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joc
Every time I walk into the store or turn on the TV, I am inundated with ads from coffee to beans that say:


Carb this or Carb that...........I can't take it anymore.

Give me Carbs or Give me Death!!!


Is this just an American Fad Thing or is it....world wide? ohmy.gif

thank you in advance for this relief of ever-building pressure
Fenris
Refrenceing that Atkins diet fad thing I take it?

From what I can tell its worse in the USA than elsewhere but not exclusive, we get a lot about it over here too but not so much that it saturates the culture!
tendo
its also a bunch of bull...itll make u lose weight for a while, but then ull either flatline, or gain it back...first of all, our brains need carbs...its what fuels it...not to mention the rest of our bodies...second, after a while of not getting a certain nutrient that your body needs, your body will tear down the stuff u have enuff of, and reconstruct it into what u need...so, after a while, yer gettin more carbs in your body than u actually eat, causing the flat line, or regain... blah to the whole thing, ill eat my carbs, and be happy... (did u notice, most of the ppl following all these diets, dont need it, or do it to 'maintain' their body? wtf??? chix care way too much about their bodies, and when u ask them y, they say 'cuz guys like it that way' well, im here to tell u, that guys dont care nearly as much as they seem to...) ok, im done venting, thank you for posting this, and thank you for reading my annoyed blabberings grin2.gif
BurnSide
It's world-wide i'm afraid. I've lived in three continents and seen it everywhere.

It appeals to peoples desire to be thin and healthy, when really it doesn't make you either. Shame people are this gullable. If it's on TV it must be truth!!
Fenris
QUOTE (tendo @ Jun 30 2004, 08:11 PM)
and when u ask them y, they say 'cuz guys like it that way'

Its a total bunch of balls as well....

If they aren't annorexic then the media convinces lassies they are fat

If you ask them WHY they want to be skinny they say its for us men

YET

If you ask the majority of men what they preffer... WE LIKE CURVES!!!!!!
Anorexic stick insects are NOT my idea of 'atractive'!
tendo
rite on fenris

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If it's on TV it must be truth!!


wait wait...yer tellin me...the tv LIES???!!!
BurnSide
Believe it or not!
Kira
The thing is though most people if they have enough of these images thrown at them will start to believe the hype that people want stick insects for partners/wives / gf whatever..

People believe it and start to believe that people should be like that then you ca imagine the type of pressure that puts on people. Insults, jibes and just down right rudeness ensues.
I speak from experience..

Yup it's not just the US joc it's every where. And until the media learns that stick thin people are doing more harm than good.. it'll keep going...

Daughter of the Nine Moons
Right on Celti!
Weretiger
Its sort of ironic as while people are reading this, google has set up advertisments for dieting and the Atkins's diet. disgust.gif
BurnSide
I hate goggle they're the worst, especially now with this G-mail scam. Big Brother anyone??
Weretiger
Big Brother, as in the reality tv show? I hate the britishversion, but loved the American. So much conflict...
Druidus
It's completely retarted to strive for "no carbs". Do they actually think that carbs make you fat? I'm a vegan, and most of what I eat is just laden with carbs! Mind you, I am a bit overweight, but I lost weight when I became vegan. The people out there on fad diets need to learn that there is only one way to lose weight. A good healthy diet (one that meets all of your nutritional needs), and excercise! How hard is that to understand!
Lottie
Excuse me!!! I happen to be 5ft 11 and very slim I am a UK size 10. Yes I do runway and yes I am naturally like this always have been always will be. Please be more considerate to people like myself, we may be 'stick insects' but there are a few of us who don't diet and are not anorexic!

I do not think there would be a thread such as this calling people fat and need to lose some more weight so please be a little more respectful. I am sick and tires of people in the past complete strangers coming up to me in the street and telling me I need to put more weight on. I would never dream of walking up to a bigger person in the street and saying to them gosh dear you need to lose the weight! So why the difference?

As for the people who deliberately diet and make themselves sick to be thin, its just not right. Love the person you are and the body your in!! Life is too short enjoy it and yopurself for what you are.

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Insults, jibes and just down right rudeness ensues.
I speak from experience..


Celti I know how you feel but from a thin persons point of view.

Rant over...feel better... Lottie
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BurnSide
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Big Brother, as in the reality tv show? I hate the britishversion, but loved the American. So much conflict...



Big Brother as in the organisation in George Orwell's 1984, where it all started.

G-mail is an email system set up by goggle, where google scans ALL your emails for content and spams your inbox advertisements based on what words you used in your email.

