Come on Pot, you know I have a lot of belief in many aspects of the paranormal. This includes a lot of psychic phenomena. But I am also openly skeptical about a few aswell. This is simply one of the most unproven aspects in the psychic field you are ever likely to come across. Not one genuine piece of evidence which leads me to think it is probably an area of the paranormal world that will remain a myth.

Good luck though.

As always Pot, you're very welcome.

im with you potholer! if i can ever prove it i will! though hopefully in a way that doesnt attract much media attention...

Yay arwen!

Heh, yeah, good point about media. But heck, who's going to be interested in a 14yr old Aussie claiming to have TK or a 16yr old Kiwi claiming the same thing. I think we're safe

Heh.

But yes, when we get good we show everyone we can yeah?

Yay arwen and Pot out to change the world eh?

wat's up...
i was just wondering about when trying to turn the psiwheel what should we think in our minds..

Hey Scorpion Spirit

I wondered about that when I first started too. I'm still not quite sure what I should be thinking but, generally, I fill my mind with the impression of "psiwheel" not so much words like "white, turning, edges, folds, light blue lines, turning" but impressions. Think in thoughts not words.

I hope that makes sense. Ask me for clarification if it doesn't.



Potholer

scorpion spirit, i find that i think of a variety of different things once after potholer asked me what i think when i make the psiwheel spin i bore that in mind when i span it and at first i had doubts that i was spinning it then i though "no, its me... its me" over and over again! i found thats the best "session" i've ever had with the psiwheel coz it span 4 full turns!! this was friday i think.. though i haven't practiced since.. heh schedule problems....

Hailo_hellFIRE sounds interesting but... could take a lotta convincing... im willing ish

Haha.

I don't know about that though aye... I mean, you must admit that there's a bit of preconceptions about psi and that it's wishywashy new age stuff (heck, I feel silly sometimes listening to others but then realise I'm doing the same as they are and therefore can't be hypocritical).

I'd like to start small - friends and family (that includes the UM family). Then bigger...



Potholer

btw guys i managed to spin the psiwheel 4 full turns on friday!! though i havent practiced since eh heh heh i will right now....

YAY arwen! That's so great!! *high five*

Are you still up for proving to others it exists? It's one of the main reasons I'm sticking with TK - it gets results. Because, if you're still in, we really need to get your webcam working .

Now that classes have started up again after mock exams I can sit in class and practise, tehee. No results today at all... but we must keep practising.

Yay for you arwen

HI

I em exploring the other topics, im from psi ball guide I posted there a few times.
I just want to say that what you guys do is great. Your are so lucky you got to know about this early. I just found out about psi and stuff a few weeks ago. i will have to practice a lot to be like you guys, but ill get there .
Congratulations

I will start to post here a little, so get used to me

Oh My Gosh guess what!

I was sitting in psych parctising and guess what!

I moved it heaps! I decided to cup my hands over it to give that a go. I've heard that exaplantion that, if you cup your hands over it, then the heat from you hands warms the air and creates air currents that move the wheel. But, the room was chill, as were my hands and, even when I removed my hand (giggling maniacly) it kept spinning.

And I had a witness - my friend Jess, who was totally amazed (as was I, heh).

But, YAY.

I managed to do it twice too. First, I span it then let it stop and tried again and got it going again .

Now all my friends want to see it properly but I am definately nowhere near that level.

We're on our way arwen!

And that's great Andrei. Indeed, practise is the only way to get this and it's much more fun when you've got buddies to learn with.

Potholer

PS I love high fives

Great arwen and hope u'll turn it again
And good for u also potholer lol....
i guess there's still me well *fingers crossed* i hope that finally i'll be able to do it....
and btw welcome andrei
and potholer about the clarifications can i get them hehehe thanks

hey where's everyone??
no onje said a thing today
u know this forum sounds empty without arwen and potholer... lol
we miss u guys hehe
coz i got used for ur post coming every minute lol

Hey All! Im just starting to try Different Types of Kinesis, But im just wondering How to Practise them? And how long should It take before I see any improvements?

Lost In Though try this site and search for telekinesis: psipog.net

WOOO! GO POTHOLER GO POTHOLER!! *HIGH FIVE* HEHE WELL NOW IM HAPPY! I KNEW YOU'D GET IT EVENTUALLY !!!

yeah sorry aboot my delayed posts scorpion spirit my bro keeps getting home before me!! the i only get on in the mornings before school like i am now! gonna be LATE!

hey Andrei! good to see your interest is growing !

hey arwen how's it goin i was just wondering if u could tell what to think about when trying to turn the psiwheel...?

ok it's ok
i don't want u to be late to school get goin....
i'm still in my summer vacation

Scorpion those clarifications? Ok, I've worked out that, I think, when I try it, I think of nothing. Well, not nothing, but just all that fills my mind is white, like the psiwheel and papery, like the psiwheel and worn out edges, like the piswheel and soft folded edges, like on the psiwheel.

*ponders* Making more sense? If not - here's my third attempt ()

Ok, in your mind when you think, do you think in words or images/impressions? For example, when you're reminding youself that you need to...get some apples from the store, do you think "Gotta get them apples when I go to the store this afternoon" or does the image/impression of all that is appley flash in your mind?
Well, that's what I'm talking about. Instead of saying "Move psiwheel, move, go on" (though I do do that to help me not drift) I just allude to it.

Once again, if I'm still not making much sense, tell me and I'll try again .

Oh and, keep in mind the time differences! We're probably not going to be the same times as you are .

