Q-La
Jul 20 2004, 02:22 PM
From many alleged alien abductions, abductees seem to have gone through some examination. And some mentioned that there are things in the human gene that they want to get to strengthen theirs. What is so special about our race that they are so interested in? What physical attributes?
Rakshasas
Jul 20 2004, 03:10 PM
I`m wondering if its physical power maybe??? You never hear of them giving intelligence tests....
Chiana
Jul 20 2004, 03:41 PM
Well, I am abductee and as far as I know, their race are dieing so they need us to reproduce with some of their dna. We are probably the closest humanoides to them from al the worlds they must have seen.
Q-La
Jul 20 2004, 11:45 PM
But if they are just reproducing identical genes, they can probably do it artificially. Will they actuall be producing human somewhere remote and bring them back as middleman? I believe there is a 'blonde' race alien, wonder if that's got anything to do with us.
ECC
Jul 20 2004, 11:45 PM
so they can go all the way through space with all this technology and advanced stuff, but they can't save their own kind? =/. also aren't there several different forms of aliens they can get stuff of of?
dunderhead
Jul 21 2004, 04:59 PM
NAH! Its more than physical strengh,come on think about it! They pick all sorts of human beings not just atheletes,dont they? I think it's more like a hypnosis thing! Like some of us are easier targets than others...A bit like when you go to see a hypnotist on stage,only a certain percentage of the audience are receptable to his persuation,are'nt they? I would think the Hybrid theory is most likely. Maybe there's a new planet out there not compatible for the likes of the aliens...Maybe it's to do with atmoshere...? It would make sense why the alien Greys seem to be more interested in Twins! They have a telepathic link,just like the grey's do.......Well its only a theory....
Ps...not thinking to straight today....just had a tooth pulled out...feel groggy!
earthygirl04
Jul 22 2004, 08:25 PM
I just wonder if the Aliens aren't just curious as to how we humans have lasted so long on Earth, since we are stupid enough to ruin our own planet with water pollution, destroying the ozone, deseases, destroying the rainforest, littering, and killing our own species.
Lost_In_Thought
Jul 22 2004, 08:39 PM
I have many ideas on what they want: One being that theres interested in our physical characteristics, or they wish to do experiments that are too dangerous to do on there species. What ever the reason is I don't realy want to know.
~Lost~
Wings of Selkhet
Jul 25 2004, 04:12 PM
I'm not saying I believe in all the abduction stories I've heard, but if aliens were to visit earth, I think it'd be for the same reason we'd visit another planet - curiosity. I don't think they're necessarily malevolent. You can't generalize all of them - we don't know how many other worlds out there have life. Some may be evil and out to hurt us, but I bet most are just curious.
MK ULTRA
Jul 25 2004, 04:45 PM
We are there pets,they are checking up on us.
They jumpstarted the "missing link" by using experiments in DNA.We are the result and once in a while they take notes.
FrauMaiden
Jul 26 2004, 01:11 AM
I too have heard that their race is dying, that their females cannot carry their offspring full term and that they're genetically challenged. Perhaps they are looking into our gene pool(s) to add integrity to their antibody structures?
To create a hybrid race in order for them to remain existant?
For what it's worth...
Most Respectfully,
FrauMaiden
Pyrothius
Jul 26 2004, 04:54 AM
Cloning would not be the ideal way to save any species, if that species is dying due to faulty genetics. While I have never been able to determine exactly why they keep coming, and they've never given me any indication of their reasons, I can't rule out genetic experimentation to save their own race. Also, they DO occasionally give a sort of "mental abilities" test...I can't remember it very well, but they once had me trying to make associations between objects. They were frustrated when I didn't make the associations fast enough.
Q-La
Jul 26 2004, 07:16 AM
Pyrothius if you know they are frustrated it may well mean they are expecting something from you which imply they did something earlier. If they keep coming can you ask them questions? Or have you already?
hunterkiller2001
Jul 26 2004, 07:20 AM
Perhalps there is a problem in thier genetics.. but maybe it's ours.. Maybe humans will die out from a problem we don't know about..
Maybe both races are dying, and thier trying to save both with one shot.
maybe i don't know what the hell I'm talking about..
Q-La
Jul 26 2004, 03:08 PM
Hey just came up with an idea. What if they are waiting for us to disappear (e.g. destroy ourselves, massive natural catastrophe, etc.) and are documenting our history because they know we are going from their experience/knowledge? And they are going to inherit earth without much problem?
dunderhead
Jul 26 2004, 03:43 PM
| QUOTE (hunterkiller2001 @ Jul 26 2004, 08:20 AM) |
Perhalps there is a problem in thier genetics.. but maybe it's ours.. Maybe humans will die out from a problem we don't know about..
