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miracle
QUOTE(Imaginary Friend @ Apr 15 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1148544[/snapback]

I understood the question. I was just making a funny. tongue.gif

And to seriously address the query. No. Then it wouldn't be Satan .




if he had the determination i tink he can do it.................also he an angel too sure he had great willpower to do it....
Dennison
Satanism and Luciferism is the same thing, worshipping a false idol in the Devil.
Imaginary Friend
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967


1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.


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Satanism and Luciferism is the same thing, worshipping a false idol in the Devil.


Dare to think outside the xtian myth. (If you dare! devil.gif Muahahahahaha! devil.gif )

Who Is Satan?!
Dennison
Ok so you're saying that Satanism is the worship of clarity and overcoming self deceit. Ok, so basically the Church uses the word Satan/Lucifer/Devil as a scare tactic?
Dennison
Satanists are not passive atheists, but explicit atheists. Theologically, we are certainly evil, as the very label we give ourselves portrays that we oppose the concept of God. Our very existence denies God power and credibility.
Satanism is the unreligion, whose adherents are sided squarely with the opposition to concepts of gods. There is a Jewish proverb, "If God lived on Earth, people would break his windows".

That would be an excerpt from the article you posted. It still teaches evil, and that is one thing that I go against.

Infrazael
QUOTE(Dennison @ Apr 20 2006, 08:29 AM) [snapback]1156305[/snapback]

Satanism and Luciferism is the same thing, worshipping a false idol in the Devil.


Classical Satanism (LeVay-oriented) is pretty freaking different from modern Luciferianism.

You make a rather untruthful statement.
Dennison
Classical Satanism (LeVay-oriented) is pretty freaking different from modern Luciferianism.

You make a rather untruthful statement. - It wasn't untruthful to myself when I said it. I didn't do enough research, but now I have.



Devil worship
The term "Devil worship" has a wide variety of associated meanings, but in its most objective sense, it simply refers to a religious belief in and worship of a Devil or devils. Devil worship can also be referred to as Diabolatry (from the Greek "diabolos" - devil - and "latreia" - worship), or as theistic Satanism. It is a controversial term, since "Satanist" carries a completely different meaning to those actually familiar or following with its practices and principles, who consider themselves maligned through ignorance. The term "Devil worshiper" has been used instead by LaVeyan Satanists as a term for those criminals who commit crimes citing Satan or Satanism as part of their justification.

However, despite this, there is widespread assumption that Devil Worshipers and Satanists and criminals conducting abhorrent acts under the name of either of these terms, are the same. reasons why this is so include: (1) For many people (even Satanists), the terms "Devil worshiper" and "Satanist" are synonymous; (2) The media continues to use the term "Satanist" instead of "Devil worshiper" for criminals who commit crimes in the name of Satan (most likely because "Satanist" is shorter and fits more easily in a headline), (3) Many criminals who commit crimes in the name of Satan call themselves "Satanists," not "Devil worshipers," and (4) Referring to Satanism and Devil worship as "completely separate concepts" is often interpreted by non-Satanists as semantic gerrymandering and "hair-splitting" at best, or outright lying and deception at worst.

Other common arguments includes that throughout history, there have been far more many crimes committed in the name of Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Allah than there have been in the name of Satan; yet people do not typically use the term "Christ worship" to be synonymous for criminal activity. Therefore, it makes even less sense to use the term "Devil worship" as a label for criminals, and the idea of claiming that someone is a criminal simply because they worship a particular deity or principle is difficult to accept.

Part of the reason why many Satanists demonize the term "Devil worshiper" is because of the LaVeyan teaching that worshiping a deity is a sign of intellectual weakness. It is also commonly claimed that anyone who worships the Devil is necessarily constrained by Christian theology and dogma, whereas Satanism is "freed" from such. In fact most forms of contemporary Devil worship tend to divorce themselves from strict Christian theology in any event. The Joy of Satan is a good example of Devil worshipers who identify their idea of Satan with Sumerian mythology rather than the Bible, and the Church of Azazel practices a polytheistic form of Devil worship that combines elements of Deism and the African-based Diaspora religions (e.g., Vodou, Santeria, Umbanda) and emphasizes the importance of philosophy and intellectualism to its adherents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism - source

Yeah, I get the point, Satanism is not devil worship, its a few bad eggs that claim they did what they did because of the devil. tongue.gif Now that I understand, the flaming can end.

And yeah, i Know, i just researched all the different types of Satanism, so yeah i Know, i was flying on the seat of my pants. That was a statement from my own heart, It wasn't some copywritten pile of crap from a magazine or a book. tongue.gif
_Emma_
Aren't there two different Luciferisms?
dier-erdna
satanisem is realy an old misunderstod religon becaus in the midelages the aitiest was belivd to be controlled by satan because they did not believe in god so they become satanist in the eyes of the church and what we now as satanism is a relativly new thing.
Apl_Py
First off, a note that Satanists do NOT sacrafice animals, that isn't Satanism, that's a crazy ****er who THINKS it's Satanism.

In reply to your question, there are a few different types of Satanism. The 2 kinds I know of are Spiritual Satanism and LaVeyan Satanism. In Spiritual Satanism (which is what I believe in so I know more about this than the others), the Satanists believe in Satan as a real being and that he along with the other Gods (including the Christian God) created humans, but allot of the other Gods (Jehova/Angels) wanted us to be destroyed after we serve our purpose. Spiritual Satanism includes stuff like Astral Projection, summoning Demons, and worship of Satan.

LaVeyan Satanism, created by Anton LaVey, is what all the people of the CoS (Church of Satan) believe in. They believe that Satan is not a real being, but instead Satan is a symbol of all that is viewed as "sins" or otherwise selfish by other people, such as self-worship.

I also should add what I call "Idiotic Satanism", which is basicly a fake Satanism which fits the general stereotype of Satanism. That is people who sacrafice animals, people, etc. and call it Satanism, usually as an excuse for their actions. If you see someone tied up to an inverted Pentagram with scars all over them, that is NOT Satanism. It is either Idiotic Satanism, or someone doing very extreme bondage...

For more information (also more accurate than me, since I have only been in Satanism for a few months), visit the following websites :
For Spiritual Satanism, www.joyofsatan.org and www.theisticsatanism.com
For LaVeyan Satanism, www.churchofsatan.com

Hope I helped wink2.gif
norwood1026
QUOTE (Deadly Nightshade @ Oct 12 2004, 05:25 PM) *
All I know of satanism is that it started by Anton Lavey who wrote the satanic witch bible. I have read much of Aliester Crowleys works as well which to me indicates the same thing....Yes some Satanists do sacrifice animals as do some witches offer sacrifies too.
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Being that Witches hold nature in the highest regard I'd like to see proof of this, Satanist for the most part are athiest.
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