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Universal Absurdity
I was searching 'cure for cancer' in google, my mother has bone cancer and has been going through treatment for almost 4 years now. I came across a distrubing article that prompted me to find out more about apricot seeds. ( Link ).

I found a page called "The Ultimate Cancer Conspiracy" Here are the first few paragraphs:

"During 1950 after many years of research, a dedicated biochemist by the name of Dr. Ernst T. Krebs, Jr., isolated a new vitamin that he numbered B17 and called 'Laetrile'. As the years rolled by, thousands became convinced that Krebs had finally found the complete control for all cancers, a conviction that even more people share today. Back in 1950 Ernst Krebs could have had little idea of the hornet's nest he was about to stir up. The pharmaceutical multinationals, unable to patent or claim exclusive rights to the vitamin, launched a propaganda attack of unprecedented viciousness against B17, despite the fact that hard proof of its efficiency in controlling all forms of cancer surrounds us in overwhelming abundance.

In his brilliantly researched 1974 book "World Without Cancer", researcher and author G. Edward Griffin explains the trophoblastic theory of cancer proposed by Professor John Beard of Edinburgh University, which states that certain pre-embryonic cells in pregnancy differ in no discernible way from highly-malignant cancer cells. Edward Griffin continues:

"The trophoblast in pregnancy indeed does exhibit all the classical characteristics of cancer. It spreads and multiplies rapidly as it eats its way into the uterus wall preparing a place where the embryo can attach itself for maternal protection and nourishment."

The trophoblast is formed in a chain reaction by another cell that Griffin simplifies down to the 'total life' cell, which has the total capacity to evolve into any organ or tissue, or a complete embryo. When the total life cell is triggered into producing trophoblast by contact with the hormone estrogen, present in both males and females, one of two different things happens. In the case of pregnancy the result is conventional development of a placenta and umbilical cord. If the trophoblast is triggered as part of a healing process however, the result is cancer or, as Edward Griffin cautions: "To be more accurate, we should say it is cancer if the healing process is not terminated upon completion of its task."

Stunning proof of this claim is readily available. All trophoblast cells produce a unique hormone called the chorionic gonadotrophic (CGH) which is easily detected in urine. Thus if a person is either pregnant or has cancer, a simple CGH pregnancy test should confirm either or both. It does, with an accuracy of better than 92% in all cases. If the urine sample shows positive it means either normal pregnancy or abnormal malignant cancer. Griffin notes: "If the patient is a woman, she either is pregnant or has cancer. If he is a man, cancer can be the only cause." So why all of the expensive, dangerous biopsies carried to 'detect' cancerous growths? One can only assume that medicare pays doctors a larger fee for biopsies than pregnancy tests.

So how is it that any of us gets cancer in the first place. Is it exposure to cigarette smoking, intense sunlight or perhaps the effect of toxic food additives? Dr. Krebs thinks not. All of the hard iochemical evidence points to the fact that cancer is a simple deficiency disease of vitamin B17, long ago removed from our highly refined, western diets. Krebs postulates that the so-called 'carcinogens' are merely stress triggers that finally expose the B17 deficiency with devastating effect.

The proof Krebs has presented over the years to support his claim is impressive. Centuries ago we used to eat millet bread, rich in B17, but now we chew our way through wheat which has none at all. For generations our grandmothers used to carefully crush the seeds of plums, green grapes, cherries, apples, apricots and other members of the botanical family Rosaceae, and diligently mix them with their home made jams and preserves. Grandma probably didn't know why she was doing it, but the seeds of all these fruits are the most potent source of B17 in the world. In the tropics, large quantities of B17 are found in cassava, also known as tapioca. When did you last eat some?

Independent research has also proved that a Himalayan tribe known as the 'Hunza' never contract cancer of any kind so long as they stick to their native diet which is exceptionally high in both apricots and millet. However, once exposed to western diets they become as vulnerable as the rest of us.

The implications of these findings are staggering of course. If we managed to control Scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) centuries ago, how is it we cannot do the same for cancer today? The fact of the matter is that we could if our respective governments would allow it. Unfortunately most governments have buckled under the pressure exerted by the pharmaceutical multinationals, the American Food & Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association. All three have mounted highly successful 'scare' campaigns based on the fact that vitamin B17 contains quantities of 'deadly' cyanide; conveniently forgetting that vitamin B12 also contains significant quantities of cyanide, and has long been available in health food shops world-wide.

