. OK, if reincarnation really is so, why do we not remember our past lives? If we did remember (and I'm talkin' a full blown memory type thing) what would be possible reprecussions(sp?) of that?
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I have a question that I would like for you people to dissect . OK, if reincarnation really is so, why do we not remember our past lives? If we did remember (and I'm talkin' a full blown memory type thing) what would be possible reprecussions(sp?) of that?
. OK, if reincarnation really is so, why do we not remember our past lives? If we did remember (and I'm talkin' a full blown memory type thing) what would be possible reprecussions(sp?) of that?
If we could remember?
Well, have you ever seen Family Guy? Think of Stewie.
We'd all be intelligent talking babies and instead of growing up and sharing life experiences with loved ones, we'd talk about our past life expirences!
'Yeah, well, 432875 past lives ago i was a TYRANNOSAURS yo!!'
We don't remember, if they do indeed exist, because the memory is stored not in the spirit, but in the living brain. And when the body dies, so does the brain and the memory of life.
Well, have you ever seen Family Guy? Think of Stewie.
We'd all be intelligent talking babies and instead of growing up and sharing life experiences with loved ones, we'd talk about our past life expirences!'Yeah, well, 432875 past lives ago i was a TYRANNOSAURS yo!!'
We don't remember, if they do indeed exist, because the memory is stored not in the spirit, but in the living brain. And when the body dies, so does the brain and the memory of life.
Thats why I cant figure out how we're the same person. Its the memory that makes the person. You can clone yourself but ur clone will be completely different than you because he lives a different life than you.
Why can we not have a spiritual memory as well as a physical memory?
Accually, there are cases of seemingly past life memories that were saved in "spirit memory".
What would the point of reincarnation be though? Why would the creation of souls just suddenly stop? (assuming all this is real)
Could it, possibly, bear with me... be a kind of cellular memory? Something in our junk DNA or something, which gives us this memory, which is passed down through each generation?
Could it, possibly, bear with me... be a kind of cellular memory? Something in our junk DNA or something, which gives us this memory, which is passed down through each generation?
I posted a theory that could explain it. I don't feel like reposting it so if you want to read it got to "My thoughts on ghosts"
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| Well, have you ever seen Family Guy |
You rock. Me, my husband and our best friend have a mon-thur nightly ritual of watching that. I was going to start another thingy about the god that Bender meets in Futurama but...
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| instead of growing up and sharing life experiences with loved ones, we'd talk about our past life expirences! |
That's kinda what I was thinking. Like, if you had a good experience in a past life but this life sucked, all you would do is sit and fester about how horrible it is now, and vice versa. If you have a good life now but had a shitty one in the past, you might just sit and whine about how bad it used to be. Just a thought...
heheh.
we would all be stewies, arrghh!!
and think about this! what if we woke up, being of course, born, and saying:
'eww! what ugly parents i'll have in this life! screw that!' and then you could commit suicide, and move on to your next life. hahahah. weird, but hey, if we could remember past lives and knew they existed, why not!?
we would all be stewies, arrghh!!
and think about this! what if we woke up, being of course, born, and saying:
'eww! what ugly parents i'll have in this life! screw that!' and then you could commit suicide, and move on to your next life. hahahah. weird, but hey, if we could remember past lives and knew they existed, why not!?
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| What would the point of reincarnation be though? Why would the creation of souls just suddenly stop? (assuming all this is real) |
Your looking at it from a conventional point of view. Imagine, for a moment, that there are many realms and that in each realm you reincarnate. You may reincarnate as anything, on any planet. The point of reincarnation is to learn enough to move through the realms, and eventually reach a "heaven-like realm" in which you achieve pure bliss. That's my view on the world.
If you'd like my crackpot opinion I go into it in detail on the pinned topic but basically I believe your consciousness moves on to wherever it goes to after death, while the energy that animates you is absorbed back into some sort of collective energy pool,call it "God" if you will..
This collected energy generates new souls. Since that energy lives with people their whole life it can't help but absorb some of their intelligence and memories. Sometimes people will recall some of a "Past Life," but it's not really their past life and it's not the same soul. It's merely a fragment of memory left over in what ever piece of the collective energy that person was born with. This explains why some people have past life memories and others do not..
It also solves one problem standard Reincarnation theories can't. With the population increasing where would new souls come from if we're all being recycled?
