The Boy
Mar 27 2006, 12:59 AM
If you are truly wanting to learn telekinesis, the best way to start is by practicing on dice.
ShadowDragon
Mar 27 2006, 01:03 AM
dice is OK but the psi wheel is the best for me but for some it is the dice that works for them
exponential_sly_de
Mar 27 2006, 01:10 AM
Your right mad...children.....you must eat your vegetables if you want to be telepathic!
Eh I dunno how you practice flexing a muscle you cant find. I just am naturaly empathic and telepathic, I dunno how to practice I just keep getting better with age.
Megalomania
Mar 27 2006, 05:40 AM
QUOTE(ShadowDragon @ Mar 27 2006, 12:03 PM) [snapback]1121931[/snapback]
dice is OK but the psi wheel is the best for me but for some it is the dice that works for them
Don't bother with psi wheels :
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Uncovered%20psi%20wheel.html
Insight
Mar 27 2006, 09:34 AM
QUOTE(ShadowDragon @ Mar 26 2006, 05:03 PM) [snapback]1121931[/snapback]
dice is OK but the psi wheel is the best for me but for some it is the dice that works for them
Actually, the psi wheel has been proven to be the least reliable source to test telekinetic abilities. Ask aquatus1 about his experiments with a psi wheel.
The psi wheel can move all by it's self and by air currents. It's fallability lies in the way it is balanced, and the grain of the paper. I could set one up right now, and see it move from time to time without any mental exertion at all.
There is really only one way to test psi: You must try to affect negative odds in your favour.
A psi wheel has no odds of moving one way, another way, or at all.
A coin flip, however, should balance out to 50/50. A die roll, should balance out to 1/6.
If you could concentrate some sort of etherical signature on one side of a die, and try to ground that side with the earth's gravity, you may be able to develop a technique to influence the roll in you favour.
The only way to really determine if your mental eminations are having affect on matter is to cause that matter to function in a way that it would not normally fuction.
A psi wheel has no odds governing it's randomness. Therefore, technically, any movement you see can never be proven to have been the result of your efforts.
ShadowDragon
Mar 27 2006, 12:33 PM
I See what you are saying i will try it with dice...ive moved something as big as a pencil but i havent done TK in a while...but i will try the dice more often.
now the pin wheel can be good to get started doing TK because it makes you think you are doing it...it took me 3 days to move a pin wheel how i wished.Left right hell one time it floated but only once.the best way to tell if your doing it is to make it do sudden stops spin left then stop then right.thats a good way to tell but if dice works better by ill means try it im gonna
Bio-Mage
Mar 27 2006, 12:48 PM
The dice throwing is inheritedly biased because the way we handle and cast the die is specific to our unique mannerisms. You can overcome statistical probability by repeating the manner in which you throw for a certain result.
If you are going to use an appropriate set up for telekinesis. That should strive to eliminate factors that could account or influence the outcome.
ShadowDragon
Mar 27 2006, 01:00 PM
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Mar 27 2006, 06:48 AM) [snapback]1122537[/snapback]
The dice throwing is inheritedly biased because the way we handle and cast the die is specific to our unique mannerisms. You can overcome statistical probability by repeating the manner in which you throw for a certain result.
If you are going to use an appropriate set up for telekinesis. That should strive to eliminate factors that could account or influence the outcome.
I see what if someone else throwed the die they wouldnt know what number you picked...wouldnt that help?
Bio-Mage
Mar 27 2006, 01:10 PM
No...it would be biased again because of A PERSON throwing the dice. I would refrain from using "random event" techniques as they are far from constructive with telekinesis. I more direct approach would be a more prudent choise, ie you can either move something on a surface or not without any other forces acting on it (save gravity I suppose).
Good luck
dragonfly98628
Mar 27 2006, 11:11 PM
strangebutsmart
Thanks for the help I am going to try Iwill let everyone know how it goes.
dragonfly1047
Apr 2 2006, 01:54 AM
I actually made a Psi ball finally its was really cool thanks for all the help.
