That's not telekinesis.

hi, i kinda have just been doing this whole TK thing for a few hours. i was trying to just make psiballs, and as a bit of a test, i tried "throwing" them in front of my cat, hoping it might chase them as a kind of verification that i had actually made one. i did it a few times and nothing happened, when finally i gave up. i tried to get up, moving my hand, and all of a sudden my cat watched something fly to the other end of the room i was in. needless to say, i was excited. i just felt like posting that.

hello everyone i have been practicing telekinesis for 5 years and i have progressed verry much in the past 6 months, I aslo started out on the PSI wheel and it too m about 6 months to master that. after the psi wheel i moved onto straws on a mouse, then sliding tissue, sliding straws, pens, and alot of things,then rolling pens and finally for the past 3 weeks i ahve been able to levitate tooth picks and straws. I also use constructs to move things. i dont meditate for telekinesis and i have come a far way with out it, i also astral project but i have to stop cuz I might have an evil enitity in my house ( says my parents) . soo if anyone needs help with anything , tk,astral projection , constructs, telepathy, remote viewing, just message me here or im me on aim at sk8888ordie and my msn is sk8888ordie@hotmail.com

aim: sk8888ordie
msn: sk8888ordie@hotmail.com

okay, i have looked all over the internet, an i cant find any articles on "psi wheels" can any one explain what they are, and possibly how to make them?

thank you for any input

Hi my names Joe im 17 an im just tryin to expand my mind an i saw this thread an if anyone could help me some way itd be really nice ive been able to since things like ghost on an off an im trying to be able to move stuff an maybe like remember dreams an stuff so any help would be greatly appreciated

Moro did. Here are the two links - the posted thread and the video:
Psi -v- SCI Post Number 127

Here is YouTube Video - Not using Psi but using the knowldge of SCIence.
Moro's Video on the Pin (Psi) Wheel on YouTube

The thing is in the whole thread of Psi -v- Sci, it is stated in a lot of different ways, one must have a good working knowledge of Science. Other wise one can be easily mis-lead to see it as something else.

So as to not duplicate the other thread - I would encourage other's to read the thread and ask questions of what science is in effect verse Psi.

i am not very far into my telekinetic training. i think i have been able to make a couple objects "twitch", and i think i have been able to make a psiball, of course it was not very strong, that experience explained here, post #33.

hi ppl i've just begun my tk training,ive tried for 4 days now, but yesterday i finally did it, it moved, i put it under a glass so that the ari currents did not messed up, but today i was trying and i it not move, ive focus on the object but it not moved, and now im getting disencourged =(, like thinking did i move it yesterday or i didnt, im doubting in myself

You are not doubting , but realizing that nothing happened. You are being totally rational. Thats good.

I can make one too...................................out of papar mache


I tried that once and I felt something that felt like the opposites of magnets trying to push my hands away but I don't think psi balls that people can use to make shapes or psi shields or use as eyes are possible.

hmm thanks, well i have only to continue my training in TK, but the focus part is so dificult, i try to block my thougts but its pretty dificult...

hi guys im new on tk and i was woundering if someone could help me on what to do 1º.

Hi, i came across this thread kindof by accident...i was googleing to see how criss angel broke that glass in the kenetic energy skit(or whatever u wanna call it) .....and i dont beleive or disbeleive this subject.....

I always have felt that people are ment for somthing more, that im not actually living my life the way it is supposed to be. I work, come home, goto sleep. then do it all the next day. and a few nights ago i was getting something to eat at like 2 in the morning ... i noticed a glass of water on the table and for some reason...idk why..but i wanted to see if i could make it move? lol...i dont know where i got that idea from..maybe watching too much tv...but i sat there staring at it...i started kinda tripping out and could feel the space between my head and the glass....im not saying i can do anything out of the ordinary....but i had my eyes closed, visualizing the glass and actually feeling the space ...it was weird...i wasnt even on drugs or anything....and when i opened my eyes to see my progress(lol) i saw the water kinda rippeling....like somone put a finger in it....Idk maybe i placed my hand on the table or somthing...or maybe my eye's w're seeing things because i was tired...

Does anyone think someone with no training, belief, or knowledge of this subject could have any hope of doing somthing like this? ...i would try it again ..or practice...but honestly...i feel kind of silly staring at a glass of water for 10 minutes.

