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Transhumanism
Hi,

I am seeking ways of being able to meet aliens face to face and going with them on their spaceship and taking a ride in outer space. If anyone has any info., I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Transhumanism

Oh, by the way, I would also like to meet ghosts, spirits, deities, angels, and the like. I would appreciate any info. on this as well regarding how I can meet such entities.
Universal Absurdity
i would suggest first proving the existence of anything you'd like to meet.

in the proucess of finding proof, if successful, you will be more than likely to meet whatever it is you are looking for.

good luck with your hunt
Transhumanism
QUOTE (UniversalAbsurdity @ May 4 2004, 03:30 AM)
i would suggest first proving the existence of anything you'd like to meet.

in the proucess of finding proof, if successful, you will be more than likely to meet whatever it is you are looking for.

good luck with your hunt

The very definition of the paranormal is that which cannot be scientifically proven, meaning if these things do indeed exist, the evidence is not accessable to man, or even understood by man because we humans are too stupid.
Scorpius
I haven't heard of anyone who visited aliens for holiday, but I haven't heard from everyone here on this forum, whistling2.gif

Ghosts? Try the ouija board, however you may just end up talking to yourself. You may be "overriding" the spirits messages, which is why it is better to play with it with more than yourself. As in a group of people. You may be thinking of an answer and the answer you thought of may be spelt out.

If you want to speak to your subconscious try a pendulum. Asking it questions and all. However you'd have figure out which is yes, no, i don't know, and (maybe, possibly) is. Think of yes if it goes either clockwise, counterclockwise, back and forth, or side to side, then which ever it says that'll be the answer to the questions you ask it in your sessions. This procedure would follow with the answers no, i don't know, and possibly. It should change directions for each different answer, because it has for me.
Universal Absurdity
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The very definition of the paranormal is that which cannot be scientifically proven, meaning if these things do indeed exist, the evidence is not accessable to man, or even understood by man because we humans are too stupid.


Then why the reason for posting this thread? unless of corse your original post had a hint of sarcasm.
Transhumanism
QUOTE (UniversalAbsurdity @ May 4 2004, 05:18 AM)
Then why the reason for posting this thread? unless of corse your original post had a hint of sarcasm.

Because I want to have a major paranormal experience.
NoName
I have gone on many a spaceship for holiday. Oh, and take a tip from me: if you want to avoid a spectacle, don't take a poltergiest out to lunch.
Kellalor
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I live in central California and am very poor. I am seeking affordable ways of being able to meet aliens face to face and going with them on their spaceship and taking a ride in outer space. If anyone has any info., I would greatly appreciate it.


Well, first you have to be really drunk...


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Seraphina
You know, a recent lagar advert did actually make me wonder...

Why do you never hear about great academics being kidnapped by aliens? Why don't any nobel pize winners get zipped up into space? World leaders (although I pity the alien ship that beams up Bush...they did, after all, come to Earth looking for intelligent life) huh.gif You'd think that an alien species, wanting to learn about our people, would therefore be trying to make contract with the best and brightest in order to determine where we stand as a society.

So why is it that 90% of the people who claim to be abducted by aliens are very average people, who live in the country, drive a tractor, probably have drinking problems, and grow their own opium.

....actually...I think I just answered my own question, didn't I huh.gif
Transhumanism
Edit; removed redundant quote

And why is it that aliens only abduct White people? Did you see that Chris Rock comedy show in which he was referring to the abduction stories of "those crazy White people"? So, I guess that since I am non-White, they won't abduct me at all.
The Raven
This is ridiculous. It's like saying you walk out your frontdoor in the morning to greet angels, see Jesus mowing your lawn, 'God' tending to your garden, Lucifer cooking burgers on the Grillmaster, and have demons washing dishes. Utterly ridiculous!

Here is a huge tip to get abducted by aliens, it has worked for me many times:

Step 1: Make a cheesy looking hat out of tin foil.
Step 2: Bring several glowsticks into a large field
Step 3: Put on the hat
Step 4: Scream into the sky saying "ABDUCT ME, I AM READY, COME DOWN AND GET ME ALIENS!", waving the glowsticks as you scream.
Final Step: Be nice as the aliens land and bring you into their FLYING SAUCER OF DOOM, and be calm as they stick long sharp foreign objects into your body and under your skin. Have a good vacation.

