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chupa
Talk about roswell.
moe eubleck
The roswell crahs is just another reason why Aliens should not drink and saucer.
Sweetpumper
I believe it happened.
BurnSide
Something happened of course, otherwise we'd not be talking about it, but there were no 'Aliens' involved.
DukeofNoodleness
I'm not sure what the hell to think. Theres too many different stories.
aquatus1
Investigative journalists are entirely too curious to let a story like this stay hidden. The reason we haven't heard anything is because any decent journalist that has gone to investigate has felt his BS detector tingling at the stories and given up in disgust.
STIX
QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jul 6 2004, 01:41 PM)
Something happened of course, otherwise we'd not be talking about it, but there were no 'Aliens' involved.

how do you know?
you dont, so dont act like you do


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I think that something did happen, something that was so important that it warranted for numerous coverups and explanations. If you look at the variety of different stories the US military has spewed out about the incident it is clearly obvious that they are trying to hide something. I for one believe that there exists such a thing as human sincerity in this world, and when I watched a documentary where they interviewed the daughter of one of the men who had "wreckage" and apparantly saw the aliens from the crash that is what I saw, sincerity and a true desire to expose the truth. Of couse there are good actors also...but I dont see what else could warrant such high precautions and security such as that which was displayed at Roswell other than an extraterrestrial encounter...if you can provide an alternative scenario that makes sence then by all means please do tell...but if one did exist then why hasnt it been leaked yet?
BurnSide
Actually i do know. It's because i'm not gullible to media, i do have an IQ over 100 and Aliens, IF they have ever visited us, would not travel milions of lighyears in super advanced technology to crash, and the debris would not have TIN FOIL and PLASTIC in it.

Common smegging sense.
Mutant Snake
I believe something happened, but as to whether or not aliens were involved, I can't say.
BurnSide
Going back on what i said, it may have been unfair and i apologise for that.

In my humble opinion, there were no aliens involved, but that is not to say there weren't, i do not know any more of the story that anyone else.
Blood Angel
Read my editorial on roswell, which involves manmade craft just recently submitted on the forum. Or see it at my site.

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DukeofNoodleness
QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jul 7 2004, 03:53 PM)
Common smegging sense.

You like Red Dwarf my son thumbsup.gif

I agree with you on the fact that it would not have Plastic on it. I too have an IQ of over 100.. rolleyes.gif 165 at last count. clap.gif I think most people do tongue.gif
the master theologian
Rosswell? There are bigger and more mysterious crashes...
Its just that none of us know about them. The government
got clumsy at Rosswell. Thats why we know without a doubt
that a flying saucer (not a ballon) crashed there.
BurnSide
The government got clumsy, and that is the reason we know without a doubt that an alien spacecraft from another galaxie crashes there??



RRRRRIIIIGGGHHHHHHTTTTTTTT.......


Hangar, it's ALL about red dwarf!!
the master theologian
No.... Thats JUST IT! You don't know if they
are aliens!!! What is your guess? That they're from
another galaxy? Thats not my theory.
Alright... Alright... Take it easy Norm.... Take it
easy... No need to- No need to- can't control- Wait....
No.. .Not now! No! I got a g--- Ah-- Yea- Oh, Ah, Uhhm...
...........
............. I took a dump!
BurnSide
Damn! You could have held it!


During the last 60 years, starting at the time of Roswell, the American Government has been inventing new flight technology for war. This is what the cold war was about. The reason for all the secrecy is because the US government did not want information getting into the Russian spies hands, because then the Russians would have the same technology and, well, the US probably would be the US right now if that happened.

Aliens. Pft.
Sunlit_Coyote
Oh yes it happened ........ not sure what but something sure did !!
_shaun_
i heard that nasa is coming out with a new space craft that was actually made from UFO technology from the roswell crash

hey burnSide, in your avator isnt that the detective from the animatrix?
DukeofNoodleness
QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jul 8 2004, 03:23 PM)
The government got clumsy, and that is the reason we know without a doubt that an alien spacecraft from another galaxie crashes there??



RRRRRIIIIGGGHHHHHHTTTTTTTT.......


Hangar, it's ALL about red dwarf!!

