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Daven
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We all know time travel exists right? What I would like to find out is other peoples theories. Wether its the hole lightning fast delorean theory or something more?

There is the gods channel theory:
A person or animal may travel through his set channel. He may travel this set path, but only this set path. He may act or does as he pleases, he just must travel his preset channel. A question with this theory is that if you harm something on your journey through the channel will your channel change to a alternate channel?

please post all ideas. As you can see I can use them.
booyah
I am going with the speed Idea. It makes sense doesn't it. If you go fast enough, a infinite speed, you will arive nearly anywhere, anytime. The problem is that you would be sliced like cheese. A infinite speed is a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
Magikman
Dave,

There are several threads addressing 'time travel' in the Space, Technology, & the Universe category if you would like to know some of the members thoughts. Here are a couple links for you;

TIME TRAVEL

TIME TRAVEL PARADOXES

QUANTUM TIME TRAVEL

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* - You really don't need to post reply's using different names, do you?
Saru
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We all know time travel exists right? What I would like to find out is other peoples theories. Wether its the hole lightning fast delorean theory or something more?


Daven/Booyah,

I'm afraid "delorean theory" is pure science fiction, a concept existing entirely within the boundaries of the Back to the Future films, and doesn't have any place in reality.

A metaphysical approach to travelling through time sounds more feasable, there is a lot we have yet to learn regarding the metaphysical, and it is unclear on the most part what can be achieved via such means. You will find a lot more Time Travel theories by visiting the other threads linked to by Magikman in the previous post.
HD
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I'm afraid "delorean theory" is pure science fiction, a concept existing entirely within the boundaries of the Back to the Future films, and doesn't have any place in reality.

Damn! and I was just on my way out to buy a Delorean sad.gif will have to think of a new plan now maybe I could ask captain Kirk if he could slingshot us round the sun..... biggrin.gif
Halo_Jones

laugh.gif...........Or ask Superman if he will fly round the world anticlockwise really fast! biggrin.gif

I can see where this thread is going... (thanks Superman wink.gif )
Homer
You mean the "delorean theory" is just science fiction? I just bought a delorean from a guy named Daven. It cost me my life's savings because he said it was a time machine. If you're still interested HD...I can give you a discount biggrin.gif
Saru
Homer,

Have a look to see if it's got a flux capacitor in the back seat - that'll tell you whether it's genuine or not.

Either that, or speed it up to 88MPH and see what happens. laugh.gif
Althalus
If see blue lights then at least something happened, right? tongue.gif
Homer
It did have a flux capacitor in the back seat, but Daven said a screw was loose in it, so he took the entire flux capacitor out to get it fixed for me. I haven’t seen him since. I hope he gets it fixed soon. laugh.gif

I tried going 88MPH, but the car can’t go that fast. If I wasn’t so trusting of him, I would think he sold me a junk car. biggrin.gif
Ronin6th
I heard one day : "If time travel existed we already knew that!"
Kira
sad.gif u mean to say the "back to the future films" aren't true??????????????#


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Kismit
Well youll be pleased to know I just put a new flux capacitaor in an Anglia prefect .
If your Interested Homer I could get you a deal cool.gif It's genuine Honest . smile.gif-->rolleyes.gif
Daven
Hey, by saying "lightning fast delorean" I meant speed. And theres always some fact in movies. May it be small or big. The only logical way to travel in time is by going extremely fast, right?
Homer
In theory you're correct Daven, but I can't prove it because that damn car you sold me won't get up to 88MPH!

I know an honest face when I see it, Kismit, so you got a deal biggrin.gif
wolves12
Once the velocity becomes greater than C (the speed of light) time moves backwards. We have entered into the realms of negative time.

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wolves12
Travelling into the future would be far more acceptable then travelling into the past as it would not change history.

Druss
Thats assuming that on your return from the future you do not alter future history because of the knowledge you gained whilst in the future.

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Saru
Travelling into the future can be achieved by "freezing" the subject somehow, and keeping them in suspended animation until the destination date. Although not truly "time travel", it would accomplish the feat of travelling into the future, without ageing a day.

I doubt the possibility of travelling back in time and being physically able to change the past, but I think we may be able to look back in time somehow, and see past events without being able to actually participate in them.
Homer
Traveling backwards in time due to velocity greater than the speed of light is something that was brought up previously RIGHT HERE

Gareth,
In that same link, KC and myself said what you said. If time travel could ever be possible, it will most likely be in the form of observation only, so history can't be altered.
gregsandersfromthelab
I think that if you go fast enough that you could go to the futre.

sorta like running around the world and only coming 1 step away from where you started...you would be seeing the future!

