For a start i dont want to talk to any of you people who think that because you sleep in a box, suck blood and hate garlic, your a vamp, your not.
The vamps im talkin about are the ones that look like normal people, psy vamps in a way, you drain energy from ppl instead of blood
im not a vamp, that i know of but a lot of vamps have said they reckon i mihgt be, but the all live in some other country so theyt wouldnt really know
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Full Version: Vampires. Im Talking About The Real Kind
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I was a vampire in a past life, like the ones on Interview with a Vampire 
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I believe some people really are Vampires....
Well, they suck anyway..
As far as the undead or psychic kinds. No comment is really necesary..
Well, they suck anyway..
As far as the undead or psychic kinds. No comment is really necesary..
Yeah, You All Think Im A Crazy <CENSORED> Dont Ya, To Bad
Hope Your Reality Turns Out Good
Vamps can drink blood, but the ones who do it just cause they like the taste are sik freaks
Edit: DON"T USE BAD WORDS!
Hope Your Reality Turns Out Good
Vamps can drink blood, but the ones who do it just cause they like the taste are sik freaks
Edit: DON"T USE BAD WORDS!
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Ummmm.....yes
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ME AGAIN:
"I was a vampire in a past life, like the ones on Interview with a Vampire."
PERSONAL COMMENT: Of course.
ME AGAIN:
"I was a vampire in a past life, like the ones on Interview with a Vampire."
PERSONAL COMMENT: Of course.
| QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jul 8 2004, 08:26 PM) |
| *slaps forehead* *repeatedly* *hard* |
LOL Burnsey I've done that myself on occasion
Dot
| QUOTE (Skitz @ Jul 9 2004, 05:51 AM) |
| Hope Your Reality Turns Out Good |
My reality is just fine, thanks for asking.
Vampires in the classical sense are fictional beings, but like much fiction is based on a tiny grain of reality...As this has been covered in other threads ad infinitum I will leave it to you to use the search function to learn more about the medical conditions that inspire the classical concepts of a vampire.
As for psychic vampires, it is more of the same fiction. The term is commonly applied to people who are "draining" to be around. There is no psychic aspect to the matter; nothing magical or undead either. There are other terms applied to these same "draining" people, but none come to mind that are appropriate for this forum. (think: jack@ss)
There is a surprisingly large number of youths who consider vampires to be a very real thing, but then again kids are gullible that way.
I know a lot of information on the lore that is vampires. I think they could be very real, weather sucking blood or draining energy. Just read the Vampire Encyclopedia 
| QUOTE (fluffybunny @ Jul 9 2004, 03:13 PM) |
| There is a surprisingly large number of youths who consider vampires to be a very real thing, but then again kids are gullible that way. |
Well, there are an amazingly large number of people who believe that a God exists, yet they have never seen Him/Her/It and there is no scientific proof to prove their is a God. Does that mean they are simply gullible?
I'm not denying the existance of a Supreme Being. But saying someone is gullible just because they believe something you do not. . . .That's beyond logical skeptecism.
And, drawing from my research on vampires, there is a distinction between "real" vampires and the ones in fiction. "Real" vampires are humans. They are not the Undead. They do not have unbelievably superhuman powers. They simply live a different lifestyle than most do. Now, I know there are some out there who believe they are vampires and believe they can fly or their face morphs during the Thirst, or share other characteristics from fiction. In majority, though, they are simply "normal" people with an abnormal way of seeing themselves and the world around them.
How can you be a vampire in a past life? Vampires are immortal? They don't die...
And I have a question: if vampires suck blood up through their elongated canines, how come their blood doesn't drip out of them when they're not sucking blood? Or is it that they use their elongated canines to pierce the blood vessel and then ingest it in a 'normal' fashion?
Yes I've had wine...
I'm fairly certain they don't have hollow canines. . . . I've heard that theory/interpretation/whatever many times, though, usually stated or asked with confusion. Vampires, in the traditional sense, bite their victims to puncture the skin and suck the blood into their mouths.
