Booker T
Jul 24 2004, 10:09 AM
yo i just finished read about all the past summerslam matches and damn almost all of them are more interesting than ne matches i have seen on past ppv lately
Talon
Jul 24 2004, 12:32 PM
I like Randy and think he'll be a good future World Champion, but not yet. I don't think he wont destroy the title, but he hasn't been built up for main event level, plus he and Beniot and no history of a fued, they's no story to make put some backing to the match and make Randy seem credible. If Randy has not yet been promoted as a main eventer then winning the title will only hard Beniot and kill off more fans who still associate him with Upper-mid card like JBL did on SD (not that I am comparing Randy to JBL).
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Vince McMahon was apparently said to be very disappointed that Smackdown scored a higher rating than Raw recently. He's not trying to sabotage the show, but because he's in negotiations with Viacom regarding a new contract for the Monday night show, he would prefer to have Raw be his highest rated show right now.
McMahon’s concern is that Viacom officials will use Smackdown's higher rating to question whether they are being stuck with an inferior product due to the recently ratings score the show got over Raw.
"That's why some of the lineups for the Raw shows have been pay-per-view caliber," explained one source. |
Thats all very well Vince, but it still doesn't change that an up hyped Iron Match has been proven to be a turn off after 30 minutes in the past. This is Vince's problem, he has a memory of about a week.
Seraphina
Jul 24 2004, 02:11 PM
Well, what I just said about Randy aside.....championship material he certainly is not: He's way, way, WAY too green to pick up the world title, especially from our man Benoit
In fairness to him, Randy does have a rather impressive win streak, and he's got a lot of big names on the back of that t-shirt (which I thought was very clever

), and losing the intercontinental title didn't lose him any credibility, since Edge cheated...
BUT...
He's still a rookie, he still makes his fair share of mistakes in the ring, and he still needs a little more time spent in that ring, and being properly built up, before I'd even consider seeing the belt on him. As much as I think Randy's a future star....the emphasis there is on "future".
If Benoit does lose the title to him, I'd be very disappointed...I thought Benoit as champion was going to be a golden age for RAW, but what's happened instead?
- He's played second fiddle to Triple H and Shawn Michaels, two workers that he's vastly superior to (yes, EVEN Shawn Michaels)
- He's been relegated to the tag team division, carrying Edge, and appearing in the middle of the card.
- He's fueded with Kane, a worker who isn't half as over as the head office seem to think he is, and with all the wrestling skills of a tomato.
- He was used as a side-character to build up the fued between Triple H and Eugine.
Since becoming champ, despite being the best pure wrestler in the world today, Benoit was been treated with nothing short of contempt by the booking team, just like Eddie before him. I want to see him getting his dues before they even make plans for him to drop the belt.
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 24 2004, 06:58 PM
Well who else is a heel and ready for a title shot.....theres HHH but we've seen that before, Kane who was well over due for a title shot but has become the big red jobber and fueding with Matt Hardy, Randy Orton too young no cred for a title shot, Batista still not ready yet, the only heel that has enough experiance and cred too go for the title I think is Ric Flair ya he's saggy and old but he can make a fued and probly put on a decent match with Beniot with Beniot keeping the belt
Seraphina
Jul 24 2004, 07:05 PM
Oh, make no mistake, I'd love to see a match between Randy and Benoit. I think that has the potential to make some good tv....but I certainly don't want to see Benoit dropping the title to him
As for Ric....Benoit's way too physical; the one time I saw them wrestle Ric was struggling after ten minutes, let alone putting on a thirty minute main event. I'm firmly against seeing Flair wrestle in singles competition...especially as a main storyline...he's great as a mamanger, but way too past his hayday to keep it in the ring.
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 24 2004, 07:40 PM
Well theres still the chance that Randy Orton will get more cheers and chants than Chris Beniot which is not good for a face champion unless they work it in the right way
Also
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Today's Duluth (MN) News Tribune contains a story regarding Brock Lesnar’s attempt to get in to professional football after leaving WWE.
As it stands, no NFL team have officially signed Lesnar to a contract and with camps starting in the next week or so, it does not appear likely that any team will do so. The article reports that the Minnesota Vikings are set to give him a second workout next week, but that it's unlikely the team with sign Lesnar in-time before camp starts.