Maybe both races are dying, and thier trying to save both with one shot.
maybe i don't know what the hell I'm talking about..
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Cheers Hunter,thats made me laugh and cheered me up...!
the master theologian
Jul 26 2004, 05:07 PM
The aliens are gonna kill us all!
Babs
Jul 26 2004, 05:10 PM
I read that it was enzymes and hormones they need from us, to inject them through their skin. I think there was a thread named, "I shouldn't post this"....something like that on here, that I read this.
Fluffybunny
Jul 26 2004, 06:05 PM
| QUOTE (Q-La @ Jul 20 2004, 07:22 AM) |
| What physical attributes? |
Two words folks:
Chest Hair.
Alien chicks dig chest hair. It's a fact that the little greys can't get around...
Have you seen the greys lately? They are about four foot nuthin' and about 80 pounds with a pocket full of space quarters. They all look exactly the same too. Not exactly alien chick magnets.
It's tough to pick up alien chicks when you can't tell each other apart so they have been combing the galaxy looking for genetic material to make themselves look more manly.
They could have gone for extra tentacles, bigger heads, or a gooey outer coating but they have determined by studying the airwaves emanating from our planet that chest hair seems to offer the best chance at getting women...
It seems that the little guys didn't realize that all of the signals that they were receiving from earth were cheesy pornos from the 70's being played on VCRs all over the planet. The mistakenly assumed that what they we watching was a study of human mating rituals.
All over the galaxy space infomercials popped up offering nutritional supplements to add chest hair to lonely greys. Now enterprising companies have to go around the planet sampling DNA to find the hairiest chromosome available.
FrauMaiden
Jul 26 2004, 06:38 PM
Oh! I cannot agree with Q-LA enough! Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Ahem! Sorry!
Now, what Q-LA interjected is confirmation of what some (alleged) abductees have also claimed, and that was that they were transported to another "planet", or "realm"- a "place" where the alien beings were governed by blonde haired, blue eyed men.
While that sounds like something incorporated in some forgotten episode of "Lost In Space", I emplore everyone to at least give creedence to this possibility:
The "blonde", or the "white" race of peoples are the only individuals who are "blonde", or "white" naturally. All other races have darker pigments. Who's to say that this "blonde", or "white" race didn't begin elsewhere, and then were transported here? Those of European origin(s) and decent(s) are basically "white" and geography separates their residences and languages. Alot of the culture is similar, if not identical, i.e., holidays, solstices, burial traditions, religious convictions and other morals and values issues combined. There isn't much diversity between the "blonde", or the "white" race peoples.
I see many different sanctions (and this is a word being used for the lack of a better one at hand) of the Oriental, Hispanic and the Middle Eastern races and there is quite diverse differences in culture(s), holidays, burial traditions, religious convictions and even political agendas. All in all though? The "blonde", or the "white" race is the only race within our known universe to have the pallid pigment. Not so with the others.
For what this is worth!
Most Respectfully,
FrauMaiden
Miang
Jul 26 2004, 07:43 PM
If they needed enzymes or other proteins, with their advanced tech they would have been able to produce them easily. We can already make any protein we want in labs all over the world. There is really no apparent reason why they are here; at least not one which we can understand.
dunderhead
Jul 26 2004, 08:04 PM
| QUOTE (FrauMaiden @ Jul 26 2004, 07:38 PM) |
Now, what Q-LA interjected is confirmation of what some (alleged) abductees have also claimed, and that was that they were transported to another "planet", or "realm"- a "place" where the alien beings were governed by blonde haired, blue eyed men.
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Who also have a cat like appearance with unusual pointed chins! Where as the european Nordic type male has a very square jaw (sharp edged). From what I've read they look more oriental in appearance!
Sorry I maybe wrong here! Come to think of it Hitler tried to turn the whole world into a Blue eye'd Blonde race of people! Maybe Hitler was secretly an alien? If it was'nt for Nazi Germany's introduction of the V1 and V2 bombs there would never have been a U.S and Russian space program!.......THOUGHT PROCESS..!! Thank u Mine Frau,this could be a great new thread in the making......"WAS HITLER AN ALIEN!"