Again, that's more fictional than anything else, because most "real" vampires (see definition above) not not bite to get blood. They tend to use razors and many times their blood givers are willing doners.
And about being a reborn vampire. . . . .I'm not saying I believe in them, but immortality in cases such as vampires wouldn't stand in their way. Vampires are immortal, meaning they do not die of aging. They can be killed, though, and therefore CAN die. Anne Rice, I believe, allows her vampires to die by fire or by sunlight exposure. Therefore, if Me Again believes they are a reborn vampire, defined by the same laws created by Anne Rice in her fictional works, it would be possible. . . . . in the perameters of fiction, at least.
Again, that's more fictional than anything else, because most "real" vampires (see definition above) not not bite to get blood. They tend to use razors and many times their blood givers are willing doners.
And about being a reborn vampire. . . . .I'm not saying I believe in them, but immortality in cases such as vampires wouldn't stand in their way. Vampires are immortal, meaning they do not die of aging. They can be killed, though, and therefore CAN die. Anne Rice, I believe, allows her vampires to die by fire or by sunlight exposure. Therefore, if Me Again believes they are a reborn vampire, defined by the same laws created by Anne Rice in her fictional works, it would be possible. . . . . in the perameters of fiction, at least.
| QUOTE (Loonboy @ Jul 9 2004, 12:40 PM) |
| How can you be a vampire in a past life? Vampires are immortal? They don't die... And I have a question: if vampires suck blood up through their elongated canines, how come their blood doesn't drip out of them when they're not sucking blood? Or is it that they use their elongated canines to pierce the blood vessel and then ingest it in a 'normal' fashion? Yes I've had wine... |
Immortality does not grant invincibility; just the gift of never dying of old age. 'Vampires' can be slain just as a normal man can.
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| Well, there are an amazingly large number of people who believe that a God exists, yet they have never seen Him/Her/It and there is no scientific proof to prove their is a God. Does that mean they are simply gullible? I'm not denying the existance of a Supreme Being. But saying someone is gullible just because they believe something you do not. . . .That's beyond logical skeptecism. |
He isn't saying they're gullible because they believe. He's saying that they are gullible because they are young. They do not have the knowledge that comes with experience that adults have.
Fluffybunny is fairly well known for his objectivity. He pretty much says what he means. Taking his original statement, translating "kids" specifically to "people" in general through the use of a metaphor, then restating what he said using the metaphor as reference (instead of the original context)...that's a logical inconsistency. It's referred to as a straw man argument.
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| And, drawing from my research on vampires, there is a distinction between "real" vampires and the ones in fiction. "Real" vampires are humans. They are not the Undead. They do not have unbelievably superhuman powers. They simply live a different lifestyle than most do. Now, I know there are some out there who believe they are vampires and believe they can fly or their face morphs during the Thirst, or share other characteristics from fiction. In majority, though, they are simply "normal" people with an abnormal way of seeing themselves and the world around them. |
Exactly what research is this? What are your sources?
It sounds an awful lot like you are saying that what makes a 'real' vampire is seeing themselves and the world as if they were vampires and they enjoy drinking blood. That's not much of a definition. It doesn't seperate them from wanabe vampires.
What is the difference between this and VPD (Vampiric Personality Disorder).
| QUOTE (SerenitysRiver @ Jul 9 2004, 08:40 AM) |
| Does that mean they are simply gullible? |
You probably wouldn't like my answer on that either...
People that pretend to be a vampire, or consider themselves a vampire does not mean that vampires exist...They are fictional creatures. There is little difference between folks pretending to be vampires and every eight year old that is running around pretending to be able to shoot a web out of their wrist ala Spiderman...
my ex was a psy vamp.
she sucked my energy, money, and sense of humour right out of me.
when i have to talk to her now on the phone about anything, she still manages
to suck a lot of energy out of me.
fortunately, i now live with someone who regenerates my spirit on a daily basis.
but yeah,, they're out there.
she sucked my energy, money, and sense of humour right out of me.
when i have to talk to her now on the phone about anything, she still manages
to suck a lot of energy out of me.