Dr. Kreb's B17 Laetrile was derived from apricot seeds and then synthesized into crystalline form using his own unique process. Suddenly, the American FDA bombarded the media with a story about an unfortunate couple who had poisoned themselves by eating raw apricot seeds in San Francisco. The story made headline news across the U.S.A. although several suspicious journalists never managed to establish the identity of the unfortunate couple, despite many determined attempts. But the multinational pharmaceutical/FDA boot had been put in with a vengeance. From that point onwards eating apricot seeds or B17 Laetrile became synonymous with committing suicide.

Back in the fifties, Dr. Ernst Krebs proved beyond doubt that B17 was completely harmless to humans in the most convincing way possible. After testing the vitamin on animals, he filled a large hypodermic with a mega-dose which he then injected into his own arm! Drastic perhaps, but the adventurous Dr. Krebs is still alive and well today.

The vitamin is harmless to healthy tissue for a very simple reason: Each molecule of B17 contains one unit of cyanide, one unit of benzaldehyde and two of glucose (sugar) tightly locked together. In order for the cyanide to become dangerous it is first necessary to 'unlock' the molecule to release it, a trick that can only be performed by an enzyme called beta-glucosidase. This enzyme is present all over the body in minute quantities, but in huge quantities (up to 100 times as high) at cancerous tumour sites.

Thus the cyanide is released only at the cancer site with drastic results, which become utterly devastating to the cancer cells because the benzaldehyde unit also unlocks at the same time. Benzaldehyde is a deadly poison in its own right, which then acts synergistically with the cyanide to produce a poison 100 times more deadly than either in isolation. The combined effect on the cancer cells is best left to the imagination. "

Needless to say i'm looking up vitamin B-17 sources. Its really disturbing that the government (US) is so against this natural cure for cancer. It makes me wonder, (since they apparently know that B-17 is a cure) What all the money goes to that is supposed to be for cancer research.
Nate
Hmm have other contries openly objected to it also or is it only the US?
Dowdy
They have this guy in Australia that claim he can cure cancer. He's been doing it for 25+ years now. It works on radio waves.




It was on a show called "A Current Affair". For the aussie out there, he is going to be on the show again tonight testing his machine on a cancer sufferer
Permakid
UA, this is interesting stuff. I'd like to read more and check out your sources. Would you mind posting a link?
Universal Absurdity
"The Ultimate Cancer Conspiracy" - Its a link in the first message wink2.gif

All i did was type in "apricot cancer conspiracy" in google. There are alot of pages. I chose to post this one because it had the history of the discovery.

Nate, as far as i know, apricot seeds are readily available in canada and mexico for cancer treatment. I'm not sure about overseas. It would surprise me if any other country had banned apricot seeds.
matthewgoad
Yeah I am really interested in reading the rest of that article too. You really got my attention with this one. Nice Job, my friend.
Stellar
Appricot seeds are also poisonous and can cause some brain damage or something mental to happen. I doubt that something like this would stay under wraps this long.
Permakid
Silly me! Don't know how I missed the link in the first message. wacko.gif I'm ususally quick to notice when some thoughtless poster has failed to read an entire post. laugh.gif Anyway, thanks for patiently leading me to the answer. wink2.gif

And on a different note, sorry to hear about your mother's struggle with cancer. I hope that with strength, determination, and the love of those around her she can beat it. Good luck, too, in your search for a cure in alternative medicine. I truly believe that mother nature holds the key to eradicating most, if not all, diseases. I wish you both all the best!
hunterkiller2001
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Appricot seeds are also poisonous and can cause some brain damage or something mental to happen.


Very false. I remember the whole "Don't eat apricot seeds, one will kill you" crap my mother constantly ran me through.

Yes, Apricot seeds contain trace amounts of cyanide. But take it from someone who ate 3 on a dare, it takes a lot more then 3 to kill you... Or even to effect you.

And from what I've researched on the net, not a single person has died from eatting apricot seeds.

related to the whole "cancer cure consipacy", it wouldn't surpise me in the least if the american government has it figured out already. they're in a position to make billions a year vanish into "cancer research".
MichaelS
QUOTE (UniversalAbsurdity @ Aug 15 2004, 09:30 PM)
Needless to say i'm looking up vitamin B-17 sources. Its really disturbing that the government (US) is so against this natural cure for cancer. It makes me wonder, (since they apparently know that B-17 is a cure) What all the money goes to that is supposed to be for cancer research.

