eric77
May 26 2004, 12:07 AM
I've had many dreams where I thought I took over the dream. When I was a child. and I had nightmares, I used to become 'aware', and if I said certain code words, an opening would appear in the floor. When I jumped in, I would fall to my bed, and wake up.
My ? is, can you really be concious in a dream? Or, is that experience just part of the dream - no more under your control than the flying turtle, or talking hamburger?
Can we really know?
The Gryphon
May 26 2004, 04:27 AM
We can, I've done it so much that I got bored with it, when you're my age you need your sleep. Dr. Stephen LeBerge is the guru of lucid dreaming and his techniques work. You just have to be patient and practice. Here's his website
www.lucidity.com
There is a lot of debate over whether an out of body experience is really a lucid dream ?????
either way they tend to be fun
AztecInca
May 26 2004, 08:47 AM
When I was younger I used to have these nightmares and I could literally change the surroundings of my dream to whatever I wanted and I would make my dream fun and happy again.It was so cool but I haven`t done that for ages and dreams are just dreams or are they??????.........
Athlon64
May 26 2004, 08:57 AM
Lucid dreams are amazing, but they don't happen often enough....or last long enough. I have been in the situation of trying to ascertain how close I am to waking up, which would suggest that they are more than simply mental constructs developed by the brain to sort out the stresses of the day ! I also remember walking through a forest glade in a lucid dream, and all of the colours were really vibrant and clear....far more than in a normal dream (which destroys the pathetic theory that all dreaming is done in black and white).
BabyBash82
May 26 2004, 09:23 AM
I don't know if I am having lucid dreams by definition, but I definately control myself and have emotional feelings in my dreams.
lightnownso
May 31 2004, 07:58 AM
yes, you can definitly take control over your licid dreams, but you need to be confident that you are dreaming and from now on you control it. They are very real and sometimes, I think most of the times they surprises us so much that we don't even have time to think about them. But if you frequently have those dream try to be aware and say to yoursel, this is a dream and i am going to control it.
But one thing you can do is ask yourself: what does this dream is telling me? I do believe that dream is one way your subconscious mind talks to you.
AncientLight
May 31 2004, 11:41 AM
I've always wanted too have a lucid dream , i'll go to that site & will check it out
If I could actually have a lucid dream that would just be priceless
moe eubleck
May 31 2004, 07:15 PM
Anyone who spends too much time dreaming will wake up someday, old and disoriented, and wonder how there life had passed them by.
If Moe ever obtains
lucidity , Moe will focus this on reality. let it be called
lucid waking. Life is too short to be walking around with your eyes closed.
NickFun
Jun 7 2004, 07:52 PM
I have lucid dreams at least once a week and I find them most enjoyable. I am aware of the fact that I am dreaming yet I can't - or don't want to - influence the content of the dream. In many of my dreams I am able to fly effortlessly. It seems very real at the time and I seem to have full cognitive functions yet I am aware that I am unable to do this while I am awake. A few night ago I was having a lucid dream - meaning that I was aware that I was dreaming - but I thought that my "real" body was sleeping on my late Uncle Bob's couch. I struggled to wake up so I wouldn't embarrass Uncle Bob. When I did wake up, of course, I was at home in bed feeling a bit foolish.
moe eubleck
Jun 7 2004, 08:06 PM
| QUOTE |
| many of my dreams I am able to fly effortlessly. ...yet I am aware that I am unable to do this while I am awake. |
I see how the knowledge of gravity has affected your wisdom. Moe would hate to see you end up like this:
NickFun
Jun 7 2004, 09:40 PM
Indeed that would have terrible conseuqences for my waking life!
haunted-one61
Jun 7 2004, 10:01 PM
| QUOTE (Athlon64 @ May 26 2004, 04:57 AM) |
I also remember walking through a forest glade in a lucid dream, and all of the colours were really vibrant and clear....far more than in a normal dream (which destroys the pathetic theory that all dreaming is done in black and white).
|
Makes you wonder about the moron(s) who came up with such a (PATHETIC, YES!) theory. Does anybody out there actually do any dreaming in black and white? I'll bet dogs DO see in color, too. Lucid dreaming is one of the most special things we have been given, I just haven't had one in almost a month now
The morons who say we only dream in black and white or that lucid dreaming does not exist are probably the same ones who say any type of paranormal or psychic phenomenon do not exist. Their ego will not allow them to admit "I don't know why that is" or " I can't explain that" so it's easier to say we're all crazy or making things up.
eric77
Jun 7 2004, 10:57 PM
I started this topic, and I am still wondering...