It looks as though Lesnar’s best hope now is to get signed to a team's practice squad, which is sort of like the NFL's version of OVW. If this was the case, Lesnar would not be able to play or dress for any of the teams games, however will be given chances to learn the team’s system by having time to practice with the guys.
So, at this point it looks as though Lesnar’s decision to leave WWE and play professional football has backfired, as it looks very unlikely he will be signing with a team for this season. |
*Doing his impression of Nelson from the simpsons*Haw! Haw!
Seraphina
Jul 24 2004, 07:49 PM
Hey, maybe we'll get lucky and he'll come back to offer an alternative to Bradshaw that won't make us want to hang ourselves
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 24 2004, 08:00 PM
If he does come back do you think they'll send him to smackdown?
The Krow
Jul 24 2004, 08:19 PM
hmm... I'm not sure if they'd put him on RAW or Smackdown...all I know, is that I want a Lesnar Football Jersey
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 24 2004, 08:27 PM
Actually I'd like see Y2J on Smackdown since he's doing nothing on RAW, a fued with him, Eddie, Kurt, Cena, or even Booker T would be kool to see
Talon
Jul 24 2004, 10:06 PM
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| At the Smackdown! brand house shows this weekend they are running a John Bradshaw Layfield vs. John Cena match for the WWE Title. Normally WWE uses house shows to test out possible future matchups, so expect John Cena to be put in the WWE Title picture sometime this year, possibly even after Summerslam. |
Please, I don't care who beats JBL just so long as its soon
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| WWE has been putting serious consideration into possibly turning Edge heel soon. There has been talk going around for a while now, and there was a time where management wanted to have Edge as a heel feuding with Chris Benoit. |
Edge in the main event... dear god
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The Big Show is expected to return to the ring by the time WWE returns to Australia later next month. There is a lot of internal hope within WWE that the returns of Kurt Angle and Big Show will make a difference in the ratings and overall Smackdown! attendance.
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Welcome back Show
Lesner! Ignore the WM fans and please come back!
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 25 2004, 06:23 AM
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| The current plan for new General Manager of Smackdown is Teddy Long |

.......no,dear god no, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Seraphina
Jul 25 2004, 03:33 PM
lol, I think he'd be great for it

Just so long as he got rid of the lame gimmick. I always thought Long was a great, really old school manager, he just really needed a better gimmick than: "Lemmie tell ya somethin' playa. I'm gonna back my man Mark Henry, because he's black. Ya feelin' me playa? Dumb white boy."
The Krow
Jul 25 2004, 06:44 PM
Lemme holla at'cha playa...
that was great...
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 25 2004, 07:39 PM
Ya but isn't he a heel, and the heel GM has been done to death, and pretty stale. Get somebody thats a face, and the fans actually care about..thats not Teddy Long...so far
Seraphina
Jul 25 2004, 08:11 PM
True...but I think the main reason people seemed to react so little was because of that lame gimmick...you are right about the heel GM thing though. I think it would be nice to have a face GM to set Smackdown apart from RAW, much like they did way back at the start.
On a sidenote, now that Kurt's back, and the Big Show's returning, and we've got a prospect of Kurt vs Eddie on the horizon, and Booker T isn't in any plots that sound like a script from Sunset Beach, I'm feeling much much better for Smackdown than I was
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 25 2004, 08:15 PM
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Christian and The Big Show will not be returning in time for the upcoming Summerslam PPV. However, we have been informed that Big Show will be returning in September.
Staying on the topic of Summerslam, Christian and Shelton Benjamin will be returning to WWE before Summerslam. |
......wait what? when does Christian return
snuffypuffer
Jul 25 2004, 08:35 PM
You know, Sera, I just cannot understand why you don't like Sunset Beach. YOu know, the whole plot with James and the butler, that is tremendous television, I tell you whut.
saucy
Jul 26 2004, 01:05 AM
YOu just have to wonder why Raw would book a main event match of Edge and Randy Orton for the IC title and be baffled on why Smackdown had better ratings. Benoit is the champ and a damn good one but Edge gets treated better. Nobody really likes Edge but the WWE treats him like he's the Rock.
