frogfish
Oct 15 2007, 08:41 PM
Thanks Finsup! Devin Hester almost gave me a heart attack there!
Can the Patriots be stopped? Their offense if unstoppable, the best I've seen since the 1998 Vikes! Brady is on pace to break Manning's 49 TD record...
Super Pancake
Oct 16 2007, 12:17 PM
Go Giants
~Onyx~
Oct 16 2007, 05:55 PM
QUOTE(frogfish @ Oct 15 2007, 04:41 PM)

Can the Patriots be stopped? Their offense if unstoppable, the best I've seen since the 1998 Vikes! Brady is on pace to break Manning's 49 TD record...
Yeah, I sure do feel sorry for the unfortunate dip-sh*ts that have to play them next.......*looks at the schedule*...........AWWW, SUN-UV-A-BIT*H!!!!!
Finsup22
Oct 16 2007, 05:57 PM
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Oct 16 2007, 12:55 PM)

Yeah, I sure do feel sorry for the unfortunate dip-sh*ts that have to play them next.......*looks at the schedule*...........AWWW, SUN-UV-A-BIT*H!!!!!

LMFAO!
About freakn time you came out to play!...
frogfish
Oct 16 2007, 10:35 PM
LOL Onyx!
Super Pancake
Oct 21 2007, 03:02 PM
But Onyx you should be kinda optimistic the Dolphins have broken winning streaks of the pats like 2 times before, but yeah there not winning today.
TEN @ HOU The curse most be broken Vince come back
TB @ DET 10 wins on hold for now
ATL @ NO Loser bowl 2007
BAL @ BUF
SF @ NYG
ARI @ WAS
NE @ MIA NO won a game so the battle 0-16 is between the Dolphins and the Rams go Dolphins
KC @ OAK I though lolpepper got back to form but I don't think so anymore
NYJ @ CIN The Benglols are done.
MIN @ DAL For the sake of picks I would go for Dallas but come on Minny the Giants need your help!
CHI @ PHI another division rival goes down today
STL @ SEA I don't like the Sea$h!+s but whatever the rams aint any good.
PIT @ DEN
Monday night
IND @ JAC going for the upset the Jags had success against Indy before.
lols Titans 8 field goals for a win.
Finsup22
Oct 22 2007, 01:43 AM
QUOTE
lols Titans 8 field goals for a win.
Who ever had the Titan's Kicker in thier FFL is having a happy day!
I'm telling you...MAN!!!! The injuris this year are brutal. I dont know what thats about.
I watched the Miami game, they had it on CBS in my area for the noon game. I love Miami, I was squirming on my couch today. My god thier injuries are almost paranormal. Lemon looked pretty good.
Dierdorf was pissing me off, I dont know why but I get mad at annoucers. I have anger problems, I make me sad
The Bears game was U.G.L.Y. (you aint got no alibi) but WTF a wins a win.
Killer Bee
Oct 22 2007, 10:46 AM
QUOTE (Super Pancake @ Oct 21 2007, 03:02 PM)

Monday night
IND @ JAC going for the upset the Jags had success against Indy before.
This game is the best chance for Indy to have a loss before taking on New England in early November. The Jaguars are tough, and they always give Manning and the Colts hell. This is really the only game this week in the NFL that caught my eye. Although, watching the Steelers and Ravens getting upset yesterday brought a HUGE smile to my face. Only if Minnesota could have knocked off Dallas, then it would have been perfect.
~Onyx~
Oct 22 2007, 03:47 PM
Well, my only consolation is that they kept it under 50, LOL. The Fins are CLEARLY rebuilding, and everything pretty-much happened the way I thought it would...except for one thing. Did anyone else notice that The Pats backup Matt Kassel(sp) was in the game...mercilessly...and threw a "pick-six" to Taylor, immediately after that Belichick came back with Brady...WHILE STILL HOLDING A 21 POINT LEAD!!!???....What the heck was he worried about? That Dan Marino was gonna come charging outta the stands in uniform w/ The Marks Brothers at his side and lead another 4th quarter comeback?

Wasn't gonna happen, and the only reason Brady came back in, IMO, was to cover...plain and simple.

