BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 10:54 PM
Interestingly enough, undetermined.
While he's saved my back a few times, and i've found lots of notes about how he's a cop trying to stop whats happening here, there's alot of evidence to suggest he isn't who he says he is, and his intentions are different than what's in plain sight..
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 10:59 PM
OH! I know why Leon and Ashley have weird colored eyes. It's because of materia!
Any way i'm gonna have to wait till friday to get it since i have skiing and i dont dare to send my mom to get it. God knows what shed come home with.
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:04 PM
hahaha sucker! Man friday, i'll be done by friday!

At least if you need it i'll be able to help out with puzzles. There's a few quite tough ones. I had to really look hard to get teh answers in some cases.
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 11:06 PM
Good i was hopeing for some tough puzzles.
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:07 PM
They're still pretty basic RE puzzles tho. Just 'upped' a notch.
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 11:09 PM
WHat do mean by a "basic resident evil puzzle"?
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:16 PM
You know, put this here and this happens, push these buttons in this order to get this to put here and get this, etc etc.
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 11:17 PM
Oh boy i just excell at those.
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:32 PM
Good. You need too in this game. You have to look EVERYWHERE sometimes to find the answers you need.
You know what else is a god-send? The freedom of roaming in this game. Fence in your way? Hop over it. Enemy on the roof? Pull up a ladder, go up there and kick his sorry ass off, then jump down of your own free will. It's excellent.
Go on ask me more questions i'm dying here at work, i'm RE4 deprived.
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 11:36 PM
Have you met that guy with the weird eye and the beard?
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:37 PM
Yeah! Several times. One tough mutha facker. Killed him dead. Needed his eyeball.
Soneofabitch turned into something resembling... well, 20 mins into his boss fight, he didn't resemble anything human that's for sure.
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 11:40 PM
Oh and for other
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SPOILERS~~~~

How does the inventory system work?
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:56 PM
Actually that's a BIG change.
It's really fantastic. There's several options at the top of the stats screen:
Treasure/Key Items
Weapons/Healing
Map etc
All the treasure/money/key items you find don't take up a space in your inventory. They just appear in a scroll list you can examine and combine items in.
The weapons/healing items screen is awesome. Before you'd have 8 blocks and that's it right? in this one, you have about 50 blocks and it's in a big rectangle like a grid. All your items must fit in there. The shotgun, for example, takes up about 16 of those blocks, while herbs take up 2 etc etc. You can flip the items on their sides to make it easier to contain them all, and you can by enlargements for the 'attache case' as it's called to allow you more blocks to carry more stuff. You can put things down and collect them later too like in Zero.
ChrisC098
Jan 12 2005, 11:57 PM
lol its like tetris.
oh oh what about the troll have you met him?
BurnSide
Jan 12 2005, 11:59 PM
Second boss.
That was HARD. He picked up smegging trees and threw them at me.
I've actually killed 2.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 12:02 AM
Oh my god

I must have this game. I cant wait.
Tell me more about the treasure.
Shakezulah
Jan 13 2005, 12:16 AM
you have to fight that troll thing about 4 or 5 times in the game.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 12:30 AM
QUOTE(ChrisC098 @ Jan 12 2005, 07:02 PM)
Oh my god

I must have this game. I cant wait.
Tell me more about the treasure.
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Okay. Well the treasure is just used to sell to the merchants for cash. You find TONS of cash, villagers drop it, you find it in houses, etc. But the treasure is the real goodness.
You find small items, like precious rocks. But you can also find bigger items like gold pearl necklaces. The better the item, the better the payoff.
Early in the game i found a gold headdress with three missing parts. The headdress itself was worth 3000 but later on you can find extra parts to it and insert them to up the payoff of the headdress. I found two special gens and put them in, and it's now worth 15000 instead of the 3000 and 2000 for each gem. Sweet huh?
There's SO much to buy, so you need every dime you can find.
QUOTE(hereticdude666 @ Jan 12 2005, 07:16 PM)
you have to fight that troll thing about 4 or 5 times in the game.
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Well it's not the same one, after the initial boss fight they pop up from time to time. Tough buggers, but if you use your eyes, sometimes there's easy ways to kill them without wasting all your ammo and health.
Got the game yet HD?
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 12:32 AM
You have to shoot them? I just thought it was quick time till it dies or something like that.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 12:35 AM
Quick time?
It's a boss fight. Running, shooting, dodging, hiding.
Sonofabitch stimped on the hut i was hiding in. Crushed it, and me, completely.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 12:39 AM
Quick time as in push A right now or else youll be hit by a tree.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 12:44 AM
Oh. Well yes, there is alot of that involved.
Different buttons at different times. But yes, sometimes the 'El Gigante' will throw a tree at you and you can try and dodge yourself, but a button combo will appear at the bottom of the screen for example 'L+R!' and if you hit it Leon will dodge automatically for you.
If it grabs you, you can shake the joystick and tap a specific button to struggle out.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 12:50 AM
That is awsome. Hopefully i will be getting this tomorow. I printed out a picture of the case with the name on it and the money and put it all in an envelope. Hopefully ill get it tomorow.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 12:52 AM
hahahah she could just ask the assistant for help finding RE4 on the shelves too.

