Hello - just looking at this particular forum, and there are loads of topics about Most Haunted.

I have watched from the off, and used to enjoy it very much.
I find the new shows far too cliched, and the Live shows a farce, but I still can't help watching it!!!!!!!!

Do any of you MH fans think the show is faked?

Do any of you think Degsy does a bit of research?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts and replies

Hammy x x x

hi Hammy

Hi Sweetheart

I think you are referring to the episode in Derby Gaol??
And you are correct - there are many stories, names and dates plastered all over the walls of the prison. Were these details taken down when the crew were filming?

And, I thnk I already mentioned the article about Clarkenwell to you already didn't I??

I think the show needs to get out to private residences, some place where information isn't in the public domain..........

Hammy x x x

YIP I agree hammy, they should do a series where they go into private homes

Hi babycakes ,

I don't like MH but I can't help but watch it. Its most definately staged and faked. and as for Mr Acorah I am sure he reads the script before hand. Also Mr D ia a trained Actor and is very good at his role as 'Medium.' It does not help that they go to places that are known to be haunted, places where it is very easy to get research. The private residences would be a good idea however I am pretty sure that any research done before hand would be made available for Acorah to read up on.
Its purely entertainment of the very worst kind!

This show is absolute drivel. End of story. DEREK, you need some acting lessons fella, cos u aint very good at it! & the other one, no wonder BP didnt want her anymore!

Fake !!! Fake !!! Whats next ?? Oh dont tell me that the Power Rangers arent real !!

I had hoped one day, to raise my hands in the air and cry " ITS MOR'PHIN TIME !!"

oh , to be mighty.

Well i did think MH was ok till the last live how.
At the end of sunday nights show, Derek and the team got sent to a room, he said he could see, peoples intestings and brains and things around him.
Anyway when the team had done they went back to the den(studio tent) and left two other members there. When the camaras went back to see if anything had happend, one of the girls said, there had been a few noises but it was the pictures of intestings and brains that freeked her out.
So that did it for me, Derek would have seen them anyway because there were pictures on the wall.
Has he got the gift, i just dont know anymore.

And as for programs, Richard Felix and Phil Wyman from MH are doing there own show, with just the two of them, dont know when its coming on, but it will be on living tv, keep you posted.

Magic charm

Just to chuck in a curve-ball, have a think about this.

If Derek comes up with things that are not recorded, he is ridiculed.

If he comes up with historical facts he is deemed a fake.

He is in a no-win situation isn't he?

Hammy x x x

Like i said on here before, Derek is convinced Hampstead Heath is haunted because he heard groans and rustling coming from the bushes

I don't believe that the show is faked. After all, if you're going to fake a TV programme about ghosts, then surely you would provide some interesting stuff now and again ? I mean, just how many ghosts have you seen on Most Haunted ? NONE. How much evidence has the show produced ? Very little (IMO).

Oh, and the "Most Haunted...LIVE" programmes are a massive waste of time and money.

Okay well I've seen through to series 3 but not the latest series nor the latest live show etc, but I am of the opinion that the folks at Most Haunted can be taken at their word... for the below reasons...

1: Reactions - For example, the sighting of the 'legs' in Drury Lane Theatre, the crew evince what appear to be genuinely scared reactions. Not only that, they didn't capture the 'legs' on film, which would have been an ideal moment to 'stage' something, had they wanted to.

2: Footage - For the most part, as has been said above, despite many locations and many instances of paranormal activity, they have captured little - mostly orbs on film and a few bumps & bangs on the sound tapes. Had they wanted to fake things, they would have got more stuff by now to show us.

3: Locations - Yes, they go to many well known locations where information could be known prior, but they have been to locations where there is very little information - Charnock Hall, The Clock House, Aldwych Underground Station (the first two are indeed private residences). So Derek would have his work cut out even knowing the locations prior to his attendance.

4: The crew have even been to locations and directly stated that they captured very little evidence to support a haunting there - Souter Lighthouse, Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Skirrid Inn.

All in all, I enjoy watching the show, and I believe the moments which have been most noteworthy so far, and which are probably genuine, are:

The 'legs' & 'the man with chains' at Drury lane; the orb at Culzean Castle; the 'bed shaking' at the Station Hotel; oh, and the 'moving box' at Chillingham Castle.

I've thought about this question a lot since i first saw the program.

I think the most common misconception is that the programme's authenticty or otherwise is based solely on whether Derek Acorah is genuine, but I think the two are entirely seperate things.

I think it's highly probable that the program itself, and the aim to capture evidence of paranormal phenomenon on film, is genuine. The crew genuinely get scared, they are spending the night in supposedly haunted locations and capture some interesting things on film, but what they do find isn't particularly convincing enough to say one way or the other.