(not that I'm shocked or anything, LOL)
I had three loses in my office pool, and that was STILL 2 loses too many.....SHEEEEEEEEEEEESH.
Ciraxis
Oct 23 2007, 12:48 PM
I'm just glad the bills won! I'm really liking edwards, beats the hell outta losman, the team seems to be behind him as well.
the actually played football on sunday. i'm looking forward to going to the bills/giants game, i like both teams, should be good, and cold, december in buffalo. lots o' whiskey
~Onyx~
Oct 24 2007, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (Ciraxis @ Oct 23 2007, 08:48 AM)

I'm just glad the bills won! I'm really liking edwards, beats the hell outta losman, the team seems to be behind him as well.
the actually played football on sunday. i'm looking forward to going to the bills/giants game, i like both teams, should be good, and cold, december in buffalo. lots o' whiskey
Edwards looks like a keeper, too bad that they probably won't get very good value when/if they decide to trade Losman. Quite frankly, I never thought any QB that has the word Loss in their name would amout to much.
Speaking of The Giants, now the The Fins are gonna be playing them in London on Sunday, they(The Fins) can now call themselves a national AND international laughingstock. Losing Ronnie Brown...the leagues leader in yards from scrimage...is just like a slap in the face to a franchise enduring the single worst season in it's history.
frogfish
Oct 25 2007, 09:36 PM
Stupid mistakes, like always, killed Minnesota.
Peterson runs for 230 yeards in the game before, and then gets 13 touches? WTF.
Jackson was 1-9 in the 3rd Qtr? WTF!
Put Peterson in as our playcaller AND our QB. He's better than the others at it...
hillbillysasquatch
Oct 25 2007, 10:48 PM
i am a big time viking fan but until we get a decent qb we are not going anywhere near the playoffs.
~Onyx~
Oct 26 2007, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (hillbillysasquatch @ Oct 25 2007, 06:48 PM)

i am a big time viking fan but until we get a decent qb we are not going anywhere near the playoffs.
You'll get no arguement from me on that issue, Jackson looks overmatched. Is Kelly Holcomb injured? Can't believ that he wouldn't be starting over Jackson at this point in the season, especially when opposing defense's will be looking to stack-up the line vs. Peterson(who looks like a one man wrecking crew). All the starting QB should be asked to do at this point is convert 3rd down, that's it, convert 3rd down after you've put the ball in Peterson's hands on 1st and 2nd down(direct hand-off, screen, draw, swing pass, WHATEVER), just make a play on 3rd down and don't turn the ball over, Peterson and the defense should be able to do the rest....at least for the foreseeable future.
timbeau
Oct 27 2007, 11:08 AM
Yeah, Jackson is horrible. I picked Chestor Taylor up for fantasy, so hopefully they DON'T give it to Peterson 30 times a game
Super Pancake
Oct 28 2007, 02:20 PM
My picks
Indianapolis at Carolina
Detroit at Chicago
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati
Oakland at Tennessee
Cleveland at St. Louis
NY Giants at Miami
Philadelphia at Minnesota
Buffalo at [b]NY Jets
Houston[/b] at San Diego
Jacksonville at Tampa Bay
New Orleans at San Francisco
Washington at New England
MNF
Green Bay at Denver
She-ra
Oct 28 2007, 10:48 PM
I'm puking ... I'm ashamed ... what an ugly game

*I will not speak for a week* (yea right, JK)
Super Pancake
Oct 29 2007, 01:38 AM
Yeah the Roflskins took a serious beat down worse then what Maimi got almost a shutout. Sorry Sera but I'm always glad when a division rival goes down.

Go Giants!

close, tough win in London enjoy the by week.
snuffypuffer
Oct 31 2007, 03:35 AM
Steelers won again.
timbeau
Oct 31 2007, 10:20 AM
Colts 45 Patriots 42
frogfish
Oct 31 2007, 04:14 PM
QUOTE
You'll get no arguement from me on that issue, Jackson looks overmatched. Is Kelly Holcomb injured? Can't believ that he wouldn't be starting over Jackson at this point in the season, especially when opposing defense's will be looking to stack-up the line vs. Peterson(who looks like a one man wrecking crew). All the starting QB should be asked to do at this point is convert 3rd down, that's it, convert 3rd down after you've put the ball in Peterson's hands on 1st and 2nd down(direct hand-off, screen, draw, swing pass, WHATEVER), just make a play on 3rd down and don't turn the ball over, Peterson and the defense should be able to do the rest....at least for the foreseeable future.
Tell that to Childress...
Man, I can't believe Childress is NOT handing it off to Peterson. WTF, 20 touches against the Eagles. God, give him 25-30! He's a 1st round pick for Pete's Sake!
Colts over Pats, 34-28
Killer Bee
Nov 1 2007, 05:02 AM
QUOTE (frogfish @ Oct 31 2007, 04:14 PM)