I'm starting to like ya kid wink2.gif

Actually, you're probably a lot older than me blush.gif
earthygirl04
I have always believed that the incedient at Roswell was a cover up by the Government, about a UFO crash. As for any Aliens found alive, well, that I couldn't say. Hpwever, I saw a documentation last night on this subject. There were three people that were interviewed, all were very old (naturally). (Just to let everyone know these two men were not interviewed togther, and lived in two different places far away from each other) One old man said that he was there and witnessed it all. The old man said that yes there was UFO and aliens, 3 were dead and 2 were still alive. He said after witnesing this he was threatened by higher government officials to keep his mouth shut. He said that he was threatened and told if he said anything to anyone about what he saw, he would be locked in Ft. Leonardworth Prison for the rest of his life. When asked why he now was telling what he saw, he said, "I kept quite about this until last year, and I think it's time everyone knows the truth. I'm old now and I want people to know that it really did happen, and the government knows." This was that old mans first and only time to testify of what he saw at Roswell. He won't consent to another interview. (I think the government got to him after the first interview!) The second old man said, he didn't actually get to see the aliens, but he was outside the room when a nurse came out crying, when he asked what was wrong, she said," I was forced to assist in the alien autopsy!" She ran off crying. The old man said when he tried to go into the room he was stoped by a government officer who threatened him and told him to leave. Otherwise, the government officer told him, he would be buried deep in the desert where no one would find him! (What was being hid? Why did a nurse come flying out of the room, crying and talking about an Alien autopsy?) disgust.gif
Yes, I believe it happened.... I have always believed it was true....but that's just my oppinion. cool.gif

BurnSide
QUOTE (DukeofNoodleness @ Jul 14 2004, 02:27 PM)

I'm starting to like ya kid wink2.gif

Actually, you're probably a lot older than me blush.gif

hahah glad to hear it.

I am, three years older than you.

Kid. ha!
neosnightmare
there was definately something that happened. i was watching tv last night and i saw a program on rosswell. theres still evidence being collected on the event. the part that struck me as odd was that the governor himself was interested in finding the truth...very interested. it may be nothing. but it was just odd that the governor of new mexico was "very interested" in uncovering a government coverup.
DukeofNoodleness
QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jul 15 2004, 02:14 AM)
QUOTE (DukeofNoodleness @ Jul 14 2004, 02:27 PM)

I'm starting to like ya kid wink2.gif

Actually, you're probably a lot older than me blush.gif

hahah glad to hear it.

I am, three years older than you.

Kid. ha!

Three's not a lot wink2.gif
BurnSide
Yeah i know, but you're more of a kid than me. original.gif
earthygirl04
grin2.gif I've got you both beat!!! I'm 37, I was born in September 1966.... Hummm......I don't know if that's a good thing or not? huh.gif 'cause I'm getting old!! crying.gif
earthygirl04
QUOTE
there was definately something that happened. i was watching tv last night and i saw a program on rosswell. theres still evidence being collected on the event. the part that struck me as odd was that the governor himself was interested in finding the truth...very interested. it may be nothing. but it was just odd that the governor of new mexico was "very interested" in uncovering a government coverup.


I think that's odd too.
Also, why won't they let anyone in area 51 to see for themselves, whether they're hiding Aliens (dead or alive) ?? Why keep every body out, if there's nothing to hide? There must be something there they don't want us to know about.. disgust.gif

Has anyone noticed all the UFO movies that has been on TV recently? And all the new movies that are coming out having to do with Aliens? Strange, huh? Maybe it's a warning? Maybe someone has found out the truth and is trying to warn everyone, without being caught by the Government for telling us all?Hummmm? huh.gif


Falco Rex
There's a very simple reason you can't get into Area 51 to look around. It's a military installation. Try just walking onto a regular army base sometime and see how far you get, never mind a base where they work on top secret technology.
That's the reason for all the secrecy. Should we allow just anybody to walk in and see what the Air Force is working on? I'd feel real safe knowing every other country in the world could check out our emerging technologies..
I don't know how this one truth leads people to believe the rumor that Aliens are hid there. I'll bet the Government just loves people who latch right on to this silly story though. While they're up in arms over the "Truth" about Aliens, they completely ignore everything that might really be going on there...
Thanato
Yes something did happen and it wasnt a weather balloon as they claimed, It wasnt some cold war spy plane or secret plane because the Cold War wasnt on then.

I watched a show about it and they took one of the famuse Roswell pictures (the one were the General is showing some of the metal foil , and he has a note in his hand, and the picture has the top part of the note facing the camera) to a person who can inhace images and he found out what most of the message said. It said something about three bodys being transfured to some were in Washington DC. I also watched another show and it had a former head of the MoD (British Ministry of Defence) say that there are Aliens and they have come to Earth, and that the Governments should release the information on them.