Oh and while im on the subject of wierd stuff....

I was with a friend one day, walking thew a supermarket...( ill admit...i did smoke a lil weed with my friend )...but as i was walking, i saw this girl who looked up at me..and i swear to god her face looked like it was glowing blue. Not that her face was blue or somthing..it almost looked like heat waves coming off the hood of a car on a hot day...but it was blue..almost like someone photoshopped her face....and i just kinda stopped stared at her for a minute. My friend thought i was "Bugging out" ...and i kinda was after i saw that lol...but iv never experienced somthing like that whenever i smoke...so idk...Just to let you all know... Im not crazy, im actually a very normal person who has a very normal life with a very normal state of mind.

Ive heard about tk i always get jelous when watching charmed prue has it (on first seris or so then she dies) i want to learn it how young do you have to be? do you need to meditate? what is a psi ball? how do you start off please i really want to learn it will show my non-magic beliver friends i can i want to be able to unlock a hidden abilty i belive in santa faries magic telekenisis phsics (im a bad speller ) please email me with ansers

megan1575@hotmail.com

Today i feel like wreking my room because its so hard how do you guys get it so easy is their an age barier or something cuz if there is i can wait its just so frustrating but i belive that if you close your eyes and open your heart belive in yourself thats where it starts i also would like to make a sheild when my sis starts throwing things at me one thing i half think is true that you can start fires with your mind but how do i focus (ive been watching too many magic movies) but i belive tk is true i just need to grasp it reach out and touch it mentally and hold it tight ive always wanted to be a fairy wich is weird i dont really care about bending spoons. First i belive the object (pencil or 1 post it note) then i ask it to move then i demand it to move then start stampin on it cuz it doesnt work (wich usually breaks it) oh i just wish i had tk in mental grasp

Its So HARD WHY WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW FLASH -
There is no evidence that anyone can do Telekinesis.
There is no evidence at all.
I am curious as to why you even think this is possibe??

You obviously don't get it. I've read a lot of your posts in various threads and while you may be inteligent, you are in fact an idiot.

People who believe in this stuff aren't going to stop believing because of people like you. WE think this is possible because of genuine personal experinces that whether you believe are true or not, we do. So there is no point in telling US what YOU believe. We know what you believe. We are not asking you for advice, so stop trying to drive a steak through our hearts. So what if we don't believe like you do? We are allowed to speak our minds and we will continue to do so with or with out people like you.

Now. Is anyone who's not a skeptic interested in getting this thread started again? Cause i could use some help.

Considering nothing has ever been shown to be real by anyone, you will be waiting awhile for help.

Well it does depend what type of help he wants


The skeptics have the right to post too And they also have the right to speak their minds.

Does anyone know electrokinesis? Any help in this part?

Since the human body is only able to deal w/so much electricity b/4 it would short out your heart and brain .... static electricity is the best you could hope for .... also there simply is no evidence of this even being remotely possible except on Sci-Fi movies w/Special Effects. So unless you know a good special effects guy - it's kind of a moot question....

No one said you don't. You all say the same thing. You're point is across. We get it. You don't believe. This doesn't mean you will change the believers.

I guess we foolishly hope that common sense or logic or rational thinking might eventually kick in as to the silliness of these fantasy claims... We hope ....

It would seem to me that the glaring fact that NO evidence of this even exists would do just that: GLARE AT YOU ... forcing you to ask, "WHY, isn't there any evidence??"

We can always hope, but I think life experience is the only help.

I know Eric ... just wish some of these "psi kiddies" would be willing to learn from others that show a little more wisdom and logic in this ... Beliefs do not facts make .....
Why isn't there any evidence to be found?
Why does "this" (psi power) only seem to work when no one is around?
Why do the 'teachers' - 'preachers' of this seem to avoid w/excuses to step up and show the 'power'?
Why do we except these excuses?
.... sigh ................

There is no evidence of God existing either. Yet half the world believes in God. Most of the other half believe in a supreme being. Something devine.

But yeah. See I mentioned the personal experiences before, but i guess you find that so irelevant that you just skipped right on over it. There are reasons for all of us believing what we believe. Those that believe will not stop believing because of lack of evidence. Face it. It's true. No matter how hard you try.