I can't wait for you to get it. I wanna hear your review.
I have, so far, NO complaints. Nothing at all.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 12:59 AM
Well it's wal mart so its behind glass but yeah i wanted to have all sides covered.
I cant wait to get it im gonna write my review as soon as i start playing which might be after 11 but ill do it for Resident Evil.
Shakezulah
Jan 13 2005, 01:01 AM
i dont have the game yet. my dad showed me a flyer of some electonics place by my house that just brought the game out today for just 40 bucks! i wish i could have gotten it. but my dad will get me my copy on his lunch break tomorrow so then will begin my 5 day hybernation stage. i will be doing nothing but playing that game. its gonna be great.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 01:01 AM
Damn right you will.
When you first get it, just put it in and don't touch it for a few mins. There's a 'demo' that plays that shows some really cool scenes including Leon knife fighting with some commando army dude.
Make sure you watch all the videos and intro and everything. It explains how umbrella was disbanded and leons new career and stuff. It's really amazing. Then you start in a forested path.
Make sure you shoot any crows, snakes, fish you see, they always drop items.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 01:02 AM
QUOTE(hereticdude666 @ Jan 12 2005, 08:01 PM)
i dont have the game yet. my dad showed me a flyer of some electonics place by my house that just brought the game out today for just 40 bucks! i wish i could have gotten it. but my dad will get me my copy on his lunch break tomorrow so then will begin my 5 day hybernation stage. i will be doing nothing but playing that game. its gonna be great.
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yaaa! awesome!
mine cost 69.99 which is a REALLY good price for a game of this high caliber. they could have charged 90 and i would have payed it.
Shakezulah
Jan 13 2005, 01:04 AM
o friggin awsome. tomorrow will be like THE LONGEST DAY OF MY LIFE! its gonna suck! until around 330 when my dad gets home of course. until then, ill have to hold out with Killzone.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 01:05 AM
The animals drop healing items or money and stuuf too?
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 01:09 AM
Yeah.
It looks silly at first, but it's really helpful. Gone are the days of searching in every nook for items. Now any items you find on the floor let of a big ring of light around them, kind of like a beacon in GTA SA. Red light for ammo, silver for valuables, green for healing etc etc. All you have to do is walk up to these lights and the A button will appear at the bottom of the screen saying 'take'. No kneeling or anything. Makes for much more fast paced action. I really like it it's a good system. Anything on tables and stuff you just walk up to and take.
If you shoot a crow or kill an enemy or something they usually drop things, then you just go and pick it up.
It's really cool i love this system. And it's the only un-realistic thing about the game.
Shakezulah
Jan 13 2005, 01:13 AM
yeah. bacuase the fact that theres a virus infecting people and making them go insane and making giant monsters is real.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 01:13 AM
I like that it's fast paced. Thats the one thing Resident Evil had to do that Silent Hill never ever should have done.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 01:26 AM
HD, it's suprisingly real in this game. You'll see.
I would like to direct your attentions to this article, it's the best i've read and covers everything in the game nicely with alot of praise.
game informer.
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200....1105.14613.htm
Shakezulah
Jan 13 2005, 01:32 AM
eh...im sure its a good article, but its too much to read....
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 01:35 AM
Your so lazy H Dude!
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 01:35 AM

Takes 8 mins to skim through it.
Shakezulah
Jan 13 2005, 01:40 AM
im sorry but thats just too much of my time to read. im really not in the mood for readong anyways. plus, i dont wana know anything else about the game than i already do.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 01:41 AM
Fair enough. I'll be quiet then, and only answer questions.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 01:56 AM
Wow that sounds intense. Burnside have you done the part where you have to take over ashley?
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 02:00 AM
No i have no yet played as her.
I'm dreading doing so because all reviews say she has AWFUL controls that make you beg to be back in leons shoes.
I've been protecting her for about 2 hours, over about 3 chapters, we penetrated a castle, i've been wondering around it for awhile, i stowed Ashley away in some small cupboard room and told her to stay there. I don't think they'll find her, but i'd prefer to not stray to far without her.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 02:04 AM
but if thats theonly complaints that really good. I cant wait for the first time i jump through a window or burn down a house. Im so excited.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 02:10 AM
You can't burn down huts, only the villagers can.
And they have to be huts that have no real significance, if you know what i mean. Tiny wooden shacks that stand ontop of the rest of the environment because they're destroyable whereas other houses aren't, get it? Kinda like the explosive barrels, but they're huts you can hide inside.
Jumping through windows is alot of fun. Especially second floor windows.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 02:13 AM
Why give you fire grenades if you cant burn down the houses.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 02:17 AM
They're for killing people!
If there's a crowd of 20 villagers runing towards you with sickles and pitchforks and dynamite, you damn well better have something to clear the lot of them, and burning them all in a cloud of firey death is rather satisfying.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 02:19 AM
I suppose a game cant have EVERYTHING but it does come close.
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 02:27 AM
Oooo you know what else is a marvelous improvement?
Now when you die you aren't forced back to the load screen to start from where you last saved, you actually can continue from the last time the game loaded. For example if you just watched a video and then died after the video, you'll go back to the end of that video when you continue. Your you'll go back to the last door you went through that involved loading. Awesome.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 02:29 AM
Speakingof loading. How are the load times?
BurnSide
Jan 13 2005, 02:33 AM
There are none.
Sometimes going through a door instead of pushing or slamming it open the screen will go black for a second while the next arena quickly loads, but gone are the slow door opening load times from room to room.
ChrisC098
Jan 13 2005, 02:37 AM
Good those annoy the crap out of me.
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