If they were to support the "naturalistic" cures such as this, do you know how much money would be lost in the Pharmacutical Industry? Billions of tax revenue from these businesses. That could very well be one reason for the lack of support.

As for the money that goes to "cancer research", like any non-profit operation, it goes to pay the researchers, administrators, supply contractors, etc BEFORE actually being doled out as grants, etc... much like the money meant for the starving overseas gets filtered before reaching them.

I'm sorry to hear about your Mom by the way. Cancer is a horrible way to go... my own Mom had Cervix Cancer when I was 13. Took four years for her to pass on. I'm now 32, and I still miss her deeply. My best wishes are with you and her in this time. May the Fates bless you with strength, and courage.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
UA I am sorry to hear about your Mom. I wish her all the best & my prayers are with her.
Universal Absurdity
Thanks Stewey and Dot, my mom is a strong woman, i know she'll pull through.

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If they were to support the "naturalistic" cures such as this, do you know how much money would be lost in the Pharmacutical Industry?


Its sad that medicine has become a business, instead of actually a service that helps people. Worse than that is the government making it illegal APRICOT SEEDS!!! ILLEGAL??!? thats just too much, they went too far with that one.

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Yes, Apricot seeds contain trace amounts of cyanide. But take it from someone who ate 3 on a dare, it takes a lot more then 3 to kill you... Or even to effect you.

From what ive read it takes 15-20 seeds a day to effectively treat cancer. Still not enough cyanide to kill. Speaking of killing, i wonder how much radiation it takes to kill a person, compared to the cyanide found in vitamin B-17?

its a sad, sad world we live in. i'd burn all the money in the US if it would make them realize how little its really worth compared to curing a diseasse, and saving lives.
buggyelfmaiden
It doesn't take much radiation to kill a person. That's another reason I'll stick to herbal remedies. (That and I can mix them with my juice and I don't have to take pills)

But then it's hard to find good tinctures too.

Damn medical companies.
Stellar
All I know is that somewhere I've heard that appricot seeds can kill if you take them en mass, but even if you dont, they can do something to your brain.

hunterkiller2001
Acute radiation sickness occurs after prolonged exposure to levels as low as 70 rads. This must be penetrating radiation (Gamma and Xrays) and they must come in contact with internal organs. (So, controlled radiation used in medical purposes are typically safe.)


More radiation Tidbits, just for fun (these are attributed to Nukes and Fallout)

hematopoietic syndrome (bone marrow syndrome) can occur after brief exposure to radiation ranging from 70-1000 rads. Chances of survival drop greatly with increased dosage and/or exposure.

Gastrointestinal syndrome occurs with immediate Exposure to radiation from 1000-10,000 rads. Survival is highly unlikely, and death occurs within 2 weeks.


Central Nervous System syndrome occurs with doses greater then 5,000 rads.
Death occurs within 3 days. The circulatory system stops functioning, and your central nervous system swells (brain and spine).

This information can be found at the main CDC website, and the PDF file also includes other symptoms, and treatment for radiation sickness

Here


tigger
QUOTE (Dowdy @ Aug 16 2004, 08:21 AM)
They have this guy in Australia that claim he can cure cancer. He's been doing it for 25+ years now. It works on radio waves.




It was on a show called "A Current Affair". For the aussie out there, he is going to be on the show again tonight testing his machine on a cancer sufferer

yea, i caught a brief snippet of that one, he's had the knowledge of how to cure cancer for some time (which he did on himself) but certain 'authorative figures' didnt like what he was doing..... its a sad state where someone has proven that they can beat this horrible disease, and the govt tries to shut them down.. makes you wonder just what the hell they are thinking

ua, sorry to hear about your mum, i hope everything goes well with her and her tx too... just go buy an apricot tree, that'll stuff the govt good and proper *shakes fist*
the master theologian
The only cure for cancer is keeping yourself from harmful products,
and instead, you eat what is natural and intended for you to eat!
EAT MORE FRUIT AND VEGETABLES NOW!!!!!