Insight
Apr 2 2006, 05:44 AM
Psiballs are merely dragon ball Z foolery. What function does a "psiball" have? Is the answer to that, "Any function you give it"? If so, a term which explains everything, really explains nothing.
ShadowDragon
Apr 2 2006, 05:51 AM
insight you are getting on my nerves she is my girlfriend...so i would relly be careful to make her out to be a fool cause i promise you will regret it.
Megalomania
Apr 2 2006, 06:16 AM
ShadowDragon, I should point you to the fact that most people aren't on the internet to make friends.
Don't expect everyone to be nice to you, your girlfriend, and your dog.
And online threats never work

Just a helpful internet hint
ShadowDragon
Apr 2 2006, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(Megalomania @ Apr 2 2006, 12:16 AM) [snapback]1130578[/snapback]
ShadowDragon, I should point you to the fact that most people aren't on the internet to make friends.
Don't expect everyone to be nice to you, your girlfriend, and your dog.
And online threats never work

Just a helpful internet hint

well i understand threats never work but im sorry you dont make my girlfriend out to be a liar...and can i ask you something why do you follow insight around like a broken dog following his master like are you two bed buddys?are what cause its starting to get a little fishy
ShadowDragon
Apr 2 2006, 07:56 PM
insight i understand youve made some good points i agree with some things you said but when you make my girlfriend out to be a liar it causes something to spark and just dont make her out that way again please im asking nicely...i will train her how i see fit and psi balls help for beginers
Insight
Apr 5 2006, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(ShadowDragon @ Apr 1 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]1130548[/snapback]
insight you are getting on my nerves she is my girlfriend...so i would relly be careful to make her out to be a fool cause i promise you will regret it.
First of all, the word is spelled, "really", not "relly".
Second of all, I'm calling your bluff. There is absolutely nothing you could possibly do to make me regret it.
I understand defending your lady's honor, but please, spare me the threatrics of any hacker dellusion you might have about yourself.
Better yet, I'll wire you 100 bucks if you can cause any error to my computer whatsoever.
ShadowDragon
Apr 5 2006, 08:56 AM
OK Insight I don't know what your problem is with spelling but your acting like the grammar police. I have you know that when you correct peoples spelling or whatever your coming off as a real jerk and that's not helping matters...Some of your posts have been really good but you and your grammar crap is getting annoying.
So back to topic how's everyone coming along?I am doing a lot of meditation and it helps with focus but I admit Im not as good as I could be so Dragonfly how are you coming along?
Triad
Apr 6 2006, 03:11 AM
Insight about 10 years ago this guy hacked into the FBI mainframe from his PC (while his name escapes me at present I do remember the article about him) he was able to access the 1-800 number used by agents to talk to each other as well as contact there offices (in other words no long distance). He was actually arrested because he was using the number to place long distant calls and as far as I know to this day he is still residing in prison (by the time they caught him he had made a whole lot of calls).
I am just curious Insight what kind of PC do you have? I mean are we talking Craig 2 with hard drive that would a fill a warehouse or do you have Intel Inside?
Let’s be honest if it is the latter

Relating it to evidence of PSI is simply not there.
SD understanding and applying PK is no different than working on becoming physically stronger; no pain no gain.
Any thoughts?
Insight
Apr 6 2006, 05:28 AM
Insight about 10 years ago this guy hacked into the FBI mainframe from his PC (while his name escapes me at present I do remember the article about him) he was able to access the 1-800 number used by agents to talk to each other as well as contact there offices (in other words no long distance).
Yep. these things are certainly possible. However, ANYONE who is able to do something like that would NEVER accounce the ability over an unsecure forum. Why? because they would be arrested.
Bluff called.
I am just curious Insight what kind of PC do you have? I mean are we talking Craig 2 with hard drive that would a fill a warehouse or do you have Intel Inside?
Screw intel. They over rank their chipsets. It's AMD all the way baby!
Let’s be honest if it is the latter
Was I saying my computer was impossible to hack? No. Was I saying that this kid couldn't hack it? Yes.
But anyways, I digress, as this thread is off topic now. Sorry.
dragonfly1047
Apr 6 2006, 10:28 PM
I'm doing ok I am just a little irritated. But thanks for asking.