Well, it looks like my man Taker will be getting the belt pretty soon. You can really tell when the fans don't give a damn about someone when they don't even get a crowd reaction but the WWE still wanted to give JBL the title, but I think they gave it to him because they wanted to eventually give Taker the belt while at the same time keeping either him or Eddie face. If it was Taker vs. Eddie, one of them would most likely turn heel.
60 minute Iron Man match on Raw. That's half the damn show. I can barely stay awake that long but have the same match going on? It's predictable; evolution will get involved in the last ten minutes or so and screw up Benoit's game and it will look like Triple H is gonna win, but wait, Benoit comes back and quickly gets the win, taking advantage of Triple H and Benoit is declared a hero because he once again went against all odds. We might get really surprised if Shawn Michaels comes back, screws Benoit out of the title and Michaels joins evolution.
Talon
Jul 26 2004, 01:13 AM
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| Christian and The Big Show will not be returning in time for the upcoming Summerslam PPV. However, we have been informed that Big Show will be returning in September. |
Ack
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| Staying on the topic of Summerslam, Christian and Shelton Benjamin will be returning to WWE before Summerslam. |
Yeah!
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| As a reminder, if you wish to see the entire Ironman match tomorrow night between World Champion Chris Benoit and Triple H be sure to tune into Raw from the start as the match is scheduled first on the card. |

Who wants to bet ratings drop after the first 30 mins, then peak again after an hour?
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| The Dudleys have been scolded by management recently for spending too much time yelling at the crowd as heels. They had went back to a lot of the stuff they could get away with in ECW, though obviously using much cleaner language. |
I'm sorry, I thought thats what they were suppost to be?
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| Gail Kim needed one of her relatively new implants repaired due to leakage, which is why she has been out of action. |
Whoopdy-doo
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| Randy Orton is being groomed for a program with Triple H, which will most likely take place at Wrestlemania 21. |
Cool, a program' which is what he should have been now and winning the title to get him over as a main event.
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Even though he will definitely wrestle Kurt Angle at Summerslam, Eddie Guerrero will miss a few weeks of ring-time (or, at least, intense ring-time) to nurse his minor hamstring tear. His resting, however, is precautionary and not mandatory, so he technically could get out and wrestle at anytime.
Guerrero also is reportedly suffering from anxiety and stress. He was frequently second-guessing himself and his ability, wondering whether or not he was doing a good job. The time off will do him well.
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It can't help that the WWE are saying sales are down because he's was the champ
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 26 2004, 01:47 AM
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| 60 minute Iron Man match on Raw. That's half the damn show. I can barely stay awake that long but have the same match going on? It's predictable; evolution will get involved in the last ten minutes or so and screw up Benoit's game and it will look like Triple H is gonna win, but wait, Benoit comes back and quickly gets the win, taking advantage of Triple H and Benoit is declared a hero because he once again went against all odds. We might get really surprised if Shawn Michaels comes back, screws Benoit out of the title and Michaels joins evolution. |
Or Euegene gets involved, causes Benoit to win and setting up the match between Eugene and HHH that is rumoured to happen at SS
Talon
Jul 26 2004, 01:51 AM
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| Or Euegene gets involved, causes Benoit to win and setting up the match between Eugene and HHH that is rumoured to happen at SS |
That makes sense
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 26 2004, 02:11 AM
It does make sense, anywho...
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Hello everyone, and welcome to yet another edition of Random Rantings. First off, a big thanks to Rift for putting my “Vince Hates Immigrants” column up on the side board last week. I certainly hope that WWE management changes their stance on the treatment of guys who have come over from other promotions.
However, the “immigrant” situation isn’t the only pet peeve that I have with Vince McMahon and WWE management. There is another policy that they use that also pisses me off to no end: favoring bigger wrestlers over medium-sized ones and cruiserweights.
It seems like you can’t go one minute on WWE programming without seeing a mediocre -- or just plain awful -- wrestler get chance/push just because he’s big. Just look at some the big stars that were either given jobs or pushes -- despite weak in wrestling ability -- because they’re 6’5 + and/or 300 lbs +: A-Train, Batista, Jon Heidenreich, Mark Henry, Mordecai, Rosey, Tyson Tomko -- even Brock Lesnar at the beginning of his career. Imagine how much we would be entertained if even half of those pushes had gone the way of smaller, more technical wrestlers. Imagine if talented guys like Lance Storm, The Hurricane, London, Kidman, etc. had been allowed to leave the lower card. Some may say that these men are too boring, gimmicky, and highflying, respectively, but I’d choose that over yet another meaningless A-Train or Mark Henry push any day.
