The next big "event", if you could call it that, are the cuts that occur after June 1st. A lot of guys will be outta jobs, some temporarily, some....uh...a little more permanent than that.

dude,the vikes ai'nt going nowhere but down with jackson at qb.he's the worst qb in the league.they'd have a better chance if
they started kelly holcomb instead.i do'nt know how my team's gonna do this year.been a redskins fanatic going on 40 years now.
every single year they break make heart while it's recovering from the fits the cubs give it every year!my uncle lives in st paul
and he and my aunt go to several viking games per year.

Like I said, Jackson made improvements last season. Because of his improvements (and also Adrian), they almost made the playoffs. He's obviously not a very good QB right now, but worst in the league? Don't know about that.

Ya I don't know about worst in the league.

they should have kept brad johnson in my view.he was an all pro on his worst day compared with jackson's play last year.
how are the vikes at wide reciever?

As long as Rex Grossman is a starting QB, Jackson CAN'T be the worst in the league.....sorry Fins.

Vikes are decent at WR. Berrien, Rice, and Wade.

Funny thing is, Tavaris was 6-2 as a starter last season. I did see him improve over the season. If the Vikes work on his form a little, and also his decision-making, then he would be a decent game-manager. Also, he needs to run more when he has the chance.

Don't forget Alex Smith.

If he beats-out Hill for the starting job, that is. You still have a good point, though.

I'm amazed that Smith, the #1 pick in the 05 Draft, is battling Shaun Hill for the starting gig.

On the outside, I'd agree. But given the number of starting QB's in the league who were not highly touted coming outta college, or who were not drafted AT ALL(Kurt Warner immediately comes to mind), I can see how it could happen. It just tends to make the organization as a whole look a bit foolish, but it's happened enough times already to not be too much of a black-eye, IMO. Just think about Tom Brady, for instance. He was drafted as an afterthought/tranining camp arm in the 6th round, one round away from NOT EVEN BEING DRAFTED! If it wasn't for the stupidity of Drew Bledsoe taking on Mo Lewis(then of the NY Jets) along the sideline instead of stepping outta bounds, Brady may have never even SEEN the field for The Pats. As it stands, he's one of the greatest success stories in NFL history, and a sure-fire hall-o-famer in wait. Now, will Hill be THAT good? Ya never know.

Aint dat da trut' brudda. Next injury that dude gets(3rd qtr week 2----my guess), I say he should be killed by the trainers right there on the field, like a racehorse.

So your saying it would be more humane to euthanize Grossman than it would be to just cut him? Good god, he really HAS torqued that city off hasn't he?

Ya he's about as popular as genital warts here. lmao!

When I looked Da Bears draft I was pretty damn shocked that they diddn't draft a QB, not even a developmental guy of some sort. I guess they feel like they aren't gonna be a playoff team this upcoming year(barring a complete and utter turn-around by Grossman) so they tried to shore-up other areas they felt were more pressing. Although, I can't imagine what other position they're braintrust would have found more pressing than the most important position on the football field.

I dont know what thier thought process was, but Eh...At least we got rid of Berrian, Muhamed, it's thier fault Rex sucks. Jerry Angelo is a....a....... *sighs* It's gonna be interesting come August. Lots of Voodoo dolls will be made and thrown at the TV...LMAO!

They're gonna have to lean HEAVILY on the U.M. boys(Olsen and Hester) and the kids they drafted(Earl Bennett, Matt Forte, and Kellen Davis) this year on offense. On defense it'll be the most of the ususal suspects, unless Urlacher holds out. If that happens they're in a world of hurt.

it seems to me that these newer qbs come in,get a boatload of money,and forget how to learn.i just do'nt think that they have their hearts in it like guys 5 and 10 years ago did.

All those offensive players like Matt Forte will be no good against Minnesota's D.

Talking about sucky Bears, how about Benson?

My mom is a Bears fan. I never turn down the opportunity to poke fun.

He just seems disinterested to me. All the god-given talent in the world don't amount to a freakin hill-o-beans if your heart ain't into it. Yeah, Minny looks like it's gonna contend for that division all year long. Is it just me(and don't jump all over me for this, Froggy), or do The Vikes and The Packer look strangely similar this year, especially with regards to the QB position? With the exception, or course, of Adrian Peterson.

Benson does have alot of talent, but you're correct. His actions show that he doesn't care about playing for the Bears. (My opinion). I think Ricky will have a breakout year splitting time with That RB in Miami. I forgot his name.

