this concerns Napolean Bonapartes conquest in Egpyt.
A well noted incident occurred in one of the Pyramids at giza. Once in the burial chamber, Bonaparte asked he be left alone. He was left alone of course, and when he came out he was said to have been visibly shaken. When asked what had happened within the chamber he declined to answer saying "i wish to never talk of it again".
It isn't clear as to what happened once alone, but he chose to keep it a secret.
Near death it is claimed he came close to revealing what truly happened, but at the last moment declined again saying "you would never believe me".
Now...stuff like this truly bugs me. I really really really want to know what had happened in the chamber. Rumours say that he saw a vision of the future, or a vision of his own fate, as "all great men see their own destiny".
Anyone got any comments?
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Maybe he was afraid of the Dark?
You should go there yourself and find out.
You should go there yourself and find out.
I'd say anything that could shake up a megalomaniac like Napolean must have been pretty frightening..
Who's to say what happened. Although I've heard that he sat or laid down in the sarcophagus crypt in the Kings Chamber. Apparently it has some weird acoustic properties tied into the the structure of the King's Chamber. Might have been some amplified sound that scared him......and with the darkness of the chamber, that would've made it triply as scary.
yeah but surely if someone heard a noise, he would be willing to talk about it...? and that is kinda creepy that something could scare that guy
If you were Emperor of the largest most powerful nation on the planet at the time, would you tell anybody you were scared by "A Spooky Sound" ? 
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| If you were Emperor of the largest most powerful nation on the planet at the time, would you tell anybody you were scared by "A Spooky Sound" ? |
No, I'd have body guards with me figuring out wtf the sound was!
Hey all, thanks for the replies
The burial chamber was relatively small, completely stripped of anything valuable by grave robbers, even the body of the pharaoh was taken. All that was in the chamber was the empty sarcophagus which itself was damaged...but with a large enough hole for Napolean to fit in and lie down....may'be why he wanted to be alone? To lie down on a spot once where pharaohs rested, a spot reserved only for the great. He may have thought that anyone who saw him do this would think he was crazy or just a true megalomaniac, to the point that when he himself died he should be placed in a similar burial chamber to represent his greatness and might, as the Pharaohs once did by building huge shrines to themselves.
leading up to the chamber was a long narrow entrance, with torches on the walls to illuminate the ascent.
May'be the torches were somehow extinguished and he was left in total darkness? Who wouldn't be freaked by being alone in the dark in a huge pyramid? Possible answer why he didn't want to talk of it, this being a man who was seen as a great, strong leader not willing to admit he was spooked by something as meagre as the dark..only a guess, although there were a lot of torches, so very unlikely they all went out.
As he never told of what happened, a lot of guesses, theories and assumptions can be made, which makes it more interesting - yet harder to find the one true answer.
Some could even talk about "a mummys curse" and so on...
Any further thoughts?
The burial chamber was relatively small, completely stripped of anything valuable by grave robbers, even the body of the pharaoh was taken. All that was in the chamber was the empty sarcophagus which itself was damaged...but with a large enough hole for Napolean to fit in and lie down....may'be why he wanted to be alone? To lie down on a spot once where pharaohs rested, a spot reserved only for the great. He may have thought that anyone who saw him do this would think he was crazy or just a true megalomaniac, to the point that when he himself died he should be placed in a similar burial chamber to represent his greatness and might, as the Pharaohs once did by building huge shrines to themselves.
leading up to the chamber was a long narrow entrance, with torches on the walls to illuminate the ascent.
May'be the torches were somehow extinguished and he was left in total darkness? Who wouldn't be freaked by being alone in the dark in a huge pyramid? Possible answer why he didn't want to talk of it, this being a man who was seen as a great, strong leader not willing to admit he was spooked by something as meagre as the dark..only a guess, although there were a lot of torches, so very unlikely they all went out.
As he never told of what happened, a lot of guesses, theories and assumptions can be made, which makes it more interesting - yet harder to find the one true answer.
Some could even talk about "a mummys curse" and so on...
Any further thoughts?
The incident took place at a time when people were more superstitious and god-fearing than they are today. It is quite possible that Bonaparte simply got a case of the creeps.
