, but HHH counters it into a backdrop. HHH rolls HBK back into the ring, goes for the chair and hits HBK with it. The he goes and gets the Stairs, however HBK kicks HHH in the stomach and so he drops the stairs. HBK then goes for a superkick, but misses, only to have HHH hit him with the stairs. HHH hits him again with the stairs and goes for the pinb, but HBK kicks out.
HBK counters another pedigree into a DDT, before hitting HHH with it twice, then pinning him. HHH kicks out, so HBK goes outside and brings a ladder into the ring and starts hitting HH with it across the chest, then puts it into the corner and starts Irish whipping HHH into it, who then fell out the ring.
The ladder not being enough, HHH decides to put a table in the wing, however after a fight it ends up HHH on the table. HBK crawls up the ladder then drives of put HHH throw the table with an elbow- The ‘Holy Sh*t’ chants start.
HHH then gets up only for HBK to go for the super kick, but HH drops to his knees and its HBK with a low blow. HHH then gives HBK a pedigree and pins him, but HBK kicks out. The then stand up and HBK hits the super kick on HHH but collapses himself. They end up standing up and HHH goes for another Pedigree and pins HBK for the win. Evolution then come down and carry HHH away and the crowd give HBK a ovation.


Length: 47 minutes
Rating: 3.7 I'm not sure. Lots of fighting, lots of weapons, lots of blood, lots of spot fests, and the audience liked it so it a good brawl. If your a couch fan it might be worth a 4. It unfortunatly did not have anyone leave the cage, nor anyone go throw the roof, buts it participants did seem to get mixed up between a HITC and a TLC match, so no shortage of weapons and pops. I think there are better HITCs, however I think barring Armagedon this was the longest and was an enjoyable Hardkore fest.


And that is Talon's guide to Raw's Bad Blood 2004

Good work Talon TY. It sounds like a 7/10 PPV.

Thanks Talon. Po' folk like me who can't afford a PPV appreciate you and your sister posting the results for us..

so do you think that the hbk/hhh feud is over? Or is hbk finally going to turn heel and start a program with Benoit

More likely HHH or Edge is going to fued with Beniot. Aparently after this Hardy/Kane thing, Kane is to turn face

Kane as a face? I guess Vince decided that because it didn't work out well the last 99 times they tried it that the law of averages would be on his side this time..

I'm not sure if its Vince or the writting team's idea. Either way, these people pushed Mark Hendry, they'll try anything.

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