Tell that to Childress...
Man, I can't believe Childress is NOT handing it off to Peterson. WTF, 20 touches against the Eagles. God, give him 25-30! He's a 1st round pick for Pete's Sake!
Colts over Pats, 34-28
With the current state of the Vikings offense, I would be handing Adrian Peterson the ball AT LEAST 30-35 times a game. After watching what he's done the first 7 games of his career, you know that he can hurt a defense at any time he touches the ball. He looks like a combo of Walter Payton and Barry Sanders, light on his feet, hard to tackle with amazing break away speed when he gets into the secondary. He's going to be special. As far as the Pats and Colts, I agree with you. The Colts knock off New England in a very close game, with a lot of offense.....34-28 sounds like a good score.
~Onyx~
Nov 1 2007, 05:06 PM
As a betting-man, you can't go against The Pats until they lose, that's just the rule, that being said, I can't disagree that The Colts will take them at home....I call it 38-31.
Sweetpumper
Nov 1 2007, 05:24 PM
They'll ruin Peterson's career if they give him the ball 30 times a game. He's not used to an NFL schedule. Look at what over-using Cadillac has done to that poor kid.
frogfish
Nov 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Cadillac is not Peterson though. Peterson, like Bee said, reminds me of Payton and Sanders. He is much better than Cadillac. Peterson is tough enough to handle it.
~Onyx~
Nov 1 2007, 06:04 PM
Cadillac split-time with Ronnie Brown his senior year at Auburn, so he was a bit unaccustomed to the 16-week(not including playoffs, if you qualify) work-load. Peterson WAS the offense at OU for about 2 years, so he's used to getting the ball more. But I agree with SP, to a degree, you cannot expect...no matter how tough or talented...a rookie RB to be you sole means of offense in the NFL without running the risk of running them into the ground(no pun intended) or sustaining a major injury(cause the RB is trying to do what they can on dead-legs and gets blasted). Is Chester Taylor hurt?
Defensive coordinators in The NFL aren't blind, they're gonna try to take away what you do best and make you do what your not comfortable doing, you simply can't shove a play(or player) down the throats of NFL defenses...well, you can against The Dolphins...but you can develop new ways to get Peterson the ball in "space", kinda like they did with Reggie Bush in his rookie year in New Orleans, just so you can minimize the number of hits he has to absorb throughout the rest of the season.
Super Pancake
Nov 4 2007, 11:18 PM
Goodness Adrian Peterson and the Lions WOW!
Well the evil won today!
Godofcats
Nov 5 2007, 06:24 AM
hahah "cuz soccer is for wusses" it's true. i remember when i played football in high school. good days. i remember i got hit so hard while trying to tackle this huge fullback who was like 6'3 250 to my lanky 6'0 160 pounds. i swear i felt my head melt inside my helmet. this dude ran me over like BOOM and i was like i don't have a head anymore because i swear it just melted that's what it felt like. you won't find that in soccer punks.
anyway just came in to rep the bengals......they suck agian so what we're use to it here in cincinnati no big deal.
Ciraxis
Nov 5 2007, 03:52 PM
you know, i'm sick of seeing the colts and pats winning, foot gets boring to me if the same teams keep winning every year. I like it when some underdog wins the bowl.
at least the bills won again! man jp makes me nervous when he is holding the ball, i hope they start edwards next week
~Onyx~
Nov 5 2007, 04:29 PM
This past week was the only week that I could confidently say that The Fins couldn't lose......I don't think.
Ciraxis
Nov 5 2007, 04:42 PM
lets see how they do against the bills this week. two bad teams against each other
~Onyx~
Nov 5 2007, 04:49 PM
Yeah, LOL, that game is gonna be a dog. The hot-button topic down here concerning that game is whether or not John Beck(the kid they drafted in the 2nd round in this past years draft) is gonna be the starter. The concensus is that the season is a wash, why not play the kids and see what they can do so you can formulate a draft strategy for the upcoming draft(how pathetic is that, that's all we have to look forward to down here, something that's almost 8-9 months away), but Cam Cameron says won't comit to a changing of the QB's, he wants to start the QB that gives him the best chance to win, which I can understand, but at this point, IMO, you have to start looking toward the future.
At least Buffalo has a good idea of who they're QB of the future is, and a damn good young RB in Lynch, I think he's gonna be great for them.
Bear's Quest
Nov 5 2007, 05:29 PM
Congrats Pats Fans,
To me all the air in the balloon(hype) went out when Marvin Harrison wasn't going to play in the game.
I could see through out the game where If Marvin Harrison was in, they could of capitalize and maybe have tied and if not won the game.
Brady has Moss but Manning had (?)...for the deep threat.
~Onyx~
Nov 5 2007, 06:33 PM
Don't sweat the "no Marvin Harrison" thing, if I'm a Colts fan, believe it or not, I'm encouraged. They played plenty well against The Pats without Harrison, and they'll be playing this game again, on an even bigger stage, when Harrison will be playing. I think The Pats have won the battle, but the war(The AFC Championship Game) is yet to be fought, IMO.
Finsup22
Nov 5 2007, 07:03 PM
Well at least the Bears didn't loose tis week. WTF happened to S.D.? I tell you the A.Peterson (Vikings), rookie of the year!
I was interesed in the Pats Colts game. I watched some, in between cat naps, I dont know.....The Colts looked good, keept the Pats off the field. we'll see. AFC Championship game?
Who's NFC? Green Bay and Dallas?
Sweetpumper
Nov 5 2007, 07:08 PM
Leave it to my Raiders to make Ron Dayne look like a first ballot HOF'er.
Sweetpumper
Nov 5 2007, 08:45 PM
I just read this at one of my fantasy sites and I chuckled:
After another yardage total in the teens in terms of receiving yards, you’ve got to start wondering how long it’s going to be before Steve Smith physically attacks David Carr.
~Onyx~
Nov 5 2007, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (Sweetpumper @ Nov 5 2007, 03:45 PM)