Now, big men definitely have their place in the wrestling business. And I totally disagree with “smarks” who blindly hate anyone who is bigger; criticism should be reserved for larger wrestlers who cannot perform in the ring. The Undertaker, Big Show and Kane are just some of the names that -- while bigger -- can put on good matches more times than not. Obviously we need variety in the size of competitors; I don’t want to see only cruiserweights compete, but the WWE seems to overload its rosters with larger stars, who squash smaller (and more talented) wrestlers to get them over.
And worse yet, many times the bigger stars don’t need to be put over! For example, did Brock Lesnar really need to destroy Paul London and Brian Kendrick just to show us that he was a bad ass? All Brock needed to do was beat a top-tier guy cleanly to show that he was one of the best. In fact, Brock’s clean Hell In A Cell win over The Undertaker did more to show he was “big time” than the combined beatings of Kendrick, London and Zack Gowen ever did... or will do.
Vince really needs to show some of these mid-sized and cruiserweights that their extremely hard work is appreciated; and it’s not being done by feeding them to all these green performers, who are getting shots because they’re “monsters.” It’s perfectly acceptable that a little guy like Rey Mysterio isn’t going to physically dominate a wrestling match against someone like Jon Heidenreich, but what’s the problem with having Rey -- or even Heidenreich -- win a tough, hard-fought match? The fans will accept Heidenreich more if he wins a tough and half-decent match against Rey, than if he just kills Rey in five minutes. This, more balanced, approach will also add some excitement to Raw and Smackdown, as the fans won’t know who’s going to win the match (since, right now, the formula is that the small guys win a tough match, while the big guys win in five minute squashes).
But, to end on a positive note, things may be turning around slightly: in the last few months, WWE has put both of their top titles on guys under 6’0 and 240 lbs -- Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero. Also, the super-talented Paul London and Billy Kidman have now been given a decent tag team push. These instances may suggest that Vince is finally giving mid-sized and cruiserweight athletes the shots that they deserve... and the shots that the fans want them to have. |
I thought this was a good article, but I think Batista and Rosey have some potential
Talon
Jul 26 2004, 03:11 AM
I think for big guys Ape-Train and Big Show arn't... that bad
Anyway, its cause Vince has something for big men, and JR loves to push anyone who's heavier than him so he doesn't feel that bad about his own weight.
snuffypuffer
Jul 26 2004, 04:29 AM
| QUOTE (Talon S. @ Jul 26 2004, 02:13 AM) |
It can't help that the WWE are saying sales are down because he's was the champ |
Actually, it seemed to me that he was one of the most popular champs in awhile, certainly more popular than Lesnar. Just, his heels weren't anything spectacular.
Seraphina
Jul 26 2004, 04:48 AM
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| Actually, it seemed to me that he was one of the most popular champs in awhile, certainly more popular than Lesnar. Just, his heels weren't anything spectacular. |
Oh, we know that well enough...you only have to put Eddie in any arena in the world, hear thousands of voices chanting his name, and know that blaming him for the low buy rates for the ppvs in lunacy....but the WWE can draw the weirdest conclusions sometimes.
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 26 2004, 05:01 AM
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| you only have to put Eddie in any arena in the world, hear thousands of voices chanting his name |
I've also heard that while being champion he's gotten booed at some house shows which wasn't intended, I really hope that people don't say JBL is the cause of higher ratings on smackdown.
Talon
Jul 26 2004, 01:46 PM
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| John Heidenreich, upon being brought back to WWE, will be feuding with The Undertaker. Many people backstage are beginning to question why Heidenreich is being brought back so soon after his last run on RAW, which was nothing more than subpar. |
That doesn't matter, cause he's biiiig
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Edge's autobiography, titled "Adam Copeland on Edge," will be released on 11/2. Edge put together the book while he was out of action last year recovering from his neck fusion surgery.