Pyrothius
Jul 27 2004, 02:26 AM
Q-La, I cannot speak much of the time that they take me, but I can "will" messages to them that I know they recieve, because of their reactions. So far, they have been very unresponsive to my questions, besides the "everything is all right" and "we will not hurt you" that I get every single time. (That's the Greys; the Blues, as I call them, didn't even tell me that much when they took me last week.)
Q-La
Jul 27 2004, 04:08 PM
FluffybunnyThey must have pull out some of yours for transplant. Hope it didn't hurt too much

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FrauMaidenI think this is all very interesting. Originality of the races and chomosome similarity must also be taken into account. Or was white people the first race who 'lend' genetic materials to the local races? Let's be careful of the nazist landmines though
PyrothiusKeep up updated -this is getting too interesting and hope you're safe!
cor_raven
Jul 28 2004, 08:17 PM
i think that threre just messing with us. like in the hitchhikers guide to the universe. there just getting a good laugh. and i know your not going to takes this seriously but they might just come to earth for pot and other drugs. whats to say they don't like frying their brains too.
dunderhead
Jul 28 2004, 08:45 PM
| QUOTE (cor_raven @ Jul 28 2004, 09:17 PM) |
but they might just come to earth for pot and other drugs. whats to say they don't like frying their brains too. |
OR alternatively they might read ur posts Cor,that would totally mince thier big egg heads...!

Groovy...
Opinicus
Jul 29 2004, 02:20 AM
What are the odds that an alien race of beings:
A.) Has bipedal locomotion (just like us)
B.) ...and has binocular vision (just like us)
C.) ...and has opposable thumbs (just like us)
D.) ... and are social creatures (just like us)
E.) ... and have equal or superior intellect (more or less like us)
throw into this equation the fact that the civilization(s) that they represent are existing at the same time as ours in the vastness of the universe AND they have managed inter-stellar flight.
.... I am no statistician but I would bet that I would need one hell of a computer to calculate them.
Pyrothius
Jul 29 2004, 04:06 AM
Yeah, the odds are against it...then again, the odds are pretty much against US existing too. If it can happen once, it can happen twice, or three times, or any number of times.
Besides which, they may not be existing on the same plane or actually at the same time as us...
Asterix
Jul 29 2004, 08:55 AM
If aliens are so freakingly advanced, as to travel all the way to Earth and abduct ppl, I guess they have the ability to clone humans and process DNA in general. Wouldn't just one human abductee (or one male and one female) be enough for them to have plenty of human DNA for their sinister, dark, ominous

purposes? (Like e.g. create an Ice-Hockey player who doesn't exchange punches during the game? )
Pyrothius
Jul 29 2004, 12:38 PM
Think about it, Asterix; what happens when the same genes are bred over and over and over and over again? Here's a clue: "Deliverance". There would have to be a large variety or the same faulty gene would kill everyone. Also, our own cloning experiments haven't been nearly as successful as people would like to think. Why would we assume that they have perfected cloning? It IS possible that cloning cannot be perfected, and therefore to assume that another race of alien life should be able to clone us at will is preposterous.
Now, I don't know exactly why they come. I don't know what the hell they want. All I know is that, from what I've seen, if they wanted us dead, we'd be dead already.
Opinicus
Jul 29 2004, 01:56 PM
It is interesting how mundane the "aliens" appear as described by the people who have encountered them. There is a certain amount of deviation to the reports but as a whole its pretty standard i.e. two eyes, one mouth, one head, two arms, two legs…etc.
Why not four heads???
Why not eleven eyes???
Why not one big arm coming out of their back???
Why not [you fill in the blank]?????
If one considers the variety of shapes and sizes of life on THIS planet… why would a being from another planet, with a different environment, gravity and evolutionary history as Earth, appear so similar to the beings on Earth??????
Q-La
Jul 29 2004, 03:12 PM
Opinicus, may be its our similarities to them among other species that draw their attention to earth? Or is earth their origin and they are travelling through spacetime?