The answer to me is that we aren't of course, we're merely using bits and pieces of energy that others have already posessed. The soul you posess now is uniquely yours and will never be owned by another. But a thousand years from now maybe someone will use your cast off energy and gain a small fragment of your memory, and maybe they'll think they were you in a past life just like some believe now..
Oh well, that's just my point of view..
This collected energy generates new souls. Since that energy lives with people their whole life it can't help but absorb some of their intelligence and memories. Sometimes people will recall some of a "Past Life," but it's not really their past life and it's not the same soul. It's merely a fragment of memory left over in what ever piece of the collective energy that person was born with. This explains why some people have past life memories and others do not..
It also solves one problem standard Reincarnation theories can't. With the population increasing where would new souls come from if we're all being recycled?
The answer to me is that we aren't of course, we're merely using bits and pieces of energy that others have already posessed. The soul you posess now is uniquely yours and will never be owned by another. But a thousand years from now maybe someone will use your cast off energy and gain a small fragment of your memory, and maybe they'll think they were you in a past life just like some believe now..
Oh well, that's just my point of view..
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Your looking at it from a conventional point of view. Imagine, for a moment, that there are many realms and that in each realm you reincarnate. You may reincarnate as anything, on any planet. The point of reincarnation is to learn enough to move through the realms, and eventually reach a "heaven-like realm" in which you achieve pure bliss. That's my view on the world. |
I didnt mean stop literally, I meant it as an extreeme example to show what I mean. Why was it at one point that every new life was a new soul, and then suddenly every new life here on the Earth is a reused soul? Or if you think theres still new souls, what cancelled the creation of new souls?
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| With the population increasing where would new souls come from if we're all being recycled? |
Plants and other worlds.
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| Your looking at it from a conventional point of view. Imagine, for a moment, that there are many realms and that in each realm you reincarnate. You may reincarnate as anything, on any planet. The point of reincarnation is to learn enough to move through the realms, and eventually reach a "heaven-like realm" in which you achieve pure bliss. That's my view on the world. |
Pure bliss: what do you mean by this? And realms, is that the same as dimensions?
I hope that one day i can sit around with all of the friends I've made throughout my lives, smoke a bowl while bullshitting about what we've done in our past lives.
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I want a little Stewie in a bottle that I can carry around with me. I'd make him come back with all the smart ass comments I might need.
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| Plants and other worlds |
At some point even other worlds(assuming they even have intelligent life) would have had a tiny population as the dominant species started out. That still doesn't explain the discrepency...
Plants?
i guess for the most part many of us don't.
about a couple of months ago there was a story on abc's 20/20 about a 6 yr old boy who seems to remember a past life.
since he was two he had nightmares about being trapped in a plane and he would tell his parents, "the man can't get out"
he was always drawn to planes and especially wwII american planes. he would identify a certain make,(can't remember which one) and would know the specs on the plane and his parents swore he hadn't seen any war books or movies.
by age 4 he was talking about an aircraft carrier, name escapes me again, and naming people on it.
his dad who didn't believe such things finally did some research, found the aircraft carrier, confirmed the names the boy had told him, and then asked the boy who he thought he was, the boy told him james, and sure enough some of the old navy pilots who were still alive confirmed a pilot named james had gone down over an island in the south pacific and his plane had crashed into the ocean, and the body never recovered.
there were other very specific things the boy recalled which no one but those who served ont he ship knew.
it really seemed the boy had been a pilot in the pacific in wwII, and had died a traumatic death.
maybe it takes that type of death to rememeber anything, but then millions have died traumatic deaths and only a few talk about past lives.
i also remember reading a story in the fortean times about an indian man who died and then regained consciousness in another body, that of a much younger man miles away in another indian village.
maybe, some are able to keep the imprint of the past life with them when they pass, and for the most part, the rest of us don't.
about a couple of months ago there was a story on abc's 20/20 about a 6 yr old boy who seems to remember a past life.
since he was two he had nightmares about being trapped in a plane and he would tell his parents, "the man can't get out"
he was always drawn to planes and especially wwII american planes. he would identify a certain make,(can't remember which one) and would know the specs on the plane and his parents swore he hadn't seen any war books or movies.
by age 4 he was talking about an aircraft carrier, name escapes me again, and naming people on it.