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pallidin
QUOTE(SaRuMaN @ Jan 12 2003, 10:20 AM)
Travelling into the future can be achieved by "freezing" the subject somehow, and keeping them in suspended animation until the destination date. Although not truly "time travel", it would accomplish the feat of travelling into the future, without ageing a day.

I doubt the possibility of travelling back in time and being physically able to change the past, but I think we may be able to look back in time somehow, and see past events without being able to actually participate in them.
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I agree 100%
Sunofone
i am just curious if john titor has been discussed here?his photos of his time machine and its schematic were detailed and the one where someone operating the device pointed a laser out the window while smoking a cigar and the beam was curved and visible in the smoke seems almost impossible to hoax-
seeking
QUOTE(wolves12 @ Jan 12 2003, 02:08 PM)
Travelling into the future would be far more acceptable then travelling into the past as it would not change history.
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yes it would

if you can travel into the future that would mean that the "future" is infact a present for someone else, and past for someone else as well, traveling into our future would not alter our history, but can alter someone elses with the same devastating effects
pallidin
QUOTE(seeking @ Dec 23 2004, 05:05 PM)
QUOTE(wolves12 @ Jan 12 2003, 02:08 PM)
Travelling into the future would be far more acceptable then travelling into the past as it would not change history.
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yes it would

if you can travel into the future that would mean that the "future" is infact a present for someone else, and past for someone else as well, traveling into our future would not alter our history, but can alter someone elses with the same devastating effects
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That's an interesting statement, and I would tend to agree.
gollum
QUOTE(gregsandersfromthelab @ Dec 19 2004, 02:12 AM)
I think that if you go fast enough that you could go to the futre.

sorta like running around the world and only coming 1 step away from where you started...you would be seeing the future!

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I would just like to add that you have managed to revive a 2 year old thread....brilliant!
Putte
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Dec 23 2004, 05:08 PM)
i am just curious if john titor has been discussed here?his photos of his time machine and its schematic were detailed and the one where someone operating the device pointed a laser out the window  while smoking a cigar and the beam was curved and visible in the smoke seems almost impossible to hoax-
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I've read a lot about that one. My opinion is that it's a hoax. Some of the pictures aren't as detailed as they seem to be, and some of the info contradicts itself. Nonetheless, I'm one of Titor's greatest fan. Hoax or not - it's a great story, worth reading up on for shear entertainment value.

For examples of some mistakes... The picture of the laser beam has been examined, and found to be in error. In the car Titor said the time machine was built into, some of the details are not in the picture, and some details are there, that shouldn't be there. A silly error in my opinion, as a dashboard can be rebuilt quite easily.

Harder to dismiss is the fact that the laser pointer doesn't point the same way as the laser beam...

For the info part - Titor once said they don't pay taxes in the future. And in other places, he says they do.

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QUOTE(wolves12 @ Jan 12 2003, 02:08 PM)
Travelling into the future would be far more acceptable then travelling into the past as it would not change history.
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yes it would

if you can travel into the future that would mean that the "future" is infact a present for someone else, and past for someone else as well, traveling into our future would not alter our history, but can alter someone elses with the same devastating effects
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Then you wouldn't change the past one bit more than doing something in normal life you don't usually do, as you going into the future is already the future's past, and was meant to happen anyways. I see what you mean, but I think it's not accurate.

If the person from the future on the other hand would go back to our time, that would be changing his past. If we're going to our future, aka that person's present, we wouldn't change a thing, as we would get there eventually wink2.gif

Now, going into the future, then going back... that would be a totally different matter.

QUOTE(gollum @ Dec 24 2004, 04:07 PM)
I would just like to add that you have managed to revive a 2 year old thread....brilliant!
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Well, talking about time travel wink2.gif
MedicTJ
While I don't believe that mankind will ever be able to achieve the level of time travel that would allow you to go back into the past, I do believe that there may already be a system in place for sending information into the past.

In fact, one scientist is extremely close...at last report...to actually accomplishing this. And he's no crackpot either. He's the professor of physics at Connecticut University.

Here's a link to an article about what he's doing.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/timetravel-01a.html

But in a realistic sense, we already have time travelers here among us. Anyone that is on the ISS is essentially traveling through time faster than we are, because time is relative.

In fact, Einstein's law HAS to be accounted for when any satellite is put into orbit. Satellites travel at about 18,000 mph. Their clocks have to have an actual code worked out within them to keep up with our clocks here on Earth as we mull around at our slow pace. If they didn't, the time constant would throw all of the satellite data off and any GPS hardware would be rendered absolutely useless.

The faster you go, the slower time gets.
MedicTJ
I should explain something about this though.

One might ask the question...and it's a good one....

"If time travel were possible, wouldn't we already know about it?"

In other words, if time travel were possible at any point in the future, one would think that those beings would be here to tell us about it.

But that's not the way it works. If Professor Mallet's machine ever does become a reality, then it will only be able to send information back to the time the machine was first turned on.