Anyway, got another rather crazy idea again:
Judging that they are technologically superior to us and we are not interestng physically and biologically, can they be interested in our intangible aspects of the human being/experience? Like if there is no religion or at least the concept of God in the rest of the universe, and that we humans (at least a large portion of our members) claim to be God's creation, will they be very anxious to see which part of our gene that make us sons and daughters of God in our belief? What physical part of the brain can be accountible for the soul? We have shame and moral, we commit crime/'sin', do they? We have shame and wear clothes, and they do not, so it seems, and these relate to values. Do they have values or is everything absolute and grey

(no black and white)? Do they love? Are they trying to be 'human'? Are they trying to experience what we experience? Are they worry that they have no souls? Would they want to have souls? (The last part of the movie A.I. was inspiring in this aspect) What do they think of our divine/ghost experience? Will earth become the new Jerusalem? Of course there are chances that other e.t. cultures have experienced spirituality and invalidate it through eons, but may be we are just unique in some ways to attract the various kinds.
earthygirl04
Jul 29 2004, 07:48 PM
I know, I know!!!
The Aliens come here and check us out because they all look the same,(you know, you can't tell if they're male or female) but we humans have parts that makes us male and females!
'Cause were special!!!
the master theologian
Jul 29 2004, 09:07 PM
Yeah.... I love being human! Don't You? (:
But seriously folks, I think that when you are
reffering to "they" you have to be sure who you're
talking about. The Greys are evil. They have no
respect for human life. They will poke and prod at
you.. They don't care if it hurts. The Blonds are rare.
The Blonds are goood! If you've evere seen a Blond, its
probably because you're a christian or because you're
in God's will somehow. If you've seen a Grey with your
eyes in real life, then you must think of a crimson cross
to make them stop!
Fluffybunny
Jul 29 2004, 09:11 PM
| QUOTE (Norman @ Jul 29 2004, 02:07 PM) |
If you've seen a Grey with your eyes in real life, then you must think of a crimson cross to make them stop! |
Norman, where do you get this information from?
the master theologian
Jul 29 2004, 09:19 PM
Fluffybunny is worried because he knows that I know.
THATS IT! PEOPLE! PEOPLE! Fluffy Bunny is working with
the UFO conver-up with the government!
Fluffybunny, please don't summon your black choppers
here! I know the truth, but I can't keep it in man!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
THE PRPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED!!!! Jhon was right!
Fluffybunny
Jul 29 2004, 09:34 PM
| QUOTE (Norman @ Jul 29 2004, 02:19 PM) |
THATS IT! PEOPLE! PEOPLE! Fluffy Bunny is working with the UFO conver-up with the government! |
Yep Norman, you nailed it on the head this time.
I shall fire up the black helicopter as soon as the boys are done giving it a nice wax job. You are safe until they get a second coat and wash the windows.
I will make sure to wear my black suit, and black sunglasses. I will also make sure the boys show up to your home in their black sedan with black tinted windows.
All whilst wearing black underwear. Under their black suits that is.
the master theologian
Jul 29 2004, 09:36 PM
You won't kill an unconscious maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-
Magikman
Jul 29 2004, 09:46 PM
Norman,
Enough with the nonsensical gibberish, either conduct yourself rationally and reply to these topics seriously or find another outlet for your foolishness.
Magikman
Pyrothius
Jul 29 2004, 11:05 PM
Thank You.
Opinicus
Jul 30 2004, 01:34 AM
Grays, Blonds, Robotics, Reptiles, Giants and those little hairy beings the folks from South America are always seeing, are all bipedal with binocular vision and opposable thumbs. They have two eyes (of varying size) and one head. They have two ears or ear holes with two arms and two legs. etc.
Being visited by "aliens" from another planet is fantastic enough. Statistically speaking I would buy that. The fact that they obviously share a similar evolutionary history as the human race is simply unbelievable.
I would love to read just ONE abduction story where the "alien" is described as looking very much like an animated glob of play-doh instead of a Gray… or a Blond…or whatever. (This would make a great deal more sense to me.)
For example:
Even if we took a group of human beings and were somehow able to get them to Mars to begin a colony… at adulthood their progeny would be INCAPABLE of bipedal locomotion if they returned to this planet. That is because our evolution is closely tied to the environment and gravity of this planet. If a human being develops in a different gravitational environment, higher or lower, they not only would look physically different then the ones on the Earth… they would not be able to walk if they got here.
anything is possible
Jul 30 2004, 04:44 PM
well have you ever thought of this, maybe they want us in general?
Opinicus
Jul 30 2004, 09:24 PM
To what end???
If one is to believe the theory… an "alien" race or races has traveled scores of light years to pester and hide from another race of beings who are their intellectual and technological inferiors.
…And the apparent reasons for this galactic odyssey???
To obtain various cow parts???
To do belly button probes on hapless people in their P.J.'s???
To play practical jokes with nuclear arsenals???
