Hi

well, im glad the time diFFrence (got it right this time, yay! ) is explained now.
I envy you guys that can see your psi balls, i just cant.
Hey portholer, you can see your psi ball right? do you have other kinetic abilities or you just see it because its strong enough? And another thing, if you dont have any other skills in kineticks how long did you take to see your psi ball?
Im not gonna be able to post here everyday from now on, i spent 50 bucks n dialed up internet and my mom was very mad.
But ill do my best to go in my school´s internet and post from there

bye

ps: im starting to get really addicted to this forum

Andrei, almost everyone who comes to UM becomes addicted. In the year that I've been here, there's been at least 2 "UMoholic Anonymous" threads .

I can't actually see my psiballs. I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right. Sure, I get that tingle in my hands but, if I get it in my rioght hand (the one I focus on) I also get it in my left (which I'm not focusing on). Which leads me to believe that the tingle aint anything out of the ordinary...

I couldn't say how long it takes to learn this sort of thing. I guess a few months? Right now, TK is my big project with meditation, dowsing with pendulums, psiballs and (extremely erratically) telepathy.

TK update
I spent "20 minutes" last night practising with ab-sol-ute-ly nothing to show for it. Really. Then again, proably about 2 minutes of that was actually focused on the psiwheel because my mind was all over the place, heh. I kept getting sidetracked by memories of conversations I'd had that day, mulling over things, interesting articles I've read lately, pendulums.....

And then I tried again today in psych class with equally disappointing results, but my friend was nice enough to tell me a story about determination (the one about the two frogs in the cream who couldn't get out. One gave up and died, the other churned the cream into butter and was able to hop out. She then ended it with "You churn that cream, Potholer!").

So, anyone starting to get a bit discouraged - Don't just give up and DIE, churn that cream like you've never churned it before!

Hi

I have to tell you guys about something i found on the web, its a part of a book (probably) that explains how to do some really cool stuff with energy, i´ve read 7 pages so far. Its very interesting, its about a way to improove body energy, i found it when i was looking for something to make my energy stronger, i thought that maybe if i could get my energy to improove then it would be easier to move on from psi balls to aerokinesis (wich is my favorite) and other kinetic abilities.

the file is attached to this post

Well, just in case the file wasnt attached in the last post, i will put the link i got it from: http://www.astralpulse.com/downloads/downloads.htm
Its a very good website

Edit; removed obscene remark. Restless you're free to express your opinion on any subject, but it would be appreciated if you did it without using vulgarities.

Edit; removed quote from above post.

SHUT UP if YOU dont believe then its not real to you any way.

wot did restless say thats got you so worked up house? musta been bad since it looks like the site monitors edited it to cut it out.... im guessing restless is a skeptic though? am i right??

Out of curiosity, has anyone actually been able to levitate an object of any type into the air, not move it slightly, really levitate, like right infront of you.

nup but im really still working on the psiwheel i wanna master that perfectly first but i was thinking of moving onto a toothpick or straw n use the psiwheel as well but i dunno.... school kinda restricts my time...... gotta practice my ek too..

hey this really sucks ...i mean the connection's busted and i can't post much inm the net coz the connection sucks and i'm not having much time to go too much and i'm not being able to post much and i did get attached to this forum....so i dunno how i'll continue well time's up byeeee
miss u all ( arwen potholer tameer anakim... ) well got to go now

AWWWWWW!! we miss you too scorpion! its quiet.... no one really replies as quick...

snivvle dont GOOO

in been knda practicing im gonna start practicing really hard starting the fifth

Hey everyone

Yeah, the more often you practise, houseonfire, the better you'll get, quicker

Hows everyone's progress coming along? Or, like me, is it just not?

I think levitation would be quite hard to learn? If I'm slow at TK, I'll be going backwards with levitation

Hope everyone has had a good day/night



Potholer

hey! well i was able to spin it last night but still having trouble controlling it but anyway when i cupped my hand over it it moved when it stopped i lifted it really slow n it span n i did this for like 5mins it was cool! im getting better!

That is so darn cool arwen!

