cdog572
Jun 27 2004, 06:51 PM
Bush is the Anti-Christ/Dragon.....Here is what is said about the Anti-Christ.He is a person that starts small but becomes inexplicably powerful(Bush).He gains his position through lies and deception(2000 ELECTION)He destroys many in the name of peace(The Global War on Terror)People will worship him as God(Many Christians have said that Bush was sent from God)He will declare himself as God(Bush has in so many ways if you listen to him real good)He will initiate an unprecedented peace treaty between Israel and her enemies(The Road Map to Peace)He will be the main protector of Israel during the Endtimes(THE U.S) He will rule a modern version of the Revived Roman Empire(The U.S is modeled after The Old Roman Empire and is now the most feared.Most dominant and powerful Empire that the world has ever seen!)He will control the World throught two beasts.One from the sea,One from the land.The beast from the sea is America's Navy/Marine force!The beast from the land are our Army/Air force!He claims to be Christian But is a member of the Satanic order of Skull and Bones.As was his father G H.W. Bush and his grandfather Sen. Prescott Bush.(Prescott Bush helped finance Hitler in WW2 this is a matter of record!)And Sen. John Kerry,Supreme court Justices,C.I.A members,Ceo's,Members of the Council on Foreign Relations,Congressmen,Major newspaper owners!....etc.The Bush family has a very dark past and present.The President's uncle Prescoot Bush Jr. is the head of U.S./China trade commission.We give millions of dollars a year to the Communist Chinese government.A government that has killed more of it's own citizens than Hitler,Stalin,and Saddam combined!America dominates the planet through Money,Military power,and now fear!And once the Middle East is taken over this nation will control the world's oil.No one will be able to stand against the U.S.!The world will answer to One government(Democracy,One currency(The U.S. DOLLAR )One religion(Greed).What is the Mark of the Beast........Money!Another name for money is Mark.I f you don't accept the Mark( Money)of the Beast meaning if your government does not accept Democracy/Capitolism.Your country will not be able to buy or sell(Trade Sanctions)Your country will be isolated,starved or seen as a Rogue Terrorist Nation and be destroyed!(Pre-emptive strikes).A New World Order!
Morgoroth
Jun 27 2004, 07:34 PM
well said!
Joe013
Jun 27 2004, 08:00 PM
Very interesting conclusions...But I'm afraid I can't trust them completely. There has been so many "Anti-Christs" that I don't know what to do about it. Although didn't Nostradamus predict there would be 6 Anti-Christs? Although his prophecies are so vague that they could be interpreted several different ways.
SilverCougar
Jun 27 2004, 09:17 PM
Hold it! I thought Gates was the anti-christ?
EdgyWizard
Jun 27 2004, 10:58 PM
Nah, but his creation is
cdog572
Jun 28 2004, 01:30 AM
But this is the only time in history that all of the Biblical pieces are occuring at the same time!
SilverCougar
Jun 28 2004, 01:45 AM
If you look in the past, you'll see that all of the biblical prophacies have happened at the same time before. It's just a matter of how you interperate things.
cdog572
Jun 28 2004, 03:27 AM
Really?So at what point in ancient times was a nation able to make fire fall from the sky in the sight of men?How could the entire world watch Gods two witnesses be killed in ancient times without worldwide satellite transmissions.Last but not least Israel has to be in existence and allies with the Anti-christ nation to fulfill prophecy when has these events occured together before ?When was it possible?We are talking modern warfare.We have weapons that can destroy the entire earth.That was not possible in ancient times.Prophecy also states that one of the signs of the endtimes would be when the Bible was translated into every known language on Earth.That happened in 1950.Israel became a recognized nation in 1948...The United States helped to bring it back into existence and has been it's sole guardian.
Nikolaos
Jun 28 2004, 04:16 AM
Hi, CDog. I don't think anyone's welcomed you to the board. But, if I may so interject, I see some flaws in your theory.
| QUOTE (cdog572) |
| He gains his position through lies and deception(2000 ELECTION) |
A ) This is a matter of opinion. No one's sure that he cheated to get his poisition.