Or perhaps he saw a ghost? Or a touch of claustrophobia? As has been mentioned, it would have been a tad embarrassing, for someone with the enormous ego of Bonaparte, to admit to being spooked.
Or perhaps he saw a ghost? Or a touch of claustrophobia? As has been mentioned, it would have been a tad embarrassing, for someone with the enormous ego of Bonaparte, to admit to being spooked.
He was nuts, he was also having brain degeneration due to a bad case of syphillis. He also took a few shots at the Sphynx while he was there and added some scarring to the face, thank you Mr. N.
But, even if he didn't want to say that he was scared of a noise, why would he tell his men that something scared him in the first place???
Whats interesting with Napoleon's invasion of Egypt is the similarities to Alexander the Greats adventures in Egypt.
http://1stmuse.com/frames/index.html
It would seem that Napoleon wanted to crown himself Pharoh. What ever scared him it might have had something to do with his aspirations.
Here's a rendition from a French publication of the era. Notice how burried the Sphinx is.
http://1stmuse.com/frames/index.html
It would seem that Napoleon wanted to crown himself Pharoh. What ever scared him it might have had something to do with his aspirations.
Here's a rendition from a French publication of the era. Notice how burried the Sphinx is.
lol why is he so tall? wasnt napolean short?
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| lol why is he so tall? wasnt napolean short? |
Since the rendition was from a French publication of the era, I'm sure nothing was done to impart any type of negative portrayl of the vindictive leader.
I'm sure that rendition is as he wanted it. http://www.exn.ca/napoleon/egypt.cfm
Hi all
Thanks
Napoleans hero was Alexander the Great, thanks for pointing that out, forgot to mention it.
I had no idea he had syphilis, or that he took a few shots at the sphinx.
Crazy guy that he was.
Thanks
Napoleans hero was Alexander the Great, thanks for pointing that out, forgot to mention it.
I had no idea he had syphilis, or that he took a few shots at the sphinx.
Crazy guy that he was.
This may be apropos of nothing but I remember hearing somewhere that Napolean had an extremely rare glandular condition that caused extreme estrogen levels. I heard that by the time he died in exile he had many physical characteristics of a woman..
Can anyone else confirm or deny this? I've never been able to find much on it..
Can anyone else confirm or deny this? I've never been able to find much on it..
| QUOTE (Joe013 @ Jun 14 2004, 11:54 PM) |
| lol why is he so tall? wasnt napolean short? |
I'd always assumed he was, but apparently, he wasn't that short for the time. He was 5'6", which by modern standards is a bit titchy for a guy, but he certainly wasn't the short-arse that popular history claims he was.
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| I heard that by the time he died in exile he had many physical characteristics of a woman.. Can anyone else confirm or deny this? I've never been able to find much on it.. |
I believe that this idea came from an interpretation out of Napoleon's biography where Comte Emmanuel de Las Cases wrote he "observes cheerfully that his hairless chest and prominent breasts - Napoleon is getting fat now - are 'not of our sex' "
He was a chubby middle aged man, we see these men at the beach and they do look like they have breasts....hehe. The hairlessness is probably a normal genetic thing, there was a guy at my highscholl who didn't grow any armpit hair just light colored hair.....we called him 'Fuzz'.
The general concensus on Napoleon's health is arsenic poisoning, as this was used to treat many ailments in the past.
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| Eyewitnesses described over 30 typical symptoms of arsenical intoxication, the Harwell Nuclear Research Laboratory, in London, England, and the FBI, in Washington, confirmed the following and I quote "The amount of arsenic present in the submitted hairs is consistent with arsenic poisoning." It is a fact that doctors, during Napoleon's days, as doctors today, could be confused about Napoleon's death if only 2 or 3 symptoms are taken separately. It could give them the impression that Napoleon was suffering from scurvy, hepatitis, etc. However, once all of the symptoms are gathered together, they are identical to a list of symptoms that can be found in any modern book on toxicology, where arsenic intoxication is described |
Ive heard about this before and actually watched a documentary about it on the discovery channel. Who knows what he saw, to say something actually frightened Napoleon well thats hard to believe because he was supposed to be a courageous man heck if war didn't scare him the it's hard to tell what in the world he saw.
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