Ronnie Brown. That's the hope down here, especially considering how unsettled they are at QB and WR, they're gonna NEED to run the ball effectively. That's why your seeing them trying to shore-up the O-line so desperately. There is reason for some optimisim, before he got hurt Brown was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage. Hard to believe, I know, but it's true. The thought is with the R&R express(Ricky and Ronnie) running the ball behind Long, McKinney, Satele, Smiley, and Carey, teams will have to commit more defenders to the line of scrimmage and therefore making play-action more effective and giving Ted Ginn Jr. more one-on-one opportunities deep. I still feel that they'll pick-up another experienced WR after the June 1st cuts, but it remains to be seen who'll be available.

I screwed up and picked Cedric Benson on my fantasy team last season. And then kept him around way too long hoping he'd pick his game up. But I did get lucky with Adrian Peterson as my third running back. That paid off big.

I had the number 1 pick and chose LT. ( Like most everyone else did ). He was certainly abit of a let down.

LT did have a bad year(for him) last year. But he's a great keeper if your on a keeper league

He still had one of the better stats sheet of all the RBs last year...

Ronnie Brown was amazing until that injury. I hope he picks up where he left off.


Actually, you're right. There are some difference though. Minn has a MUCH better interior D-line and O-line, while the Pack have the advantage in the defensive back field (with the exception of Minnesota's shutdown corner Winfield). Yea, Ryan Grant is no Adrian Peterson...

We should have a fantasy league on yahoo or nfl or espn. Just a suggestion. Rookies are being payed ALOT of money for lack of experience in the NFL.

Hell yes....too both. Matt Ryan deserves nowhere near that much money. I guess Arthur Blank has to show that he is committed to Ryan.

I'll start a Yahoo league for us guys. Live draft and IDP? Sounds good?
We can go over the specs in greater detail before I make one.

I agree. Here in Atlanta it's either Blank gets on the side with Ryan or when Vick gets out, He'll be the Qb again!

Yes that's sounds good. I perfer live draft.

Good, me too. Who else is in?

I've never done it before, but I'd give it a shot.

I'm In! Yahoo is free too! I was In a Yahoo league for a couple of years with some boneheads at my wife's work. Ok Frog you can be Commisioner. How we going to do a live draft spread out all along the States? I say we all meet in St. Louis I'll bring the chip's.

It will be an Online live draft I'm still up for the chips though!

We'll set it at a specific time when eveyone is free. Oh, and make sure your computer RUNS THE LASTEST VERSION OF JAVA! It's not confusing, it's actually quite simple. I can help anyone that needs it. I'll go over the stuff as time nears.

So far, we have:
Frogfish
Onyx
Finsup
Cheese

The max number of players will be 12. First come first serve basis. Before I set up everything, I want to have the people set. We still have plenty of time though.

Post if you wanna be in!

We gotta get Ciraxis, Snuffy, & She-Ra for sure. I bet she knows more than all of us combined


oh yay here ya go.

Man, I remember last year in the draft when I tried selecting somebody (forgot who), but they picked the wrong guy. Instead of the player I wanted, they gave me Joseph Addai (who wasn't bad).

Good thing my team had Braylon Edwards and Tom Brady among others.

I'm in!

My vote is against IDP though.

Sure, I'll send them a PM



Great. Any reason for no IDP?


Frogfish
Onyx
Finsup
Cheese
Sweetpumper

Hey timbeau, you want in too?

Hmm, I'll think about it.

It'll be fun!!

I'm in!

Frogfish
Onyx
Finsup
Cheese
Sweetpumper
Snuffy

OK I've played Fantasy Football for 3 seasons. But! What is IDP?!

IDP is Individual Defensive Player. Basically, you draft along with the usual individual defensive players...Like London Fletcher-Baker, Antoine Winfield, or Patrick Willis, and they get points for Solo tckls, tckls, interceptions, sacks, fumble recoveries, fumble caused, pass deflections, etc.

It is really fun, and adds a whole new dimension. If we have individual offensive players, why not defensive?

OK thanks for clearing that up. I vote for IDP.

good story about vikings qb jackson.click the link.
SI

Thanks for that read. As much as we Minnesota fans like to rip on him, he really isn't all that bad. I would love to see him run more, and work on his mechanics more (that thing he does while throwing of his tip toe annoys the heck out of me).

I didn't read the article but he should run more sort of like D-MAC in Philly.

i think to play the qb position at any level,you have to become very smart and fearless.you know you are going to get hit on every passing play,but you have to know when to throw the ball away or take a sack.
a lot of the up and coming guys will learn that eventually and become better qbs and more important,team leaders.

I've played for about 14 years, finally tried it last year and it just sucked. It's tough enough to follow all the offensive players.

I vote 'no' but don't care enough either way to protest if it's included.

I've changed my mind about IDP. My vote is against it but i'll play with it or with out it.