After having a long conversation with LoonBoy on crop circle communication (Link to thread), I was left wondering what crop circles mean. So instead of buying a book, i'm going to post images of crop circles and you tell me what you think the message could be.

feel free to post images of your own


First, this formation was found early in the morning, there were no footprints anywhere near it, and the stalks were bent, not broken. more than likely its not a hoax, so what could it mean? (other than the obvious representation of our solar system)

"This is where you are, this is where we are. Stop by for a cuppa tea sometime."

Looks like either it's our solar sysytem in the past or future, or someone else's.

Here's some more pics: more crop circles

well, i painstakingly counted all the circles, and there are 92.
could it represent the 92 elements that naturally occour on our planet or in this solar system? possibly saying that these arent all the elements, just because theyre the only ones here?

and whats with the circle in the ring by mars(?) is that them saying this is where we are?

What strikes me about this, and most Crop Circles, is they are just that: CIRCLES.
Occasionally there are squares or triangles but the vast majority seem to be circles or at the very least symetricle.

Now, (puts cynic's hat on), is this because circles are easy too fake and there are a huge number of fakes?

OR

(hat swapped for more usual "open minded" one),


Is the very symetry a message in its self?

I've lost faith in the idea of crop circles.One thing that does freak me out. The 'mowing devil'. A woodcut from the 1600's showing that these crop phenomena occured back then, by man or NOT...


CHECK IT OUT!

http://www.forteantimes.com/gallery/mowingdevil.shtml

Humberwitch.

crop circles are easy to fake because they are circles, what cant be faked is:bent stalks, the 'sound resination' (investigated by nasa) the electromagnetic energy...and some other stuff. click the link on the original message for more info.

Here is an interesting one. supposedly its binary code(i cant read binary)
it was in a field with a human face formation.

*i will post the face a little later

Due to the lengthy debate in the other thread, I'm not going to participate in this thread -

(Hands reins back to UA)

The first could possibly be (if I thought crop circles were real) the structure of an atom in their part of the universe?

The fact that none of these have been (or reported to be anyway) instantly recognizable says that most likely, we really won't know what they are, what they're for, or who (or what) is creating them. Its all good to speculate of course, but - from atoms and molecules, to music, to DNA strands, to a base-6 numerical and mathematical system, to communications via the most basic form of self-expression and therefore will - art - what are the CURRENT functions they are performing?

'maps and directions' like in the movie "Signs" - basically, "this way to Phoenix" or "lots of people with guns here". The symbols aren't even FOR us, but only for whoever is creating them.

'secret communication' with certain individuals "in the know", possibly involving the government, a sort of terrestrial telegram - when news copters fly over and newspaper reports start yabbering about another strange swath cut into Farmer McGillicutty's corn crop, *someone* knows what this means - what then? Will they tell us? Is it good or bad?

'heya' - as stated before, perhaps they are some form of teaching tool, showing us the characters of their extremely complex languages, or mimicking our own language in their way, trying to find common ground, etc.

'covert gubment bidness' - Well, who knows. Something called "biosensors" is being worked on by the United States Department of Defense - perhaps these crops have been altered in such a way that they have been made to "sense" and react to certain things? Maybe one of our top secret labs are beaming invisible rays of some sort into "tagged" crops, which are programmed to lay down in a certain pattern? Maybe the crop circles are being created by something alright but not the way we think - maybe they are detecting something ...

'psychological warfare' from whoever THEY are. Simply plastering grafitti all over our planet with impugnity, knowing we know its there but not knowing what it is or how its being done or what we can do about it. Simple intimidation?

'manifestation of collective unconscious' - perhaps these symbols are a natural 'language' which mankind, overall, is creating, unconsciously, and causing to manifest. As our individual thoughts change by the second, so too would the collective thoughts of our species, therefore no two circles would ever be the same - makes me wonder about any changes or identifiable differences in circle patterns before and after traumatic events, wars, etc.

'natural' ahem. Water spouts, plasma vortexes, yeah. Some of these I believe are probably correct, as nature does have a way of doing some pretty bizarre things now and then. All of them? No way.

'hoaxes' - yeah but not ALL of them, no way. They are NOT two guys in England, nor an entire college class in the states - I give them credit but unless they have a lot of time and money, and are trained ninjas, the idea that all circles are hoaxes created by people for various reasons is simply ridiculous. As for radiation though, an experiment was done recently in which a university modified a microwave oven and 'aimed' it at portions of a field, and got (according to the reports) identical crop-circle-like results (crops changed on the molecular level, radiation, etc) - again, unless there are a lot of people walking around in someone's field in the middle of the night carrying a G.E. kitchenmate, I can't in good conscience give this one full credit.

All in all, far too many things we KNOW of that they could be, and FAR more things we DON'T know, or don't apply to the phenomenon, to really think we could come up with an answer that is obvious enough to make us slap ourselves on the foreheads.

If there are 92 circles.....could it be the structure of the Uranium atom ?

Athlon

its possible, i had'nt noticed that 92 was uranium's atomic mass. could it be a covert government message? i believe the circle is a couple years old, and i havent heard anything about a nuke. very odd.

It probably means "Hay Dude look at the pretty pattern i made over night, to miss lead others into thinking aliens can be bothered to leave messages we dont understand, oh it gonna make me famous for about a month an maybe be in a book yay!!"
Crop circles have been proven, get over it!