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Who cares
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| Actually, it seemed to me that he was one of the most popular champs in awhile, certainly more popular than Lesnar. Just, his heels weren't anything spectacular. |
Oh we all know, its Vince who doesn't
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 26 2004, 08:02 PM
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There was a lot of talk backstage over the weekend amongst workers on Smackdown! about the fact that Rob Van Dam has been "de-pushed" since being traded over to the Smackdown! brand from RAW. RVD has been wrestling on Velocity for two straight weeks. There was some feeling that maybe Van Dam hasn't re-signed with the company, but from what we've been told he has signed a new deal and for whatever reason, WWE is just not pushing him or even featuring him in any way at this point in time.
Summerslam is just a few weeks away, and that is not such a good sign for Rob Van Dam due to the fact that spots on the PPV are going to be difficult to obtain since it will be a split-brand show. RVD gets some of the best reactions from WWE fans, and it's amazing to see that WWE can't find an effective way to use him or push him into a role that would get him on the PPV and make the company some money. We'll see what happens. |
I'd much rather see RVD in the main event picture than JBL, I hoped they would turn him heel so he could have had a fued with Eddie, or even keep them both face and see what happens but nope he's on Velocity now
Talon
Jul 26 2004, 10:00 PM
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| I'd much rather see RVD in the main event picture than JBL, I hoped they would turn him heel so he could have had a fued with Eddie, or even keep them both face and see what happens but nope he's on Velocity now |
Don't be silly, they can't use him cause his career was made in ECW

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| Mike Bucci (Nova) tried out his new gimmick at the house shows this weekend. He plays a Richard Simmons exercise guru type gimmick which should debut on RAW shortly. |
Yeah, cause we all know how well gay gimmics get people over

Rico was the only one to get it to work, and it took him 3 years to do so.
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| Eugene is scheduled for RAW this week and will likely be involved during the main event of the Iron Man match. This looks to be another case of two guys wrestling for nearly 60 minutes only to have the finish dampened by ref bumps and run-ins. |
Looks like your right Atticus... and spoiler ahead;
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| At yesterday's RAW house show in West Virginia, Batista made a run-in after a ref bump, but Eugene appeared to counter the run-in. Chris Benoit then got the victory with the Crossface on HHH in the match. Usually WWE does "test-runs" at house shows for things that they plan to do in the future, so this could be something along the lines of what we will see tonight on RAW. Though as always, it is not certain so don't take it for anything more than what it is. |
End spoiler
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| The role for WWE film "The Marine" was originally written for Steve Austin in order to make him a movie character in WWE films. His spot in the movie was dropped when he and Vince McMahon could not come to terms on Austin's contract, and they then decided to give the role to John Cena. |
Cena in a movie
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| HHH is in the process of working on a fitness and bodybuilding book. |
Well, he certainly knows about that
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| WWE wants to do a PPV event from the Tokyo Dome in Tokyo, Japan. Dean Malenko is in charge of booking arenas for WWE in Japan and there has been some talk of this for quite a while now. The arena holds over 50,000 people. |
Cool
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| Jakks Pacific is currently in the process of producing the first Eugene WWE action figure. There is also a special boxed set called "WWEAST" which will feature the first ever action figures of Funaki, Akio, and Sakoda, and is available exclusively through RingsideCollectibles.com. There is also a Japanese edition of an Ultimo Dragon figure, where he is wearing a red outfit and red shoulderpads. The figure will be available for online ordering very soon. |
Cool
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 27 2004, 07:04 AM
Just finished watching RAW so I'll post my opinion on it, if you haven't seen RAW and want to be surprised don't read.....
First, is there any way we can send the diva search to OVW because it sucks. I mean its a waste of time, and gotten 0 crowd response, unless you count the booing, boring, and waste of time chants.That being said I hope Christy wins
The battle royal was ok, and I was hoping that the reports were wrong, and Y2J would win but they were right and Randy Orton won, but Y2J elminated Edge hmmmm I smell a Y2J vs Edge fued with Edges heel turn that could be around the corner, which might be good I guess. I also think the showdowns with Batista and Kane are always good and the fans get into it but Batista is so big the he makes Kane look tiny
As for the Iron Man it was great, on a side note it's awesome too see the sharpshooter busted out every once in awhile by Benoit.I did also call the Euegene interference but he did a stunner to Ric Flair which was very funny, and he got major pops which was good too. So heres how I see RAW so far for SS...Benoit vs Orton, HHH vs Euegene, maybe Edge vs Y2J...with a Christian interference because of the Y2J and Christian history and maybe the reformation of the E&C.