You do honestly realize that "God Argument" is the last ditch effort of desperation, I hope? >> there is the word again: HOPE.

The problem is - this isn't a 'faith based' dialog. The Psi Kiddies state their "x-men" powers as FACTS .. not FAITH. Sorry - but this is just as I stated: a last ditch attempt to try to 'save face' ... I hope you see this?

So you use faith then? So in a sense it is your religion? Thats what it sounds like.

You are mistaken my friend. It is merely an example of the many things that people believe in whether or not there is proof or not. You stil managed to Skip right over it again. Or maybe you only argue the points you can win. I used to do what you do. I did it with religion though. I found it so much fun to f**k with the believers heads it was ridiculous. Point is, I still can't prove that god doesn't exist. And while i have not proved to you that TK is possible, doesn't mean that it's not. And i haven't exactly gone looking for proof either. In which i doubt you have either.

I'll be leaving now. If any one would like to offer me the help i asked for, send me a PM please.

ohhhhh maan this thread is FUN !!
and Jjbreen trying to knock some sense with his legion of helpers into people before they watse enormous time of their lifes.
Jjbreen you'r so dedicated and devoted to your cause it's so sweet, papa bear educating kiddies

all the newcomers, read from beginning of the thread, many questions are already answered there and links provided.

Yes he is educating them. They sure as heck need it.

I'm glad you find it entertaining ... Hey Kevin, maybe we should start charging a fee?? Since it's entertainment! ;)

To bad the "psi-kiddies" - have actually taken this to where some local (where I live) "psi kiddies" actually got hospitalized w/serious enjuries because they 'believed' their powers were real .... That is NOT so entertaining to me .... that is actually sad - So is it just 'faith enough to believe'? No - these kids had "faith" - they "believed" and no matter how strong their "faith" & "belief" --- apparently it wasn't "enough". Broken bones, cuts, and other injuries. Not to mention the pyschological injuries they have.

So do I take this seriously? Yes, because the one thing I expected to happen a couple of years back - is now happening. Kids are taking this "fantasy" into their real lives and being hurt, because it isn't real.

I also have friend in the legal profession telling me this is starting to slowly surface around the USA ... So I guess the advocates of this would tell these kids, "Gee, you just didn't have enough faith and belief" (??)

true ture..

"Gee, you just didn't have enough faith and belief"

I don't try to learn things that don't exist.

It's funny how anonymous people are able to post in a thread about all the things they are able to do, yet you never actually see any of these people out there proving it. I mean, telekenisis is still being debated. These people who can apparently do it, can change all that. And I don't mean silly little fake clips on youtube, I mean doing it in the presence of a live audience or on a news program, or hell, even on Oprah! We all know that we are only aware of a small percentage of our brains capabilities, however if people have managed to 'hack' into something that will attract the attention of people on a global scale, then get out there and show the world. I just don't understand it. If I saw someone on the nightly news lifting objects simply by focusing on them, I would dedicate my life to learn how to do that. But yet, all we have is cheap talk and no proof.

Bravo!! Bravo!!! Bravo!!!!

Well stated ... very well stated!!

Exactly where are all these "preachers" - "teachers" - "believers" - "talkers" ..... when do we see anyone "WALK THEIR TALK!??" (Never! Why - because even they know -- they'd fail .... <= It's just that simple .... They don't wish to make fools of themselves. It is better to be thought the fool then step up and remove all doubts....

Im gonna try it...It'll help with my conquest of the world plot! Ill try tricking my mind first. But how am I gonna do that? I cant trick myself! Oh, Well...Im going for it

is this about kinesis or psychic as a whole?

Telekinesis is easy to learn. Very easy. Just takes some discipline.

Well, considering it's a thread on *looks at topic* telekenisis, that is indeed what I was referring to

I totally agree.. and to farther discredit the "10% of the brain" people that think we hold all these hidden powers... we use, on average, 10% of our brain AT A TIME. We have actually proven that we use about 90% of it (10% while reading, a different 10% while paying bills.. etc). The brain is still a big mystery, but the 10% thing is an often misquoted statement.

Yes. Stare and squint long enough and you will halucinate that you did it.

Yeah it always works out perfectly. As long as I pretend to do it, it works!

