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Lottie
Police around the world are planning to monitor conversations on internet chat rooms so they can stop paedophiles from grooming their victims over the web.

The idea emerged at a summit in London of the Virtual Global Task Force, set up six months ago to make the internet safer for young people.

Police in the UK, US and Australia will make use of the different time zones to monitor the web 24 hours a day.

If a dialogue is potentially dangerous, officers may warn both online parties.

The National Crime Squad in the UK and the FBI in America are heading the effort to set up the full-time surveillance.

They are both involved in the Virtual Global Task Force, along with US Customs, the FBI, the Canadian Mounted Police, Australian Federal Police and Interpol.


The group, which aims to improve international policing of the internet, will reveal further details of the initiative on Wednesday.

One proposal is that a symbol may appear on computer screens to let chatroom users know that they are being overheard.

BBC crime correspondent Neil Bennett said police may then intervene if, for example, someone is being asked for their name and address.

He says the police are also stepping up efforts to persuade banks to withdraw credit cards from people who use them to pay for child pornography on websites.

Tink Palmer, policy officer at the children's charity Barnardo's, welcome the idea of monitoring chat rooms.

Police sting

She said if paedophiles knew their internet conversation was being observed by a police officer it could stop them "in their tracks".

"If we can get to people who are starting off along this road, then we can work with them before it becomes an ingrained pattern of behaviour.

"People say 'what about civil liberties?' but you have a virtual world out there - we have to police that to make it as safe as we can," she said.

John Carr, internet adviser to the children's charity NCH, said he hoped the idea would scare potential offenders.

"It is like undercover policing - the bad guys will not know when they are being monitored," he said.

The NSPCC's internet safety advisor Christine Atkinson said the project was an "important step forward in protecting children".

The National Crime Squad, which initiated the virtual task force, has worked in partnership with overseas agencies to combat paedophilia before, most notably on Operation Ore.


It has identified over 7,000 suspects and led to more than 1,200 convictions in the UK alone.

The operation also led to the development of the task force's international police sting, known as Operation Pin, last year.

Forces set up sites appearing to offer child pornography.

Users are told they could face 10 years in jail and may have their details circulated to 180 countries.

Source: BBC News


Talon
Just hope they don't go beyond paedophiles and start taking note of anyone whose ideas MI5 and 6 think are are dangers to social security, I mean it was only a decade ago that anarchists and socialists were having their mail opened before it was delivered to them, to see if they had links with the USSR etc.
doomgirl
its a good idea and about time thumbsup.gif
imorningsun
I am glad to see that this is making progress. After they catch these sickos, they need to castrate them!
moe eubleck
How about educating children to be more wary of chat rooms?
BurnSide
i'm with moe.
hello? don't just let your kids do whatever because the law will protect them. teach your stupid kids not to give out information on the web.
Druidus
Pedophiles should not be punished for doing something the are psychologically forced to do. What they need is extensive therapy. Many pedophiles grow up with unhappy childhoods, and in effect, never leave them. They stay attracted to those who are similar to what they used to get "crushes" for, because of psychological problems. Although genetic factors may pay a role, pedophilia is usually caused by childhood traumas, or other such things.
Stamford
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What they need is extensive therapy.


Agreed, however, I don't think it is possible for a peadophile to be 'cured' and I believe that they will always be a danger.

The options as far as I can see are that they should be locked up for good or 'tagged' so they can always be monitored.

Back to topic:

I wholeheartedly support the monitoring of these chat rooms if it stops even one peadophile from getting his/her hands on a child.

As Talon said, as long as it is used for these purposes and not for the monitoring of 'subversives' then it is a good thing.

However, I think we must assume that this kind of monitoring probably is already going on to a certain extent.
Lottie
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Pedophiles should not be punished for doing something the are psychologically forced to do.  What they need is extensive therapy.


I strongly strongly disagree with you. Pedophiles should be shot. There are far too many excuses for monsters such as this. Psychologicaliy forced to do? And that is an excuse? My arse. It is unnatural and not human to want to have sex and torture children and babies.What they do is horrific and dispicable and the only solution for these scumbags is the death penalty.
Falco Rex
Pedophilia is genetically predisposed just like hetero and homo-sexuality are. While they may not be able to stop themselves from wanting children, they can damn sure stop themselves from acting on it. Once that happens the only "Cure" is a bullet..
Daughter of the Nine Moons
QUOTE (Stamford @ Jun 11 2004, 06:33 AM)
However, I think we must assume that this kind of monitoring probably is already going on to a certain extent.