Seraphina
Jul 27 2004, 07:10 AM
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| with a Christian interference because of the Y2J and Christian history and maybe the reformation of the E&C. |
Now THERE'S something I hadn't thought of...and it would actually be good for Edge given his floundering singles performances lately. I do think it would be a bit of a step back for Christian though, so maybe if it wasn't a permanant arrangment, just a sort of background alliance, with the focus still on singles competition.
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| I mean its a waste of time, and gotten 0 crowd response, unless you count the booing, boring, and waste of time chants |
I agree....I honestly don't know why they're wasting air time with it...last week, when the Coach started the voting by saying: "It's the time we've all been waiting for!" my only reaction was: "You mean there's gonna be some wrestling!?"....I was disapointed
Question about the iron man match....how was the crowd? 60 minutes is a long time to ask a crowd to sit through an unhyped match, and I'm just wondering if they stayed involved in the match all the way? Also, did Triple H start to lag behind after the thirty minute mark?
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 27 2004, 07:52 AM
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| Question about the iron man match....how was the crowd? 60 minutes is a long time to ask a crowd to sit through an unhyped match, and I'm just wondering if they stayed involved in the match all the way? Also, did Triple H start to lag behind after the thirty minute mark? |
The crowd was pretty silent, they seemed kinda creepy really focused from what I saw, but I didn't hear any boring chants, the crowd went wild whenever HHH taped out though, also there seemed to be a HHH fan club in the crowd because whenever HHH got a pinfall there was a small "HHH" chant, ya HHH started getting tired and needed some breaks but he did better than I though, except he's more smashmouth than anything, but Chris Beniot can go I heard he has the most insane cardio workouts in the industry
jizzames
Jul 27 2004, 05:43 PM
E&C, man i'd love to see it again. i've always loved the "i'm so arrogant everybody came here to see me" gimmick, especially on christian because he's so great with it (y2j also comes to mind). he and edge used to feed off each other, great chemistry. so i suppose if i have to see edge every monday and christian not in a title picture, then we might as well see them together.
saucy
Jul 27 2004, 07:53 PM
Hey, everything happened just like I predicted it, but I haven't seen Raw in two weeks and didn't know much about the Eugene/Evolution fued.
Anakim
Jul 27 2004, 08:59 PM
I havent watched sence evolution beat the crap out of eugene. Has there been any retaliation yet other than regals'
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 27 2004, 09:11 PM
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| Hey, everything happened just like I predicted it, but I haven't seen Raw in two weeks and didn't know much about the Eugene/Evolution fued. |
huh....you said
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| It's predictable; evolution will get involved in the last ten minutes or so and screw up Benoit's game and it will look like Triple H is gonna win, but wait, Benoit comes back and quickly gets the win, taking advantage of Triple H and Benoit is declared a hero because he once again went against all odds. We might get really surprised if Shawn Michaels comes back, screws Benoit out of the title and Michaels joins evolution. |
neither of those actually happend so how did u predict it?
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| I havent watched sence evolution beat the crap out of eugene. Has there been any retaliation yet other than regals' |
Yeah in the 60 min Iron Man match Euegene came out and gave a stunner to Ric Flair, drop kicked Batista, Rock Bottom to HHH then hit HHH with a chair which gave Beniot the win.
Also about Edge and Christian I was think if Evolution breaks up, there could be the new heel stable "The Peep Patrol" with Edge,Christian,Tomko,and Trish just a thought...
saucy
Jul 27 2004, 09:18 PM
What do you mean nothing happened how I predicted it? I said that probably with ten minutes left to go evolution will come out. That happened. I said evolution would throw Benoit off his game. That happened. I said it would look like Triple H was gonna win. That happened. I said, "But wait, Benoit comes back and to everybody's surprise gets the win against all odds and is declared a hero." That happened. The only thing I didn't predict was Eugene and the Shawn Michaels thing was a joke, so yes, I pretty much called it down the line.