You can't just expect Angels to come to you, or happen at all. Alot of the population goes their whole life without this. Ghosts? Go take pictures around your house, Ouija, ETC. You can hope to get atleast something. Want to meet a deity? Summon a demon and play catch, I'm sure he will love it. wink2.gif

Have fun with your new friends whistling2.gif

P.S. Don't beleive everything CHRIS ROCK says
Chris_com28
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And why is it that aliens only abduct White people?

I'm guessing you haven't heard of the Hill abduction case. It was one of the first abduction cases and the Grays even showed them their star system that wasn't discovered by humans till 6 years later!
I read something about a sequence of 10 flashing lights from left to right. This is supposed to summon the Grays. If you're serious about this then please be very serious and don't blame me for what happens, if anything happens at all.
Transhumanism
QUOTE (The Raven @ May 4 2004, 10:44 PM)
This is ridiculous.

Yes, I am sure it sounds rediculous to the mainstream. But that does not change the fact that I am interested in meeting ghosts, angels, deities, spirits, aliens, and the like.
Transhumanism
Once again, let's refrain from quoting the entire text of messages in your replies when they appear only one or two posts above yours, no one here has that short an attention span.

Are there any evidence of the Hill case? do you have a link please?

Also, can you please give me more info. on the flashing lights to meet the Grays? Do you have a link with the exact procedures and where I should go to do it? I am dead serious and will accept any consequences. You see, my life right now is absolutely boring, and since I live in poverty, death would be a welcome for me. I would rather have 10 minutes of exitement of meeting aliens, right before they kill me. I am going to die anyway, might as well die doing something exiting. thanks.
50Cent
WHo in the right mind would like to meet all those paranormal crazy things? Oh that's right you are not in the right state of mind. laugh.gif People like you scare me for real! w00t.gif
Transhumanism
QUOTE (Transhumanism @ May 5 2004, 05:03 AM)
Once again, let's refrain from quoting the entire text of messages in your replies when they appear only one or two posts above yours, no one here has that short an attention span.


Okey, sorry, I didn't see the first time you mentioned this.
Transhumanism
QUOTE (50Cent @ May 5 2004, 05:30 AM)
WHo in the right mind would like to meet all those paranormal crazy things? Oh that's right you are not in the right state of mind. laugh.gif People like you scare me for real! w00t.gif

Whatever you say, it will not change the fact that I want to experience all these things. I am VERY inquisitive and want to experience it all. You remind me of a movie with Jim Carry: "The Truman Show" where the man lives in a fake world most of his life and was happy and just did not have the inquisitiveness required to find out his world was fake for a long time.
50Cent
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif You remind me of the guy that gets free checks. Seriously I know you want to meet this things, but I just think that's crazy! But at least you braver than me I aint trying to get killed by no aliens that's all I know. rolleyes.gif
jpatt
Yes I agree, the thing to understand and consider is: is it WISE to want to "be abducted" (whatever that ultimately consists of)? Not only for yourself but for people you know, as abductions rarely solely focus on one person for very long - you live in a house with someone else? Family, children? You want them abducted? This is known as the "contamination factor" and is unfortunately quite common.

And what if you get your wish and get abducted. Are you prepared for that? Considering how hard it is and how long it takes to "get abducted" in the first place, are you so confident that it will just stop when you're "done being abducted"? Most abductees, whether they ultimately consider it a good or bad experience overall, will ALWAYS confirm that it is painful, frightening and traumatic in a way you can't imagine. Most abductees are taken at various times in their life, sometimes from the age of children.

Are you ready to face the possibility of being taken by freaky looking bug-eyed things once or twice a week for the rest of your life? Are you ready for your 4 year old to wake you up at 4 in the morning screaming about the "little doctors" that came in his window?

Think about this.
Dowdy
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Hi,

I live in central California and am very poor. I am seeking affordable ways of being able to meet aliens face to face and going with them on their spaceship and taking a ride in outer space. If anyone has any info., I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Transhumanism

Oh, by the way, I would also like to meet ghosts, spirits, deities, angels, and the like. I would appreciate any info. on this as well regarding how I can meet such entities.




fill your body with drugs and enjoy the show.