B ) The "Anti-Christ prophecy" can be taken many ways. The part about "He gains his poistion through lies and deception" could be taken many ways, most of them metaphorical.
| QUOTE (cdog572) |
| People will worship him as God(Many Christians have said that Bush was sent from God) |
A ) Do these "Christains" worship him as their God?
B ) Do these "Christians" see him as a figure of devine power?
| QUOTE (cdog572) |
| (Prescott Bush helped finance Hitler in WW2 this is a matter of record!) |
How does this make Prescott Bush's grandson the Anti-Christ?
| QUOTE (Dictionary) |
| Religion: Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. |
| QUOTE (cdog572) |
| One religion(Greed) |
What is the supernatural power in the "religion of Greed" to make it a religion?
Sorry, but I'm not a big fan of Anti-Christ theories. They're a bunch of bull. We'll all blow ourselves to hell long before a demon sent from Lucifer can doom us.
SilverCougar
Jun 28 2004, 04:17 AM
Lessee... people were making the same comparisons to WW2 and the nazis...
Some even managed to make them during the crusades...
cdog572
Jun 28 2004, 04:46 AM
Correct...And of course I respect all opininions,My point is that too many of those prophecies are falling into place.And yes idolatry is a form of worship.The fact is that the Anti-Christ is a man...Not a demon!Who believes himself to be sent by God!Hitler/Attila/Napoleon were all prototypical Anti-christs...They basically are the blue-print.Hitler claimed to be Catholic And Devinely inspired.And yes we are all heading down the path to self destruction,But the Anti-Christ is on a crusade that will kick of WW3.WW2 was destructive it ended with the A-bomb.WW3 may start with the H-bomb and other weapons of mass destruction and there is no returning from that type of Global destruction
Nikolaos
Jun 28 2004, 04:54 AM
Suggestion: Try and double space between periods. Makes for better reading.
cdog572
Jun 28 2004, 05:41 AM
Thanks Satan..Oops I mean't Old Nick...Er Nik!
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Jun 28 2004, 06:07 AM
| QUOTE (cdog572 @ Jun 28 2004, 01:41 AM) |
| Thanks Satan..Oops I mean't Old Nick...Er Nik! |
That wasn't necessary cdog572, stuff like that just gets you in trouble. Perhaps you should read the
forum rules.
I looked but didn't see a source for your "prophecy". Would you care to provide one?
Falco Rex
Jun 28 2004, 11:47 AM
One thing, cdog. It was Clinton who initiated the Road Map of Peace plan for Israel, although he had limited time to work on it. It seems like a small enough detail, I guess. But when you're advancing such a large and unbelievable scenario even a small discrepency tends to cast doubt on the entire thing..
And yes, it would be nice if you had some source material here. For most of us the line; "The Bible Says So", is just not enough..
aliens_abducted_elvis
Jun 28 2004, 11:49 AM
i would just like to say that this all makes for very interesting reading but do you really think such a seemingly stupid man such as bush could be capable being the anti-christ? hes just an idiot...
i would also like too see a source of the "prophesy" thingy you were you got this all from.
Falco Rex
Jun 28 2004, 11:55 AM
..Also I think we are all aware that Bush doesn't make all his decisions by himself. He has a large cabinet of advisors too. I think it would be fair to say that much of Americas' policy is dictated by the other members of the Bush administration.
Are we to believe then that there is a "Council of Anti-Christs?"
Q-La
Jun 28 2004, 02:53 PM
BUSH,
BURNING-BUSH,
CHRIST,
ANTI-CHRIST...
Falco Rex
Jun 28 2004, 03:04 PM
I still fail to see how being a religious guy qualifies him as the Anti-Christ. I realize that he's very unpopular but that's no reason to assume he's here to purposefully bring about Armageddon..
Although I also know that sometimes it takes much less than that to touch off yet another conspiracy theory..