Now, if you were exposed to radiation, then I don't know whats
the cure for that. wacko.gif
MichaelS
QUOTE (UniversalAbsurdity @ Aug 16 2004, 06:13 PM)


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If they were to support the "naturalistic" cures such as this, do you know how much money would be lost in the Pharmacutical Industry?


Its sad that medicine has become a business, instead of actually a service that helps people. Worse than that is the government making it illegal APRICOT SEEDS!!! ILLEGAL??!? thats just too much, they went too far with that one.


It's very sad. A friend of mine needed medication for a condition he suffered, the only place he could get it was in Canada- and if he came to Canada, got the medication, and went back to the US, he would've been committing a criminal offence.

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its a sad, sad world we live in. i'd burn all the money in the US if it would make them realize how little its really worth compared to curing a diseasse, and saving lives.


It's not the money that's at the root, it's the love of it- and other possessions. The moment society started moving away from bartering, "I'll give you three goats- which you need, for those three pigs which I need.", and towards a system of currency- and the system of supply and demand that evolved, problems like this were inevitable. sad.gif
Area69
http://www.navi.net/~rsc/krebs3.htm

I have noticed that newspapers are carrying wire dispatches reporting the studies of Professor Roger Williams of the University of Texas. He is quoted on the "toxicity" of commercial white bread as sold in the United States. You will recall that Doctor Williams is the discoverer of vitamin B-1 or thiamine; and the first to synthesize it. Doctor Williams, in effect, showed that commercial white bread as sold in the United States is about 70 times more toxic than vitamin B-17. Doctor Williams fed four strains of white rats (noted for their vigor), nothing but commercial American white bread for three months. Seventy-five per cent of all the experimental animals so fed died of malnutrition before the experiment was complete. Those fed on whole wheat all survived. The commercial white bread was enriched by law with some crystalline vitamins, but not in a sufficient quantity and variety to prevent these rats being killed by the bread. So how about vitamin B-17 toxicity studies? White rats fed 70 times the normal human dose of vitamin B-17 (nitriloside) used in the palliation of human cancer were completely normal and healthy after 90 days. None of them died. There were some "physiological side reactions" to vitamin B-17--greater weight and appetite. After all they were receiving nourishment; a vitamin, not a vitamin-deficient ration or a drug.

Area69
By the way, so much for your conspiracy theories involving drug companies, B17 (Laetrile) is available all over the net:

http://cancermetabolic.com/METABOLIC.html

http://www.metabolicproductssupply.com/itmidx1.htm

http://www.cancermetabolic.com/productcatalog

Area69
Also, this debunks the whole thing, unless you think this is part of "the conspiracy":

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelate...r/laetrile.html
Mel
If cancer were allowed to be cured for all mankind, would it not result in the collapse of the world's economy? How many billions of dollars are spent and how many people are employed, world-wide as a direct result of cancer? Always been a bit of a burning thought for me.
bloodmoon
UniversalAbsurdity
i wish your mother all the best of luck, my father had prostate and colon cancer and my aunt had colon and is about to go into asurgery for uterine cancer(sorry for bad spelling)
i woulndnt be supprised in the least if the government is keeping natural cures out of the works, there are thousands dead right now cause bush loves his oil and money.
Angelofmercy
UA, I would take this with a grain of salt. I skimmed through and although it seems rather scientific, some of their facts are just slightly misleading, especially the stuff about the stem cells.

Also, I don't know about the similar Cancer/pregnancy hormone. that doesn't add up to me. Because Human beings get cancers all the time. I am 23 years old and I have probably had cancer at least a dozen times already. The body fights it off 90% of the time...I don't know if this makes sense, i will have to think about this more, but i don't believe this article 100%,

but if you think the apricot seeds will help your mom...consult your doctor and go for it! Anything is better than nothing!
Universal Absurdity
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Also, this debunks the whole thing, unless you think this is part of "the conspiracy"
Although I do understand the origins of B-17, and have read through the page linked, I believe the results and tests that were mentioned, were selectively chosen for mis information. Cancer is a serious illness, Depending on how long you have had it, or how serious it is, b-17 may not help (as in keep you alive) . Not because it doesnt work, but because of the damage that the cancer has already caused. I dont know how you found that page, i did a google search on Dr. Krebs, B-17, and laetrile, and found only good things written about B-17, sources on where to get it, recovery stories, and why the government banned it.