fortunately, i now live with someone who regenerates my spirit on a daily basis.
but yeah,, they're out there.
| QUOTE (Skitz @ Jul 8 2004, 12:00 PM) |
| For a start i dont want to talk to any of you people who think that because you sleep in a box, suck blood and hate garlic, your a vamp, your not. The vamps im talkin about are the ones that look like normal people, psy vamps in a way, you drain energy from ppl instead of blood im not a vamp, that i know of but a lot of vamps have said they reckon i mihgt be, but the all live in some other country so theyt wouldnt really know LOVE LIFE, TRUST IN DEATH |
I've heard of psy vamps too, though that mostly might be because I spend to much time with Serenity, but oh well. acually it's creepy how normal "Vampires" really are. But they are truely Vampire, just not in the classical, romanticized sense of the word. Normal people living of the energies and emtions of other people. And this does not mean that they drain the other people. It just means they share what is esentially your life forse with you. Sigh, there's no good way to say that. Our english language isn't descriptive enough. we need to return to Latin. anyways off topic. I just though I'd pop in with what Serenity forgot to say (she does all the research except when it comes to dragons) Psy Vamps don't nessiccarly drain you, sometimes they don't even know what their doing. You don't have to feel it, but sometimes its just a tingle down your back, or maybe as strong a feeling as if you are stoned. Or drunk. that's my peice.
Hey Some People Actually Know What Im Talking About. Im Suprised That Not All People THink IM Mental. i knew there were people that would think that but i doubted id find them, jeceris can you get ur vamp frienmd to come on?
A vampire or "bloodist" is a person with the ability to absord energy from blood. Seeing that Blood is a symbol of life. Other stuffs would includ sensitivity and such. and for that one dude I dun think your crazy, everyone thinks im crazy 4 that and such, but im in this life time haha 
Yay 4 me!
"Bizzare" belifs are intresting so I and whoever else have them should carry on
Yay 4 me!
"Bizzare" belifs are intresting so I and whoever else have them should carry on
Ummm,OK ...Since you get energy by burning calories, wouldn't an actual vampire have to absorb heat rather than drink blood? Blood has no innate "energy" to absorb..
...Since you get energy by burning calories, wouldn't an actual vampire have to absorb heat rather than drink blood? Blood has no innate "energy" to absorb..
I am giving myself a mental shake, yet I wonder now if and how many calories are in blood ( 
thanks for making that random thought appear in my head Falco)
I disagree there have to be calories in blood for the simple reason that a diabetic measures blood sugar.
As far as vampires go I agree with fluffy
thanks for making that random thought appear in my head Falco) I disagree there have to be calories in blood for the simple reason that a diabetic measures blood sugar.
As far as vampires go I agree with fluffy
Yeah blood carries vitamins and minerals and the like, but it can only be processed by your own body. Consider how some blood transfusions fail, even if they're the same blood type. The only thing you can get out of someone else's blood are varying amounts of Metallic minerals like Iron. And drinking large amounts of blood can make you very ill..
You're not telling me that there's things out there that can physically live on symbolism alone?
I agree with Fluffy too, I was just trying to draw the Kooks out a little further..
Of course even if I do happen to be wrong about the blood thing, someone still has to adequately explain how merely drinking blood stops all cellular degeneration and enables you to walk around after you're dead and all..
You're not telling me that there's things out there that can physically live on symbolism alone?
I agree with Fluffy too, I was just trying to draw the Kooks out a little further..
Of course even if I do happen to be wrong about the blood thing, someone still has to adequately explain how merely drinking blood stops all cellular degeneration and enables you to walk around after you're dead and all..
| QUOTE (Falco Rex @ Jul 12 2004, 07:08 AM) |
| I agree with Fluffy too, I was just trying to draw the Kooks out a little further.. |
Naughty Falco
*Dot ponders the fact that that she is AB+ and a universal receiver....
Hmm. Could I be a Vampire? I am anemic, I stay up to all hours at night but it's 8:06 am and I haven't burst in to a ball of flame....Nope Guess not.