~Thanato
BurnSide
QUOTE (_shaun_ @ Jul 14 2004, 02:14 PM)

hey burnSide, in your avator isnt that the detective from the animatrix?

sorry, didn't see your post until now.

yes it is. original.gif
earthygirl04
QUOTE
I watched a show about it and they took one of the famuse Roswell pictures (the one were the General is showing some of the metal foil , and he has a note in his hand, and the picture has the top part of the note facing the camera) to a person who can inhace images and he found out what most of the message said. It said something about three bodys being transfured to some were in Washington DC. I also watched another show and it had a former head of the MoD (British Ministry of Defence) say that there are Aliens and they have come to Earth, and that the Governments should release the information on them.
I saw that too! The note in the General's hand, after being inhanced, showed that it was talking about "Disks" "Bodies" and taking the "Bodies" to be placed else where.
scorpion_vuk
Ok chupa, you want me to talk about Roswell. Roswell is a city in Chaves County in the southeastern quarter of the state of New Mexico, USA. As of the 2005 census estimate, the population was 45,199, making it New Mexico's fifth largest city. It is a center for irrigation farming, dairying, ranching, manufacturing, distribution, and petroleum production. It is also the home of New Mexico Military Institute, founded in 1891. Bitter Lake National Wildlife Refuge is located a few miles northeast of the city on the Pecos River.

scorpion_vuk
and tell me chupa, whats up with your signature anyway. if you sweared to the admin as i heard you disserve a ban from posting. i also heared that you were banned from the chat because you made fun of the admin.
MVxK
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jul 7 2004, 02:53 PM) [snapback]203549[/snapback]

Actually i do know. It's because i'm not gullible to media, i do have an IQ over 100 and Aliens, IF they have ever visited us, would not travel milions of lighyears in super advanced technology to crash, and the debris would not have TIN FOIL and PLASTIC in it.

Common smegging sense.


Innit!!! Couldn't have put it better myself.
morrison1976
I suggest you look into the case a bit more!
skyeagle409
QUOTE
name='chupa' date='Jul 6 2004, 07:36 PM' post='203028']
Talk about roswell.



Poll: U.S. hiding knowledge of aliens

http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/15/ufo.poll/
victcha
hey anyone that one know some rather interresting FACTS about the roswell case....
take a look at this

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2299465543396356346

anther thing.... someone wonder why the goverment would be keeping ufo a secret...?
i belive its many reasons but one big one is OIL.....

senario: a UFO crashes. this UFO comes from far far a way, maybe never never land...
sooo logically the UFO is using a diffrent way of transportation than we do...
probably not OIL... cos OIL wouldnt get you across the univers, there isnt enough OIL to travle that far.
so therefor thise UFO are driven by some other force... some energy force there is a lot a lot a lot of... there must be cos how else could they travle so fast and so far....
and thise enegy sources that we supposedly havent discoverd yet..... but maybe we have.... cos if thise amasing UFOs have been in the governementes hands sins the 50ies there is no way they havent explored everything about the machines, and maybe... maybe maybe know how to they work, even how to operate them... maybe even how to build them...

sooo why not tell us all about the good news: that we are not alone in the universe?!? why not tell us about our lovely neighbours that just poped down cos they were conserned about us, sins we seem to be destoying our planet. and why not tell us about thise really si fy amasing cool new aircrafts we could build so we could stop burning oil and kill the insects?

well maybe becos if we could get transportation and electicety in a newer more economic way, through energysouces that we have in abundace we wouldent need oil or gas or all thise other horrible things....

BUT if we didnt need OIL... then where goes the power hungry men that rule this world....


senario over.
i might be a bit out there tongue.gif

but it could be, like so much else could be...........


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Arthuria
Theoretical, a saucer crashes on a less developed society...The military gets hold of both technology & pilots of the craft & as it turns out, they are galactic travelers from a highly advanced civilization from another world. But here's the logic - doesn't anyone ever consider that their civilization would actually send others to reclaim them & bring them back? Also consider, why would that civilization have any reason to work with a military that's far less developed?

Enthusiasts pride themselves for thinking that the US Military is actually worthy of the attention of a highly advanced civilization during that time...It was the late forties, the people of the time possessed a severely narrow view of their place in the cosmos, even amongst its leaders. If the military got hold of this technology, I would speculate it wouldn't be in their possession for long - which brings me to Roswell...I honestly don't think the crash was alien in nature, but something experimental developed by the US military. Think about it, it was right after WW2, & it's known that ex-nazi scientists were brought to the states - I'll accept the crash as being something created by them under the direction the US military more-so than an alien conspiracy.