They don't claim outright that the limited evidence they do find is really proof of ghosts - they even invite a parapsychologist in at the end of every episode to basically debunk everything they've found. Invstigations are carried out in a methodical manner, which suggests a serious attempt at obtaining evidence of paranormal phenomena.

The rest of the show is filled up with the Derek Acorah element, which is the part that is questionnable in my mind. I don't know if he is genuine or not, he could be researching the information beforehand, and he could be a complete fraud. If he really is a fraud, do the rest of the crew know that ? Is he stringing everyone along ?

I think the real question of authenticity comes down to whether or not Derek Acorah is genuine, not whether or not the programme as a whole is hoaxed. The crew really do go to these locations, and they are genuinely scared, which is why the programme is still so entertaining to watch - but whether Derek is really communicating with spirits - that's a different matter entirely.

Hi Saruman,

Hi Saruman,

I'll agree with Saruman here. The distinction of the investigation from the evidence which Derek Acorah produces is important. I find Derek quite watchable and entertaining, and have even seen his show live, but as with any medium, there is always going to be the question of doubt and fraud. It's inescapable.

I also agree with Hammy's Teddy about the disappointing lack of scientific integrity - time and time again they fail to make proper checks and conditions to prove what they are intending to prove.

Well I agree with Saruman and LB.
I find the show whole entertaining down to Yvette screaming, crying and jumping at every turn (definetly not faked) all the crew doing a Blair Witch Project style when they go to the rooms alone jumping and asking..." Is anybody there" I must admit Derek is a little camp and I'm getting fed up with his "Possesions" but it all adds to the entertainment Which is what it is....Pure Entertainment! Thats why I and thousands like me watch it.....I wouldn't have it any other way

Perhaps I was a little unfair with respect to the Most Haunted crew. I certainly do find the programme interesting to watch at times, but maybe the lack of really startling evidence over three series has dented my enthusiasm to some degree.

As for Derek Acorah, all I can say is that it is all too easy to ridicule someone in his position. The problem with doing this is that we have absolutely no idea whether he has researched anything or not. Until we do, it is best to keep an open mind.

The debate will go on. I don't really mind either way. I just love it.

It is my favourite programme. Hope it keeps going.

After watching the Summer Soltice live thing,i couldnt help but think how fake it all seemed.
When they took the members of the public on site with them,i thought that yvette fielding seemed a lot more scared than them,and couldnt help but think her fear seemed a bit of an act with the crying and all.
I do agree that the Most Haunted crew should start filming in private locations,were the history of the building/hauntings etc.. isnt public knowledge,then that part of the arguement could be put to rest.

When the series started, the were visiting certain palces that were not as well known.
I still maintain that there are plenty of places that are supposedly very active that are not in the public domain.
On the Most Haunted Forum, the mods used to ask for ideas for new locations - but now they dont. Bad idea. Plenty of people used to post suggestions about private houses..........

And if anyone is tempted to look a the forum - be warned. It is NOT a nice place.

Hammy x x x

PS - FTN are re-running series 1 most nights with the lovely Jason Karl!

Well my friend has given me a tape of Series 4 and I'm watching them.

I think that there are moments in these episodes which make me believe that the experiences are not fake at all. I know I might be a sucker, but I'm judging on what I see and how I think of the whole series.

For example in Croxteth Hall, there were noises where it appeared there was nobody present to cause them. In another one in the Welsh mansion where the opera diva lived (forgot the name) there were distinct sounds that were just odd.
Then there was the 'Manor House' with the TV and the bang and 3 adult men losing it in seconds. For them to allow themselves to be seen crying and freaking out openly, well that means a lot, quite frankly.

To add more credence, each location seems to be slightly different - that makes any fraudsters very creative. I'm still sitting on the 'it's presented as it happens and is not faked' side of the fence....

I find that when something happens the camera is never on the spot. U see the orbs and here sounds but i'm not really sure if it is fake. As for the live shows, they annoy me more than n e thing. u spend most of the time watchin the audiance and the presenters back at the base and not enough time with the rest of the crew out in the field . I still watch them all the same.

I agree about the live shows. They are annoying, as well as that presenter. They cut away from the team when the goods are getting delivered and then get all excited because someone drew a purty picture. I mean, for God's sake.

The episodal series is the best. The live shows are the worst.

I preferred the earlier series' the ones where Derek only made a brief appearance at the begining of each episode. I think he's the weakest link in what is generally an entertaining program.