his dad who didn't believe such things finally did some research, found the aircraft carrier, confirmed the names the boy had told him, and then asked the boy who he thought he was, the boy told him james, and sure enough some of the old navy pilots who were still alive confirmed a pilot named james had gone down over an island in the south pacific and his plane had crashed into the ocean, and the body never recovered.
there were other very specific things the boy recalled which no one but those who served ont he ship knew.
it really seemed the boy had been a pilot in the pacific in wwII, and had died a traumatic death.
maybe it takes that type of death to rememeber anything, but then millions have died traumatic deaths and only a few talk about past lives.
i also remember reading a story in the fortean times about an indian man who died and then regained consciousness in another body, that of a much younger man miles away in another indian village.
maybe, some are able to keep the imprint of the past life with them when they pass, and for the most part, the rest of us don't.
The theory goes that memories and experiences are stored in the Akashic Record (I think that's how you spell it.)
Yep that is the right spelling,
The Akashic records theory quite easily covers the 'past life memorys' phenominon without needing there to be actual reincarnation. The memorys and personalitys of those past people still being a part of our collective subconsious means that all it would take is for an individual to have an affinity with a particular person in the past and subconsiously access that record.... which would seem to them to be memorys of another life.
It also accounts for the fact that you get dozens of people claiming to be the reincarnation of notable people such as cleopatra or napolion for every one who claims to have had a past life as Hose smith the one legged sheep farmer. The higer profile of popularised people will automaticaly draw more people to it than someone whom history has basicaly forgotten, therefore more people develop an affinity with it and access it.... leading to them thinking it wwas their past life! (Thats only dealing with those who actualy do have access to memorys rather than the far mor prevelent flights of fancy by the over imaganitive and cynical fraudsters)
Note that if the Akashic theory is true, it doesn't preclude the existance of reincarnation, it just means that proof of past memorys is not proof of reincarnation.
Personaly I do believe that a portion of the energy that makes us who we are, can end up in another life after our death, but that we take neither memory nor personality with us.... we may have more of an affinity with that past life in the Akashic than anyone else but thats all.
The Akashic records theory quite easily covers the 'past life memorys' phenominon without needing there to be actual reincarnation. The memorys and personalitys of those past people still being a part of our collective subconsious means that all it would take is for an individual to have an affinity with a particular person in the past and subconsiously access that record.... which would seem to them to be memorys of another life.
It also accounts for the fact that you get dozens of people claiming to be the reincarnation of notable people such as cleopatra or napolion for every one who claims to have had a past life as Hose smith the one legged sheep farmer. The higer profile of popularised people will automaticaly draw more people to it than someone whom history has basicaly forgotten, therefore more people develop an affinity with it and access it.... leading to them thinking it wwas their past life! (Thats only dealing with those who actualy do have access to memorys rather than the far mor prevelent flights of fancy by the over imaganitive and cynical fraudsters)
Note that if the Akashic theory is true, it doesn't preclude the existance of reincarnation, it just means that proof of past memorys is not proof of reincarnation.
Personaly I do believe that a portion of the energy that makes us who we are, can end up in another life after our death, but that we take neither memory nor personality with us.... we may have more of an affinity with that past life in the Akashic than anyone else but thats all.
I posted something along the lines of what Fenris just said earlier without using the word "Akashic Record." That was before I'd read the explanation of what that was exactly. Now that I know the name for it, it falls neatly into place..
By way of example, I'm going to do something that I rarely do and share a personal experience..
My friends and I once knew a Woman who claimed to be able to read past lives. I was told that I was the reincarnation of the Emperor Tiberius. Somehow, I failed to be amazed. While we do share an overall gloomy and cynical disposition, and I've always been fascinated with Rome, I highly doubt that a former ruler of the world would be happy with an existence as a New Hampshire Truck Driver.
Believers in standard reincarnation theories would use the similarity between our natures to say that Woman was correct about me I beg to differ..
It seems far more likely that I would identify with strong personality archtype left in the Akashic Record than the possibility that I used to be somebody famous..
Like it was said before, there can't be 500 Napoleans walking around at one time..
By way of example, I'm going to do something that I rarely do and share a personal experience..
