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Sleeping with Fishes
QUOTE (cryingwoe @ Nov 10 2007, 04:17 PM) *
oh how lovely you can make it spin shall i say congratulations?



Only if it makes you feel all warm and snuggly inside. Not quite sure what point you were making but hey ho.
Moro
As Mr. T says, (I pity the fool...) laugh.gif

Seriously though! A little knowledge can go along way if people would just learn
how to apply it properly! thumbsup.gif


Regards,
Tom
Sporkling
QUOTE (Spanky_ @ Nov 10 2007, 09:14 PM) *
Only if it makes you feel all warm and snuggly inside. Not quite sure what point you were making but hey ho.

oh just trying to be friendly
crazyrichie
I did it! lol
Took a strong magnet and i managed to telekinese the opposite charge on the table. original.gif
No really I'm not trying to dis anyone but.. would that fall under the catagory telekinesis?
Think about it.

(wiki links the term with psychokinesis (moving distant objects with the mind) but TELEKINESIS is just moving objects from a distance
If you are persistent by the first meaning (psychokinesis) using the mind then maybe incorporate magnetic or gravitational forces into your cerebral system stong enough to get the job done.. .. . yeah like that will ever happen grin2.gif

Or another interesting twist:
What if you blow against a feather floating in the air. You command your brain to release air from your lungs to make a 'distant' object move. Whoppa instant telekinesis.

Yea yea I know we all thought of that and its just smalltalk but, with all due respect, humans talking about telekinesis is like an ant couple talking in latin.
Im still happy with telekinesis as I know it in science fiction. Quite entertaining really (and makes you want to have this ability yourself).
Richie
Sleeping with Fishes
QUOTE (cryingwoe @ Nov 11 2007, 01:39 AM) *
oh just trying to be friendly



Sorry I took it as sarcasm. My apologies.
joelp617
omg i cant do it. I have tried moving a little piece of tin foil. I stick my hand out [palms facing down] and i point it to it. I could feel something in my hand but i dont kno if its jus it getting tired because it begins to shake and I could never keep my hand still without it twitching. help me please
Jake13
Well, try leaning it on something. I personally practice while sitting in front of a table, hands leaning on it.
If you feel a tingling, your good.

Ive been working on psycho telekinesis for a while, yesterday, I attempted moving a post-it note on the table. Im happy to say it worked. >_> D:
Two odd things though, while I did that, it felt as though my thumb was kinda throbbing, or the vein at any chance. Is this normal?
Secondly, I used an oddly simple method of pure visualization. ._. Is THAT normal? xD
QUOTE (crazyrichie @ Nov 10 2007, 10:18 AM) *
I dont believe in telekinesis, now i respect everyones perspectives on life and stuff like this but what exactly is it that makes you believe this stuff to be able IRL?
And how can I try this for myself? Any nice links to begin this? I have an open mind for everything.
Greetzzz Richie

I personally believe in it for two reasons, my great-grandfather was a healer in a war. (We are Russian) Second reason, why not? Whats so hard to believe? If, as scientists say, we use 10% of our brain. Dont you think another 1% could be used psionically? And of course there is the fact that "Micro-tk" (affecting chance outcomes) has been proven.
"Researchers have taken hundreds of small-scale experiments that, on their own, are incapable of exposing weak paranormal abilities, and assembled them into a super-experiment that gives the sort of numbers of test subjects available with the aspirin trials. And when this aggregation of results in done systematically it shows that -- amazingly -- the 'effect size' of some paranormal abilities is very substantially bigger than that of the effect size for aspirin and heart disease -- as much as 0.55 (against 0.03).

Some of the most outstanding results so far have come from meta-analysis of experiments like those carried out by Robert Jahn and Roger Nelson of the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) programme at Princeton University, where researchers have accumulated years of statistical trials on microscopically small psychokinetic effects -- known in the jargon of the paranormal business as Micro-PK.

Test subjects are asked to try to consciously influence electronic devices whose output should be random, rather like an electronic version of coin tossing.

in December 1989 Dean Radin of Princeton's Psychology Department and Roger Nelson of the PEAR lab published a paper on the meta-analysis of micro-PK experiments not, as might be expected, in a parapsychology journal but in the respected physics journal Foundations of Physics. Their paper was entitled, 'Evidence for consciousness-related anomalies in random physical systems.' In their analysis, Radin and Nelson tracked down 152 reports describing 597 experimental studies and 235 control studies by 68 different investigators involving the influence of consciousness on microelectronic systems.