Yeah, but in legend Greek Vampires are different than the classical Western type of them, so maybe....Dun Dun Dunnnn!!
| QUOTE (Falco Rex @ Jul 12 2004, 08:12 AM) |
| Yeah, but in legend Greek Vampires are different than the classical Western type of them, so maybe....Dun Dun Dunnnn!! |
Falco Rex ! Are you making fun of my blood sucking ancsetor Vlad Papadopoulos
Vlad Popodopoulus, eh? He sounds terrifying! Don't feel bad Dot; I have cannibals in my family tree..
Here's a link on the Greek Vampire Myth if you're interested..
Vrykolakas
He sounds terrifying! Don't feel bad Dot; I have cannibals in my family tree..Here's a link on the Greek Vampire Myth if you're interested..
Vrykolakas
Very cool link Falco. I'm reading it now. I do have to tell you though, greeks are still very superstitious people today.
Dot9M
Very interesting. Here's a quote: Along with all this diversity, the hard and thorny road to becoming a vrykolakas had just as many turns. Lawson lists the following types of people in most danger of becoming revenants:
(1) Those who do not receive the full and due rites of burial.
(2) Those who meet with any sudden or violent death (including suicides), or, in Maina, where the vendetta is still in vogue, those who having been murdered remain unavenged.
(3) Children conceived or born on one of the great Church-festivals, and children stillborn.
(4) Those who die under a curse, especially the curse of a parent, or one self-invoked, as in the case of a man who, in perjuring himself, calls down on his own head all manner of damnation if what he says be false.
(5) Those who die under the ban of the Church, that is to say, excommunicate.
(6) Those who die unbaptised or apostate.
(7) Men of evil and immoral life in general, more particularly if they have dealt in the blacker kinds of sorcery.
(8) Those who have eaten the flesh of a sheep which was killed by a wolf.
(9) Those over whose dead bodies a cat or other animal has passed.
BTW - Tzatziki works on greek vampires, not just for souvlaki any more
Dot9M
Very interesting. Here's a quote: Along with all this diversity, the hard and thorny road to becoming a vrykolakas had just as many turns. Lawson lists the following types of people in most danger of becoming revenants:
(1) Those who do not receive the full and due rites of burial.
(2) Those who meet with any sudden or violent death (including suicides), or, in Maina, where the vendetta is still in vogue, those who having been murdered remain unavenged.
(3) Children conceived or born on one of the great Church-festivals, and children stillborn.
(4) Those who die under a curse, especially the curse of a parent, or one self-invoked, as in the case of a man who, in perjuring himself, calls down on his own head all manner of damnation if what he says be false.
(5) Those who die under the ban of the Church, that is to say, excommunicate.
(6) Those who die unbaptised or apostate.
(7) Men of evil and immoral life in general, more particularly if they have dealt in the blacker kinds of sorcery.
(8) Those who have eaten the flesh of a sheep which was killed by a wolf.
(9) Those over whose dead bodies a cat or other animal has passed.
BTW - Tzatziki works on greek vampires, not just for souvlaki any more
| QUOTE (fluffybunny @ Jul 9 2004, 07:23 PM) |
| People that pretend to be a vampire, or consider themselves a vampire does not mean that vampires exist...They are fictional creatures. |
Again, I think you're missing the definition of a "real" vampire. Vampires in FICTION live forever, are among the walking dead, drink blood to survive, are killed by direct contact with the sun, etc. Those are mythological and fictional. Some people believe they do or could exist. That is off topic, though.
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| For a start i dont want to talk to any of you people who think that because you sleep in a box, suck blood and hate garlic, your a vamp, your not. The vamps im talkin about are the ones that look like normal people, psy vamps in a way, you drain energy from ppl instead of blood |
The vampires discussed here are not the fictional kind. There are people out there who believe they are vampires. This is a simple fact. All that I have had contact with or have read about do not believe in the "walking dead" version of the vampire tale. They do not believe in the fictional stories created in mythology and popular literature. Fictional vampires are a seperate issue.