Transhumanism
QUOTE (jpatt @ May 5 2004, 07:57 AM)
Are you ready to face the possibility of being taken by freaky looking bug-eyed things once or twice a week for the rest of your life? Are you ready for your 4 year old to wake you up at 4 in the morning screaming about the "little doctors" that came in his window?


I live by myself and am not married nor have any kids.

Yes, I am prepared to be abducted and all the stuff that goes along with it.

If it becomes too painful, I can always just kill myself. So, there is an easy way out.
Falco Rex
Are you serious? If you see suicide as an option perhaps there are other issues in your life that should be dealt with before you start worrying about how to be abducted by aliens. I just read one of tour posts that said you wanted to be immortal and in this one you talk casually about killing yourself. What's going on Trans?
Moonfairie
I think you are just playing fool with us ! First you said "I want to have superpower" and now you say "I want to be abducted".

The most intelligent thing I can suggest you is to go to the psychiatrist or to the psychologist because I think you have a serious problem.
Transhumanism
I would really appreciate it if people would stick to the topic in this thread. I have specifically asked for info. on how to meet aliens and get abducted, and how I can also meet supernatural entities and have a supernatural experience.

This thread is NOT to discuss WHY I want to be abducted, or whether I have mental problems, or to engage in a battle of wits. The purpose of this thread is clear, please do me the favor of sticking to the topic. Thanks very much.
jpatt
Sorry Trans, you're right, you asked a specific question.

In that case, might as well go to one of the most popular abductees in history, Mr. Communion himself, Whitley Strieber. Visit his website, Unknown Country, sign up for membership (very cheap, like $10 for 3 months) and start downloading his mp3 files of "The Path Meditations" about half a dozen or so files I believe - only subscribing members can download the files, though I believe anyone can stream the files for free. These meditations are supposedly created and used specifically to allow anyone to bring themselves into contact with their own energies, the universe, and while doing so, the Visitors themselves. I did them for a couple of weeks but veered away from explicitly giving the black-eyed dudes the big thumbs up for a big bash at my place - mainly because I really have no desire to be abducted or really even contact them in that fashion (whatever they are), as I feel man needs to pull himself up out of the murk on his own, physically and spiritually, or die knowing he made his best attempt, rather than rely on an outside agency as a crutch. The rest of the meditations were pretty good though, and really fairly simple, and I did get at least 'chills' from doing them, which may or may not translate to 'feeling energies'. Good luck to you if you decide to do this or find another way to accomplish your goals.
Transhumanism
Response to jpatt:

So you are saying that by doing a certain kind of meditation, aliens will contact me by reading my brainwaves that are unique to this specific kind of meditation? Do the aliens send some type of massive scanning device across all humans and try to look for these brain waves and then make contact with them?
jpatt
Well I'm not the one to ask, as a friend of mine actually signed up for the site and downloaded the files and simply loaned me CDs with them - I generally don't sign up for things that cost money, even though I admit that isn't a bad deal. But as I was saying, I'm not really a true believer in ... well, anything, except I do believe there is *something there*, so I am not a scholar on the specifics of Whitley's contact or observations of his Visitors, but from what I recall him saying (which he also goes into on the meditations) is that the Visitors are either tuned in, or advanced, or whatever, enough, to their innate abilities, such as telepathy, or perhaps the universe at large, that they seem to use the old familiar idea of 'no time or space barrier', meaning you can basically directly contact them simply by putting yourself in the right frame of mind, 'charging up your energy', some creative visualization (of seeing the earth and space and then the Visitors), and basically welcoming them into contact with you - thats the long and short of it.

He claimed numerous people who did the meditations wrote and e-mailed him that they were in contact with the Visitors within 2 weeks of doing the Meditations... whether that was ultimately a good or bad idea, I'm not really sure. - plus, I have no doubt a lot, maybe even most of those people are bored, egotistical, unstable and the like, and simply WANT to have experiences so bad they can create them mentally to fulfill their wish - then again, if you have an experience and it has an effect on you, I guess its real eh?
Transhumanism
Okey, thanks for the info., I'll take a look into it when I get some time. I have a hard time believing though that the brain puts out some unknown energy: if we look at the basic physiology of the brain, all you have are ions moving quickly across synapses, ions of potassium and sodium. This is all thought is: charges running through synapses, kind of like a computer in which binary coded electricity runs through conducting and semi-conducting material. so, where does this supernatural energy come into play?