Exactly right on. The 10% Brain Use Myth was an early desperate attempt by "Psychics" to try to scam/sell people on the 'why/how' their "Psychic Powers" work. They were using 'more' of their brain then the people in the audience. Which at the time might have been true.

** IF you can handle the truth!

Here here is a web search link for you:

Comcast.

Ask.Com

Google

Notice the TOP Listing is: URBAN LEGEND!


There is no small alarming awareness that a lot of the "believers" on UM maybe only do use 10% of their brains!

They have failed on purpose or other wise to engage:
** Common Sense.
** Rational Thinking
** Logic
** Critical Thinking Skills
** Analytical Thinking Skills.
** Listening Skills
** Reasoning Skills ... To name just a few.

Then when science is mentioned as to various reasons and such as to why this cannot and will not work - the 'believer' goes EMO. Even recently on another thread - one basically denied the "Human Error Factor", putting themselves above making a mistake. Talk about EGO!

Plus now and I fear - yes fear, there are small local news reports of kids ages 8 - 15 yrs olds, now being injured and hospitalized by doing things "psionic" - "indigo" psychic power/belief things ..... sigh .....





Or Eric - they finally see reasoning and just reach out and move it w/their hand out of frustration .... "see I moved it!"

http://www.crystalinks.com/telekinesis.html
http://paranormal.about.com/od/telekinesis.../a/aa031703.htm
http://www.newageinfo.com/telekinesis-training.htm
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publis...icle_6683.shtml
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/learn-devel...-beginners.html

For all those interested in telekinesis here are a few sites.

Utter nonsense.

All these sites you found are useless! Trying to teach people about a power that simply doesn't exist, is nothing more than
showing illogical thinking skills.

. What do people get out of believing in something so adamantly? Maybe you had some kind of experience you can't explain
by means of your own knowledge, so you automaticaly assume you have some kind of supernatural ability! Again, this is
nothing more than illogical thinking.

. Maybe you read about an ability on a few of these ridiculous sites, and now want to try and learn an ability, only to practice
at it for a month or so with no results other than the minimal results that can be easily explained by natural causes.

As it's been said many times! Take away the science in these claims you take away the ability.
If people would just take even a little bit of time to read more into whats really going on with some of these claims, they would
realize that most can be easily explained by natural causes.

There is just no solid evidence to support any of these claims; most of it is nothing more than childish superhero "X-Men" fantasies.
When people can come on here and act like they have more sense with these ridiculous claims, some of us skeptics may take you
a bit more seriously! But, automaticaly assuming such abilities exist with no research or evidence to back it up is doomed for ridicule
from the start.


Regards,
Tom

since you are saying this i will presume this information is not for you but they are for others.

thank you

Someday others will realize the flaw in these claims! But, unfortunately there will be more to come that
will replace them.

Just keep this in mind cryingwoe! No evidence, No ability.


Thank you for being serious about what you believe!


Regards,
Tom

Cryingwoe -

First off none of those sites offered any credible or valid proof. There is NO FIRST HAND proof of what these sites "preach". Why is that? Why is it that even 'preachers', 'teachers' and authors ONLY put up drawings and diagrams. They never show first hand themselves doing these things? Funny how that is!


One gave list of "people in the past" and in that list was good old, "uri the spoon bender" who has been debunked more than just a few times --- even in public.

But here is what I'm going to do:
I am going to e-mail those sites authors, preachers and teachers of this the link to my $1,000.00 challenge here on UM. I'm going to post the E-mails publicly and it will be stated that I will be doing this. The letter will be to the point - it will not mix words or be politically correct. It will ask them, among other things - why can YOU not provide first hand credible and verifiable evidence of what you preach? I'm sure, if I even get an answer, it will be entertaining for sure. But like those on UM who preach, teach and such - avoid this - I actually expect the same from them: Avoidance. Which will speak volumes.

That's the problem w/websites like this, CW - they 'talk a big talk' - but NOT ONE OF THEM CAN "WALK" their talk! You have to ask ---> WHY IS THAT? Why all the excuses?? Answer: it's all about $$ - the selling of their books. They have the fine print: "Results are not guaranteed." For they know they can offer none, hell --- they can't even do what they write about, except meditate. That's it ....