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 27 2004, 09:31 PM
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| What do you mean nothing happened how I predicted it? I said that probably with ten minutes left to go evolution will come out. That happened. I said evolution would throw Benoit off his game. That happened. I said it would look like Triple H was gonna win. That happened. I said, "But wait, Benoit comes back and to everybody's surprise gets the win against all odds and is declared a hero." That happened. The only thing I didn't predict was Eugene and the Shawn Michaels thing was a joke, so yes, I pretty much called it down the line. |
ok, just wondering
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 27 2004, 10:03 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any ideas what the worst finisher there was/is?
I think some candidates would be
The Pounce-Monty Brown(Pretty much just a shoulder block)
FU-John Cena(doesn't look affective anymore)
The Worm-Scotty 2 Hotty(what more can I say)
Hogans Leg Drop-Hulk Hogan(it's a leg drop

)
thats all I can think of for now,add to the list if u have any
Talon
Jul 27 2004, 10:14 PM
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team.
Today, the story broke in the Pioneer Press that former WWE champion Brock Lesnar has signed a $230,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, his hometown team.
After months of official comments from everyone from the players to the head coach of the Vikings making it sound as if they had little to no interest in Lesnar, he is now officially part of the team. |
.... d*mn
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Just about everybody within WWE is very high on Randy Orton, and they have much good to say about him. Orton is a guy that "gets" the wrestling business, and he is a star already in the eyes of the fans as well as other workers within the company. It is also felt by many that Orton will be the next top-level guy in WWE. Randy has also displayed a great attitude backstage, and is said to get along with all of the right people.
The decision for Randy Orton to win the battle royal on RAW for the rights to face Chris Benoit at Summerslam was based a lot on Randy's performances against Edge as of late. The company feels that he has been doing an excellent job in and out of the ring, and that he deserves a title shot.
We continue to hear that WWE wants to put the title on Orton, though that is not locked in at the moment. It is still a strong possibility, but at this point the lineup and details concerning the show are still being finalized. |
oh dear god... PUSH HIM BEFORE YOU PUT THE TITLE ON HIM!
Talon
Jul 28 2004, 04:09 AM
Smackdown 6 info;
Undertaker, WWE Legend Andre the Giant will be a selectable character for Smackdown vs. Raw. They have also announced a confirmed roster (which is subject to change)
Current Wrestlers
A-Train
D-Von Dudley
Ric Flair
Batista
Eddie Guerrero
Rikishi
The Big Show
Garrison Cade
Rob Van Dam
Booker T
John Cena
Scotty 2 Hotty
Bubba Ray Dudley
Kane
Shawn Michaels
Charlie Haas
Kurt Angle
Shelton Benjamin
Chavo Guerrero
Mark Jindrak
Stacy Kiebler
Chris Benoit
Matt Hardy
Tajiri
Chris Jericho
Randy Orton
Torrie Wilson
Christian
Rey Mysterio
Triple H
Chuck Palumbo
Rhyno
Trish Stratus
Legends
Andre the Giant
Old-School Kane
Old-School Undertaker
Expect several "cuts" to be made to the final roster before the release date (namely Rikishi, who is no longer with the company).
As you can see by the list above, only three legends have been confirmed up to this point, but several more "big name" legends are expected to be announced in coming weeks.
One major difference in Smackdown vs. Raw is that although it promises much a much impressive list of legends in this installment in the SD series, legends will not be playable in season mode.
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Seraphina
Jul 28 2004, 05:45 AM
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| I was wondering if anyone has any ideas what the worst finisher there was/is? |
You pose an interesting question...
First of all, the People's Elbow - it looks so stupid
"The Chick Kick" - how we're supposed to believe that could pin anyone, I have no idea. Stacy Keibler had a more convincing kick.
The Ally-oop - one of a billion and one failed finishers the Big Show tried to make, that just looked crap.
The Raven effect - I do, and always have hated Raven....but his finisher just made me mad. A man with so little wrestling ability and/or variation in his style that the best he can come up with for a finisher is a DDT...a move every wrestler on the planet has already kicked out of, yet we're somehow supposed to believe his is different.
The World's Strongest slam - while I think the name is kind of clever, the move is a massive kick in the balls to match psychology. What's the point of making a basic slam his finisher, when it's the only move he does anyway? What stops him doing it everytime he gets a hold of his opponent, and ending the match there and then? Just very bad match psychology...at least the bearhug made sense.