Triad
Apr 7 2006, 02:16 AM
QUOTE
Yep. these things are certainly possible. However, ANYONE who is able to do something like that would NEVER accounce the ability over an unsecure forum. Why? because they would be arrested.
Bluff called.
I would certainly add paranoia to your resume Insight; I am simply using that example as an analogy to explain how affecting a computer (in the manner you suggest) would not be applicable as evidence of PSI.
QUOTE
Was I saying my computer was impossible to hack? No. Was I saying that this kid couldn't hack it? Yes.
And what does Shadowdragons ability or inabilities to manually affect another person’s computer have to do with telekinesis??
QUOTE
But anyways, I digress, as this thread is off topic now. Sorry.
The thread is not of topic but to be honest you seem to clearly be.......
Any thoughts?
Insight
Apr 7 2006, 09:06 AM
I would certainly add paranoia to your resume Insight; I am simply using that example as an analogy to explain how affecting a computer (in the manner you suggest) would not be applicable as evidence of PSI.
*laughs at himself* Ohhh, THAT's what you were getting at. I feel a fool. We were both on completely different pages here.
Let me explain myself. My post doesn't have anything to do with the topic, I'll admit. I was merely going off on a tangent regarding this statement by shadowdragon:
insight you are getting on my nerves she is my girlfriend...so i would relly be careful to make her out to be a fool cause i promise you will regret it.
You see, when he said "I'll regret it", I immediately thought of the dozens of self proclaimed bluff-hackers to use scare tactics.
All I was doing was responding to an empty threat in, admittedly, a poor manner. I'm not perfect after all. *chuckles*
In any case, allow me to say, "My bad", and let's continue on with the topic.
Triad
Apr 8 2006, 04:39 AM
The following is a video of Ninel Kulagina a Russian peasant girl who astonished scientist with here ability to move objects even through a glass case....
http://www.meaningoflife.i12.com/Telekinesis-Video.htmQUOTE
Ninel Kulagina - demonstrated that she could by mental direction alone, move objects across the table, displace compass needles, and make a pile of matches explode outwards. And she could subsequently show that by PK, she could separate the white of an egg, which had been broken in a saline solution, from its yolk, and stop the heart of a frog beating.
The concentrative effort required to move objects by PK accelerated her pulse to 200 beats per minute, dangerously raised her blood pressure and upset her EEG wave pattern, which are the type of physical changes that normally only occur when a person is suffering great stress. They left the Leningrad housewife exhausted, dizzy, and depressed, and blurred her eyesight. They were eventually to result in a heart attack; this stopped her from taking part in further experiments.
'I think only of the object and that it must move,' she told Henry Gris and William Dick, the authors of The New Soviet Psychic Discoveries. 'I concentrate on it. I must tune myself into the object. I feel as if some kind of energy is pouring from the sides of my fingertips, and from the sides of my hands.'
Psychic Development Workbook, How to Awaken & Use Your ESP, by Rodney Davies
How to do Telekinesis (Pk)Any thoughts?
ShadowDragon
Apr 8 2006, 07:03 AM
Great link Triad it gives some really good tips everyone should check it out.
Subtemperate
Apr 9 2006, 12:45 AM
Ok people lets make sure that no more of this bickering continues. Threats are never called for, and people who like to nitpick others grammer and spelling to try and put others down really ought to work on some inner issues of there own.
Now hopefully we can act like adults, and get on with the topic at hand.
dragonfly1047
Apr 9 2006, 12:58 AM
Ok we shouldn't be arguing over something as simple as spelling. Insight it would help if you weren't so worried about peoples business and how they spell.
Triad
Apr 9 2006, 04:09 AM
QUOTE
Introduction
This article is a review and analysis of several experiments conducted in Russia during 1980-90s on living organisms’ distant influence on other living organisms and physical devices (primarily noise generators). Experiments were performed by or under supervision of qualified and unbiased scientists known to authors, however, in most cases those were exploratory studies usually terminated by lack of funding and in some cases unpublished.