I just read this at one of my fantasy sites and I chuckled:
After another yardage total in the teens in terms of receiving yards, you’ve got to start wondering how long it’s going to be before Steve Smith physically attacks David Carr.
Well, it's not as if Carr wouldn't be used to being hit, or anything......
Bear's Quest
Nov 7 2007, 10:10 PM
Did you hear of what Don Shula has said if the Patriots go undefeated this year.
He said the cheating happened and this season be marked with an asterisk (*)
On Espn one sports announcer says Patriots were caught red handed and yet Barry Bonds may have a asterisk with no evidence he did take steroids and then later went on to say double standard.
Should there be an asterisk next to a players name or team? I'm undecided for now
Btw, the NFL commissioner destoyed all the tapes that were evidence of the cheating.
Killer Bee
Nov 7 2007, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (Bear's Quest @ Nov 7 2007, 10:10 PM)

Did you hear of what Don Shula has said if the Patriots go undefeated this year.
He said the cheating happened and this season be marked with an asterisk (*)
On Espn one sports announcer says Patriots were caught red handed and yet Barry Bonds may have a asterisk with no evidence he did take steroids and then later went on to say double standard.
Should there be an asterisk next to a players name or team? I'm undecided for now
Btw, the NFL commissioner destoyed all the tapes that were evidence of the cheating.
No, I don't think that there should be an asterisk next to the Patriots for this season's accomplishments....even though I personally think there won't be a need for this debate because I still think the Steelers will axe their undefeated hopes. What struck me as wrong was Pats linebacker Mike Vrabel calling Don Shula an "old coach" and the players from the '72 Dolphins "old washed up players". Does he understand what's he's saying here? New England is having a phenominal season so far, but 1 loss just makes them a great team, not a historic one. Vrabel needs to worry about the upcoming weeks, like Pittsburgh and quit trying to start a conflict with the 72 Dolphins. Like I said, 1 loss....that's all it takes. And even though I'm not a Steeler faithful, I hope they shut all of this New England undefeated hype completley up in a few weeks. I'm getting tired of hearing about how the '07 Pats are the "greatest of all time", they still have a long way to go and a lot left to prove.
frogfish
Nov 8 2007, 02:52 AM
I'm sick and tired of Belichick...As of lately, the Pats have been showing no class. Breezing through the handshakes, calling out Shula, running up the score. I hope the Steeler put a butt-whuppin' to the Pats, and shut them up for good.
As you can see, I hate the Pats
Killer Bee
Nov 8 2007, 04:23 AM
QUOTE (frogfish @ Nov 8 2007, 02:52 AM)