Thanks.
jpatt
Not being a doctor, or even a physicist (or any other scientist), I certainly wouldn't be able to debate the existance of extranormal faculties on a purely empirical level. though I can of course display that one thing that I have that everyone else also has: my opinion.

To me, the trap most people fall into, both skeptics and believers, is their rigid adherence to their own pet theories and framework, which they basically believe is the skeleton upon which the fabric of the universe hangs. While this may be for THEM, I am of the opinion that the universe itself may follow different laws and theories for different people - but again, thats not something I could argue, but if you're interested in that, I recommend the book the Holographic Universe, as well as doing some research on Bohm's work (mentioned in the book) and ideas.

You could fall back on the old cliche of man only using about 10-15% of his total mental capacity in his life (I have NO idea how we would be able to make this measurement to begin with), but quite honestly I have experienced (and initiated, much to my surprise) and seen and heard enough 'strange' occurrences to convince me that extranormal abilities DO exist - I of course have very little confidence that I know WHAT they are, or why, or how, but then I don't know the names of all my muscles and bones or exactly how they work, but I still get around from day to day alright.

I like the word extranormal because it avoids the stigma of 'paranormal' but means the same thing - something outside the everyday normal realm of experience for the average person. To me, technology we have now would be 'paranormal' to people 30 years ago - vaccines and cures and medicine were 'paranormal' when they first came about - eventually, with enough exploration and investigation and understanding of them, they were 'normalized' - I believe that is/will be the case with 'psi' powers and such, though I think its obvious those require a much more dedicated effort.

As for your pondering, I might answer and say that 'this supernatural (I don't like that word - if it exists, its natural, in some way) material' comes from the same place that life comes from. You could explain the process and chemicals involved in the creation of rudimentary life, but if given the resources, could you BUILD a new lifeform, with your own hand, and it live, breathe, reproduce and evolve, perhaps into a sentient being? Does life simply appear out of the proper mixture of elements, or is there something more that is needed - the spark of life? Where does that come from, that allows this? As with most things in life, we are more than the sum of our parts - I believe this reasonably can be applied to all aspects of our life and functioning. As for the synapses and such, although many researchers claim certain parts of the brain are stimulated during supposed 'psychic' experiments or activity, I personally am not firmly convinced 'psychic powers' are necessarily a cut-and-dried product of the BRAIN in and of itself. But thats of course, just my opinion.

Ultimately, the way I look at extranormal abilities is that if they exist, any attempt to work on and understand them is good, on a personal, self-improvement level if nothing else, and if they're total bunk, then the worst complaint you can have is that you probably learned to reason abstractly, accept and give criticism and critique and maybe, for those who practice certain rituals, learn how to meditate and relax your body and mind. As far as being ignorant or delusional, I'd much rather think ESP exists than be an avid believer that *I* might get that next spot on a reality TV show. Heh.

cor_raven
the main thing to do is to is go to the most remote place as possible and wait. more info than that i can. besides theymight have already adducted you but thay made you forget or they changed your memories. but then again maby there mocking you. after all the only reson aliens come to earth is to get pot wink2.gif
50Cent
What a reason! laugh.gif
saucy
Being abducted by aliens would be my worst fear, just waking up and being surrounded by aliens or stepping outside and seeing them running around in the dark! You'll see a grown man crapping in his pants, but I'll tell you what, I won't let a few four-feet tall, skinny, scrawny looking aliens take me without a few of them getting hurt or worse. Wouldn't be funny if a couple of aliens came to earth looking to kidnap us, but there were more of us and we kidnapped them, tied them to a tree and took their ship for a ride? That would be hilarious. I would go and visit a few friends, scare the crap out of them, maybe drive by the whitehouse.

Okay, I don't know about aliens, but there are several websites out there for real ghost hunters that go to houses and set up equipment and spend a night in a haunted house and try to see things. At least there's a few places in Michigan where I live, but there are others I'm sure. Join one of them on a trip. It would at least be something fun and interesting to do, even if you don't see anything. Angels, well they show up, but not to very many people. I've asked God to see an angel and He told me that all in due time so I'm looking forward to that. Basically, the supernatural will find you, but sometimes you have to go and find it. I'm not sure where you live, but you have to go online and find out where people have claimed to see ghosts and go there, see if you can't stay the night.
cor_raven
QUOTE (saucy @ May 8 2004, 01:03 PM)
I won't let a few four-feet tall, skinny, scrawny looking aliens take me without a few of them getting hurt or worse.