My friends and I once knew a Woman who claimed to be able to read past lives. I was told that I was the reincarnation of the Emperor Tiberius. Somehow, I failed to be amazed. While we do share an overall gloomy and cynical disposition, and I've always been fascinated with Rome, I highly doubt that a former ruler of the world would be happy with an existence as a New Hampshire Truck Driver.
Believers in standard reincarnation theories would use the similarity between our natures to say that Woman was correct about me I beg to differ..
It seems far more likely that I would identify with strong personality archtype left in the Akashic Record than the possibility that I used to be somebody famous..
Like it was said before, there can't be 500 Napoleans walking around at one time..
Hmmm this is true.
Although I've been fascinated by Past lives, never had any regression or readings done..
I know I'm not going to find a Cleopatra or Boudicca. That's not why I've not had it done..
But find out about ordinary people would be to my mind more fascinating
Although I've been fascinated by Past lives, never had any regression or readings done..
I know I'm not going to find a Cleopatra or Boudicca. That's not why I've not had it done..
But find out about ordinary people would be to my mind more fascinating
There's no reason you shouldn't have it done. It would be fun if nothing else. And the off chance there just might be something to it makes it worth doing..
Bring a friend though, you should never be hypnotized alone for obvious reasons..
Bring a friend though, you should never be hypnotized alone for obvious reasons..
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| I didnt mean stop literally, I meant it as an extreeme example to show what I mean. Why was it at one point that every new life was a new soul, and then suddenly every new life here on the Earth is a reused soul? Or if you think theres still new souls, what cancelled the creation of new souls? |
Alright I'll explain my beliefs. We all come from the highest realm, called "The Source". To make an analogy, it's a giant flame and it's sparks are our souls, whilst it's embers are the other realms. We are thrown into the lowest realm, and made to reincarnate and learn until we get higher and higherin the realms. Eventually we may become Gods (not really, we wouldn't be immortal, just means we could affect the lower realms). Eventually we reach The Source and we live there, in the perfect realm, for quite a time. It's very pleasant. Eventually though, we are cast out again into the lowest realm, to live and experience the realms again, learning more and more. The Source can supply souls if they are needed. You could also think of the source as a raincloud. Raindrops are souls and puddles are realms. Also, the reason overpopulation exists is because of extinction of other animals and plants. The souls need to go somewhere and they go to us, as well as the 10 Billion livestock animals. That's my view.
Well, the real thing I have a problem with in reincarnation is the whole soul thing. In the beginning, when life was beginning, the first beings/planets/animals whatever were created with their own soul right? then the next generation is created the same way, and the one after is created the same way... but now, why did the first generation's souls get created, and later on, those souls just occupied the new bodies? What happened to the soul that was in that body?
Now... while we're still talking about reincarnation... let me propose something new... maybe there is only 1 soul...
Now... while we're still talking about reincarnation... let me propose something new... maybe there is only 1 soul...
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| also accounts for the fact that you get dozens of people claiming to be the reincarnation of notable people such as cleopatra or napoleon |
hmmmm. And here Moe thought that this was narcissism.
oh, to be important.
I like the theory of the Gaia. It was made popular by FF, but has been around since the ancient chinese.
Bascially, everything has a spirit. The blades of grass we walk on. The pebbles on the beach. The mountains and the trees in the forest, and yes, the earth itself. The earths spirit is called the Gaia, and it is not merly one spirit, but many millions of spirits forming a collective.
When something on the earth is created, such as a seed or a baby, a spirit is plucked from the Gaia and when this thing dies it returns to the Gaia. So the spirit is constantly reincarnated.
Bascially, everything has a spirit. The blades of grass we walk on. The pebbles on the beach. The mountains and the trees in the forest, and yes, the earth itself. The earths spirit is called the Gaia, and it is not merly one spirit, but many millions of spirits forming a collective.
When something on the earth is created, such as a seed or a baby, a spirit is plucked from the Gaia and when this thing dies it returns to the Gaia. So the spirit is constantly reincarnated.
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| Well, the real thing I have a problem with in reincarnation is the whole soul thing. In the beginning, when life was beginning, the first beings/planets/animals whatever were created with their own soul right? then the next generation is created the same way, and the one after is created the same way... but now, why did the first generation's souls get created, and later on, those souls just occupied the new bodies? What happened to the soul that was in that body? Now... while we're still talking about reincarnation... let me propose something new... maybe there is only 1 soul... |
Perhaps the bodies were created first?