It is in Canada. The police go into a chat pretending that they are 13 year old girls, and within minutes they are inundated with inappropriate comments from 40 year olds pretending to be 14yrs.

And while the lawmen go roaming for the bad guys, here’s some tips to help ensure your kids stay safe at the O.K. Corral.

For Kids

1) Never give out personal information – your last name, your address, your location, the name of your school or your city or even your photograph to anyone you chat with online. They may not be who they claim to be.

2) Never arrange to meet anyone you’ve met in a chatroom, without first telling someone who you’re going to see, and where and when that meeting is taking place.

3) Always stay in public chat areas, where other people can see what’s happening.

4) Never open an attachment or download a file unless you’re sure about what it is and who sent it.

5) Never answer any message you find disturbing or odd. Save it, print it, log off, and tell an adult.


For Parents

1) Keep computers in a common area – like the living room, and monitor what your child is doing.

2) Establish firm guidelines about chatrooms. Print them off as a 'contract', and make your children sign them.

3) Become familiar with the chatrooms your children frequent.

4) Get to know the computer language shortcuts your kids may use – especially POS, for parent over shoulder.

5) Insist on ‘meeting’ their on-line friends, just as you would their school chums.

6) Make sure they come to see you if they encounter anything upsetting.

7) If you’re disturbed by what you - or they - have found, call the police.

source:pulse24.com



fulltimekiller
i support the idea of chat room monitoring Its not invasion of privacy or anything cause its on a public chat room where everyone can listen in.
Yea but i do think the cops are too hard on them cause its just a psychological problem (previous member mention it) I think they need some intense therapy.But we also need to protect the children so i think protection goes first.
mickyboy
paedophiles are the worst ailment this planet has, to prey on innocence is sick and they need to be taught a lesson, this country has a very strange sentencing strategy concerning paedophiles and i am disgusted by it, i have thought of alternatives


1. summary labotomy and left to roam the streets with a IM A NONCE tattoo in bright orange on the forehead

2. build a very large enclosure and daily ferry them in, bring all the victims and victims families and anyone else with a distaste of this scum and give each person a large stick with a big nail in the end, at the sound of the first bell each person must rush forward and nail as many as these things as possible, at the second bell everyone stops and a score is tallied, at the third bell its finish off the rest

3. send them into space and have them ejected in orbit so that they burn on re- thumbsup.gif

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Druidus
Are they not human? Do they not bleed when pricked, as do we? One thing that we could do, besides killing them, is to give them heavy doses of drugs that suppress sexual instincts. This would stop their urges. By killing them what are we proving? That we can be bloody and unmerciful, simply because another has problems that affect us? Regardless of what you think, it is caused by deep psychological problems, and therefore, is curable, but only through intense (probably lasting a whole lifetime) therapy.
mickyboy
a waste of resource and money, smoke the lot of em, let god sort em out


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Dowdy
If police are listening to us, then listen to them. Get a scanner and tune into their frequency thumbsup.gif
moe eubleck
interesting logic that. The police also have attack dogs helos, and submachine guns. Youd better stalk up dowdy.
Lottie
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By killing them what are we proving?  That we can be bloody and unmerciful, simply because another has problems that affect us?


I cannot believe I just read that. Do you know what a Pedophile actually is? How on earth can you seemingly be so blase about this. Try telling the thousands of parents who have lost their children to these monsters that because of these ******problems it has effected their lives and their child's future. These people are scum and they do not deserve to be allowed to roam this planet. The sooner they are killed the better.
mickyboy
I am in complete agreement with lottie, kill em all, when you talk about predisposition and they are mentally unwell your forgetting one thing that seperates me from you and us from them, its choice, plain and simple, we go through life making choices on a daily basis, its these choices that make us the people we are and its free will that is predisposed to us, paedophiles are a plague upon this planet and to say that they cant help themselves is complete and utter crap, they should make the choice to end their pathetic lives the minute their thought processes stray from the normal, kill all of them, I would gladly pitch each and every one off the planet
dAz
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Pedophiles should be shot.


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The sooner they are killed the better


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kill all of them


Lets try to avoid making remarks about wishing people dead, whatever they may be guilty of.

Ta muchly. thumbsup.gif
FLY SPITTA
Personally I think it's a good idea. I go on MSN chat every so often and sometimes the chat just gets out of control. No need to explain people know what I'm talking about. cool.gif
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