Selected experiments have one common feature: their results are unexplainable by acoustic, electromagnetic or other known processes because effects observed in these experiments could not be shielded by electromagnetic screening, practically did not depend on distance, and, in cases with human operators, occurred only when intentional bonds were established between the operator and the subject.
Analysis of these results led us to conclude that the influence of living organisms on devices occurs at a quantum level, i.e. human operators or living organism seem to act on elementary particles of the objects and their spins at a distance. We believe that to explain the nature of that influence one needs to look deep into the matter itself and study the properties of the physical vacuum, still not quite understood by modern science.
Rest of link....Any thoughts?
Triad
Apr 9 2006, 04:17 AM
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I hope that some readers may by now have picked up a message that
sceptics might prefer that they did not pick up; that (i) psychic
phenomena may be both consistent with physics, and conceivable in
rational terms; and (ii), as a corollary of (i), that many of the
experiments on the paranormal may be measuring genuine phenomena,
which it should be the goal of science to try to understand.
http://www.roma1.infn.it/rog/group/frasca/b/bj3.htmlAny thoughts?
dragonfly1047
Apr 10 2006, 03:52 AM
If there are any Moderators out there we need a chat admin cause there is a creep in the chat and if there is a admin there not helping.
ValkyrieVoice
Apr 10 2006, 06:47 PM
I don't know how to make my mind work beyond what it does. The most I've done is move the chain of the ceiling fan when there was absolutely no air blowing in the room and I wasn't anywhere near it to breathe on it. It's exhausting, to say the least. I'd love to be able to move things beyond a chain.
dragonfly1047
Apr 22 2006, 07:33 PM
I'm a beginner so i cant give advice but no one has been posting lately so i had to post something.
Triad
Apr 23 2006, 05:44 AM
Read my comments on page 31 that should help....
Any thoughts?
astail
Apr 28 2006, 02:05 PM
ok to every one trying to learn this abilitie..... it may talk awhile but dont give up...if u truly have it in side u then it will come out sooner or later...I have this and I have only noticed times ..I can do it at will...allong with the other bilities I have ..( telepathy,empathy,and a few others...)and it tolk me a few years to even c what Iam seeing now about three years ..I did't have to maditate nore practice every day...well with me my grandmother was a witch so alot of this comes very natural to me ...so dont know if u will have to maditate or partice every day...but u know..um all I can do so far is make a pice of paper shake and I can move it back and forth...um dont think that Iam all old because iam only 15 so it is very possible dont ever dought u'r self EVER u know y ...because...this may not much to go on but the reason is because I have told u and others on the ...u will know what I mean when u c results then u will be back here telling someone the same thing Ima telling u ...I can tell u hom it feels ..I always thought u would feel some srange felling or something..truth is u feel as if u where doing it with u'r own hand ...if u where't look when u do it u would think that nothing is happening to untill u turned to look.....but I have one more thing to tell u all ...I belive that all though we r not different we r...i think that one day we will be needed to do something that normal people cant do...so every one get ready learn u'r abilitie use it get strong because one day we all will meet because we will be needed to help... others ...get ready ..I dont know when but I will be soon
willowwitch
May 24 2006, 02:46 AM
Hi. I can make things spin and direct them by making imagenry walls to stop thm from going where I don't want them to. Is that far or not?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
May 25 2006, 12:17 AM
QUOTE(astail @ Apr 28 2006, 09:05 AM) [snapback]1166943[/snapback]
ok to every one trying to learn this abilitie..... it may talk awhile but dont give up...if u truly have it in side u then it will come out sooner or later...I have this and I have only noticed times ..I can do it at will...allong with the other bilities I have ..( telepathy,empathy,and a few others...)and it tolk me a few years to even c what Iam seeing now about three years ..I did't have to maditate nore practice every day...well with me my grandmother was a witch so alot of this comes very natural to me ...so dont know if u will have to maditate or partice every day...but u know..um all I can do so far is make a pice of paper shake and I can move it back and forth...um dont think that Iam all old because iam only 15 so it is very possible dont ever dought u'r self EVER u know y ...because...this may not much to go on but the reason is because I have told u and others on the ...u will know what I mean when u c results then u will be back here telling someone the same thing Ima telling u ...I can tell u hom it feels ..I always thought u would feel some srange felling or something..truth is u feel as if u where doing it with u'r own hand ...if u where't look when u do it u would think that nothing is happening to untill u turned to look.....but I have one more thing to tell u all ...I belive that all though we r not different we r...i think that one day we will be needed to do something that normal people cant do...so every one get ready learn u'r abilitie use it get strong because one day we all will meet because we will be needed to help... others ...get ready ..I dont know when but I will be soon
Would you say your powers stem from your witchcraft?