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Jun 28 2004, 03:11 PM
I'm still waiting to see some sort of source for this so called prophecy.
cdog572
Jun 28 2004, 03:13 PM
The forum rules doesn't allow humor???What other source do you need besides the Bible and your own intelligence??Revelation is not good enough?As for the road map to peace it didn't start with Clinton.Peacein the Middle East has been attempted by many Presidents long before Clinton.The Anti-Christ will be the first to acheive it were others have failed.Causing more people to marvel at this (MAN OF PEACE.)
Nxt2Hvn
Jun 28 2004, 03:14 PM
Too many people are against Bush and what he believes.... the Anti-Christ is said to have Many Followers.. of all the world.
Bush is not accepted by other countries... that is where you went wrong!
Falco Rex
Jun 28 2004, 03:18 PM
So do you really think Bush will achieve lasting Mid-East peace in the 5 months he has left. Because from what I've seen, he doesn't stand a snowballs' chance of getting re-elected..
I know Clinton wasn't the first President to try this. but you used the road-map of peace analogy as specific example and ascribed it to Bush. This was not true, so I merely corrected you..
And no, most of us won't take the Bible as a reliable source, since it was written in such a way as to leave much room for interpretation in regards to it's prophecies..
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Jun 28 2004, 03:21 PM
Humor requires you to post something funny.
Your post is called THE DRAGON REIGNS, PROPHECY, not My opinion on how George Bush is the Anti-Christ I would like to read your source in order to make up my own mind.
cdog572
Jun 28 2004, 03:25 PM
Bush is not a stupid man don't let his aw shucks act fool you.And the Anti-Christ doesn't act alone he has others with Him that support Him.Ever heard of the Ten Kings that support him?They will give their authority to Him they have no kingdoms yet but shall be given their Kingdoms by Him in order to rule with him for one hour.That is why we have a World Bank,World Trade Committee.Everything is being consolidated into ten central organizations to make it easy for Him to control the World.All banks,All trade,All businesses,everything will be controlled by these ten(Kings)Businessmen/Leaders who will be controlled by Him.
Nikolaos
Jun 28 2004, 05:10 PM
CDog, I do believe that Dot's getting quite agitated. If you don't have any source to back this up, then I don't believe you should have started this topic. It's just my opinion, but do you have something against Bush?
SilverCougar
Jun 28 2004, 05:35 PM
Test run and blueprints Anti-Christs?
I don't remember that being said in the bible...
"And ye there shall be the Anti-Christ alpha stage, and Beta Stage before I give unto thee, the Anti-Christ Live verison."
I think you're taking the "Bush is the anti-christ" jokes just a *tad* bit too serious hon. I mean, I dislike this guy myself, but I'm not ready to suddenly believe in the bible and this whole "end of the world" mess because of him.
However, I do believe that if humans do get wiped out, it'll be by our own actions, not by the will of some deity. Well.. maybe at the will of some higher being...
The more we hurt Mother Earth.. but this is a thought for a different thread.
Joe013
Jun 28 2004, 06:00 PM
| QUOTE |
BUSH, BURNING-BUSH, CHRIST, ANTI-CHRIST... |
lol i do beleive that is a completely irrelavent (sp?) connection.
and cdog, i would also like to see a source.
and bush is not stupid. he graduated from yale! (i know youre all going to say, oh its because of his father) but its not. you cant be stupid and become president, no matter what anybody says.
SilverCougar
Jun 28 2004, 06:06 PM
So? He graduated from Yale... *just barely*
Like skin of his teeth...
Scar
Jun 28 2004, 08:28 PM
| QUOTE (Daughter of the Nine Moons @ Jun 28 2004, 04:21 PM) |
Humor requires you to post something funny.
Your post is called THE DRAGON REIGNS, PROPHECY, not My opinion on how George Bush is the Anti-Christ I would like to read your source in order to make up my own mind. |
The Prophecie is from revelations as best as i can tell , He is merley linking some of the things in that with Things He thinks Might happen.
I might Add none of which have came true yet ,
Extract from Revelations
| QUOTE |
13:11 I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke like a dragon.