If you've ever seen Vicera's finish, it was a friggin' standing splash. Now, I know the guy weighed 512lbs, but there's so much more he could have done with that weight to look devastating (assuming, of course, he could get his arms high enough to lift anyone).
There are no shortage of lame finishers....heck, the Clothesline from hell is being used by the bloody champion right now....but don't worry, because there are plenty of nice ones too
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 28 2004, 06:02 AM
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| The Ally-oop - one of a billion and one failed finishers the Big Show tried to make, that just looked crap. |
I hated that move, but the one out of the billion I thought was kinda neat was the one were he grabed I think in a chokeslam position and swung his leg around into a leg drop,if anybody remembers that move I forget what it was called
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| The Raven effect - I do, and always have hated Raven....but his finisher just made me mad. A man with so little wrestling ability and/or variation in his style that the best he can come up with for a finisher is a DDT...a move every wrestler on the planet has already kicked out of, yet we're somehow supposed to believe his is different. |
I don't like Raven as a wrestler, but I like his character, cause I've always been a fan of the more darker brooding characters. I think a DDT can be an effective finisher if he add something to it. Like one time I saw Paul London do a DDT finisher except he hooked his leg with the other guys which I thought made it look better or Lita as crappy as a wrestler she is I like that kinda snap DDT
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| The World's Strongest slam - while I think the name is kind of clever, the move is a massive kick in the balls to match psychology. What's the point of making a basic slam his finisher, when it's the only move he does anyway? What stops him doing it everytime he gets a hold of his opponent, and ending the match there and then? Just very bad match psychology...at least the bearhug made sense. |
lol.You would think "The Worlds Strongest Man" would do something a little more challenge than something even the smaller guys could do.
Seraphina
Jul 28 2004, 06:30 AM
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| I hated that move, but the one out of the billion I thought was kinda neat was the one were he grabed I think in a chokeslam position and swung his leg around into a leg drop,if anybody remembers that move I forget what it was called |
I can't remember what it was called....but I hate it purely for the fact that, in my e-fed, it was my finisher for all of two months before the Big Show started using it. My variation was a bulldogneckbreaker (essentially a running neckbreaker that twists out of a bulldog) into a falling leg lariate....he just does the neckbreaker and leg lariate part, but still...meh! He stole it!
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 28 2004, 06:38 AM
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| I can't remember what it was called....but I hate it purely for the fact that, in my e-fed, it was my finisher for all of two months before the Big Show started using it. My variation was a bulldogneckbreaker (essentially a running neckbreaker that twists out of a bulldog) into a falling leg lariate....he just does the neckbreaker and leg lariate part, but still...meh! He stole it! |
lol ssssssure he did
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if he did, he said on late night with Conan O'Brien(one of my fav shows) that he watches old and new tapes of wrestlers and steals their moves, which I thought was pretty funny
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 28 2004, 08:00 AM
oh ya I really don't like the dudley dog as a finisher because it just really doesn't look effective and the scissor kick because how long can you stay down and wait from a kick to tha gut
Seraphina
Jul 28 2004, 03:45 PM
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| Actually I wouldn't be surprised if he did, he said on late night with Conan O'Brien(one of my fav shows) that he watches old and new tapes of wrestlers and steals their moves, which I thought was pretty funny |
Yeah, he stole if from Christopher Daniels....I, having never seen Christopher Daniels wrestle at the time of creating the move, can simply claim to have had the same idea

Although it was very frustrating to think someone might think I actually took the move from the Show....not that I have any problem with good 'ol Paul, but I do think if I was gonna emulate someone in the ring, it wouldn't be him
In fairness to the Dudley Dog...it was invented by Spike to put people through tables, and because there's a limit to the moves someone his size can do (and when's the last time you saw him get a pin anyway?

). It's a shame about Spike...when he first arrived as Smackdown, he actually showed a side of himself we haven't seen since ECW, and was pulling out some really great wrestling matches....then they decided to turn him back into "The Bump Machine" for Bradshaw
But say what you will about the Dudley Dog (or, to call it by its real name, the Acid Drop), at least it's better than the Stratusfaction
AtticusBlueprint
Jul 28 2004, 07:01 PM
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| at least it's better than the Stratusfaction |
lol, most anything is
Seraphina
Jul 28 2004, 07:52 PM
Except the Stratusphere

The worst Frankensteiner in wrestling.
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