Radin and Nelson's article showed that the aggregate of all these trials dramatically provided powerful evidence for micro-PK. For they found that the odds against the overall result being the result of chance was 1 in 1035.

To understand how unlikely it is that this result was obtained by chance, it is like finding a lottery ticket in the street, finding that it is the winning ticket and you have won first prize of millions -- and then continuing to find the winning lottery in the street every week for a thousand years."
Taken from <a href="http://www.alternativescience.com/psychokinesis.htm" target="_blank">http://www.alternativescience.com/psychokinesis.htm</a>
If you really want to test it out, I suggest 'http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/bellcurve/' Just visualize a hand pushing at the line.
QUOTE (Spanky_ @ Nov 10 2007, 04:07 PM) *
I made a psi wheel yesterday at work. I made it spin really fast. I DO NOT have any special powers, I didn't concentrate or try to imagine some kind of energy flowing from my fingertips to move the psi wheel. It moved because of science. I only learnt what a psi wheel was yesterday (about 10 mins before I made one actually). In my opinion (and more importantly, in the opinion of thousands of people far more knowledgeable than myself) telekinesis is not real. If any of you find my opinion offencive I offer no apology, I am entitled to it. However, if any of you are confident in your own powers of telekinesis please feel free to go and claim the million dollar reward that is rightfully yours for simply demonstrating your "power" under controlled scientific conditions. Anyone...........

<a href="http://psipog.net/art-beware-pseudo-skepticism.html" target="_blank">http://psipog.net/art-beware-pseudo-skepticism.html</a>
Not sure if thats the challenge you are referring to.
Secondly, if your at work, chances are you had a warm object next to you. If you honestly believe that "science" makes a piece of paper move at high speeds, please, move my sofa with "science" o_O
Thanks in advance. >_>

(I wonder if this is like.. My second post. ._.)

OOH! I posted 14 times? Im proud of myself.
joelp617
oo well i think my bigest trouble is trying to feel and visualize the energy. How do I visualize it and how do I feel it? Today at work I placed my palms like i was doing a prayer buh i seperated them by half an inch. Then I tried to make a psi ball which didnt work. But i did feel something. After holding them like dat in a while i tried touching them togetha and i feel something in the middle and it felt like it wouldnt let them touch. any ideas on what it is?
Jake13
Feeling it comes from visualizing it. When making a psi-ball, I just visualize a pulsating blue-white orb.
If you felt something. Good job! D:
joelp617
i cant visualiz it!!!!i try to visualize it buh i only feel something in between my hands
Jake13
Right now, imagine a coffee mug in front of you. Try to be as detailed as possible. Does it have a slogan? Is it round? Any drink inside? And so on.
joelp617
yea i tried and no help. Also i tried doing it at work today and i felt a strong will power in my mind but nothing.
Magjick
Wow, I've been wondering how to do this. Thanx for the help!
Jake13
If your talking to me, which would be weird. Your welcome. D:
Sporkling
QUOTE (joelp617 @ Nov 25 2007, 05:10 PM) *
yea i tried and no help. Also i tried doing it at work today and i felt a strong will power in my mind but nothing.

just keep trying yes.gif
Jake13
I suggest some visualization exercises, for instance, whenever you look out a window imagine a tree exploding, or something of the sort. Mighty fun. >_>
Sporkling
oh so the psi wheel is fake. How about people who can move coins across a table?
jay123
QUOTE (cryingwoe @ Dec 19 2007, 02:30 PM) *
oh so the psi wheel is fake. How about people who can move coins across a table?


Think about what you just said, if people have to fake moving thin paper on a pin with there mind. what on earth makes you think the people moving metal coins on tables isn't fake?

I mean, say if i was to develop some telekenisis right now. do you honestly think i'd sit here like a lemon and put a few videos on youtube? No. Id go to the media and let the world know.

I'm sorry if i upset anyone one, but I blame SOME influential anime.
Sporkling
why would you want to let anyone know anyway
dannyboyjones
QUOTE (cryingwoe @ Dec 19 2007, 02:30 PM) *
oh so the psi wheel is fake. How about people who can move coins across a table?


Show me proof and I'll believe.
purpletouch
QUOTE (dannyboyjones @ Dec 20 2007, 05:30 PM) *
Show me proof and I'll believe.


my comment with the website in big bold letters he might have skepticism but if it really does work then it sure rule out his skepticism
dannyboyjones
Hmmm.. I can't even trust video 'proof' anymore. I have to see it right before my eyes.
nirvanic
we are not pretending, we are doing, we have nothing to prove, believe it or not.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (nirvanic demon @ Dec 22 2007, 12:03 PM) *
we are not pretending, we are doing, we have nothing to prove, believe it or not.