MindFreak=Awesome
Jun 1 2006, 12:57 AM
[size=7]Hey guys. I have been doing phykokenises for a whoping A DAY AND A HALF!!! Well i reely need help. i get my psi wheel to jiggle a little but not turn really good. any suggestions? Also i really really need help making psi balls. I learned but i cant see them, i can kinda feel 'em but not really. If someone could please help me because i really want to learn this. Also when should i meditate, while im doing it after or before? I think this stuff is amazing, and i dont see why people are so doubtful bout it!
MindFreak=Awesome
Jun 1 2006, 01:00 AM
Hey again. willowwitch thats amazing!!!

How do you do it? Can you tell me how? What do you visualize what do you think what physical movements do you do? Thats awesome.
ChocolateFairy
Jun 1 2006, 04:25 AM
Does TK only apply to objects or can it refer to people too. What do you call it when a person has the abillity to affect the mood of a crowd of strangers. I have on several occassions, with slight gestures, moved a crowd of people to clear a path for me to walk through, find seating, whatever. At parades, concerts, events. As far as objects. I have opened a drawer looking for an object and wouldn't see it. But if I concentrated on that object and went back to that same drawer in that same spot the object would be there. I never make anything flash directly in front of me by floating, but things have appeared in empty drawers. I dont know how and I dontknow if that's considered Telekenesis.
dragonfire6
Jun 1 2006, 04:00 PM
Im just starting at this but i've determined that i'm able to use empathy and need help with telekenisis im not getting very good results and does anyone know about seeing the future in your dreams thenit happening the next day any help would be greatly appreciated.
dragonfire6
Jun 1 2006, 04:02 PM
its called empathy chocolate fairy when you affect the mood or emotions of other people around you I have that as well but cant control it properly thats why i came to this site i also need help with my telekenisis and premenitions if anyone knows about them.
vergil_dmc3
Jun 1 2006, 04:47 PM
dragonfire6
Jun 1 2006, 05:41 PM
well u basically have to visualise energy coming from a source into you then target that onto an object or so i have heard ani way
vergil_dmc3
Jun 1 2006, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(vergil_dmc3 @ Jun 1 2006, 11:47 AM) [snapback]1213646[/snapback]
yea man that sounds kinda hard to do i need more help than that. haha

thanks for that help though, your the first person ive met here thanks.
dragonfire6
Jun 1 2006, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(vergil_dmc3 @ Jun 1 2006, 07:20 PM) [snapback]1213697[/snapback]
yea man that sounds kinda hard to do i need more help than that. haha

thanks for that help though, your the first person ive met here thanks.
its OK bt i need help 2 thats why i joined this site to c if ani 1 could help.
Triad
Jun 2 2006, 01:19 AM
Try page 31 in this thread/ post 460
dragonfire6
Jun 2 2006, 09:07 AM
QUOTE(Triad @ Jun 2 2006, 02:19 AM) [snapback]1214218[/snapback]
Try page 31 in this thread/ post 460
wat exactly should we try that method on?
dragonfire6
Jun 2 2006, 09:28 AM
hi i managed to make the psi wheel twitch to the right today not far but enough to know it was me. lol il keep trying.
dragonfire6
Jun 2 2006, 09:47 AM
what did every one do 2 make the psi wheel spin fully for the first time????
Megalomania
Jun 2 2006, 10:08 AM
Psi Wheels have been disporven:
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Uncovered######psi######wheel.htmlHere, have a read.
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