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| I like the theory of the Gaia. It was made popular by FF, but has been around since the ancient chinese. Bascially, everything has a spirit. The blades of grass we walk on. The pebbles on the beach. The mountains and the trees in the forest, and yes, the earth itself. The earths spirit is called the Gaia, and it is not merly one spirit, but many millions of spirits forming a collective. When something on the earth is created, such as a seed or a baby, a spirit is plucked from the Gaia and when this thing dies it returns to the Gaia. So the spirit is constantly reincarnated. |
I believe in Gaia, in a slightly modified way.
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| Plants? |
OK, this is one of my little things I think, I guess it's kinda like the Gaia thing; I hadn't heard of that until now.
OK, lightening strikes, hits the ground (yes I know that what we see of lightening comes from the ground up, but the initial charge comes from up above) and where does that energy go? In the ground, into good old Mother Earth. Where does that energy go? Plants.
I also think there's more to storms than just rain and thunder and lightening; storms have a karma also.
If you've ever sat in an area that has a lot of plants in it, if you paid attention you should have felt a kind of vibe coming from them. Plants have karma too.
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| It also accounts for the fact that you get dozens of people claiming to be the reincarnation of notable people such as cleopatra or napolion |
Does anyone know if these peoples' stories ever match up exactly?
Oh yeah, who's FF?
It's Final Fantasy. The movie, The Spirits Within, is all about the Gaia.
I thought Final Fantasy was a video game? There's a movie called that? Is it animated or real people?
It was in cinemas. Animated. It didn't do that well, but the animation was AMAZING! Far better than Shrek.
Anyway, it wasn't about reincanation, just that the world had a spirit called the Gaia that was being attacked and they had to save it.
Anyway, it wasn't about reincanation, just that the world had a spirit called the Gaia that was being attacked and they had to save it.
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| Anyway, it wasn't about reincanation, just that the world had a spirit called the Gaia that was being attacked and they had to save it. |
Spiffy.
I'll have to rent that one.Does anyone know of a really good link for that Gaia syuff?
http://www.oceansonline.com/gaiaho.htm
This isn't the exact same Gaia theory that i was talking about, but it is the gaia theory in which the earth is believed to be alive and have it's own spirit. Good read if you have an hour to spare.
This isn't the exact same Gaia theory that i was talking about, but it is the gaia theory in which the earth is believed to be alive and have it's own spirit. Good read if you have an hour to spare.
When people always talk about reincarnation, they sometimes bring up past lives. But they only ever bring up past human lives. Ive never heard someone say, when I was a bird, or a mouse, or a plant. Although I do know that belief is out there.
The thing that dosent make sense to me about reincarnation is that, lets say only humans reincarnated. Right now theres app. 6 billion people that live on the planet. Whereas thousands of years ago there was, mayby 1-2 billion. Where did all the extra reincarnated spirits come from? It would seem some people would have tons of past lives, where as others wouldnt have any. This seems to be a bit of a paradox, how do you explain that??
The thing that dosent make sense to me about reincarnation is that, lets say only humans reincarnated. Right now theres app. 6 billion people that live on the planet. Whereas thousands of years ago there was, mayby 1-2 billion. Where did all the extra reincarnated spirits come from? It would seem some people would have tons of past lives, where as others wouldnt have any. This seems to be a bit of a paradox, how do you explain that??
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| The thing that dosent make sense to me about reincarnation is that, lets say only humans reincarnated. Right now theres app. 6 billion people that live on the planet. Whereas thousands of years ago there was, mayby 1-2 billion. Where did all the extra reincarnated spirits come from? It would seem some people would have tons of past lives, where as others wouldnt have any. This seems to be a bit of a paradox, how do you explain that?? |
No paradox at all. Think about it. Humans caused all sorts of animals to go extinct, what with the habitat loss and hunting and such. It's still going on even. Because of this there are less non-humans to incarnate into. Also, I would take it with a grain of salt when people recount their past lives. You can't know for sure without a very experienced person to help you. And people who say they haven't had any, just don't remember them.
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| When people always talk about reincarnation, they sometimes bring up past lives. But they only ever bring up past human lives. Ive never heard someone say, when I was a bird, or a mouse, or a plant. Although I do know that belief is out there. |
The basis behind Druidry is that all beings are equal, and equally likely to be re-incarnated into. That tree behind your house may be your great grandmother. Your new boyfriend, could be your old pet dog. The underlying point is to treat all beings as if they are you. You may have been relatives. On the otherhand...