One small step for the Borg...
Druidus
Lottie, no, don't take it like that. Have you ever really seen an anorexic person? How much do you weigh? One patient with anorexia weighed 58 pounds at 28 years of age. She was close to your height. That's a stick insect. I doubt you look like that naturally. Here's a pic of an anorexic patient:

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Weretiger
I'm just say'in, thats all.
I think advertisment is the main root for this obsession. If you have a proper state of mind and fell good about yourself, you most likely won't be affected.
tendo
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I do not think there would be a thread such as this calling people fat and need to lose some more weight so please be a little more respectful. I am sick and tires of people in the past complete strangers coming up to me in the street and telling me I need to put more weight on. I would never dream of walking up to a bigger person in the street and saying to them gosh dear you need to lose the weight! So why the difference?



im sorry, lottie, if i offended u in any way...i was aiming my complaints towards ppl who think theyre fat, and diet, when they arent...and im not saying n e thing about anorexics either...as it is a disease, and they cannot help it...
Lottie
Druidus and Tendo,

Yes I have seen an anorexic person a friend of mine and its just tragic. Incredibly sad to see such a beautiful women become like that.

No worries I was just venting. I am a healthy weight for my height, I think the problem with me is that there are so few people who have the same body type as me naturally, that people automatically make assumptions.

Strangely enough I do not seem to get any 'feedback/insults' from people when I am in America or mainland Europe, it only seems to happen in the UK.
Kira
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Celti I know how you feel but from a thin persons point of view.


Lottie...
I know hun, but's not you that I'm having a rant at.. It's the media that seen to promote that think that really thin is fantastic.
A few years ago they were saying getting a really good suntan was healthy... wink2.gif
BurnSide
I wonder, if commercials started comming out that SERIOUSLY said, if you were to lopp off both your pinkie fingers you'll be incredibly healthy, i wonder if people would...
Lottie
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Lottie...
I know hun, but's not you that I'm having a rant at..


Its okay sweety I know you were not having a rant at me, we go through similar experiences only at different ends of the scale.

Me_Again
Carbs are fine the problem is the refined, whitened bleached products that contain perservatives. But as my aunt Becky says "perservatives are needed by our bodies, they help preserve us" lol "You are what you eat" - a store by me
Just an opinion, but try drinking soy milk. Just think if you were a calf, you would drink your mommies milk- are you a calf? j/k
Xenojjin
Carb diets are all full of crap . Me ? Im pretty medium weight . Not overweight , not a stick either . But keep in mind that genetics has its toll . There are some people who have no choice but to be fat , and some who just cannot get overweight no matter how much chocolate they eat .

But I am really surprised so many people believe that keeping your body from something essential such as carbs is actually good for you . kinda sad .

Curse you corporate media and your control over the majorities minds ! O_o
chico del nacho
QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jun 30 2004, 09:55 PM)
I wonder, if commercials started comming out that SERIOUSLY said, if you were to lopp off both your pinkie fingers you'll be incredibly healthy, i wonder if people would...

in my mind, there's no doubt that people would do this. it's losing weight without work AND if it doesn't work, you can sue. either way, you win...sort of.
Scar
At the End of the day (did i just Type that dontgetit.gif )

Things that look nice draw more attension, we like Symmetry , we like things that are sleek, sexy and smooth. Its human to like such things not just in the opposite sex but in Cars , TV's , Mobile's etc.

You can't just blame Media for the Fixation we have on looking "Perfect", just take a wee look at the this Link, 20 pages of UM members idea of Perfection.

How is the Media to blame for this ?
Should They be made less Perfect looking ?
Should we expect our Visions of perfection to be locked away so we all fall in love with personalities ?

Cmon , Choice thumbsup.gif we all have it thumbsup.gif use it thumbsup.gif

Blaming the Media is the Passing the Buck Option,

Insults come from Being . Fat, thin, Skin Colour,Hair Colour, height, sex and religion.

It seems In this western world Of Obesecity, suddenly Being fat is acceptable. Unless you have a problem Medically, Join a Gym , Or prepare for a life of torment

Tis the world We live in crying.gif


If you would Like to discuss this with somone Via Formal Debate using facts without others putting in their 2 cents , PM me and I'll set it up thumbsup.gif
Kismit


In regards to soymilk .. Soy milk contains estrogen and eostrogen is something males should not par take in , it leaves a fatty layer on the brain which makes learning difficult ...

and as for how we look skinny , fat, thin, chubby ... love them all . We know it makes no difference so long as we are healthy and happy . Exercise and vegetables original.gif I refuse to live in a way where I have to scientifically combine my carbs /sugars/protiens and fats . I don't wiegh I refuse to measure , for goodness sake it's only food . rolleyes.gif
sasass
The publicity hype stuff will die off soon. It always does.It's a fad
( the sad part is, Diet books are out-selling everything else and have been way before this nocarb fad.)
I wish Twiggy had never come on the scene.What she did to the modeling industry, has totally affected womens lives in industrialized nations ever since. And not in a good way.