I vote no.
skyeagle409
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name='Arthuria' date='Nov 22 2006, 11:34 PM' post='1436022']
I would speculate it wouldn't be in their possession for long - which brings me to Roswell...I honestly don't think the crash was alien in nature, but something experimental developed by the US military. Think about it, it was right after WW2, & it's known that ex-nazi scientists were brought to the states - I'll accept the crash as being something created by them under the direction the US military more-so than an alien conspiracy.


What crashed at the two crash sites had nothing to do with the military simply because the military was totally unaware of any crash until notified by a civilian. If it were a secret aircraft of the military, then the military wouldn't have waited for civilians to tell them that their secret aircraft had crashed and I am very sure the military would have known beforehand if a secret project of theirs had crashed.

Eventually, secret aircraft are revealed as was the case with the U-2, A-12, F-117, Have Blue, Tacit Blue, B-2 bomber, and even the so-called "Aurora" back in the early 1990's on CNN, which was revealed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer, but what was it that was so advanced and exotic back in 1947, that it requires the government to keep it a secret to this very day?
morrison1976
QUOTE
What crashed at the two crash sites had nothing to do with the military simply because the military was totally unaware of any crash until notified by a civilian. If it were a secret aircraft of the military, then the military wouldn't have waited to civilians to tell them that their secret aircraft had crashed and I am very sure the military would have known beforehand if a secret project of theirs had crashed.


Thats true. They new nothing about it!
skyeagle409
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name='morrison1976' date='Nov 23 2006, 03:27 AM' post='1436229']
Thats true. They new nothing about it!


All of those secret aircraft revealed over the years and the Air Force is still covering up events that happened in regards to the Roswell incident way back in 1947.
morrison1976
One thing i do know. If this is true, and the government are covering it up, then i will consider them criminals and gangsters who are using this new technology for there own destructive means, when they could be making this world a better place.
WereScrib
Whoa.. Whoa.. You people think the military branches communicate with each other? Do you have any idea how much competition was going on at that time? It was like the CIA and FBI, they would not share information. I'm not sure when the AAC was disbanded, but at one point in time the Navy, the Army Air Corp, the Air Force, and the Air National Guard all were in a small war of their own. Then there are hordes of secret little divisions. All with loyalty to someone else.

I mean, look out here in the Puget Sound, Keyport Naval base keeps it's secret programs far from the eyes of Bangor Subase, which is within walking distance of it. Then PSNS is seperate still, and classifies ~Watch Tower~ design so other bases can't steal their ideas. And that is within a single branch of the military.

Remember, Red Tape is more powerful than any army.
Star_girl
Something happened there why else would they try so hard to give an explaination?
Behind all myths is a grain of truth (or so they say original.gif )
morrison1976
yes, something did happen:)
SOUL-DRIFTER
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jul 7 2004, 05:39 AM) [snapback]203467[/snapback]

Investigative journalists are entirely too curious to let a story like this stay hidden. The reason we haven't heard anything is because any decent journalist that has gone to investigate has felt his BS detector tingling at the stories and given up in disgust.


A journalist can only open so many doors.
There are somed things hidden behind doors a journalist can not open, try as he may.
aquatus1
QUOTE(SOUL-DRIFTER @ Nov 23 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]1436637[/snapback]

A journalist can only open so many doors.
There are somed things hidden behind doors a journalist can not open, try as he may.


As opposed to the kids here on the internet, who apparently have access to everything they need.
hazzard
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Nov 23 2006, 02:54 PM) [snapback]1436642[/snapback]

As opposed to the kids here on the internet, who apparently have access to everything they need.


True! grin2.gif
skyeagle409
QUOTE
name='SOUL-DRIFTER' date='Nov 23 2006, 01:49 PM' post='1436637']
A journalist can only open so many doors.
There are somed things hidden behind doors a journalist can not open, try as he may.


DITTO!!
rapid7

As long as you're specific to details, subtle and trustworthy- People will and do talk in private and off the record. I mean, you certainly don't go up to someone, say in the military and say something like-
"Hey, tell me everything you know about UFO's and aliens? Oh and remember the burden of proof is on you to back up your claim" mellow.gif

Of course, by the same token you don't automatically accept what they’re saying is true but if it ties in with other information (ie facts) then it can be extremely helpful.
Sam Willey
"Roswell - It really Happened" - Thats the title of Jesse Marcel Jr's new book and i totally agree with that title! original.gif
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