And on that note, SH4 had to little. The guns were pretty much useless, so all you had was melee's, and they sucked too. SH2 and SH1 had a perfect range between melees and guns.

Here here.

Also, the controlls were fiddly and it was slow to start.

I hated SH4's controls. The 2D silliness may work for FF or the like, but it doesn't fit in a survival horror game. I hope the next one goes back to normal 3D movement.

Yeah in SH4 all you need is the axe and your set for the rest of the game.

And that's pretty much all i used the whole game.

Yeah me too. It's pretty much the second powerful weapon in the game.

I did use the revolver with a couple silver bullets on some of the harder bosses though, like that guy you had to kill in the Water Prison.
I HATED how limited the inventory was.

Yeah you could hold a gun a clip a melee weapon and you still didnt have enough room for all theitems you needed.

I hope the next installment will go back to having an infinite inventory system. It's just more fun, regardless of realism.

Yeah really I want unlimited space so i can bring more than 5 bullets.

i too have been using the axe, and that inventory sucks big time, i find my self in a rut over and over again, one time ill bring 2 clips and end up with not enough inventory, or one time i wont bring any clips and not need any of my inventory....took me a minute to realize i could give eileen her bag as a weapon too....i found out after i found the riding crop

Mmmm.... yeah, unlimited inventory, but in real time. I hate to pause the game to equip a better weapon. And if you don't want to use a health bar, how about the Dual Shock? Remember, in 3, when you were weak the controller started to shake. That was sweet!
Oh! and bring the axe back! It ruled!!

I hated the inventory but loved the part where you couldn't get back through the forest with the key. That was awesome. I was stuck for like a half hour.

Really? Why did u hate the inventory: because you had to go back to your room?

I hated the inventory too. Real-time inventories suck, especially ones as limited as that.

The SH3 inventory was brilliant. I really liked that you could equip a health drink so you didn't need to go to the menu to use one.

lol i know exactly what your talking about, took me forever to figure that one out

I saw the tree by blind luck, and then realised that i was going over and over again and not going anywhere. The key said something like you'd walk forever with it, so it was pretty obvious you couldn't return with it.
Very basic SH/RE puzzle.

I know but I was very tired and just kept walking, thinking it was supposed to freak me out.

How could you do that? I dunno

Easily.
There's three levels to the inventory right? The top level, for items, clothes etc. The second level, for guns etc. And the third level, for ammo, health items, etc.

You can equip any of the items on the third level the same way you equip guns. Except it gets equiped to the R3 button.

So, say you equip beef jerky to that button. By pushing RE3, Heather will use the ebef jerky.

Simple.

Really? Sweet!!! Thanks dude, I'll go try it as soon as I have some time (meaning, next week. Right now I gotta program Monopoly)

^is that for school? are you taking computer science?

I programmed Blackjack for comp science class. That was neat.
No worries jpalz.

i love computer programming, i plan to go to school for either that or computer repair

I'll tell ta the whole story: I'm studying engineering. It's my first year, and one of the assignatures (along with Calculus and Geometry) is Introduction to Computer Programming. We do programs in JAVA and stuff. And one of the homeworks is making Monopoly, with a package that contains the graphics and stuff. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell I'm gonna do that, and how the hell I'm gonna study (because the homework is for Monday, and on Tuesday we've got a test on the same assignature. Totally sadistic)

And yeah, I wanna make games o my own

ive only used java in webpages, ive mainly used pascal, basic, visual basic, and c++, however i did find a lot of similarities between c++ and java

Dude!

I'm a huge Silent Hill fan!

I own all the titles, all 4 titles are the best horror series I ever played. I can't wait to see the movie. Sean Bean is the male lead in the film. Hopefully they will get the film done for an early 2006 release or earlier.

My favorite out of the series so far is Silent Hill the original game and the newest one Silent Hill 4 The Room. I'm stuck on the prison level where you have to align the bloody beds with that crank. With the prison being rounded it's hard to tell if you have them aligned.

Other wise so far the game is awesome, I can't wait to finish it.

I read that Konami is putting all the kudos into the movie so it should be a hit if the script is like the game. I saw pics of the set and I was quite impressed on how real the city looked compared to the game.

We'll we see a 5th Silent Hill game when the movie comes out?

More than likely.

First of all, hello dude! Welcome here!
In general the fans here say that 4 is crap, but I liked it




Really? Then I guess I won't have much problems with C++, because I wanna make games with that language. In fact, there are two books waiting for me to program with them, but I can't right now

c++ is really pretty easy once you get the basics down, dont be intimidated by it, and Damien, the way i got by the prison section you are on is by using my map a lot and remembering where i lined the rooms up that way, hope that helps you (i still in the midst of beating 4, i like it so far as well)

You can also use the peepholes. Way quicker

very true^ i used a combonation of the peepholes and the map

Yeah, i just liked up with the peepholes.

i used the peepholes, plus i wrote down a bunch of crap. that puzzle was a real b**** to figure out.

I never got the apparent 'stun gun' that was hidden in the bottom level. Apparently you had to line up the holes over a certain locked room to get the stun gun. Never found it. Bah.

i never found it either. i didnt really care tho. it probably sucked anyways.

Undoubtedly.
I still will buy it. Now my collection is up to date with all my older favourites, like Outbreak, SH4 is next on my list. It's gotten pretty cheap now afterall.

ill buy it when all the other games i want are crossed off my list. and thats gonna take a loooong time. how cheap is it now?

I can buy it for 25 canadian, used.
'Bout 15 american used i'd say.

i returned sh4 late to blockbuster and i got a letter reminding me, they said it would cost me 18 bucks if i didnt return it....im thinkin about not returning it.....

i heard about the stun gun as well and could not find it either, maybe after you play it through once, it shows up the 2nd time through? i heard it works really good on the patient monsters

It's definatly not worth ANOTHER 18 bucks...

you know thats a good point, i allready did pay 8 to rent it, that would bring the grand total to about 26 bucks...thats not too bad

Yes it is, seeing as here in the UK you could BUY it for that price by now. That includes the difference in currencey too...

^ you've never beaten sh4 right? is it only jpalz that has?

Nope. Burnside has too. I haven't.

I haven't actually. I got to the City world, second time. Then my rental time ran out, and i haven't played it since.

I never even got there

Not missing much.

I was the first too beat. Next to Jpalz because he got it months early.

I didn't kniow you'd finished it!

Yeah but for the life of me I couldnt get the happy ending.