Men love women, because they're women. Not for what the media tells us they should be.

Burnside-I like your point of view .. thumbsup.gif

Scar- Painfully truthful.. thumbsup.gif
BurnSide
Yeah man, it'll be the new fad.

4 fingers, less body mass!!
odinsgrl
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No worries I was just venting. I am a healthy weight for my height, I think the problem with me is that there are so few people who have the same body type as me naturally, that people automatically make assumptions.


Lottie, you hit the nail right on the head!

I believe some women want the body "type". They want the model frame, but they're body is not built that way. So they think, if I could just be thinner, I'll look like that. So far from the truth! Everybody has a different body frame, and you can't make it change, no matter what you do!
I can never look like, Cindy Crawford, or Rebecca Romajn-Stamos! I just can't! Its not possible, no matter how much weight I lose. And I don't care! I love to look at women with the "model" frame, and say, "Wow, they really do look nice." But I also look at women with an athletic frame (like my best friend) and say the same thing! Everyone is beautiful, no matter what they look like! And if you have a thinner frame, work it girl!

I myself, starved myself hoping that I would achive what I just discribed, but I came to the realization, the Goddess didn't build me that way! So, I love myself the way I was built, and try to stay healthy but exersicing and eating better! I have never felt better in my life!
doomgirl
all these stupid ads and tv show's is why I stopped wanting TV a long time go
cma
yah, wor gives a damn about carbs. it is just hyped.
Nxt2Hvn
Thanks Joc for taking a stand from all the low carb crap!!!!

I have been eating a lot of "Low Carb" wraps for lunch... but thanks to your liberating post ... I actually ate "BREAD" for lunch today!!

YAY for me!!!! thumbsup.gif

I must say ... it was very liberating... and wonderful to experience the taste of bread once again! wub.gif

You Rock Joc!! wink2.gif
Babs
Atkins doesn't work and it's a dangerous diet. ph34r.gif No long term studies to see how it affects health, either. My doctor told me that the last thng I should do is go on the Atkins diet. That's scary. crying.gif
Great Big Sea
I kinda agree with you Joc but if you worked at a Donut Shop four day's a week you would be on a diet like Atkins! I mean with all of that tempation you would still want to eat that crap everyonce in awhile and still be on a healthy diet. I don't like it when people blast the Atkins diet I'm sick of it! If it can help people loose weight in a healthy way and make them feel better then who cares? I'm not sick of it since I don't watch that much tv. And the tv that I do watch it either anime or crime dramas. But you do have a good point Joc. original.gif thumbsup.gif
Babs
That's just it, it isn't healthy and it doesn't make you lose weight. In the long run people gain all their weight back and then some. ohmy.gif Diets don't work...you can't stay on them. You really have to change your lifestyle and the way you look at food.
FreyKade
stick women ..ew...just looking at them..and you can see like right under their colarbone or see under the shoulderblades....ewwwww they just skeletons with skin
odinsgrl
Ok, now I've seen it all! I just saw an ad for low carb DOG FOOD!!!!!
The Cheat
QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jul 1 2004, 01:35 AM)
Yeah man, it'll be the new fad.

4 fingers, less body mass!!

a finger isnt good enough! theres no fat there...chop off a leg!


Anyway, yeah the low carb thing is stupid, and it has become INSANE, theres sooo many 'low carb' products.
For losing weight fast, the atkins diet does work (my dad lost quite a bit of wieght on it) but for it to work, you have to eat like nothing but meat and a few other things. All these low carb junk foods defeat the whole purpose of dieting....case in point: Low Carb Soda. soda is horrible for you, yet the stupid ads are telling us that having half the carbs makes it ok. It doesnt. Soda is probably the first thing you should stop consuming if you want to lose wieght or just eat healthy (well, second thing...bear claws are pretty bad)
Lottie
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stick women ..ew...just looking at them..and you can see like right under their colarbone or see under the shoulderblades....ewwwww they just skeletons with skin


Try not to be so insensitive. These 'stick women' as you call them have Anorexia or Bulimia and are seriously ill because of this. It might be 'ewww' to you, its horrifying to me. A little more maturity and tact in future would not go amiss when addressing a sensitive issue such as this.
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