(Even "alien" races have to deal with niggling little details of life like… logic, logistics, and purpose. They are subject to the same natural laws as the rest of creation.)
One can not look at this entire theory with out the danger of being overwhelmed by its absurdity.
Pyrothius
Jul 31 2004, 09:44 PM
If one keeps an open mind and thinks things through, one realizes that there is no absurdity at all.
The best reason I can think of for the visits is science. They are as far removed, evolution wise, as we are from apes. If you want to study an ape in its nature habitat, you don't let it know you are there. Same thing with the aliens: they would prefer their presence kept secret, but, as with any mortal life, they make mistakes...
cor_raven
Jul 31 2004, 10:58 PM
| QUOTE (Pyrothius @ Jul 31 2004, 10:44 PM) |
| they would prefer their presence kept secret, |
considering how many forums and reports and quacks and movies that concerns alien life they are doing a bangup job
Opinicus
Jul 31 2004, 11:17 PM
My Dear Pyrothius:
What do we FACTUALLY know about "them"? One could state just as easily that "they" are here to study the geology of this planet or even perhaps the atmosphere. Do we know FACTUALLY that "alien" science includes anthropology, geology and natural science? What motivates an "alien" race of beings in an "alien" culture? It is not logical to assume that an "alien" race would be or could be motvated by the same things as human beings.
Theories are fine. There is obviously a phenomenon that requires study. The first order of science, as we all know, is a theory or hypothesis. The second order is to collect facts to support that theory or hypothesis. The problem that I have with this particular phenomenon is that theories and assumptions are offered without a shred of proof as factual.
I am not a believer. I am not a non-believer. I just think that this phenomenon should be treated as any other phenomenon being investigated by science. Theories are fine but the TRUTH of the matter is that there is not enough real evidence to support them.
P.S.
Please remember my friend… having an open mind cuts BOTH ways.
StratMan172
Aug 1 2004, 02:02 AM
I think they are like scientists but advanced. I believe that they just want more information and are interested in us like we're interested in them.
the master theologian
Aug 1 2004, 02:43 AM
| QUOTE |
Theories are fine. There is obviously a phenomenon that requires study. The first order of science, as we all know, is a theory or hypothesis. The second order is to collect facts to support that theory or hypothesis... ...Theories are fine but the TRUTH of the matter is that there is not enough real evidence to support them. |
There is more evidence about aliens and UFOs than we can get our hands
on. You said yourself, that this requires study. Then I suggest
you study for yourself. Stop pretending like you know what you're talking about!
The truth is we are all hypothesizing and making up theories or supporting
other theories that have been made. You cannot disproove aliens. But perhaps
you cannot proove them either. Its kind of like God. You need faith to believe it.
I encourage you to study this, and proove it both ways.
I can compare all of us to toddlers who have never spoken a word yet, but
they are already forming a sentence in their brain. When the time comes,
we all say what we think, and they all contradict each other. Why all this fuss?
Opinicus
Aug 1 2004, 03:29 AM
Ok StratMan172… I'll play along:
Let's just say for the sake of argument that there are "aliens" from other planets who have overcome all the statistical improbabilities of looking and acting similar to the human race. Let's also say that this same of "aliens" have ALSO overcome all the logistical and physical problems associated with interstellar travel because they are technologically more advanced then we are. Let's also say that they have come to our planet to study the human race because it is of some value to them.
#1 problem: Since 1906 this planet has been emitting radio waves out into space. Since 1929 this planet has been emitting television into the cosmos. So why come here? Everything that anyone needs to know about the human race has been pumped out into space for almost 100 years. If they are as advanced as they are supposed to be it would not be too difficult for a superior race to tune in and learn all they would need to know.
#2 problem: If their mission is to simply observe us covertly … they need to re-think their mission statement. According to the UFO lore they are routinely seen, photographed and filmed. They take people in their sleep who can remember the experience. They monkey around with nuclear weapons as well as nuclear sights. They attack our poor cows. That's not covert action. That's not idle curiosity either.
#3 problem: Even though they are advanced enough to conquer deep space… they can't help but keep crashing here. (Roswell, Kecksburg, Birmingham, Tunguska, to name a few.) If one takes into account just how many times these things have screwed up and crashed… its getting tough to make that "superior to us" argument.
With current human technology it is not REALLY that difficult to observe a culture in absentia for scientific purposes. So why is it exactly that these technologically "superior" creatures are having so much trouble with it? The fact that we are having this discussion would be but small proof of their failure and that just doesn't make any sense.
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