Yeah damn right gunsmilie.gif
Transhumanism
QUOTE (saucy @ May 8 2004, 01:03 PM)
Being abducted by aliens would be my worst fear, just waking up and being surrounded by aliens or stepping outside and seeing them running around in the dark!

Yes, my rationalism would probably end up giving in to my instinctual medulla emotions of fear if suddenly confronted with aliens in the middle of the night. But, it would still be pretty cool.

Oh, I live in Central California, by the way. Any supernatural entities or aliens around here?
AztecInca

Why would an alien abduct you just because you want them to? They have their own plan and agenda. They abduct who they want to and not just aayone who wants to say "I come on behalf of the human race etc..............

I would love to meet the them but I dont expect them to appear if I just walk outside and shout "abduct me PLEASE"

Anyway I wish you luck on your mission to meet the paranormal beings and if your successful tell me how you did it.PLEASE. thumbsup.gif

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thumbsup.gif
Transhumanism
My purpose is to serve my self-interest here. If aliens exist, I want to benefit from their technology. Since I am a pragmatist, I have a desire of making practical use of knowledge, instead of JUST purely pondering about it.

Those that don't want super-powers are what I would call mal-adaptively self-sacrificing and altruistic. That is fine though, everyone is different. We all want different things.

Yes, if I do meet aliens, I will TRY to let you know, if you are still around and I can find you.
wunarmdscissor
For all you know mate they might just abduct you give you an anal probe , decide you aint worth anymore and bring you back with no powers or knowledge oh and with a sore arse to boot. lol tongue.gif

I would seriously re-consider the abduction point until we find out their intentions honourable or not towards the human race.
saucy
If you only want aliens to abduct you so you can get supernatural powers, then something is serously wrong with you. First of all, I've never heard that anyone aquired powers after being abducted so the chances of you getting them are 0%. If you want it to happen because you think it might pull you from the gutter or people will think you're socially acceptable to hang out with now, think again! People will think that you're more crazy than before and need help which I think you need to get before chasing after any powers. I believe you watch too many movies or are hanging onto the past for some reason. Understand that NOBODY has supernatural powers because this world is full of natural people with God-given talent. Whether you believe in God or not is irrevelant. I would currently classify you as one of those people standing on the top of the building in Independance Day just before it got blasted. I know for a fact that everyone has a special talent and if you want to pull yourself from the so-called poverty level, you need to hone in on your talents. If you're a writer-type, write a story about your experiences with aliens that can be truly fake. The story can be about you searching for aliens and you actually find them. I don't know what your special "powers" are, but the sky is the limit! Use it!
cor_raven
Personally i could go through life , not get abducted by aliens or meet ANY SUPERNATURAL BEINGS, and be perfectly satisfied
( thats not capitalized for any reson i accidently hit the cap lock and was to lazzy to correct it) whistling2.gif
Transhumanism
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If you only want aliens to abduct you so you can get supernatural powers, then something is serously wrong with you.


If you believe in God as you have stated, that means you want superpowers as well. You believe when you go to Heaven, you will be given a super-body that never dies and is indestructable and non-damagable, you become immortal. All your hedonistic desires come true at the snap of a finger. So, by your own definition, there is something wrong with you as well. So, explain you hypocracy here. Don't change the topic, don't try to dodge this point. Rather, confront it as soon as you get back on this thread.

On a second note, you are all wasting your time by insulting because I never get offended. As a pragmatist and stoic, words have no emotional affect on me. So, please only post to this thread if you have any information on how to get abducted. Thanks, and I hope all of you have a nice day.