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| Exactly what research is this? What are your sources? |
My sources tend to be websites, chat sites where I am able to study the types of people who take on a vampire lifestyle, crime lab records documenting vampire killers (who are far from average in the "real" vampire community), and documentaries I have seen/books I have read over the years covering this topic.
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| It sounds an awful lot like you are saying that what makes a 'real' vampire is seeing themselves and the world as if they were vampires and they enjoy drinking blood. That's not much of a definition. It doesn't seperate them from wanabe vampires. |
How is that not "much of a definition"? It is a definition, just like any other. True, it does not seperate them much from so-called vampire wannabes. That is because some of the wannabes, as you call them, fit into this catagory. If they are sanguinarians, they fit into this catagory in at least some basic sense. "Real" vampires, seperating them from the impressions our culture has gained from both fiction and mythology, are normal humans who have a varying level of devotion in their lifestyle. Some have psychological disorders, others merely gain from the empowerment they feel by practicing vampiric activities. Some may be crazy and/or dangerous, while others use vampirism for spiritual and physical improvement, as long as it doesn't harm anoyone else.
Does that clear it up a bit? I hope so. I agree that the existence of immortal, fictional vampires is fairly preposterous, and anoyone who believes they share these supernatural qualities should be looked at with polite skepticism.
And VampChilde18. . . . . Thank you for trying to help. . . .And yet, your attempt makes me think of a certain quote involving Old Reliable and a geyser-dog.
The reason I said it wasn't much of a definition is because the use of the term 'vampire' implies a creature that sustains itself with the bodily fluids of another. This has been the only constant in the vampire legends from when they were simply what we would refer to as ghouls to the modern day Lestat.
You, apparently, wish to redefine the word. There really is no need. There are a variety of supernatural creatures out there who feed on nothing but the 'life force' of humans, yet look exactly like us in every other way.
In short, why hijack one category of monster to describe another one that is already in use?
You, apparently, wish to redefine the word. There really is no need. There are a variety of supernatural creatures out there who feed on nothing but the 'life force' of humans, yet look exactly like us in every other way.
In short, why hijack one category of monster to describe another one that is already in use?
| QUOTE (Falco Rex @ Jul 12 2004, 08:55 AM) |
| Vlad Popodopoulus, eh? He sounds terrifying! Don't feel bad Dot; I have cannibals in my family tree.. |
I want to hear more about the cannibals Falco
Dot9M
Sorry, but that would be off topic..
@ Falco
| QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Jul 12 2004, 07:39 PM) |
| You, apparently, wish to redefine the word. |
I'm not the one who redefined the term. People who live a sanguinarian lifestyle refer to themselves and are refered to as vampires. There is a difference between fiction and real-life, that is true. I'm not the one changing terms, though. I'm merely defining what is meant by a real vampire.
www.sanguinarius.org FAQ
Here's a quote from sanguinarius, under the definition of a real vampire. Click on the link below to read the rest. The link above will take you to the FAQ section.
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| By "vampire", I do not speak of the undead, or of supernatural creatures, or of immortal super-men, but of human beings who have the need to drain blood or psychic energy (or sometimes both or either) from others. There are sanguinarian vampires, who consume blood; there are psi-vampires, who need pranic energy (psychic energy); and there are those who drain either / or, interchangeably. |
| QUOTE (Skitz @ Jul 9 2004, 02:51 AM) |
| Vamps can drink blood, but the ones who do it just cause they like the taste are sik freaks |
thanks...thats a messed up thing to say...
| QUOTE (Janiel @ Jul 19 2004, 12:09 PM) | ||
thanks...thats a messed up thing to say... |
agreed, didnt u learn in preschool that its ok to be diffrent?
| QUOTE (catsrule52 @ Jul 20 2004, 03:49 PM) | ||||
agreed, didnt u learn in preschool that its ok to be diffrent? |
yea really...i mean shesh...so what if im different...
| QUOTE (Janiel @ Jul 21 2004, 10:32 PM) | ||||||
yea really...i mean shesh...so what if im different... |
exactly my lil fellow friend
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