I began watching Most Hauned and thought their attempts to investigate possible hauntings were done in a fairly serious manner. I have been a fan of Derek Acorah for many years and believe his ability is genuine. The investigators ( the real ones) are definately interested in discovering and proving paranormal phenomena for their viewers and of course themselves. For me the big problem is the production team who have created this excellent idea and turned it in to one big joke. This is obviously the case, just about every board you visit has the same threads as to how genuine the program is.

Miss Fielding may have connections with the director...and indeed be the exec producer but she needs to get back to kids TV and leave a serious subject to those who really care. Unfortunately certain video material that I have been given is not something I can share on the web. Had I been able to share the clips I have, this thread would come to a sudden halt and the question answered.

Derek Acorah has been turned in to showman of rediculous proportions. They take bets on what crazy things he can come up with, giggling hysterically in the background as he does his thing. Why he has taken this route for his career is beyond me.

All the footage you see in the series is actually done with all the lights on. They then edit the recording to make it look like it has been recorded in night-vision.....very clever.

Unfortunately this show has spiralled in to big joke, nobody watches it for the real reason of paranormal investigations, they watch it for a good laugh.

Such a shame that a great idea that should be treated seriously has been turned in to a farce.

i disagree about the crew always jumping to the conclusion that a sound is paranormal. yvette, esp. lately, has suggested perfectly rational explanations. whether this is to make it all the more convincing i dont know but im keeping an open mind. for now id like to give them the benefit of the doubt, innocent till proven guilty!!

But don't you think that the fact that ppl with Phd's in Pyschology i.e. Dr Mathew Smith get involved says something for the credibilty of the programme?

Would they really have anything to do with it if they knew it was a farce? They've dedicated their careers to researching into the paranormal.... i don't reckon they would get involved if they thought it was fake and risk lossing credibily in their field.

I really don't think they would encourage something that belittles paranormal investigation but maybe they get paid sh** loads.....? What do you think???

yup well... I think there are parts of most haunted which are fake... I dont rly love the program but yet I find myself watching it just to laugh at derek ocora lol

I watched the whole weekend just to see the part when he and Yvette were standing in the attick space of the manchester night club when he turned to say... "he wishes to be (big deep voice) LEFT ALONE!" she s**t herself lol
he then pretended to be possest, (not convincing at all)

1. Derek is making alot of money out of his "act", u can tell, just look at the rings/ear ring clothes he wears. I believe he is just one big crappy actor.

2. I dont think they stage theyre own stuff, because well... when I watched that top 10 weekend, what was on it? few bumps (could have been anything) few orbs nothing major... on the other hand when they themselves clame to have seen something, funny how the vid cam was on them and not the ghost?

3. the only thing ive seen on most haunted which is scary is in a hotel (cant remember where) where they showed a chair and bed move very slowly on there own.

4. Arent they suppose to be searching for the truth about ghosts? well if thats so, why the hell do they keep running away from it when they have a chance to see what it is... its like almost every episode has someone saying (I dont like it here, im not going down there?) or Yvette screaming and running away (with the rest of the crew behind her) u would think ghost hunters would be alittle more brave?

its such a stupid show, but I cant help not watch it coz its funny to watch derek get so many things wrong and pretend to be possest lol sometimes u c something but thats very rare

Hi
i am the webmaster of BadPsychics

Along with some great reporters, i have managed to get a lot of mistakes and cock ups made by derek acorah on MH.

i honestly cant see how after reading all the mistakes derek has made, anyone can believe what he says,

I have also seens a lot of unedited footage from MH, i am guessing Phenomenon has seen something i have passed about.

I fully expect Most Haunted to be finished within the next few months.

too many people know the truth, too many mistakes have been made, and too much unedited footage has made its way into the public domain.

Also phenomenon is right partly about them faking the night vision.

This isnt always the case, usually on Most Haunted live, they just had a digital effect to the screen or a simple green tint to replicate night visiion,

either way, its never as dark as they make it out to be, even if they are using genuine night vision, they can see fine..

Phenomenon,

please contact me through my site if you have anything i dont,

maybe we can swap some info.

Is most haunted fake...?

Is the Pope a Catholic?

OK if all this evidence has been put out into the public domain already share it with the board.

I tend to the idea the MH is probably fake or at the least stretches the facts to support its own theory so to speak but I'm amused by the skeptics who demand proof to the nth degree about claims of paranormal ability who are just peachy keen to accept the word of someone who claims something is fake.

Share!

A lot of people are saying MH might be genuine because you don't actually ever see any ghosts on camera, and if it were faked, they would stage an image of something spooky.

My argument is, on the contrary, if they went as far as faking a ghostly image, it would be all too easy to analyse the footage and prove without shadow of doubt that the show is a total con.

So rather than fake images (which can never be convincing) they prefer to over act and display emotions of shock and fear. Yvette Fielding is herself a trained actress, but her acting ability on MH leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps its *her* that is the ghost, because I can see right through her!