bloodmoon, thank you for your kind words, i wish your aunt luck

Angelofmercy, both my mother and i have researched b-17, she thinks its better than the chemo that she is curently going through. She's not giving up without a fight, she's taking b-17 and doing what can be done with the doctors. original.gif



sleepygrizz
if everyone wants to gripe about the apricot seeds why not just eat tapioca??...the article said that large amouts are found in cassava(tapioca) and you see people in latin america eating it all the time and they aren't dying or getting sick from eating it...they also make a beer like drink out of it
bloodmoon
if i remember right the tapioca plant has pretty hight levels of cyinide(pardon bad spelling) as well, they boil the root 2 or 3 times before getting the balls or tapioca.
Venomshocker
I know a guy who had cancer who took these apricot seeds, and he recently was tested and te cancer was gone!!! Seemed that it worked for him.

I still believe that Bioresonance therapy is much more succesful at curing ailments, because it gets at the root causes, of cancer in the first place. original.gif
lakato
hi,

I just found this site which was one of the few that actually said good things about apricot seeds - too many - "It's poison stay away!" sites out there!
My mum recently had a strange form of cancer growing behind her ear..She was initially told it was a cyst but when she went in to have it removed (under local anaesthetic!!!) it was a lot bigger than they thought originally. The results came back saying it was cancer. My mum has always been interested in alternative medicine. When she heard the type of treatment they had planned for her - an operation which would leave her scarred and paralysed down one side of her face for a minimum of 6 weeks and possibly for life, followed by an intense course of radiotherapy which she had heard nightmare stories about - she decided to try something different. She read that the preventative treatment of cancer is 15-20 apricot seeds a day.. if you have cancer - the treatment is 35-40seeds. My mum was taking 40 seeds a day for about 4 months. She had an mri in april that showed that the rest of the cancer (the bits that hadn't been removed by the initial "cyst" operation) were gone. The doctors decided to give her a pet scan to make sure as they were afraid that the mri might not have shown up the awkward area behing the ear clear enough. She had that in May and not a single cancer cell was found in the affected area nor in the rest of her body - hurray! It was a risk to take - refusing conventional treatments in favour of something that has so much controversy surrounding it - but it paid off - My mum was able to stand beside me on my wedding day in june without scars and facial paralysis. It's scary to think that this is the first treatment offered to people. If my mum hadn't protested and done her own research she would not have been offered the scans and she would have been scarred for life!
I'm sorry your mum has cancer - it's a very scary thing to hear about someone you love. I hope this strengthens your belief in the apricot seeds..needless to say my whole family are now taking the preventative dose 15-20 a day and none of us are feeling sick or dying of cyanide poisoning!!
Babs
I have bought apricot kernels at my local health food store. They are for the treatment of cancer. Check your local health food store. The gal that owns the store told me that people are using this food for cancer and she gave me the number of the company she buys it from. That company, she said, could tell me more about the product and it's uses.

UniversalAbsurdity, I hope your mom is doing well. Taking from the natural and the doctors is the best way to go. thumbsup.gif
vimjams
Stellar is absolutely correct. Apricot kernels contain cyanide and that really does do nasty things to your brain...It can also kill you. I think it is that (cyanide) which actually destroys the cancer cells. You will need to eat quite a lot of kernels before this toxin has an adverse effects though, much more than you could possibly or comfortably eat before being sick as a dog.
The same cancer killing properties (B17)are also found in peach and plum kernels: In apple seeds and strawberries.
B17 is banned in the UK...That's a fact.
There are quite a lot of web sites discussing this subject and there are a large number of clinics offering treatment and advice...But it'll cost you lots of dosh. I also think you'll be hard pressed to find any Affidavits from cured patients. If you do find any...let me know.


Dr Dolittle aka (Vimjams)
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Braveandcrazy
You can buy vitamin B17 now....

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8...tamin+b17&meta=

Also sorry about your mother. Look into Orthomolecular Cancer Therapy.

There is a group in Ontario that deals with alternative therapy also. CCRG I think.
vimjams
I'm at a loss as to why it has been so controversial to get this treatment...If it works (and I have my doubts) Surely in the UK; if this treatment was available on the NHS then a great deal of money could be saved and channelled to far greater usage.

Vimjams
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Babs
I'd like to add another link to balance out. This is a quackery watch, but I have to say that they have been wrong on occasion too.

here
crystal sage
http://www.plim.org/AltCancer.html

"Do a few know more than the masses?