The cat that used to crap all over the house
could be your new boss! 
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lol!
I'm afraid I don't know much about Druidism on the whole, but any Religion based on respect is good in my book..
I'm still sticking with my own personal crackpot theory on Reincarnation though..
I'm still sticking with my own personal crackpot theory on Reincarnation though..
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| Where did all the extra reincarnated spirits come from? It would seem some people would have tons of past lives, where as others wouldnt have any. This seems to be a bit of a paradox, how do you explain that?? |
OK...Here's how it is to me. Bear with me now.
If any of you have ever taken real care of plants, treated them almost like family, you'll know what I'm talking about...
When you take care of a plant, it's almost like taking care of a child. When you first get a plant you have to take really, really good care of it (depending on what kind of plant it is, I forget the technical name) and treat it almost like a child. Of course you don't have the screaming fits but anyways... You have to aerate the soil, make sure it gets the proper amount of sunlight , the proper amount of water, the proper amount of nutriens, etc. Then as it starts to come out of shock you can stop paying such close attention to it; and once your plant is established it doesn't need such close care Of course there are the exceptions; the plants that need very close care constantly.
That's kind of like people. You have your children and as infants you have to nurse them, change their diaper, burp them, feed them, etc., etc. Then the older they get, the less you take care of them.They're like a way more complex version of plants.
I think that there are people that come from this Mother Earth and they have to evolve through the different stages of life. There's plants, you've got bugs, then you've got animals, and you've got humans. It's a process.
Then I think there are spirits that didn't originat on this earth. There are visitors that just want to experience this world and there are people that are sent here with a purpose. Kind of like natural born citizens vs. immigrants. or like, how America went and captured Sadam Hussein and he is now in our prision system. Some peoples' lives are a living hell on earth and that's their prision.
Druidus,
So then, does every blade of grass, every bacteria,algae,and fungus reincarnate also then????What about parisities, and viruses, like HIV, do they reincarnate when they die also???
So then, does every blade of grass, every bacteria,algae,and fungus reincarnate also then????What about parisities, and viruses, like HIV, do they reincarnate when they die also???
What's with all the question marks? One for each question would do...
Anyways, the answers:
Why shouldn't they? According to my religion, if it lives it has a soul. And to have a soul means to re-incarnate. Viruses, are techically not alive (they cannot reproduce without hijacking a host's cell) and so there is room for debate on them, but parasites, bacteria, algae, fungus', parasites, and grass do have souls. They live and so they have souls. They are no less worthy of life then a man or a dog, bird or bat.
To MoonBaby:
Have you tried communicating with a plant? I have performed telepathy with a tree, and this is why I am sure they have souls. Please do not dismiss me as a person who would try to impress people with false tales. I am not lying. It is possible, and if you wish to know how, then merely ask.
Anyways, the answers:
Why shouldn't they? According to my religion, if it lives it has a soul. And to have a soul means to re-incarnate. Viruses, are techically not alive (they cannot reproduce without hijacking a host's cell) and so there is room for debate on them, but parasites, bacteria, algae, fungus', parasites, and grass do have souls. They live and so they have souls. They are no less worthy of life then a man or a dog, bird or bat.
To MoonBaby:
Have you tried communicating with a plant? I have performed telepathy with a tree, and this is why I am sure they have souls. Please do not dismiss me as a person who would try to impress people with false tales. I am not lying. It is possible, and if you wish to know how, then merely ask.
Do any of you differintiate between a soul and a spirit or are those one and the same for you?
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I have to disagree on this one. I think that those are just flaws in the Matrix.
Not really, I think they're checks and balances. They help keep all of the living things from overpopulating the Earth.Venom,
Why so pissy? Be happy, dude!
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| To MoonBaby: Have you tried communicating with a plant? I have performed telepathy with a tree, and this is why I am sure they have souls. Please do not dismiss me as a person who would try to impress people with false tales. I am not lying. It is possible, and if you wish to know how, then merely ask. |
Nope, haven't tried communicating with one before. Hadn't really ever thought of it 'till now. How did it go down?