It's all very well coming onto this thread and citing evidence that debunks Most Haunted, but not actually providing the evidence itself or even explaining what it is. That's fairly disappointing.

And to be honest, not very convincing.

I agree with Spectral - share...

Hey Hammy good question

Well I've seen a lot of the MH stuff on Ftn and LivingTV and in general I'd say it's a good and entertaining show, but I have a couple of issues with it.

1 - Lack of rigor in the experiments, particularly the locked-off cameras (Ok it's understandable in series 1). If the cameras only have a limited field of view why only use one? - I'm particularly thinking of the moving bed and moving cross/paper incidents. You would think that after one such incident they'd be more carefull - particularly if you want to prove ghosts exist. Interesting to see that they FINALLY used thermal imaging cameras on MH live last night , I'd be very happy indeed if they started using those in their lock-down situtations.

2 - Orbs (ok it's an issue I have ) a lack of willingness to explain that orbs might just be an ickle bit of dust floating in front of the lens, esp. as the light source is so close to the lens. I think it was on the first series that Yvette said something along the lines of "Orbs - which no-one has been able produce an explanation for" - I almost choked on my cup of tea. All that need to be said was that some people consider them to be spirit entities and others say it's just bits of dust.


Derek - geniune or not? I can't really say. But then if he's not (and hasn't done research - or been told) he's very good indeed at picking stuff up from conversations and the surroundings. Has to be said though that is skill posessed by a fair few supposed Psychics.

I must admit I've heard rumours (outside of this forum) that MH is scripted.

BTW don't know if it's been mentioned elsewhere but Phil's new show is called Spirit Seekers its web-site is at http://www.spirit-seekers.co.uk/

Whether it's made up or not I still enjoy watching it so there

Hi Algie ~ long time no see

I am in complete agreement with you!
Teddy gets so cross with me cos I watch it because he doesn't believe that any of the 'experiments' are controlled.
He is right. Bless him!
We need to see more scientific examinations of the buildings. I'd like to see a full scan for EMF and a scan for low level sound waves and background radiation, as well as checks for fault-lines in the area.
I would also like to see proper vigils - not some dizzy mares running around squealing and wetting themselves!
That said, the show is pure entertainment. There have been several wild claims of in-side information and un-edited footage - but like the claim of paranormal activity - there has been no evidence to back this up.

Hammy x x x

Yeah, it's been a while Must admit it was whist watching MH Live the other night that I thought to myself must pay UM a visit and see whats going on.

I guess the problem with doing a really in-depth ghost hunt programme is that LivingTV will start to worry about it turning into a doucmentary instead of entertainment and that people might not watch it . Mind you they can rest assured that I'd still watch it.

Will be interesting to see what Phil does with this spirit-seekers programme.

Newbie alert - please be kind!

I decided to register because I had this very conversation with the other half tonight. I am fairly open minded on stuff, and won't readily believe or disbelieve anything I see on TV. Tonight was the first time I saw MH...yes, it was amusing but they did the "use our collective energies to move the table" which then moved upwards by about a millimeter. I think Derren Brown did something recently which showed that if your mind is focused in a certain direction, you can kid yourself into believing that something paranormal is happening when it's not.

Okay, so it might have been something moving the table, but judging from the comments I've read on this board, I'm more inclined to think that it was someone tipping the table with their fingers.

I do believe in ghosts, I do believe in paranormal phenomena...I just don't believe MH really. That aside, it was a good laugh. After all, life would be boring if you took it ALL seriously wouldn't it?

Last night's show was.......interesting. That parapsychology guy seemed to be suggesting that some boiler (or whatever it was) accounted for the knocks that Derek and Richard heard above them, but I am not so sure. The knocks seemed to be a direct response to questions, rather than random occurrences.

As for the table, that didn't convince me AT ALL. However, I would like to state that several members of my family attempted this when I was very young, and they apparently had the table IN THE AIR, with a strange white mist around it. My father was one of those doing the experiment, and he is very careful not to jump to conclusions, so I believe that something paranormal must have occurred that night.

Table turning is the result of the groups' physco-kinetic energies, rather like the way a glass moves, or a planchette on a ouija board. When I was a student we attempted this and the heavy table we were using felt as if it was stuck to our fingertips, and was approx 4 foot off the floor.

I think Ceiran O'Keefe is much better than Phil, and is always trying to come up with a logical explaination...........and is it just me or does he look like Catbert?



Hammy x x x

Catbert can't say as I've thought that, maybe if he was wearing glasses, hmm... yeah maybe...

Looky!!!

He is the image of Catbert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seem very sure of something that hasn't been scientifically proven.