I remember reading this thing ages ago about TK and moving the psiwheel. It said that, when you cup your hand over the psiwheel and it mves, it's the heat from your hands creating air currents and therefore moving it.

When I first started out I thought to myself "Well, if I can't actually do this properly, at least I'll be able to mvoe it with the air currents" and you know what? Every single time I've tried doing it that way, jsut sitting with my hot little hands cupped over the wheel, NOTHING HAPPENS! So disappointing, looks like I'm going to have to learn how to do it properly :P

i know when ever i literally cup them beside it/around it it doesnt move at all but this was different i sorta had my palm facing down n my fingers splayed in the 5 points of a star but all my fingers were arched. so it was kinda like a cage so yer! hehehe apparantly those people were wrong i like proving people wrong hehe heheh oww... lol!

When you cup your hands like a cage, why do you think it lets you spin the wheel easier? I'm thinking your creating a field of energy over the Psiwheel cause when you make a psi ball, the hands(probably fingers too) release the energy. In telekinesis, its probably the same way. Your fingers and palms are controlling the Psiwheel in all directions(but not the botton).

I love making theories

hehe theories are fun! :P:P!

call me dumb but botton?? im sorry sometimes, especially nowsince its 12.21 AM my brains runnign a lil slow... still tired from soccer.
But we won 1-0 so its a good!

When you cage your hands over the PsiWheel, you only cage it over the northern hemisphere of the wheel, therefore creating an energy field only to the top.



I'm not even allowed to be on the computer at that time, nor am I allowed to be up at that time as well...life sucks



thats good news

o... ok


hehehe my mum doesnt mind if its the weekend! plus shes half way across the world right now !


indeed! were coming 2nd again! hehehe only two games left..... i am sooo buggered though! n then tomorrow were seeing the new movie "the village" it looks awesome. o n monday i have piano, southside soccer tournament (schools of state thingy) then i have soccer training ARGH! im not gonna be able to get up!

uh oh! i was just wobbling my tooth n it snapped n i have no idea where the snapped bit went! ok so i was trying to pull it out... well its better than habving the dentist pull it out in oct isnt it?? crap theres like a third of the tooth left nuts... oh well i should be able to eat on the left side of my mouth again.....

sorry couldnt help but share LMAO!

whipee, you lost a babytooth. Do you know the band jet? they are from australia and they won award for best rock band in the US.

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I've got band in 2 hours...
teacher: BAND-TEN-HUT!!
band: SPARK!!(school)
me: (i've got 7-8 hours doing this, why'd i join it, its like boot camp.)

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NO!! cause i'm to lazy to do it, and the patience is unbearable ...

heheheh so why ARE you here in this thread LOL!


yups only one n a third baby teeth left n im free free!!! WOOT! lol soory ....


yer! i think their good from the songs i've heard! have ya heard of aerosmith?? they're good n liv tyler's (arwen-lotr) dad is the lead singer
hehehehe


thjats a good question why did you join lool i tried once in yr 4 i think it was.. i was utterly rejected... may as well stick with piano !
cant you jsut quit? i would! i getta nuff of school as it is!

Cause I believe in telekinetics and i like to help people.
And the real reason I don't want to practise telekinetics is because, right now, so few people realize this ability and so many are aware its a fantasy. I don't want to be on either side. I want to know its there, but the human race still needs to know more of this stuff...

whao, your related to a lead singer !!!



I love music and its my thing. I can't let some snotty teacher(can't call him old, he is only 24 ) ruin my music abilities and make me quit. Plus, i've got many friends in there and i have fun marching(we look like nutcrackers ). Its like saying would you joined the army and quit?

this is like instane message...were on the comp. at the same time

fair enough! sometimes im on noones side but my own so i dont care if people insult n stuff. sometimes i feel i have to defend though. so basically im on the fence unless i post a defensive reply


huh?!? no liv tylers dad is lead in aerosmith! you arwen from lord of the rings hehe not me! LMAO! though my dad is the lead singer in a band called f-troop but i havent spoken to him in like 3 yrs really.. one of my bestfriends cousins uncle is the son of johnny o'keefe! he's johnny jnr LMAO! anyways still striving to be a singer! our school recently got a recording htingy.