Im not trying to be nagative...ok maybe i am....but come on people.

Moving right along....

on page one i posted a second pic.
i have since found out that it could possibly be a reply to a message that SETI sent in 1974.


Click scar's above link for the info. its on page 4 of that particular thread
Or Click Here for the full article on this formation.

Whether the crop circles that have been posted on this thread are real or hoaxes, they are all very creatively and intricately designed. Someone [meaning a human or alien] obviously has some very real talent. Had to wonder though are you sure some are not photoshop jobs?

Thanks for the link UA. Well then these crop circles really are amazing then. Whoever and whatever is doing these are definately not after money. Something like that in the Tate Modern would be worth a small fortune.

Great links UniversalAbsurdity,

This one caught my eye, definately an eclipse although it doesn't look that perfect. The circles are wonky leading me to believe that this might have been faked.

I can see how it could be fake, I'm partial to that opinion as well. The same distortion happens as the crops grow, so if it was placed there in young crop it would distort as it grew.

I heard of one crop circle that through long translations of shapes etc i dunno it was a long process people were able to find that a certain crop circle they were studying purposed the end of the earth...not universe, just earth...It had all the planets except earth in it....Wierd...If anyone has this pic please post it.

Here's some new information about crop circles from Biophysicist W. C. Levengood
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID...ory=Environment

I think the messages are pretty clear: "We have string, boards, and a great imagination..."

I love crop circles.

People admit to making crop circles. People videotape themselves making crop circles. TV shows are dedicated to how crop circles are hoaxed. Websites are dedicated to crop circle hoaxes.

But somehow people still consider them to be works of aliens..." I know that all of the other crop circles were faked, but this one is real. Really!"

I hear the claims from folks that are not familiar with mathmatics and engineering that "they are impossible to duplicate" as they are too intricate and detailed. People have been constructing intricate, detailed things for millennia. Humans are pretty smart that way...

Just like magic, when you don't know how the trick is done it seems impossible. Generally the truth of that matter is that the trick is really rather simple...

I have to ask, why would an obviousely advanced culture decide to contact us and communicate through crops? Really? Wouldn't a radio signal do the trick? Maybe a pulsing light from their far away planet? and email?

Growth node expulsion cavities and Semi-molten magnetic iron have been duplicated by hoaxers. TLC did a show that covered both of those aspects of the hoaxing.

The nodes were duplicated with a directional microwave signals, and the magnetite was duplicated with a simple device that used a torch to heat iron filings to near melting and then blow them through a tube at high pressure...

I'll see if I can find the link to the show...

Yes but how did the Hoaxers complete that process on ones the size of football fields?, and all happening over night. Just because the process can be completed in the lab doesn't mean it was faked, nor does it mean that that is the only process that will have the same results.

I understood what you meant by the board and rope method, but now the hoaxers have microwave signals and blowtorches?

Perhaps crop circles are nothing more than alien graffiti? Just an idea.

Crop circles have been around for a few hundred years, but not until the past 50 have they been laid out into technilogical orders. It also seems that as time goes by they become more complicated. Could it be that what or whomever is creating them is showing us our own advancement in some way?

I'm getting visions of Jodie Foster over here.

That is an interesting link Universal!

Do you know more about it?

unfortunately chauncy i have no further information about crop circles as indications of propulsion systems, i am doing more research on it (when i have time)

its amazing what can be found on the internet

I think i remember someone asking to see this formation

either way, i think its time to look a different image and see if we cant figure out a meaning for it.

Can't land in a field snuff.. them circles are made with mental telepathy.

snuffypuffer Posted on May 26 2004, 05:22 PM

Now, I haven't made up my mind as to how these were made, but the 92 circles would appear to be the asteroid belt. Earth's orbit is there, but the planet itself is missing. It's meaning depends on what/who made it.

I know wat crop circles are.


They are a test of our patience, imagine if no one looked at them, waiting till we knew wat they were, then my comrades will understand that the planet has so much of intelligent life, beacasue even though the unbelievble is happening, they keep their cool and wait.

Wow.

I think crop circles mean that a lot of people have way to much time on their hands!

My friend and I have several theories concerning crop circles- and none of them include aliens.

Some (in fact most) have most definately been proven to be made by man. There are a few, however, that cannot be explained. I watched a special once on these crop circles in England, where a man was video taping the circle from slightly above it-on a ridge. He and his wife, were commenting on how big it was, when he caught a ball of light, floating above the ground (bout 15 ft), moving quite swiftly, but not so fast that he couldn't follow it with his camera. Some scientists that veiwed the tape claimed it was ball lightning, but other experts claimed that ball lightning did not stop and hover (like it did in the tape), nor did it move and change direction like this particular orb did. It was all very interesting.

Anywho, my theroy is that crop circles may be messages from the plants themselves, or the Earth Spirits that inhabit our wonderful planet. Go ahead and laugh, but I just feel in my gut, that extraterestrial life, would probably not use our planet as an, etch-a-sketch. When they do come to the Earth, I'm sure they know by now, that we are capable of speech and some intellegent conversing. Why would they try and draw it out for us?

I think its just 'Let's show them we are a friendly and technological race'. Of course they know earth language, but direct communication/linguistic crop signs to a stage X developing race is still prohibitied.

some are hoaxes, but some cant be. 1 appeard within a timeframe of 30 mins, and it was really big. ill try and find a pic of it. explain that