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BurnSide
Yup, you're off to the Lake Hylia next, then up to the Zoras domain, collec the tears at the Domain to free them from the ice, then to Hyrule to save the Prince, and finally to the bottom of the lake to the underwater temple.



Main bad guy so far is a new guy from the Twilight World, Zant. He has crazy powers and has kicked my ass a couple times. I'm trying to reassemble a Twilight Mirror to imprison him back in the Twilight. However, after finishing the desert temple and finding the first shard of Mirror, the Sages told me of Gannondorf, and how they imprisoned him in the Mirror shortly after the events of Ocarina of Time. It's the same Gannon. I haven't heard more about that yet, but he does have the Triforce of Power, just as Link and Zelda also have Triforce parts. So i'm sure he'll be a boss at some point if not the last boss.
JeremyGTS
sounds awesome... i cant wait to get there for me i only get 2hrs a night to play cause my girlfriend goes to school at night and i work all day so its almost like watching a nightly show haha
BurnSide
Best way to play in my opinion. The game is about 50 hours long so put it this way, you have about 25 of the best interactive shows around to get through. grin2.gif
Hollywood Hughes
My mate has got if for his Wii and says it's awesome.
ShaunZero
Well, I got the game 2 days ago. And.. =/...

It's the BEST game I've ever played. No bull crap either. I've waited so long for a Zelda like this. Wind Waker was a letdown. It didn't actually feel like "Zelda" to me. This game has awesome graphics, GREAT gameplay, and very interesting dungeons and items. Every aspect of the game is perfect in my opinion. All of the old sound effects and music is back, which brings back memories of the legendary OoT. Link has a more mature and "tough" look to him this time around. The combat has a few changes and link has a pretty awesome 3 hit combo, and 6-7 different "secret" unlockable techniques such as the "Finishing Blow" and "Shield Attack". The combat just feels more intense on Twlight Princess. You can also do combat while riding Epona(Your horse), which is pretty awesome as well. The water looks beautiful. I love the little details added as well. If you jump in the water, once you get out your clothes will be darker for a while untill the water drips off. The wiimote works better than I expected with the game as well.

Put it this way, if you loved Zelda OoT, you will LOOOOVE this game. It is THE BEST Zelda created so far, in my opinion.
Raptor
Glad to hear it. Did you get the Wii version?

*Need to wait 24 more days...*
ShaunZero
I didn't know there was a GC version O_o

I don't even have a Gamecube anymore, lol. And I don't need one now that I have my Wii. -hugs his Wii- <-- That sounds bad.
BurnSide
Of course he did, he said the wiimote works well. wink2.gif
Good review, glad you're enjoying it bud. How far are you so far?
ShaunZero
I just finished the Mines where you fight that huge guy with the chains on his legs and feet. I forgot his name. I'm not far into the game, but I'm loving every second of it, and I doubt that'll change. These dungeons for one keep me so interested. I'm always thinking "Ok, what kind of tricks do I need to pull to get farther now?", lol. I've always loved that about Zelda. The dungeons are awesome and I love the puzzles.
BurnSide
haha, i just called that boss the BALROG. Took me a while to figure it out actually, but i forgot about the stupid Metal Boots. original.gif Awesome though, you're on your way to the Zoras.

My ONLY gripe with the game is it's just too similar to Ocarina, and Windwaker to an extent. Same dungeons that are just updated, same characters and enemies, that sort of thing. It's an incredible game, and i'm personally completely satisfied even if it was just an exact remake of Ocarina. But i did hype myself up a little to much for a completely new Zelda adventure, when i should have hyped for a sequel i guess.
Raptor
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I didn't know there was a GC version O_o


lol, I guess not many people do. I wonder if there are any differences between the versions, even though there aren't really supposed to be any?

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Of course he did, he said the wiimote works well.


I knew that, just testing. ph34r.gif tongue.gif


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My ONLY gripe with the game is it's just too similar to Ocarina, and Windwaker to an extent.


