i just edited my last post with the big head. i just got scared again with that spiked ceiling almost crushing me. this is the scariest level so far

Once you find eileen, just go back to the hole and thats the hospital complete. for now.

but where exactly is she? do i need to call the elevator? and where else do i use the hospital room key?

EDIT: nevermind. i found the way

check your map. on the second floor, one of those doors is locked, you use the key on it, eileen is in there.

I am done for tonight. I got past that partand im starting to like this jonathan guy or whatever his name is. So far in the game my biggest question is the shoes by henry's door.

unfortunaly, im finished too for the night. i gotta eat and watch my tv shows. but ill get some serious game time in tomorrow for sure!

damnit boyos!!

the shoes do nothing, whats the question with them.

later they may get possesed and walk around the apartment tho.

Well at first he says those are his shoes and he doesnt need to change them, then later he says where did i get these? and then he remembers he got them in silent hill and then he said are these even mine? Weird in my opinion. I MUST KNOW THE SECRET OF THE SHOES!!

weird. i never checked them more than once, so i didn't know he said all that about them.
very weird.

I discovered something. BOO YAH!

Man, apparently to get the good rank you have to complete the game in under 2 hours.

TWO HOURS!?

Burnside do you know how many endings theres are? I hope there are more than 2 because that sucked in three. TWO! TWO HOURS?! 120 MINUTES!? Is that possible?

FOUR endings. Just like the first game, 2 good 2 bad. But apparently they're all pretty much the same.

Eileen Dies, Room 302 is infested with Demons: BAD
Eileen Dies, Room 302 is clear of Demons: BAD+
Eileen Lives, Room 302 is infested with Demons: GOOD
Eileen Lives, Room 302 is clear of Demons: GOOD+

how can it have no demons and be bad and have no demons and be bad?

BAD+ and BAD are not the same. It's bad if Eileen dies no matter what, first priority is keeping her alive. Then, clear the room of demons to get the best ending.

Well i searched and searched the damn Water Prison for that Stun Gun and couldn't find the damn thing so screw it. Water Prison completed.

This time i'm hoarding all my health items and golf clubs and stuff.

Does Henry take the axe and leave the pipe? I cant find. Also can you not pick up the doll?

Huh? You never leave any weapons.

If you take the doll bad things will happen. It is cursed. You do not need to take the doll.

I cant find the pipe you get at the very begining after I picked up the axe I couldnt find it.

Well it's either in your inventory or your box. No items are ever discarded.
As far as i know. I may be wrong, but i had both the axe and the pipe.

yay. im home and about to play again. last night, i completed the hopsital and now i have to figure out what to do in my room. my ceiling fan fell down. are there gonna be demons and ghosts in there now? and have either of you ever turned on the radio? it says something funny.

Yeah i check the radio a few times. It says lost of stuff.

Yeah the demons are gonna start invading your room now. Stock up on candles and charm bracelets, they will kill demons. Keep an eye out for them they're everywhere.

wait. so theyre actualy in my room now? i havent found any yet. i only have one candle and i dont have any bracelets. is that bad?

no charm bracelets?

dude. there's been like 6. i remember the first one i found was in the staircase in the Water Prison.

use the candles if you see a demon appear or if your head hurts in a certain spot in your room.

oo do you mean those Saint Medallions? i have 2 of those. but i thought those were for weapons

they're not weapons, they're used to deflect the headaches. when used in the apartment they can kill demons.

oo. it says they are used to enhance weapons or something for a short time. right now im back in the hopspital going down a long spiral thing. its funny when you knock the hospital monsters down the stairs and they keep burping.lol

i know hahaha.

you're going back to the subway world now. keep an eye out for candles!

i just found a huge one not to long ago. now im fighting a ghost of some girl. is it cynthia's ghost? i dont know cuz she had shorter hair and the ghost has long hair

It's Cynthia.
She had long hair to begin with, it was pinned up. Now it's down.

All of Walters Victims, 01/21 - 19/21 are the ghosts you see. You'll meet Jaspers ghost when you get to the woods, the fat guy in the water prison, braintree when you get to the city etc.

Just remember, if you pin one down with a sword it wont bother you again. But the swords are very limited.

i onyl got one sword and i havent used it yet. i dont bother. i just run away from the ghosts. theyre slow and they dont follow me everywhere either. but do i need to use the coins to get into the subway again?

actually yeah, but once you can get back to the area where cynthia was killed you can pick up her subway pass which allows both you and eileen to go though.

the swords are the best for the MUCH harder ghosts, and you have to use one later to get a key of a ghost.

go check your room! *giggle* see what demons are coming through. i've found about 15 instances of hauntings in my room, ranging from banging windows to blood coming from the taps to the shoes walking about to the corpse of a kitty in the fridge (gross). just use a candle on the floor at these haunting places and they'll go away after awhile. make sure you watch the demon to make sure it dissapears.

theres one ghost in my room and its making the clock go crazy. i out the candle down on a table by it, but it doesnt seem to be working. maybe it put it too far away?

possibly. i put the candle on the table under the clock for that one. make sure you watch the candle melt all the way down.

and remember, your room will not heal you anymore. hope you're well stocked on health.

i have like 3 or 4 health items, so i hope im gonna be ok. i just got a toy key from my door. do i need this right now or can i put it in the chest for now?

are the ghost's the one's who chase you and give you a mega bad headache?if so are they the ones on the demo?

Yes ghosts are human figures that float after you and damage you by causing headaches.

I haven't played any demo so i don't know if they're on it.

you need it.
remember, there was something in one of the subway cars the first time though that was locked....

yep they'll be the one's i have the demo and their in it i wondered why you cant kill them

They can never be killed. You can pin them to the floor with special swords, but there's only 5 in the game and there's 19 ghosts.

and there was me unloading a full clip from the handgun into them

haha.
well you can stun them, and the silver bullets even knock them out indefinately until you leave the area. but eventually they'll get up again.

i've found bullets useless in this game besides the silver ones. the revolver is nice and powerful and i use it on targets i don't want to get to close to but the handgun is crap.

are the ghost's the victim's of walter sullivan?

yeah they are. he has 21 victims to kill but he only has killed 19 of them, so thats why theres only 19 ghosts

Correct.

As a child Walter Sullivan was abandoned to the cult who raised him on a verse of the cults bible called the '21 sacraments'. He uses the power of the cult to kill his victims and sacrifice them to the cults god so he can be with his mother.

Very vague description of whats going on.

[edit] exactly HD. he did infact attack but somehow the 20th victim survived.

i really want this game but i don't have the money at the mo

Me neither. Rent it.

ok, now i got the Muder Scene key. where would i use that? do i need it to get the items that cynthia left behind or something?

yeah look's like i'm gonna have to

Correct. The murder scene is where Cynthia died. You have to go up that escalator again.

On the way, you should notice a train cart on the bottom level. The train has an open door, but it's missing the starter handle...