Oh. You have something to prove. You just can't do it. Don't believe it. Merry xmas.
nirvanic
well, i'm not christian, but still, merry christmas to all of you santa.gif
signal7
QUOTE (Anakim @ Aug 10 2004, 01:17 PM) *
Whats up everyone! After reading some of the posts here, I've noticed that there are a lot of people trying to learn TK. Because of this fact I've decided to start a thread were people can post there progress and ask questions of those more experienced in telekenisis. Unfortunately I myself am not one of these more experienced people. I am just a rooke like the rest of you but I welcome everyone from inquireing minds to expert telekinetics to the group of sceptic sceptics or what ever you call yourselves (I forget the name) wink2.gif . This thread has one perpose, to help those that want the help. This is not a thread to prove anything, debate anything or to argue about anything. If you are here for anyone of those things post all you want..... each one will be ignored. We have argued over this subject already, anymore arguing is just redundant, STUPID and POINTLESS. If arguing does breakout Mod's FEEL FREE TO CLOSE THE THREAD. Other than that post away. I cant wait to see how far along everyone is. Later

Anakim...


Honest to whatever deity you contact: I moved a pen once. About a freely floating piece of paper. When told to: 'Grasp that pen!...', I did so, and the ink flowed in perfect, readable fashion.

This is documented by a many a Swami. As, this set would love the loss of the occupation of the time formalizing their employment. Where, in fact, there presence must be mandated for formal claim of insurance matters.

This is of no joking matter. I seriously moved a pen in "free" space. And, it's well documented. Only, though, due to lazy, fat people who wish of the ability...
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (signal7 @ Dec 22 2007, 01:25 PM) *
Honest to whatever deity you contact: I moved a pen once. About a freely floating piece of paper. When told to: 'Grasp that pen!...', I did so, and the ink flowed in perfect, readable fashion.

This is documented by a many a Swami. As, this set would love the loss of the occupation of the time formalizing their employment. Where, in fact, there presence must be mandated for formal claim of insurance matters.

This is of no joking matter. I seriously moved a pen in "free" space. And, it's well documented. Only, though, due to lazy, fat people who wish of the ability...

huh.gif no.gif
Whatever. Whats your documentation? A comic.
signal7
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Dec 22 2007, 02:32 PM) *
huh.gif no.gif
Whatever. Whats your documentation? A comic.


Yeah, it's called Batman Subsists/& lives to tell about it. If you don't already know, you need not...

It is classified, Unto U...

Seriously, though. You must like comics. Could have said I was "INSANE", or is it??? U already have an inclination...?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (signal7 @ Dec 22 2007, 02:54 PM) *
Yeah, it's called Batman Subsists/& lives to tell about it. If you don't already know, you need not...

It is classified, Unto U...

Seriously, though. You must like comics. Could have said I was "INSANE", or is it??? U already have an inclination...?

Your posts don't really make sense. Sorry. w00t.gif
signal7
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Dec 22 2007, 04:09 PM) *
Your posts don't really make sense. Sorry. w00t.gif


Yeah, and I chide one line comments from those that try and dictate their own version of reality. As I do myself, for me.
Statements that seem to indicate that one is using little brain capacity in order to draw a contradiction often do not warrant much attention from me.

Your LUCKY!
jay123
"why do would you want to show anyone anyway?"


Well the psi kids have an easy time telling us about it, but when it comes to showing us they dont have anything to prove rolleyes.gif

I've said this before, and i feel im gunna say it again. telekenisis is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is FANTASY.
Sporkling
well maybe there are people who don't talk about this and they have it and there are people who talk and they don't have or don't even really believe in it. there are many people on this world. Besides have you ever tried all this before?
Moro
This topic alone is just ridiculous. (Are you trying to learn telekinesis?) Trying to learn something that is from speculation and has no facts,
only other peoples beliefs on how you should try and learn telekinesis, (For which is speculation.) Is just mind boggling.

It must be a new generation thing, where all these kids are wanting to have an extraordinary ability.
Sporkling
arrr well vanquish it christmas do you really want to fight on this special day? oo i can't wait.
Moro
QUOTE (cryingwoe @ Dec 23 2007, 01:20 PM) *
arrr well vanquish it christmas do you really want to fight on this special day? oo i can't wait.