And welcome Lost_in_Thought!
You know, truthfully, psipog didn't help me much when I went there. It was all "meditate" and "become the psiwheel" and I didn't get it. This thread is what really got me going. You can ask us any questions, because we're on our way (aye arwen )

Hehehe

And thanks arwen So glad I've finally got it. I hope I can do it more now (though I couldn't do it at all today - probably because I wasn't really trying).

Phew, long post.



Potholer

basically scorpion spirit wot i think of is wot potholer told you... i used to think it was thoughts and sometimes it is but thinking back i've noticed that i just sorta faze out when it begins to spin, im not aware of wots around me

hehe well scorpion its 6 weeks into 3rd term, 2nd semester! we run different to you our summer vacation is around christmas to feb next year coz thats our summer here in AUS! and i just got back form school its aboot 3:40 (takes me 1/2 an hour to get home )

yeah i didnt use psipog to get started and to be truthful i havent actually read the article but tameers site is under construction n the articles arent really accesible yet... so psipog was the next thing that came to mind since im sure tameer got the psiwheel from there...

hey thanks arwen and potholer i'll keep that in mind..

im glad to see potholer n i are helping you scorpion

again sorry for being unable to talk for long but my bro *sigh* grrr

thanks ...it's okay arwen i mean u helped a lot...it's okay lol...
is ur bro older than u?(that was my question on msn :lol:lol )

yer he is... hes 18- four years older he also locked me off the net yesterday coz i stayed home.... i couldnt get up so.... yes ;)

any new luck people?? coz i was controlling it yesterday.. like with my right hand i was focusing on one corner and then i moved my finger forward it span that way for 5 secs then i moved it back n it span that way for 5 secs... i was able to do this for aboot 5 mins i think... it was reall really COOL!! im sorry but im really HAPPY!

*cheers*

YAY ARWEN!

That's just mad! Congratulations!

I need to practise more. For a while I was losing confidence because it almost seems, every time I moved it, it was when someone was passing by my desk or maybe I was breathing on it but I realised that, when that happens, the wind produced makes it flap wildly and not the smooth rotation it does when I do it.

So, *phew* belief crisis averted .

*applaudes arwen again*

hehe thx! n i know what you mean, if i purposely blow on it it spins crazy almost toppling over not like when your moving it with your mind n it looks like its just gliding along... although this may take a hell of a lot more effort i think im gonna try toothpicks since they roll n see how i go.. couldnt be too much harder than a psiwheell... could it?? ah well... we'll see... any new progress potholer??

i've noticed that me, scorpion & potholer are basically the only ones who talk much..

well my psiwheel is actually begining to turn too a bit but out of control...and it's a good thing that we talk too the three of us hehehe...my time in the network i's up i'll explain all later okay bye00

Hi

I was looking in the internet to see how i make those psi wheels of yours, i found it very interesting
well, i found this link
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Telekinesis%...r%20fantasy.htm
, i read it, and its not totally crazy , just a little.
If you have time you should read this, the guy´s got some real arguments to prove we are wrong
Oh, by the way, i havent found an article on how to make and spin a psi wheel, if you guys have anything about it, i would sure aprecciate it

bye

my school starts tomorow so i wont be getting much practice in, and i just was on a vacation where i was too busy to practice but i can make psi balls now, and does that help move the wheel?

yer we get summer holidays off too except our summer is when your winter is! its all oppisite for different hemispheres... summer heres dec,jan,feb... so i got a LONG way to go before summer holidays! DAMN

Hi

Yes arwen, of course i would like that.
By the way, do you know what is the time diference between australia and brazil?
I mean, i got you online one single time and you said you would be late for school if you kept talking to me, allthough in brasil it was 7 pm that time.
There must be a hell of a time diference .
I think diference has 2 "f"´s, but im too tired to look it up in the dictionary

bye

Hi again
just a quick ps: My english just keep getting worst and worst doesnt it?

Heh, it's not too bad Andrei - if we compared my level of french (which I learn at school) to your levil of english then you're pretty damn good.

And, I thought I'd look the time differences. I wasn't sure where either you, Andrei, or arwen exactly are in Brazil or Austrailia so I put arwen in Canberra and you in Acre. Which my quesses are kinda close to right, then you're about 13hours behind arwen and 15 hours behind me.



Potholer

LOL! maybe that explains all the enviromental stuff that happens! nah theres so many volcano's because of the way the techtonic plates shifted... wait! did i just remember something from the only class i hated last year, sose??? OMG RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!

ok... right well lets get this sorted... right now, this minute/month its winter becoz of different hemishperes but it'll be summer there, where you live. when you have a winter white christmas thingy its summer n boiling here.

Summer-DEC JAN FEB
Autumn-MARCH APRIL MAY
Winter-JUNE JULY AUGUST
Spring-SEP OCT NOV

so thats our seasonal year... you is oppisites so...

Summer-JUNE JULY AUGUST
Autumn-SEP OCT NOV
Winter-DEC JAN FEB
Spring-MARCH APRIL MAY

Am i right?

Hi

well, im glad the time diFFrence (got it right this time, yay! ) is explained now.
I envy you guys that can see your psi balls, i just cant.
Hey portholer, you can see your psi ball right? do you have other kinetic abilities or you just see it because its strong enough? And another thing, if you dont have any other skills in kineticks how long did you take to see your psi ball?
Im not gonna be able to post here everyday from now on, i spent 50 bucks n dialed up internet and my mom was very mad.
But ill do my best to go in my school´s internet and post from there

bye

ps: im starting to get really addicted to this forum