Best wishes
chico del nacho
i must say, that was rather well put, trans.

still, i don't envy your stoicism, that's for sure. regardless, while i don't particularly agree with your desire for abduction and superpowers, i can't help you.
saucy
I don't believe in God just so I can go to heaven. I'm not insulting you. You want supernatural powers here on earth where they aren't possible. If I believe they will be there when I die and go to heaven, that doesn't mean I'm seeking them or that it will actually happen. You're looking to, right now, contact an alien to achieve these great powers, which they won't give you. If they gave you the powers, that would mean the aliens gave away their secret and the world would know they exist. I was just telling you like it is. I may achieve powers in heaven, but I'm not looking for them. You're hanging onto some kind of fantasy that will never happen. There's no proof that aliens even exist. As a matter of fact, I'm sure they don't exist. Maybe I haven't really heard of any authentic stories, you can post them if you wish so I can read them, but you're obviously mentally unstable to want to get abducted.
Transhumanism
QUOTE (chico del nacho @ May 9 2004, 10:05 PM)
i don't envy your stoicism, that's for sure. regardless, while i don't particularly agree with your desire for abduction and superpowers, i can't help you.

I think that is perfectly fine. I believe everyone is different and have different desires and that that is just fine and to "live and let live." If you don't share my desires, I believe that is your right and you should do whatever fullfills you. So, I wish you no ill-will just because your aspirations don't coincide with mine.

have a nice day.
Transhumanism
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I don't believe in God just so I can go to heaven.


What I am saying is that I assume you do indeed believe you will get super-powers in Heaven and that you are happy about it.

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You want supernatural powers here on earth where they aren't possible


I don't believe in the existance of Heaven, just the natural world, so, my super-powers will have to be acquired right here in our universe, as I believe.

QUOTE
If I believe they will be there when I die and go to heaven, that doesn't mean I'm seeking them or that it will actually happen.


With all due respect, I don't believe you. If you believe in God, then I think you do indeed believe in the existance of Heaven and you are glad you will be given super-powers in Heaven. All religions have these features in common, with perhaps the exception of Buddhism.

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You're looking to, right now, contact an alien to achieve these great powers, which they won't give you.


I may never even meet aliens, let alone get powers from them. I am taking a gamble, similar to how people play the lotto but are more likely to die in a car accident than win anything. But, as long as I try, I'm satistified.

QUOTE
You're hanging onto some kind of fantasy that will never happen.


Similar to your fantasy of Heaven. But, I agree that my desires will probably not come true. But I will still try.

QUOTE
There's no proof that aliens even exist.


Similar to how there is no proof your deity exists. You have a very large double standard: you believe your "fantasies" are valid, but mine are not, even though the scenarios surrounding both of our fantasies are identical. I can see outside the box and look at the situation objectively, I think you should try the same.

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but you're obviously mentally unstable to want to get abducted.


Then that would make you "mentally unstable" as well since you have the same fantasy as me: to meet entities with much higher powers that will help you. You call this entity "God," I call it "aliens." On a second note, what is your definition of "mental unstability?" How do you psychometrically measure it? If you are going to put forth the assumption that you have a scientific background in psychology, please provide the research to back up your psychological claims regarding the status quo of my personality. Then look at my personality trait from an evolutionary point of view, from a behavioral genetics point of view, and from a societal point of view and then make your case as to how my personality either facilities or hinders the inclusive fitness of my nation. I will wait for your scientific response.
saucy
I've never claimed to be mentally stable! wink2.gif

Truthfully, there is no such thing as stable. There's no way to decide what's the truth. There's no way to prove the supernatural. There's not even a hint to the possiblity of evolution. The only thing we have to rely on when it comes to creation is a single book that many say is unreliable and contradicts itself. When you talk to everyone here and we all call you crazy for what you attempt, we're the ones who are wrong. Sure. I believe in God no to achieve supernatural powers. I would be happy just to go to heaven as myself, no perfect body, no immortality, just a chance to witness something beautiful. There's a chance that after I die, I'll just blink out of existance, no one to ever care for me or hear from me again. I'll just die away, never able to see a tree or feel the wind or see the smile of a beautiful woman and I don't know about you, but I would rather be an afterlife, which there's a lot of evidence off (please visit the ghost and paranormal site and any christian site in the world to verify) that there is indeed a life after death. The very idea that I'll just blink out of existance is appauling and a bit scary. The idea behind evolution is that the whole world, all of life, this planet has no meaning, has no creation, has nothing. I promised myself I would stay out of these kind of discussions, but I was drawn into them.