Unfortunately, the situation of keeping secrets within a select group for profit and control, and not empowering the people has not changed today. The Apostle John called the system Mystery Babylon and claimed that they were whores and filthy merchants (Rev. 17:1-3, 18th chapter). Although medical technology is becoming more advanced and researchers and the government are telling the public that they are closer daily to winning the war on cancer, deaths by cancer, heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, etc., are increasing annually.



thumbsup.gif The Two-time Novel Prize winner physicist Linus Paul answered this by stating the following. “Everyone should know the war on cancer is largely a fraud.” p. 115, Matrix III, Vol. Two Rather than share the natural treatments outlined in this article with people who are ill, the medical elite has been led by greed instead of the public welfare. thumbsup.gif

Also when we begin to understand the New World Order agenda, population control is the only conclusion one can draw as to the reason why people are sick when remedies exist that will cure them. The prophet Jeremiah wrote, “Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? Why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?” Jer 8:22. The people in power of the medical industry under the present system will fight to the death rather than relinquish their control and profit to cheap, non-invasive treatments that the public can used themselves. "
crystal sage
"It is interesting to note that a cancer therapy, Laetrile, which has been discredited and banned by government authorities, is described as an extract from the apricot kernel, and is for the most part hydrocyanic acid. It has been hypothesized by the discoverer that this acid is destroyed in the body by normal cellular oxidative metabolism, but cancer cells, functioning without oxidative mechanisms, are unable to destroy the acid; thus they absorb it and are destroyed themselves"

http://www.curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=125&i=8
ex infernis
Laetrile is another name for Amygdalin, a toxic cyanide compound found in drupes such as apricots, cherries and i believe apples
louie
Ua if your mum decides to try the apricot seeds as a cure, could you keep us informed as to her progress as this topic is highly intresting, if its too painful for you i would understand totally.
louie
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Aug 16 2004, 01:21 AM) [snapback]235276[/snapback]
They have this guy in Australia that claim he can cure cancer. He's been doing it for 25+ years now. It works on radio waves.
It was on a show called "A Current Affair". For the aussie out there, he is going to be on the show again tonight testing his machine on a cancer sufferer


I just watched a fantastic video about laetril and vitamin B17

watch it here:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=431...+without+cancer

and if you wonder why such things are suppressed, check out the
Georgia Guidestones, known as 'America's Stonehenge':

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-79...gia+guidestones

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=571

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The Rosicrucian and Masonic movement have launched a massive population-control
program, which entails essentially destroying humanity by any means by which they
can achieve it.
Sunofone
another source for the supplement is bitter almonds
BZRK
WOW this is a very interesting topic, in which i can very much relate to.

A friend of mine died of Cancer back in my school days, it was a devastating moment at a very young age.

My mother had a scare with cancer in which they removed at its early stage of development. Now in the recent weeks my uncles best friends son aged 7 has Cancer in the bone and is dieing.

Ive always wondered with all the "brains" and the technology in the world we can not even cure Cancer, and my question was why?

I know the cure for cancer is out there but the Government is probably supressing that information due to major kick backs they get through multinational pharmaceutical companies. More cancer patients = more profit, the need for treatment and medication. Its a sad world we live in.

Where does the Government Conspiracy stop?

It just never ends.....

Cheers

BZRK
JongFu
Sorry to hear about your mom. I went through that when I was in my early teens. My mom had breast cancer and we tried everything western medicine had to offer to no avail. She died after battling cancer for 6 years. But what's most frustrating is I'm convinced she didn't die from cancer as the doctors called it. She died from the radiation. In in effort to kill the cancer they fried and ultimatly destroid my mom's lungs. I wish we knew at the time about other alternative treatments. Good luck and I hope the seeds work. Its got to be much better than chemo and radiation.
crystal sage
QUOTE(BZRK @ Jan 4 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]1485362[/snapback]
WOW this is a very interesting topic, in which i can very much relate to.

A friend of mine died of Cancer back in my school days, it was a devastating moment at a very young age.

My mother had a scare with cancer in which they removed at its early stage of development. Now in the recent weeks my uncles best friends son aged 7 has Cancer in the bone and is dieing.

Ive always wondered with all the "brains" and the technology in the world we can not even cure Cancer, and my question was why?