hey hailo? wots your msn?? mines just arwenpotter@hotmail.com


well yes i would join the army n quit coz i dont like the army n i'd like to annoy some of the sargents for the fun of it like my friend did; she was in cadets than after a yr couldnt be bothered showing up n then the sargent rang her! she thought it was me coz i called her a couple of times n she answers saying WHAT?!?!?! it was sooo funny!
its a good i dea not to let them ruin you if it wot you wanna do. like me i couldnt bear to quit piano (but then again i have a really nice teacher!) hehe my maths teacher is 28 n he recently proposed to his g/f!! we think thats sweet coz hes cool but cracks the corniest n i mean the CORNIEST jokes!!

I don't have MSN... sorry
but i do have yahoo: bizarre_x2@yahoo.com :kinda bizarre my friends think i'm strange .


The young teachers are so funny!! My band teacher is like always in war with my classmates(3+ class clowns in band). One of the tuba players are so funny, the entire band laughs like every 5 minutes, I mean ROFL and my teacher makes another statement to make it even funnier!!


thats an great way to get intruduced into the music industry, call your dad !

hehe i have yahoo aswell for trading paino pieces with people since you get 100mb instead of hotmail 2mb but in my opinion hotmail has better features... ah well ;) at least we can talk on yahoo although i recommend you get hotmail!


LMAO! i agree the oldies just arent much fun... wel most arent yeah we have tons of class clowns! but unfortunatly the gay thing is we also have some who are friends with the class clowns who then are try hards coz they try n be like the clowns... so not funny.... but eh.... wot can ya do??


i would but he's being a real jerk right now last time i tried to talk to him n try n stop the stupid fight that he n my brother were going on aboot (my parents are divorced) he made me cry n told me not to contact him anymore

i'll try



not much of a clown, but somehow i think how i got so many friends because i'm pretty much a quiet person, then i become someone very talkative.



2nd source: your piano teacher, in which you've already said....still a great way

heheh good... LOL


heheh i make so many friends coz im talking almost ALL the time! i can talk aboot anything even if i've only just met them eh heh]


yer we stopped bothering figuring oh well his lost specially if he' a bastard. i particulary wanna rub it in his face if i become famous! LOL! not the only reason i wanna be famous mind you...

bizarre_x3@hotmail.com

many people are like that. My friends likes to talk a lot too.

cause your father was always acting non-fatherly to you when you were younger?

P.S. How far are you into TK? like how mature are your abilities?

heheheh we grow in numbers YES! LOL


nah he was fine when i was young basically up until i was aboot 11? that was after his second divorce at least that wife was really nice.. ( i knew her when i was little) but then he sorta stopped caring after he met the women who wouyld soon become his third wife.... she's a real cow.. a goldigger;i kid you not. my dad's like co-dependent....



well im up to finding it easy as hell to move the psiwheel i've cut down the time it takes to psin it to aboot 1-2mins... im really proud ! but i havent practiced since my last results/progress... i dunno been really busy since my mums in china... have to look after all the cleaning! thank god we have a dishwasher!!!!

hehehe... was looking back n found this
im normally to impatient for almost anything! i cant wait for anything! specially if its like a new gamboy advance game or gamecube or anything really ! i even start to fidget when im not doing anything! i cant bear sitting still for too long! but wicca, magick n the kinetics are the only place i really have patience for anything... though since i meditate alot more nowadays pateince is increasing !

Impressive.....a person can spin the psiwheel at will. That is a rising psion there. I bet your not the only one(not me), many people are out there who have developed their abilities to levitating a pencil.

awwww thx hailo !!
im still thinking of trying the toothpick... maybe i can make it sorta like a psiwheel by balancing it on something then slowly move so i have to roll it

i hope to become a skilled psion! these sorts of things would be interesting to teach my coven

It's so incredible taht you're making so much progress.

Next step: Trying it in a controlled environment?

