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Lottie
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lemurs, once believed to be cute but basically stupid, show startling intelligence when given a chance to win treats by playing a computer game, U.S. researchers say.

The study will help shed light on how humans became sophisticated mathematically, the Duke University team said on Wednesday.

So far, it suggests primitive animals such as lemurs need a good reason, such as a treat, to bother trying to count. Humans and monkeys, in contrast, will stretch their minds simply out of curiosity.

Lemurs are primates, as are monkeys, apes and humans. But they are considered far less intelligent. "The little bit of research that's out there suggests their learning capacities are not as sophisticated as those of monkeys," said psychologist Elizabeth Brannon, who led the research.

"So initially, I thought it very unlikely that I was going to get any cognitive experiments to really work with them."

But she found a combination of greed and the lure of a touch-screen computer worked to get the long-tailed animals to co-operate.

"If a task involves a food reward, they can be amazing," she said. "They'll work for a couple of hundred trials because they want these sugar pellets, even though we do not deprive them of food in any way."

Although lemurs are social, they would often stop what they were doing to play on the computer.

"Occasionally, one animal would come over and finish the sequence started by another to get the reward," said Brannon.

Unexpectedly, the lemurs could remember sequences. For instance, they showed they could remember the order of appearance of random images by touching them in order when they reappeared as a group.

"It shows that the animal is actually learning some kind of strategy above and beyond what they're learning about the individual pictures in a given set," Brannon said.

But the lemurs were not especially dextrous. "While monkeys will use their fingers, the ringtails (lemurs) use their nose or mouth to touch the screen, sometimes kind of kissing it," Brannon said.

doomgirl
Animals are smart in their own way, the trouble is, humans keep comparing their intelligence to ours and that really isn't fair disgust.gif





damn typo's whistling2.gif
Ring Tailed Lemur
LEMURS ARE NOT STUPID BUT WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS STUPID PEOPLE WHO THINK LEMURS ARE STUPID angry.gif mad.gif angry.gif mad.gif angry.gif mad.gif angry.gif mad.gif
Raptor
How could anyone ever think they're dumb...

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Saint
QUOTE(Lottie @ May 13 2004, 04:46 AM) [snapback]170465[/snapback]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lemurs, once believed to be cute but basically stupid...


Believed by whom? I never regarded them as thick at all, always thought they were intelligent.
crouton
QUOTE(doomgirl @ May 12 2004, 11:47 PM) [snapback]170480[/snapback]

Animals are smart in their own way, the trouble is, humans keep comparing their intelligence to ours and that really isn't fair disgust.gif


Yeah, especially cause animals are sooooo much smarter there is no contest! grin2.gif
coldethyl
I have lemurs routinely perform brain surgery on me.
crouton
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 24 2006, 02:34 PM) [snapback]1281933[/snapback]

I have lemurs routinely perform brain surgery on me.



Ahhhh! That explains a lot. grin2.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(crouton @ Aug 2 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]1293061[/snapback]

Ahhhh! That explains a lot. grin2.gif


ohmy.gif Hhheeeyy....

Actually, it probably does.....
Celumnaz
QUOTE(Saint @ Jul 19 2006, 04:35 AM) [snapback]1275532[/snapback]

Believed by whom? I never regarded them as thick at all, always thought they were intelligent.

laugh.gif thumbsup.gif That's my problem with alot of "news" articles... it's usually just and only the opinion of the "reporter" writing the article! laugh.gif
crouton
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Aug 3 2006, 12:51 PM) [snapback]1293942[/snapback]

ohmy.gif Hhheeeyy....

Actually, it probably does.....



Sorry, coldethyl, you just left yourself wide open for that! laugh.gif

I'm just glad I got there first! grin2.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(crouton @ Aug 4 2006, 12:25 AM) [snapback]1294534[/snapback]

Sorry, coldethyl, you just left yourself wide open for that! laugh.gif

I'm just glad I got there first! grin2.gif


S'okay. If I dish it out it means I gotta take it too! laugh.gif thumbsup.gif
Oderint
does anyone know what video game the monkeys mastered?
My money is on Call of Duty 2

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Shivel
QUOTE(doomgirl @ May 13 2004, 02:47 AM) [snapback]170480[/snapback]

Animals are smart in their own way, the trouble is, humans keep comparing their intelligence to ours and that really isn't fair disgust.gif
damn typo's whistling2.gif


In order for a person to call an animal "smart", they would have to compare that animal to another animal. It makes perfect sense that we compare them to our general intelligence.
Never_Hit_Nirvana
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The next round of text subjects.
"I like to move it, move it..."
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Reincarnated
gotta love human ignorance.
MrVelvet
I wonder how lemurs taste... w00t.gif
Necrodancer
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jul 19 2006, 09:30 AM) [snapback]1275528[/snapback]

How could anyone ever think they're dumb...

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Ahaha!
Thistle
I think I can safely close this one down considering no one has anything even vaguely sensible to contribute anymore.

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