13:12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. He makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.
13:13 He performs great signs, even making fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the sight of people.
13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.
13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn't worship the image of the beast to be killed.
13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;
13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.
13:18 Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six |
More can be found here
Link
IamAJewishNazi
Jun 28 2004, 08:48 PM
Edit; removed childish nonsense.
SilverCougar
Jun 28 2004, 08:58 PM
MM's on the ball!
So I remove my jibber
Joe013
Jun 28 2004, 09:21 PM
hooray for MM!
cdog572
Jun 29 2004, 03:24 AM
Thank you star...I didn't ask anyone to agree with me.I just appreciate the feedback.I was all for Bush after 911 because I felt that he was a take no s..t president.But once his position started going to his head I started remebering where had I heard about all of this stuff that was going on.In Revelation for one..World history for 2..Bush's background for 3...And finally The New World Order agenda and its connections to the Freemasons and Skull and Bones.If you think that the Skull and Bones are harmless explain why Kerry and Bush refuse to speak about it or reveal anything about the organization?Not to mention the fact that I am military and I know that all the peices that were put into place years ago are now being carried out.But as I said don't bash me do your own research and make your own decisions.
Socol
Jun 29 2004, 03:35 AM
The funny thing is that most of the people who come up with this "Bush is an anti-Christ" B.S. (for lack of better words) are atheists who don't really believe in God or Satan. Yet, they do it to further the campaign against Bush; using peoples gullible ness (or is it stupidity?) to there advantage.
No offense intended to those who feel that Bush is an anti-Christ.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Jun 29 2004, 03:51 AM
Yes scar I recognized the Revelations overtones from cdog572's initial post. cdog572 should be prepared to back up his/her words and not start misleading threads.
The Nameless One
Jun 29 2004, 03:54 AM
Cdog all this is compelling!!! I can honestly say I actually enjoyed reading your theory.
Truthfully I evaluated the information and there are just too many similarities between Bush and the Antichrist. Now coming from me one who is not a christian, it's almost impossible to convince me of biblical prophecy, but what you put together was genius, but it was only genius.
Even though your research seems correct, it's just so hard to believe that it is correct it may be accurate but accuracy is not prophecy. You have to understand that it is only your own interpretation.
There is a website that actually blew my mind and took me over 3 hours to read all the information about it. But the website was discussing how Prince William is the upcoming Antichrist. I was so intrigued that for a split second I was like dude you need to get your ass in church.
This is the website
http://www.maxpages.com/kingarthur.
But I stopped got it together, took a deep breathe, and relief came over me like an awesome wave, I had relised that it was only an interpretation.
Besides that would suck if Bush was the Antichrist, I can think so many other people who would make a much cooler and evilier Antichrist.
Example
1. Danny Filth from cradle of filth
2. Marilyn Manson
3. Shagrath from Dimmu Borgir
Another words Bush is too much of a wimp, to be the Antichrist. But nonetheless your ideas are kick ass, I enjoyed reading them.
TNO with the ill flow Yo.
AztecInca
Jun 29 2004, 08:40 AM
If hes the ANTI-CHRIST than I laugh at the devil he he he he
Your opinion is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it but I just can`t see him being the ANTI-CHRIST or even being trully evil. He may be stupid and fairly incompetent at being president but there are a lot worse people in the world.
Shouldn`t the ANTI-CHRIST be like, ummmm... evil and appear as not a nice guy unless its all an act to trick us.HA!! that must be it and maybe your right.... wait wouldn`t he have to be smart and devious!!!!!!!
Notice the caps lock is for emphasis on the ANTI-CHRIST cause its pure evilllllllllllllllllllllllll and I felt like it.
Sorry about this if it annoys anyone but I just felt like getting my thoughts on this subject out.
Cradle of Fish
Jun 29 2004, 10:30 AM
w00t, Dani Filth for President 2004!
Enough of that nonsense though.
Obviously there is something to George W. Bush, I doubt he could of become president without aid behind the scenes.