Like everyone else who replied, I was simply wondering why you want to be abducted, knowing all of the concequences involved. Every abduction story include anal probes and them sticking long metal things into your body and ends with you spending lots of money and time talking to a psychiatist and the whole world, everyone you talk to, will think you're nuts as they do now. Sorry if I have offended you, but that's my point and it will be my final one.
Transhumanism
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There's no way to decide what's the truth.


I agree, "truth" is limited to the biological mechanisms of our brains and what our brains can perceive. "Truth" to a lizard would be very different from "Truth" to a human, for example.

On the other hand, we can use the scientific method to at least produce repeatable and practical results, or at least results that our brains perceives as repeatable and practical.

QUOTE
There's not even a hint to the possiblity of evolution.


Evolution by definitions simply means any changes in gene frequency of a population. This can be witnessed, and has been witnessed, within a generation. What is debatable between Christians and atheist scientists though is HOW MUCH gene frequency shifting has occured. Has enough gene frequency shifting occured to which a monkey has changed to humans over thousands of years? Or is gene frequency shifting only at a very low level where things like genetic diseases, skin/eye/hair color, height, etc. have changed a bit in a population.

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I would be happy just to go to heaven as myself, no perfect body, no immortality, just a chance to witness something beautiful.


Let's say there was no Heaven and you only get to meet your deity and then die for ever. What if suddenly your deity offers you eternal life in Heaven? Would you take it?

QUOTE
Sorry if I have offended you


No need to apologize, I never get offended.
Transhumanism
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The very idea that I'll just blink out of existance is appauling and a bit scary.


So first you say you don't care whether or not your diety gives you immortality, but then you say you are scared of being dead for ever, indicating that you DO wish your deity will give you immortality. I rest my case.
cor_raven
huh.gif man there gonna have to move this againthis time to the religion section
saucy
I just want to say that I really dislike people like you because you go through and tear apart every single thing I have to say so that you can prove you're right. You need to understand something son: YOU'RE NOT RIGHT! THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT! I BELIEVE IN WHAT I WANT TO AND I STATE MY BELIEFS ONLY TO TRY AND HELP THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW! I ADMIT THAT I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T GO AROUND TRASHING OTHER PEOPLE'S ARGUEMENTS BY TAKING QUOTES OF SOMETHING YOU'VE SAID AND TEARING THEM APART!

**Saucy takes deep breaths and remembers he is a Christian**

Yes, I am scared of dying. I don't want to die, but if my God doesn't want to give me immortality, so what. I won't even know what hit me after I die. That doesn't mean anything, me being afraid of death. That doesn't mean I crave immortality. It would be nice, yeah, but I don't worship because of it or to gain any reward. Honestly, I don't deserve them and neither do you. Nobody deserves these superpowers. You're all moping around, probably crying because you're living in poverty and you think the whole world owes you something....WAKE-UP! WE DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING. YOU ARE NOBODY, JUST LIKE ME, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. IF THERE IS A GOD, THEN HE'S WHAT THERE IS. IF THERE IS NO GOD, THEN THERE'S NOTHING, NO REASON FOR LIVING, NO PURPOSE FOR US BEING HERE...NOTHING! THERE ARE MILLIONS, MAYBE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT MUCH, MUCH WORSE THAN YOU DO BUT YOU WANT IT ALL, ALIEN SUPERNATURAL POWERS; TO BENEFIT FROM THEIR TECHNOLOGY. YOU DON'T DESERVE THEM!

Instead of making your life better, try making the lives better of those who are truly suffering. Stop making people feel sorry for you, stop trying to prove everyone else wrong when you're the one who is searching for answers yourself and stop looking for something better because it's just not there. Everyone here suffers, from royalty to the poorest peasant. They say money makes things better, but it doesn't. It won't help you find what you're looking for. Supernatural powers won't get you anywhere but maybe locked up in the loony bin. God bless you, if you let him. Don't wait for something wonderful and marvelous to drop into your lap. Get out there and look for it!
chico del nacho
lol settle down there, saucy.
*gives saucy a bowl of soup*
so long as you feel you know what's right for you, and you've proven you do, you've done something many people can't do. i can't say for sure anything with that kind of certainty. don't let people like trans bug ya.

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Don't wait for something wonderful and marvelous to drop into your lap. Get out there and look for it!

well put. now if only i wasn't so lazy... whistling2.gif
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