Lottie
May 13 2004, 04:46 AM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lemurs, once believed to be cute but basically stupid, show startling intelligence when given a chance to win treats by playing a computer game, U.S. researchers say.
The study will help shed light on how humans became sophisticated mathematically, the Duke University team said on Wednesday.
So far, it suggests primitive animals such as lemurs need a good reason, such as a treat, to bother trying to count. Humans and monkeys, in contrast, will stretch their minds simply out of curiosity.
Lemurs are primates, as are monkeys, apes and humans. But they are considered far less intelligent. "The little bit of research that's out there suggests their learning capacities are not as sophisticated as those of monkeys," said psychologist Elizabeth Brannon, who led the research.
"So initially, I thought it very unlikely that I was going to get any cognitive experiments to really work with them."
But she found a combination of greed and the lure of a touch-screen computer worked to get the long-tailed animals to co-operate.
"If a task involves a food reward, they can be amazing," she said. "They'll work for a couple of hundred trials because they want these sugar pellets, even though we do not deprive them of food in any way."
Although lemurs are social, they would often stop what they were doing to play on the computer.
"Occasionally, one animal would come over and finish the sequence started by another to get the reward," said Brannon.
Unexpectedly, the lemurs could remember sequences. For instance, they showed they could remember the order of appearance of random images by touching them in order when they reappeared as a group.
"It shows that the animal is actually learning some kind of strategy above and beyond what they're learning about the individual pictures in a given set," Brannon said.
But the lemurs were not especially dextrous. "While monkeys will use their fingers, the ringtails (lemurs) use their nose or mouth to touch the screen, sometimes kind of kissing it," Brannon said.
doomgirl
May 13 2004, 06:47 AM
Animals are smart in their own way, the trouble is, humans keep comparing their intelligence to ours and that really isn't fair

damn typo's
Ring Tailed Lemur
Jul 19 2006, 03:19 AM
Raptor
Jul 19 2006, 09:30 AM
How could anyone ever think they're dumb...

Saint
Jul 19 2006, 09:35 AM
QUOTE(Lottie @ May 13 2004, 04:46 AM) [snapback]170465[/snapback]
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lemurs, once believed to be cute but basically stupid...
Believed by whom? I never regarded them as thick at all, always thought they were intelligent.
crouton
Jul 24 2006, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(doomgirl @ May 12 2004, 11:47 PM) [snapback]170480[/snapback]
Animals are smart in their own way, the trouble is, humans keep comparing their intelligence to ours and that really isn't fair

Yeah, especially cause animals are sooooo much smarter there is no contest!
coldethyl
Jul 24 2006, 09:34 PM
I have lemurs routinely perform brain surgery on me.
crouton
Aug 3 2006, 03:19 AM
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 24 2006, 02:34 PM) [snapback]1281933[/snapback]
I have lemurs routinely perform brain surgery on me.
Ahhhh! That explains a lot.
coldethyl
Aug 3 2006, 07:51 PM
QUOTE(crouton @ Aug 2 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]1293061[/snapback]
Ahhhh! That explains a lot.


Hhheeeyy....
Actually, it probably does.....
Celumnaz
Aug 3 2006, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(Saint @ Jul 19 2006, 04:35 AM) [snapback]1275532[/snapback]
Believed by whom? I never regarded them as thick at all, always thought they were intelligent.

That's my problem with alot of "news" articles... it's usually just and only the opinion of the "reporter" writing the article!
crouton
Aug 4 2006, 05:25 AM
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Aug 3 2006, 12:51 PM) [snapback]1293942[/snapback]

Hhheeeyy....
Actually, it probably does.....
Sorry, coldethyl, you just left yourself wide open for that!
I'm just glad I got there first!
coldethyl
Aug 4 2006, 08:53 PM
QUOTE(crouton @ Aug 4 2006, 12:25 AM) [snapback]1294534[/snapback]
Sorry, coldethyl, you just left yourself wide open for that!
I'm just glad I got there first!

S'okay. If I dish it out it means I gotta take it too!
Oderint
Aug 5 2006, 01:06 AM
does anyone know what video game the monkeys mastered?
My money is on Call of Duty 2
Shivel
Aug 5 2006, 01:18 AM
QUOTE(doomgirl @ May 13 2004, 02:47 AM) [snapback]170480[/snapback]
Animals are smart in their own way, the trouble is, humans keep comparing their intelligence to ours and that really isn't fair

damn typo's

In order for a person to call an animal "smart", they would have to compare that animal to another animal. It makes perfect sense that we compare them to our general intelligence.
Reincarnated
Aug 5 2006, 05:49 PM
gotta love human ignorance.
Necrodancer
Aug 12 2006, 11:43 PM
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jul 19 2006, 09:30 AM) [snapback]1275528[/snapback]
How could anyone ever think they're dumb...


Ahaha!
Thistle
Aug 13 2006, 08:56 PM
I think I can safely close this one down considering no one has anything even vaguely sensible to contribute anymore.