I'm sick and tired of Belichick...As of lately, the Pats have been showing no class. Breezing through the handshakes, calling out Shula, running up the score. I hope the Steeler put a butt-whuppin' to the Pats, and shut them up for good.
As you can see, I hate the Pats

I'm getting pretty sick and tired of having every sports show on ESPN shove them down my throat, also. You're right, no class. Was it necessary to run up the score on the Redskins? It would have just been too bad if they left Brady in to make a classless statement like that and he got a knee injury that ended his season. Not only did Belichick show no class in doing that, he also jeapordised his team by leaving starters in to run up the score. I really don't think the '72 Dolphins have anything to worry about....all I can say is GO STEELERS!!!!!!
~Onyx~
Nov 8 2007, 02:39 PM
Down here in Miami, The '72 Dolphins are etched in history, especially with this being the last year of The Orange Bowl and the current installment of The Fins being ANYTHING but super, it's all anyone is talking about down here. As great as Shula was, for sooooooo many years, and untouchable as I believe his coaching record to be(326 wins), I still think he should have given a well placed "no comment" when asked about The Patriots and the possibility of them going undefeated, he and the rest of that undefeated team get the same questions posed to them every freakin year when a team gets to 8, 9, or 10-0, and this year is no exception, he should have been ready for it, he had to know it was coming. As for Mike Vrabel, as great an athlete and football player he is, he'll be old one day to, and probably think that the football players of today...and HIS team in particular...will be better and DEFINITELY tougher than the teams will be 20-30 years from now. I just hope he realizes that most of those "old washed-up players" probably can't hear him, cause they're plugging they're ears with, not only 2 Superbowl rings, but also Hall Of Fame rings, as well.........something he'll never have no matter whose coattails he rides.
Super Pancake
Nov 8 2007, 03:30 PM
I don't agree with the asterisk, because during the 70's the NFL was probably as lawless as the old west I highly doubt Shula's team were playing clean. And the Pats are clearly beating the crap out of everybody they faced.
As for Belichick running up the score I have no problem with it I could careless about unwritten rules. Teams need to shut them down if they don't like it.
~Onyx~
Nov 8 2007, 04:52 PM
QUOTE (Super Pancake @ Nov 8 2007, 10:30 AM)