Tom adds: no.gif
Triad
QUOTE
In December 1989 Dean Radin of Princeton's Psychology Department and Roger Nelson of the PEAR lab published a paper on the meta-analysis of micro-PK experiments not, as might be expected, in a parapsychology journal but in the respected physics journal Foundations of Physics. Their paper was entitled, 'Evidence for consciousness-related anomalies in random physical systems.' In their analysis, Radin and Nelson tracked down 152 reports describing 597 experimental studies and 235 control studies by 68 different investigators involving the influence of consciousness on microelectronic systems.

Radin and Nelson's studies showed that the aggregate of all these trials dramatically provided powerful evidence for micro-PK. For they found that the odds against the overall result being the result of chance was 1 in 10 to the power of 35.

To understand how unlikely it is that this result was obtained by chance, it is like finding a lottery ticket in the street, finding that it is the winning ticket and you have won first prize of millions -- and then continuing to find the winning lottery in the street every week for a thousand years.

That such findings continue to be dismissed shows more clearly than anything could that the "skeptics" are not evaluating the data with extra care -- they are in denial.


Here is where the whole denial thing (of course in respect to skeptics) comes into play. You see the probability is so high that in relation to macro Pk, while it may in fact be rare for an individual to have such ability it cannot be ruled out as a valid capacity within the context of a population. For the sake of argument and taking into consideration what is in fact, an extremely conservative amount of 1 in 100 billion, would in fact be capable of performing acts clearly definitive as Macro-Pk.

Lets me clear here, it’s a matter of physics and fundamentally a math question who, given the above amount (1 in 10 to the power of 35), leaves no question. Again 1 in 100 billion is the most conservative conclusion one can reach and that pretty much covers earths population for the last 2000 years.

thumbsup.gif Merry Christmas everyone.....

For the record, in relation to the above quote the link can be found at top and with respect to the two links below yes.gif

Any thoughts?? innocent.gif
Sporkling
and this be more simple?
inkblot
EVERY experiment that "proved" the existance of PK was flawed. How is this one any different? What were the methods used in it?
Sporkling
do you really want to know?
inkblot
QUOTE (cryingwoe @ Dec 24 2007, 10:31 AM) *
do you really want to know?

Yes.
Sporkling
well there was one i remember the wind did it and the rest errr heat and the rest were for real
Triad
QUOTE
EVERY experiment that "proved" the existance of PK was flawed. How is this one any different? What were the methods used in it?


inkblot you can claim anything you want,but please explain the basis of you comment or otherise get yourself something else to do....... you sound like an blink.gif Think about it........


Any thoughts??
Triad
Clearly the methodology is respect to the experiment has been made clear beyond any shadow of doubt. The only real problem that exists is in relation to "skep-tics" is, there clearly false philosophical argument. Here is something to consider, 1 in 100 billion is extremely conservative but taking it to a liberal standpoint 1 in 100 million is not unrealistic.


Any thoughts??

PS: Happy New Year thumbsup.gif
Moro
QUOTE (Triad @ Dec 31 2007, 11:18 PM) *
Clearly the methodology is respect to the experiment has been made clear beyond any shadow of doubt. The only real problem that exists is in relation to "skep-tics" is, there clearly false philosophical argument. Here is something to consider, 1 in 100 billion is extremely conservative but taking it to a liberal standpoint 1 in 100 million is not unrealistic.


Any thoughts??

PS: Happy New Year thumbsup.gif

So, are you saying that, 1 in 100 million may have an ability? If so, it may not be unrealistic! But, is it really worth it considering
the really low variable, (1/100 Million!) that people actually have an ability.


Regards,
Tom
Sporkling
maybe but its worth thinking about
Moro
QUOTE (Electrokinesis is me @ Jan 2 2008, 09:23 AM) *
maybe but its worth thinking about

Sure, we can talk about it until the world ends. But, it will never change my views on it.

That is unless you can show me a substantial amount of proof that will sway my views on it.


Regards,
Tom
Sporkling
looks like we all can't we swayed but its better this way tongue.gif
Moro
QUOTE (Electrokinesis is me @ Jan 2 2008, 10:15 AM) *
looks like we all can't we swayed but its better this way tongue.gif

Belief and facts! That is the residing brick wall between believers and skeptics.


Regards,
Tom
Sporkling
it always is
Moro
QUOTE (Electrokinesis is me @ Jan 2 2008, 10:52 AM) *
it always is

So, tell me which is better!

1. A belief with no basis of facts or proof.

2. A fact that shows a belief with no basis of facts.


Regards,
Tom
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