In other words, you turn the machine on and...theoretically....you instantly get a message from yourself from the future. But the machine wouldn't have the capability of being able to send actual information into the past before it was created......because there would be no machine there to receive it!
psycho skeptic
Time travel eh? I say its utter nonsense! I've glutted myself on Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross far too much and if you traveled through time you'd mess up the entire fabric of the universe and throw things into utter chaos. If you somehow harm one thing or person their destiny would be demolished and therefor they would effect another person and the chain would continue until all is lost. devil.gif So since our universe has not imploded yet thumbsup.gif I think that time travel is complete fiction and shall always remain that way. grin2.gif
MedicTJ
What makes you so certain that, were you able to go into the past, that you would be in the same universe at all?

According to principles of the "Many Worlds Theory", you wouldn't be able to affect the time flow in the universe you currently reside in.

It's a clever way to get around the ole "Grandfather Paradox" which states that if someone were to go back in time and kill their grandfather....technically they'd never have been born.
SilentMyst
Time itself is a human invention. Yes it literally takes "time" for the earth to travel around the sun. But *we* are the ones experiencing "time". For those unfortunates with brain damage and memory damage, "time" no longer exists. "Time" is a different experience for each of us.

It is no wonder that we "fantasize" about going forward and backward in time. How much do we "long" to know what is to come? How much do we "long" to change mistakes of the past?

SilentMyst
Shai_Hulud
Im afraid that time is only 1-dimensional in special relativity, only one direction. Effect has to be preceded by cause and under the theory you can't move faster than the speed of light, well under all theory it is impossible to reach velocity of light. Everyone is travelling in time into the future therefore we are all time traveller. Under certain condition laws of physics breaksdown such as inside a black hole, however once you cross the boundaries nothing ever comes out again.
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Im afraid that time is only 1-dimensional in special relativity, only one direction.


That is an interesting point...I was under the impression for every positive there would be a negative so if time does exist in a dimension how does it move with out a negative? What particles exist in a time dimension? are they particles that can have only a positive force?

Just Curious

seeking
nothing exists in the time dimension, the dimension of time is more of a direction
Homer
QUOTE(SilentMyst @ Dec 26 2004, 11:22 PM)
Time itself is a human invention.  Yes it literally takes "time" for the earth to travel around the sun.  But *we* are the ones experiencing "time".  For those unfortunates with brain damage and memory damage, "time" no longer exists.  "Time" is a different experience for each of us.

It is no wonder that we "fantasize" about going forward and backward in time.  How much do we "long" to know what is to come?  How much do we "long" to change mistakes of the past?

SilentMyst
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So Bears that hibernate in the winter, and any other animal who's habits change with the seasons don't experience time? What about the simple process of aging? Doesn't that take time, and don't all living things experience it? rolleyes.gif
joc
Just curious since you mentioned it....you know sometimes how you lay down at night and it seems like only minutes have past and poof it's morning? Do you suppose that hibernating bears have the same experience with time passing? hmm.gif
seeking
i would think so, because while your sleeping, and this goes for everynight, you dont feel the 8 hours or what ever go by
Homer
QUOTE(joc @ Jan 26 2005, 09:43 PM)
Just curious since you mentioned it....you know sometimes how you lay down at night and it seems like only minutes have past and poof it's morning?  Do you suppose that hibernating bears have the same experience with time passing? hmm.gif
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I've wondered that myself. Do you think they have to get up in the middle of the night(middle of winter) to stretch or go to the restroom or just scratch or something? dontgetit.gif
seeking
im betting that because they are hibernating and that they are not eating or drinking that they dont have to ever get up to use the bathroom or anything like that, and probably just to lazy to scratch
MentalMethane0110
Well Im just a newbie, but I have a thought. Dont laugh and point but its kinda out there. Some time ago one of you mentioned metaphysics, and my thought is this: Its been hypothesized that if one person could use all the different parts of thier brain at once, then they would become pure energy and have no need for the shell they used to refer to as thier body. If there was a person that could do that, then as energy couldnt they transfer thier energy to a different point in the fabric of space and time? Thus transfering energy to a different plane may end them up in another time as well as dimension. Well long reply short(er), If someone could use thier whole mind at one time, could they not move freely through space and time as we move through things we find to be trivial like wind or our ongoing battle with gravity. Speaking of, I just lost a battle with that one earlier. Please, Do your worst. Its just a theory. cool.gif
RaginCajun
QUOTE(MentalMethane0110 @ Jan 27 2005, 10:12 PM)
Well Im just a newbie, but I have a thought.  Dont laugh and point but its kinda out there.  Some time ago one of you mentioned metaphysics, and my thought is this: Its been hypothesized that if one person could use all the different parts of thier brain at once, then they would become pure energy and have no need for the shell they used to refer to as thier body.  If there was a person that could do that, then as energy couldnt they transfer thier energy to a different point in the fabric of space and time?  Thus transfering energy to a different plane may end them up in another time as well as dimension.  Well long reply short(er), If someone could use thier whole mind at one time, could they not move freely through space and time as we move through things we find to be trivial like wind or our ongoing battle with gravity.  Speaking of, I just lost a battle with that one earlier.  Please, Do your worst.  Its just a theory. cool.gif
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that is so stupi#. what in the world??? you newbies are so uneducated. go read some books. stay out of here. you are no longer wanted here. hmm..ROOKIE.