I don't agree with the asterisk, because during the 70's the NFL was probably as lawless as the old west I highly doubt Shula's team were playing clean. And the Pats are clearly beating the crap out of everybody they faced.
As for Belichick running up the score I have no problem with it I could careless about unwritten rules. Teams need to shut them down if they don't like it.
I agree, to an extent, I had this debate at work awhile back about whether or not it would really matter if a team knew what The Pats were gonna do on offense(like The Pats were trying to do stealing other teams defensive signals), I mean, could they really stop them cold? Even if they KNEW what Brady and Co. were gonna do on a given play? Other than stacking the line if you knew a running-play was coming, there wouldn't be much you could do to stop they're passing game, IMO, even if you knew what was coming, given the talent they have this year.
As far as Shula's teams, or any others for that matter, doing whatever they could...within the rules or not...to win, I have no doubt they took liberties, and got away with WHATEVER they possibly could, it's just the competitive nature.
The only major problem I have with the whole "Spygate" thing, is that it wasn't as if The Pats knew what defenses were being called, they knew what blitzes were coming where they were coming from and what audibles were being called as well, that was outed by one of they're own...Doug Fultie...when he was a backup QB for The Pats. He said he used to listen in with the radio in his helmet to the plays being sent in to Brady and would hear different coaches saying "O.k., watch out Tom, you've got a bandit coming from the weakside and they're rolling up into cover 2 before the snap", and Flutie used to wonder "how the hell do they know all this?"
Now, I don't care HOW lawless and steriod-filled the NFL was back in the 70's, that kinda "advantage" was not even close to occuring, and it's not exactly like those 70's Dolphins teams were lighting up the scoreboard with they're precision passing game, they were running the ball down opponets throats and passing about 10-15 times a game. Now, do I believe that an asterisk should be placed next to The Pats record if they go undefeated this year, no, apparently they've been "cheating" like this for a few years now, that diddn't help them go undefeated in those previous years, and there's only been talk of going undefeated this year beacuse of how they've been DESTROYING everybody they come across, and if they happen to lose against The Steelers this week, all of this undefeated talk and asterisk crap will be just that, talk and crap, at least until next year.
If Shula was smart, he would'a kept his mouth shut, the past is the past, and you can only live in it but for so long, but for any of the current Pats team members to criticize those who came before them is equally as stupid, besides, it wasn't as if the players WERN'T gonna do what Belechick told them to do. IMO, it begins and ends with the head coach, he calls the shots, he makes the decisions, it's his neck on the line. I don't think anyone blames the players for performing like they're supposed to, but I also don't think anyone would disagree that Belechick himself got of VERRRRRRRRY easy.
frogfish
Nov 8 2007, 11:08 PM
Go Mike Tomlins! Lets see Big Ben shred the Pats D!
Bear's Quest
Nov 9 2007, 07:21 AM
QUOTE (~Onyx~ @ Nov 8 2007, 04:52 PM)

The only major problem I have with the whole "Spygate" thing, is that it wasn't as if The Pats knew what defenses were being called, they knew what blitzes were coming where they were coming from and what audibles were being called as well, that was outed by one of they're own...Doug Fultie...when he was a backup QB for The Pats. He said he used to listen in with the radio in his helmet to the plays being sent in to Brady and would hear different coaches saying "O.k., watch out Tom, you've got a bandit coming from the weakside and they're rolling up into cover 2 before the snap", and Flutie used to wonder "how the hell do they know all this?"


Where was I when this happened?
I wonder if this still is going on 'cause Brady has been untouchable until last sunday or is it legal for coaches to tell him when to duck or even run out of the pocket or cover up when a tackler is near.
~Onyx~
Nov 9 2007, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Bear's Quest @ Nov 9 2007, 02:21 AM)


Where was I when this happened?
I wonder if this still is going on 'cause Brady has been untouchable until last sunday or is it legal for coaches to tell him when to duck or even run out of the pocket or cover up when a tackler is near.
That actually was outted down here by a local radio/newspaper personality that sometimes fills-in on Pardon The Interruption(ESPN) named Dan LeBatard. He was talking to Flutie about the memories regarding The Orange Bowl, and the last minute pass, when LeBatard asked him about the whole Spygate thing and if he noticed anything during his time in New England, that's when he made mention of the signals and messages being relayed into Brady pre-snap, he said he understood that the coaches were just trying to make Brady aware of tendencies, but the detailed information they were giving him is what caught his attention, LOL. He said that he would listen to the messages from the sidelines and wonder "how the hell do they know all this?".
This is the first real year that Brady has had legit skill-position players to threaten the deep...or 3rd level...portion of the field. That's why everybody is so concerned about them going undefeated, it's the first REAL/LEGIT time..since the '85 Chicago Bears, IMO..that a team has a chance to run the table, beacuse they're not just beating people, they're demolishing them......which naturally then makes the whole spygate thing an issue, again.
Finsup22
Nov 12 2007, 06:44 PM
Well Indy's no longer undefeated. Will The Pats go all the way? I bet no. Wouldn't it be ironic if thier only loss was Dec. 23rd to the Dolphins. They beat the 85 Bears, I remeber thinking that was kinda karma like.
I believe bret farve is in league with lucifer, now I just need a way to prove it.
XTKiller
Nov 12 2007, 06:45 PM
GO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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