But he is not the Anti-Christ, there is no Anti-Christ, and there never will be one.
Its just whats written in the bible and whats interpreted(sp?) from it, you could read the Book of Genesis and think it means that humans are meant to run nude outdoors instead of wearing clothes.
Its all a matter of Perspective, some people think the bible says that homosexuals are an abomination, and some think that the bible says that they arent.
Its just how you read it.
And even if George Bush is the antichrist and im wrong, well it wont make a difference because one day we will all be dead and whatever happens here wont concern us....
Etc........
Joe013
Jun 29 2004, 02:59 PM
How optimistic?
The Raven
Jun 29 2004, 03:39 PM
Funny reading, but dammit, how many times must I say this. Satanic people don't worship the devil or really even believe in the beast, that is just a christian tale. Only the freaks that are uneducated about it do. They have love for animals and children. Even if President Bush was a satanist, he would probably be a better president than anyone else would be, just for that fact he would be dramatically different.
In my opinion, John Kerry is the antichrist. Why do people support him? Sure Bush isn't our best president but he knows HOW to be president. How does ANYONE know John Kerry won't be worse and start WWIII. Bush cheated and won for a reason; he wants to be president and keep this great country alive even if by unpopular ways.
Joe013
Jun 29 2004, 03:45 PM
thats an interesting outlook...now i dont know anything about politics, but even without knowing anything i think i would rather have bush that kerry.
The Nameless One
Jun 29 2004, 04:50 PM
Well in a since your right, I mean at lleast we already know what to expect from Bush.
Still I think Ill leave it up to someone else to decide our fate, Id just not rather be a part of this years election.
Vote for me TNO.
The Gryphon
Jun 29 2004, 11:29 PM
| QUOTE (SilverCougar @ Jun 28 2004, 02:45 AM) |
| If you look in the past, you'll see that all of the biblical prophacies have happened at the same time before. It's just a matter of how you interperate things. |
Right on the money. At no time in the past has a person had access to so much information. I'm pretty sure if a 17th century man had access to a cnn of his time he would believe the end of days was here. Frankly the bible has been edited and interpreted so many times even a lot of it's historical integrity is questionable!
cdog572
Jun 30 2004, 03:10 AM
I love the feedback..Someone made a point about Jonn Kerry...That fact is no matter what the political party in power....Skull and Bones comes out on top.Both Bush and Kerry swore in allegiance to this order that supercedes any loyalty to us.
The Nameless One
Jun 30 2004, 03:15 AM
| QUOTE (cdog572 @ Jun 30 2004, 04:10 AM) |
| I love the feedback..Someone made a point about Jonn Kerry...That fact is no matter what the political party in power....Skull and Bones comes out on top.Both Bush and Kerry swore in allegiance to this order that supercedes any loyalty to us. |
I wish I could join the Skull and Bones.
Dude think of all the money and power you would get, Id swear allegiance to it.
aquatus1
Jun 30 2004, 11:44 AM
Can't say I take that too seriously. Heck, I've sworn oaths to the Rosicrucians, the Masons, and to several fraternities that, at the time, I would have willingly...well, not died, but at least suffered greviously for. While I do find Bush a tad too cowboy for the global political world, I have seen nothing that would call into question his loyalty to his country. Telling me that he raised his beer glass to a college club (and I have seen little evidence that the Skull and Bones is any more than that) won't do it for me.
cdog572
Jun 30 2004, 02:50 PM
Go to these links:Is America the Babylon of Biblical Prophecy?And then Skull and Bones.also The New World Order and The truth about Freemasonry. Just to start with.
Falco Rex
Jun 30 2004, 02:59 PM
How can we go to the links? You didn't add them to your post? Or even write down the web addresses..
aquatus1
Jun 30 2004, 08:00 PM
Let's see, what will those sites contain? A critical analysis of the club's history and actions, along with citations and sources concerning specific claims; or perhaps a single point of view with no backing or anything that would suggest it is anything more than the authors opinion?
Will I also be able to find links to other alleged government conspiracies?
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