I know you can remember the lucid dream. I know you remember having control... and I know there is a memory of concious thought...
however, like a dream where you dreamt you woke up - yet you didn't really wake up - cant a lucid dream just be an illusion, where you dreamt you had control, really it's no different from other dreams?
Chauncy
Jun 8 2004, 12:17 AM
| QUOTE |
| however, like a dream where you dreamt you woke up - yet you didn't really wake up - cant a lucid dream just be an illusion, where you dreamt you had control, really it's no different from other dreams |
If you've ever experienced sleep paralysis you'll know what I'm talking about.
When I experience sleep paralysis it feels like there is a glitch in my sleep mechanism where I remain conscious while I enter deep sleep. This sounds like a contradiction but I truly believe this is the case.
Some studies have indicated that a fear mechanism is instituted in the endocrine system of the body when sleep paralysis occurs ( the old hag legends or the feeling of someone sitting on you), this sudden surge of fear prevents us from venturing further into this odd state of awareness.
I think that if we can try hard enough we may be able to over ride this fear mechanism and enter fully into this deep sleep while being fully aware of it. This realm may very well be the plain of consciousness that is the ultimate goal in meditation.
This may be the realm of lucid dreaming to which you refer.
http://www.angelfire.com/co/SleepParalysis...ucid/index.htmlhttp://www.arts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html
NickFun
Jun 9 2004, 02:32 AM
I have had lucid dreams where that happened. I dreamt that I needed to wake up because I might freeze to death if I didn't. I "woke up" and found myself sleeping on a park bench in the middle of winter. At this point I was no longer aware that I was dreaming. Then I found myself at a cold homeless shelter regretting my entire life. This was at a time when I was doing some work for the homeless. When I did wake up my room was freezing. Remind me to close the window before bed.
reese2
Jun 9 2004, 03:13 AM
Nick-
Are you going to have to be followed around??? Something tells me that you can lay it on thick, and have to be watched or you could spiral completely out of control, if left be....
Reese
flyinghigh23
Jun 9 2004, 08:37 AM
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I love lucid dreaming. I find that I'm able to fly and also make things fly towards me that I want (like an object that I don't want to pick up from far away). Basically, I have the force in my dreams, and if I dont like something that I'm experiencing, I say to a character in my dream, "I'm dreaming right? I can change that?" and even the characters agree with me and tell me I'm dreaming. I've also had dreams where I've told certain people that I want them to show up for the next few nights, and they have. Pretty cool. Oh yea, I also have a very strong sense of myself in these dreams, like I'll look down at my body and pay close attention to my sensations and then compare them to real life sensations. In the moment they seem indestinguishable.
NickFun
Jun 10 2004, 01:29 PM
Hey Reese! As one of my previous posts seems to have damaged my credibility so badly I shan't post again. As ludicrous as my claims seem, I stand behind them 100%. Take care! Nick
Britannica
Jun 13 2004, 01:44 PM
I really love it that I have lucid dreams, it's always made me feel a bit special for some reason, even though I know loads of other people do it.
As a very small child I had really bad nightmares all the time, and I couldn't wake up. Then somehow I started to be in control. I remember one dream where a big slimy monster was coming up the stairs, and I yelled at it that it was my dream and I wanted it to go away. I concentrated on what I wanted, and it happened, and then I spent the rest of the dream flying
I have also had a recuring dream where my little sister was in a swimming pool with a shark. I knew it was a dream but still felt compelled to save her, before allowing the shark to eat me so I could wake up (which also shows that the whole die in a dream, die in real life thing is bunkum!)
I dont have as many lucid dreams as I used to and that really annoys me, because I'm not very brave in real life and I used to love having this alternate world where I could do anything - no consequences
If I could learn to have them again I'd be SO happy...
moe eubleck
Jun 14 2004, 11:30 PM
| QUOTE |
| Hey Reese! As one of my previous posts seems to have damaged my credibility so badly I shan't post again. As ludicrous as my claims seem, I stand behind them 100%. Take care! Nick |
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