JUST KIDDING. YOU DID SAY DO YOUR WORST. grin2.gif

intresting though. but there is no fact behind what you post so i can care less.

time travel is possible. humans will never achieve it though without help. as said in some "way back" threads, if we can travel at speed of light, time or we age slower. so if we were in space and traveling at light speed and timed our voyage at 3 years, when we come back to earth 6 years would have past already. so this is sorta like time travel. THIS IS EINSTIENS THEORY.
MentalMethane0110
Some of the most important findings have been outlandish ideas, this isnt one of them. The idea itself was actually made from improvisation. I was convincing an okie athiest that there was a connection between science and religion. I was drunk and he bought it. But the concept was still interesting long after the buzz had gone. To this day Gary and Burt the athiests still think that God is a man who was able to use 100% of his brain and move freely throughout the time stream in an ongoing experiment to perfect humanity. That was a good night. Got WASTED! Anyways, just throwing something out there for all of the other theologists to look over and say " another ass " . haha hahaha

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seeking
its hard for me to understand how one would turn into energy if they used thier entire brain all at once, any one have any additional info on this?
MentalMethane0110
The whole reply is based on an idea that was concieved while I was drunk. There are no facts to this theory, So as RajunCajun said Without any facts to back this theory up, you should care less on the matter. The idea of someone using all of thier brain at once and turning into pure energy was pawned off of the movie " Powder". In case any of you have seen it, you now know where the theory came from. It was actually a very learning experience on the psyche of okies. If they dont know whether or not if its true, or if facts are even feesable, they can be sold anything. Not only did they BOTH buy this second hand fictional theory, they both questioned thier religious standpoints. For some reason they sought christianity. Why? I have no idea. Maybe its the bible belt thing. As for me Im not going to turn this forum into a religious discussion. It was a pawned off concept, and I was wondering how many others would buy it. Bravo for the both of you. You cant sh1t a sh1tter. haha hahaha
Irish
I am from the year 1956. It has taken me 47 years to reach your time. I quess you can call me a TIME TRAVELER. Oh by the way that road sure is bumpy original.gif
seeking
powder was a good movie, and everyone knows we can travel into the future
star_child
QUOTE(booyah @ Jan 8 2003, 11:26 PM)
I am going with the speed Idea.  It makes sense doesn't it.  If you go fast enough, a infinite speed, you will arive nearly anywhere, anytime.  The problem is that you would be sliced like cheese. A infinite speed is a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
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Me too. If you can travel faster than light, then you reach your destination before you leave. Make sense to me.

Dont dwell on it too much, it does get confusing.
RaginCajun
QUOTE(star_child @ Jan 30 2005, 12:02 PM)
QUOTE(booyah @ Jan 8 2003, 11:26 PM)
I am going with the speed Idea.  It makes sense doesn't it.  If you go fast enough, a infinite speed, you will arive nearly anywhere, anytime.  The problem is that you would be sliced like cheese. A infinite speed is a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
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Me too. If you can travel faster than light, then you reach your destination before you leave. Make sense to me.

Dont dwell on it too much, it does get confusing.
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one can't ponder that idea...because the fastest speed know to man is light. infinite speed???=uneducated kids or people posting. it makes no sense because you guys base silly ideas without facts.
star_child
QUOTE(RaginCajun @ Jan 31 2005, 01:18 AM)
QUOTE(star_child @ Jan 30 2005, 12:02 PM)
QUOTE(booyah @ Jan 8 2003, 11:26 PM)
I am going with the speed Idea.  It makes sense doesn't it.  If you go fast enough, a infinite speed, you will arive nearly anywhere, anytime.  The problem is that you would be sliced like cheese. A infinite speed is a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
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Me too. If you can travel faster than light, then you reach your destination before you leave. Make sense to me.

Dont dwell on it too much, it does get confusing.
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one can't ponder that idea...because the fastest speed know to man is light. infinite speed???=uneducated kids or people posting. it makes no sense because you guys base silly ideas without facts.
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Fastest KNOWN speed is light. Exactly. Remember the days when people never believed humans could fly? Anything is possible these days. Dont make assumptions.
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