Nintendo seems to be doing lots of old rehashes, ironic that they're the ones with the revolutionary console. But when it comes to software they seem to only cater for their already dedicated fanbase, they don't seem to do much to bring in new customers.
BurnSide
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Dec 1 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1446577[/snapback]

lol, I guess not many people do. I wonder if there are any differences between the versions, even though there aren't really supposed to be any?


Actually, there is one incredibly massive change between the two.

As true Zelda fans no, Link is actually left handed. In ocarina, Windwaker etc Link has always held his sword in his left hand.
Now, this became an issue with the Wii version of Twilight, because the average player is Right handed, and the Wiimote is supposed to be used by the player as the actual sword. It would not work if the remote was in the players right hand and link was swinging with his left.

In the GC version, they have kept Link the same ol' Left handed. But in the Wii version, they made him right handed. Wait, there is more.
How did they do this switch of hands? Did they just render link differently for both versions? No. Did they switch link around? No.

What they did, was mirror the entire game!!! So in the Wii version, everything in the game except of course the text is actually backwards! Heading off to death mountain, for example, would take you off to the right of Hyrule in the GC version, and up into the mountains. In the Wii version, you head off to the left of Hyrule to go up into the mountains! Weird eh!

Anyway... i don't know why i added so much detail there. lol. Could have made it simpler. And now i'm rambling. This is what being bored at work online does to you.

Anyway.

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Nintendo seems to be doing lots of old rehashes, ironic that they're the ones with the revolutionary console. But when it comes to software they seem to only cater for their already dedicated fanbase, they don't seem to do much to bring in new customers.



Meh, that's Nintendos way. They'll always remake Mario and Zelda and Metroid and all their other high-fanbase games, to appease and make it better each time. They leave the new games to 3rd party developers. Fine by me.
ShaunZero
The only thing which is similar to OoT that I noticed was the graphics and style. More of a realistic look than "cartoony" like wind waker. And what do you mean same enemies? They're all new. At least so far. I love the fact that it's just like OoT. It has the right amount of changes and similarities.

Burnside, that's interesting. Where did you find all this out? Lol, anyway. That's pretty cool. Kinda wish he was still a lefty. Most call me left handed because I write with my left hand, but I'm actually .... both hands(Forgot the word). I can't swing with my left hand so it's good the Wiimote is for the right hand.
BurnSide
This is the wrong spelling, but use of both hands equally is called ambedextrous. I'm that too. original.gif
I read that on multiple sites.

Now really, ALL the enemies are the same as old games mate. Every single one of them. They just look new, because of the new graphics. The Skulltula, for example. Classic enemy of Windwaker/OOT. The killer plants, they even drop the same items. The lizards with the swords, they're in there. The moblins from Windwaker, basic enemies in this one. Bats, rats, they're there of course. Including ice/fire combinations. You have the darknuts with the armour, you have the screaming/moaning zombies, except now they hit you with a club after stunning you. There's the skeletons that take a bomb or several incarnations to kill, you've got the skeleton warriors from OOT, although you haven't seen them yet either. Even all the bosses are relatively similar to past bosses, like the large spider-enemy from the first dungeon in OOT, Golum or whatever it's called. Theres the Poes, even the 4 Poes in one of the Dungeons that steal the blue flames you need to get back, just like in the Forest Temple of OOT. The puzzles are all very similar, like controling statues ala Windwaker, or hookshoting a particular piece of the boss to hit it in the water temple.

The side-stories are identical. For example, the Zoras domain is under peril, all the zoras have been frozen and the lake has been drained, and you have to free the Zoras and refil the lake. All the dungeons are the same. Forest Dungeon, Lava/Mines Dungeon on death mountain. Water Dungeon at the bottom of Lake Hylia. I could go on. It's all almost identical to OOT, in the sense that the Resident Evil remake is identical to the original game, except its a remake, so its graphics are done-up and there are extra features added.