I was thinking about this. What's a controlled environment? And I thought that, if you chopped a Pump drink bottle in half, it would be big enough to fit over the wheel. And then, to stop any air currents sneakily slipping under the edges sitting on the desktop/surface/whatever, you get some bluetac or plasticine and put it around the cut edge and stick it to the table/desk/whatever.

Or, when you're really really confident, show your science teacher! See what he/she thinks of it?

We really need to get your webcam working! I need visual encouragement. Iwas getting all grumpy last night because I can't do it and I watched one sad/gory show and the beginning of another and some stuff going on lately that's had me down and I couldn't find my happy place. But it's ok now

Is anyone else learning TK besides me and arwen?



Potholer

nup hailo doesnt have the patience lol!

for the controlled enviroment couldnt i just put a glass over it to save time in cutting the bottle in half n stuff it should fit i will though (try it)


she's seen it shes no skeptic by far! shes awesome someone i really trust n she's into this sorta stuff too. ill show her properly when i cabn control it for sure. i should probably practice today!

i think the webcam works but im not too sure if i can control it n get the cam working ill send visual aid for encouragment k pot? i know wot you mean when i first started i could only move it if i was upset or something but i realised thats not good so i made sure i was either nuetral or positive in my mood. took a lil while longer but is none the less more effective n better...

Well, I guess a glass might work but...I dunno, aye...

I'm so silly.

I guess there's no legit reasn why, but I'm surprised that your science teacher is so unskeptic! Skeptic and science just go hand in hand, skipping down the street.

And that would be so incredibly great to see!

I think I was just having a bad night. My confidence has (more or less) returned

And yes you should practise, young lady!

Right... You just have good luck with that guys! Be prepared for a long wait since not even buddhist monks in Nepal who meditate for a living can't really get any results in few years so how are you gonna get any? Get a grip on reality, find a nice girl and go bang her. That's for everybody (except the women of course in which case I suggest you find a nice guy and bang his brains out!).

Maybe you should try something even remotely possible like lucid dreaming for instance or bodybuilding... or nose picking... I don't know... do something!

oaks eveyrone lets just ignore that last post so this doesnt become like me ek one. a debate which ruins the whole point of the thread

n pot? you may feel like kicking me at this moment coz i erm... didnt practice... eh heh heh.......

i think glass may be harder coz it solid n thickker... but who knows??? lol

yer my sicence teacher is the best! shes so nice n stuf. right now she's teachign us chemistry that college people learn (were the advanced class) shes also interested in runes, tarot n all sorts of stuff. i did a reading for her once

YYAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!! hadnt practiced for 10days so i made myself practice! took me a while to realise why i couldnt spin it which was becausew i was questioning my ability coz i hadnt practiced in so long. when i finally got over that i got the best results! stopped n started it more than 5 times :D:D:D

im soo tired now though! n i feel really weak n my legs are like jelly. the back of my head ached for a bit too.... but it was all worth it. stilla lil bit light headed lol

Yay arwen, thats great to hear that you got some practise in!

I didn't realise you get, well, sick/headachy/whatever from doing TK. Is that normal?

Have you worked out what you think about when you spin it? or are you beyond that point where you have to really try and it comes more naturally?



Potholer

yeah i know! it only took me 10 days lol!

i only got sick n head achy coz i made sure i got the best results n really pushed my ability to the max.

i think a different variety of things... it seems to come naturally anyway... so im not sure... though i kept saying i believe, believe over n over.

Arwen, I want you to try spinning the wheel without cupping your hands over it and just put them on your lap. Can you post if they spin faster, or slower, or results!! I'm not to psychic-mature to do this .

ok hailo but only coz its you!
LOL!
ill see if i can try it tonight

Aight, thanx arwen .

Theory.....hehe.........my hypothosis states that spinning the psi wheel with out the hands.....a much more distant communication, but exercises it......

i know this post was a while ago but these people arnt the "gods" of telekinesis. people in places like thialand who live in very remote temples are able to levitate themselves. so maybe you should check the history be for you start.

i know they're not gods but i strive to be able to do those things...

hehe there seem to ba alot of gaps in that hypothesis hailo LOL

Does the wheel spin without your hands ?