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| I have to disagree on this one. I think that those are just flaws in the Matrix. Not really, I think they're checks and balances. They help keep all of the living things from overpopulating the Earth. |
Fungus, algae and grass are all living plants, that you can see pretty much wherever you go. Bacteria and parasites are also alive although I suppose there would be room for debate over bacteria as well. The way I see it, to live you need a soul, and without one, you would be a virus. Preying off of those who do have souls.
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Pretty much the same IMHO.
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I found an old oak tree, and proceeded to just sit down, resting against it. For awhile I just sat there, taking in the scenery. Soon though, I started some heartbeat meditation. You just need to visualize your heart beating and keep feeling the beat, and then try and feel it all over your body. After sinking deep into meditation, I was aware of another beat. There were two! I almost left my meditative trance, but instead focused on the second beat. It sounded deep and hollow. A couple seconds later and I was hit with this amazing since of age! It was like standing naked in a blizzard for a few seconds and then jumping into a hotspring. I felt the world from the trees perspective. I felt the sky, I felt the rays (in a way I've never felt before), I felt myself leaning against the tree. It was a feeling of serenity, of wisdom. Then later that day, I had to go home to Iqaluit. No trees here. When I go down south this summer, I plan to extensively document these and try different trees. But I'm telling you, this was the best moment in my life.
What's IMHO?
In My Humble Opinion
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| Man made alcohol, God made cannibas. Which one do you trust? |
God also made arsenic... But anyway, alcohol is found in nature. I trust them both. Doesn't really hurt anyone. More deaths through alcohol then marijuana.
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| In My Humble Opinion QUOTE Man made alcohol, God made cannibas. Which one do you trust? God also made arsenic... But anyway, alcohol is found in nature. I trust them both. Doesn't really hurt anyone. More deaths through alcohol then marijuana. |
Ah ha. Gottcha.
Where is alcohol found in nature? And, can you ingest it straight from nature or do you have to distill it or other fun stuff to be able to consume it? Arsenic was made for other purposes. I really don't believe in God either, I just saw that saying in a magazine and liked it. It made me laugh. It didn't use the word cannibas though...
The type of alcohol that we normally drink, beer, wine, vodka (which means "little water" in Russian by the way 
) is heavily modified from natural alcohol. Alcohol can be found wherever something is fermenting. What we do is take the alcohol and mix, modify and combine, to make certain tastes. Alcohol in nature could be drunk but it would taste very bad. I too do not believe in the Christian "God". I have my own.
) is heavily modified from natural alcohol. Alcohol can be found wherever something is fermenting. What we do is take the alcohol and mix, modify and combine, to make certain tastes. Alcohol in nature could be drunk but it would taste very bad. I too do not believe in the Christian "God". I have my own.
OK, then what is rubbing alcohol?
I'm not sure how we got here from reincarnation...
OK, another question. When lightening strikes the ground, where does all of that energy dissipate to?
I just got done reading that Gaia link, and I think it sounds pretty plausible for the most part. One of the things I had a hard time grasping though is the part that said how Gaia reproduces. I mean, I understand the words, I just don't comprehend how that counts as reproducing. Can anyone explain?
I just got done reading that Gaia link, and I think it sounds pretty plausible for the most part. One of the things I had a hard time grasping though is the part that said how Gaia reproduces. I mean, I understand the words, I just don't comprehend how that counts as reproducing. Can anyone explain?
Me either lol.
Anyway rubbing alcohol is known also as Isopropyl alcohol.
Rubbing alcohol is composed of C3H8O as the picture below will show you.
Many alcohols can be created by fermentation of fruits or grains with yeast, but only ethanol is commercialy produced this way, chiefly for fuel and drink. Other alcohols are generally produced by synthetic routes from natural gas, oil, or coal feedstocks.
Anyway rubbing alcohol is known also as Isopropyl alcohol.
Rubbing alcohol is composed of C3H8O as the picture below will show you.
Many alcohols can be created by fermentation of fruits or grains with yeast, but only ethanol is commercialy produced this way, chiefly for fuel and drink. Other alcohols are generally produced by synthetic routes from natural gas, oil, or coal feedstocks.
OK, bear with me here. I'm confused. You said alcohol can be found naturally right? Well... what kind of increments are we talking. Like can you find a kegs worth of alcohol in one spot or is it more like a tablespoon?
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