All that's really NEW, is Midna and the main story about the Twilight. Plus a few extra items, like spinning top and a few others.

Oh and urr, the whole Wolf thing. wink2.gif

You watch, i'm calling it now. I'll need light arrows for the last boss, and it'll be Gannon, at Hyrule Castle.
ShaunZero
Lol, well. I guess you're right then. I just didn't realize because it's been forever since I've played OoT and I've never really played Wind Waker much.

Man.. I just realized something. If this is just GC graphics, then the Wii's graphics capabilities must be way better than I expected. Is there any truth to the rumor that the Wii's graphics are that of the old Xbox?


EDIT: I don't know if this is caused by the mirror or not, but I noticed that Link and that Woman with large breasts(XD!!! Don't know her name) shake hands with their left hands. I thought it was kinda funny, because I think it IS because of the mirroring.
BurnSide
Yup, that's the mirroring alright. Good notice. original.gif
Yeah, this is GC graphics, it's not really anything incredibly special in that regard, although it does look stunning. I really have no idea how good the Wii graphics can/will get, i haven't heard great things, since Nintendo is focusing on gameplay rather than graphics. But put it this way, Resident Evil Wii is going to look much better than Resident Evil 4 did on the GC. So obviously there are some improvements. Personally, i always considered the GC to have graphics on par with the Xbox.
Raptor
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 3 2006, 08:19 AM) [snapback]1448050[/snapback]

Personally, i always considered the GC to have graphics on par with the Xbox.



It's graphics were just as good, but the processor let it down. There were lots of games that looked pretty awesome, but there'd be hell loads of lag, and the framerate would be terrible.

There's one thing I never really understood with the Wii, so if you're playing Zelda with the wiimote, when you swing your arm will Link mimic the arm movement precisely, or will it just be a trigger for him to do a usual horizontal swing?
ShaunZero
Put it this way, Zelda looks perfectly fine to me. So any other game with similar or better graphics will look amazing.

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There's one thing I never really understood with the Wii, so if you're playing Zelda with the wiimote, when you swing your arm will Link mimic the arm movement precisely, or will it just be a trigger for him to do a usual horizontal swing?


It's more like a trigger for his basic combo. Although some techniques require certain movements. For the shield attack, you have to hold the Z button down and push the Nunchuck attachment forward. For a spin attack, you have to lightly shake the Nunchuck.
BurnSide
Completed. All heart pieces, all Poes, all Insects, everything done.

Much easier than previous games. Better puzzle challenges.
Well, thats done with. What's next. lol




No second quest unfortunately. sad.gif Not much replay value.
ShaunZero
Did you use any guides or you've found all of the bugs and stuff by yourself? How long have you been playing? O_o


I just finished the dungeon in the desert and got the spinning top. How far am I into the game?
BurnSide
No guide. 49 hours total. Found it very easy to get everything to be honest. Especially the heart pieces.


Desert is relatively... halfway through the game. The Spinner is sweet, but highly underused unfortunately.
Next, you're going to collect the pieces of mirror. You have 3 dungeons for mirror pieces to find, then two more dungeons after that.
ShaunZero
Well, I'm pretty sure I have all of the heart pieces so far.. If not, I'll dig around more. I only have one bug though.

Did you also get all of the Secret Techniques?
BurnSide
Yes, they're extremely easy to find as the story takes you right next to them at every instance.
Hollywood Hughes
I can't wait for this GAME!!!
Cadetak
I haven't played twilight Princess yet but is the wolf thing actually new...i remeber in a previous zelda where you turned into a bunny(i think) when you traveled to the dark hyrule.

Also ive read that the Wii is more powerfull the the original XBox...not onpar. I also read that the Wii uses upgraded versions of the GCs proccessor and graphics chip.
JeremyGTS
yeah wolf is a new deal... i dont recall any other zelda game where you turn into an animal other than Link to Past where you were the helpless bunny
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