I know the cure for cancer is out there but the Government is probably supressing that information due to major kick backs they get through multinational pharmaceutical companies. More cancer patients = more profit, the need for treatment and medication. Its a sad world we live in.

Where does the Government Conspiracy stop?

It just never ends.....

Cheers

BZRK

crystal sage
QUOTE(BZRK @ Jan 4 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]1485362[/snapback]
WOW this is a very interesting topic, in which i can very much relate to.

t. Now in the recent weeks my uncles best friends son aged 7 has Cancer in the bone and is dieing.

Ive always wondered with all the "brains" and the technology in the world we can not even cure Cancer, and my question was why?

I know the cure for cancer is out there but the Government is probably supressing that information due to major kick backs they get through multinational pharmaceutical companies. More cancer patients = more profit, the need for treatment and medication. Its a sad world we live in.

Where does the Government Conspiracy stop?

It just never ends.....

Cheers

BZRK



My Dad died of cancer and so did a few friends... Once I learnt how to use the computer ( about 18 months ago ... blush.gif better late than never!! ) it spured me on to looking around for possible cures.... this is what I've seen so far.....


http://cafe.noeticnetworks.org/cgi-bin/dcf...ewmode=threaded
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Jan 3 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]1484968[/snapback]
another source for the supplement is bitter almonds



Have you watched the videos I posted in this thread? I am surprised that there
has been no reaction/feedback to my post.

crystal sage
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Jan 8 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]1490993[/snapback]
Have you watched the videos I posted in this thread? I am surprised that there
has been no reaction/feedback to my post.

With the monuments... maybe they left off a couple of 00's in the numbers????

hmm.gif ..seen all of this ???..What's your gut feeling???

...and Eugenics...'Rockefeller joined Prescott Bush and the British Royal Family in sponsoring the eugenics initiatives that gave rise to Hitler’s racial hygiene programs. ...'

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat....;o=&fpart=1


. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=1071

http://www.attackonamerica.net/riseofthefourthreich.htm
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Jan 9 2007, 05:32 PM) [snapback]1494506[/snapback]
With the monuments... maybe they left off a couple of 00's in the numbers????

hmm.gif ..seen all of this ???..What's your gut feeling???

...and Eugenics...'Rockefeller joined Prescott Bush and the British Royal Family in sponsoring the eugenics initiatives that gave rise to Hitler’s racial hygiene programs. ...'

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat....;o=&fpart=1
. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=1071

http://www.attackonamerica.net/riseofthefourthreich.htm


Every word of the above is absolutely true. We are heading into a final race for survival, with the elite determined to meet their goal of
a global population of 500 million. What set this in motion, imo, was the complete mapping of the human genome in 2001.
This was the final piece of the puzzle, which has opened the door to life extension technologies beyond humanity's wildest dreams, but
also unleashed ruthless 'population control' measures which will wipe out billions of people in the very near future.


Paranoid Android
Krebs (the doctor/scientist who "discovered" B17) has never been proven wrong, yet he has been attempted to be discredited by every mainstream pharmaceutical company in existence. It's a sad state of affairs.

There is someone close to my family who deals in natural remedies for cancer. One of those remedies is B17, and it works. My dad had quite extensive skin cancer, and as a result of natural treatments (which includes, but is not limited to B17), he is now cancer free. He has never had chemo, never had surgery to remove moles, never had them frozen off, never had any of that stuff, yet he is now cancer free.

But according to the pharmaceuticals, the treatment he took is supposed to not work. It's supposed to be a fake and a fraud. Yet I can tell you from experience that it does work. The medical system cannot explain my dad's recovery - to them it's a mystery.

For everyone who doubts, do the research, search the net for any counterclaim to B17. Every claim against apricot seeds is unfounded, yet aprocot seeds are still discredited. That is fact.
crystal sage
I've also heard of people who've cured their skin cancer with comfrey!!!

http://www.doctoryourself.com/comfrey_herb.html

CANCER, WOUNDS AND COMFREY

In an old issue of Let's Live (Oct.-Dec., 1958), H. E. Kirschner, M.D., wrote an almost unbelievable article about several important clinical uses of the comfrey plant (Symphytum officinale).

Let me tell you about it.

Dr. Kirschner used comfrey in his medical practice to promote the healing of ulcers and wounds. He traces the history of comfrey back to 1568 and W. Turner's Herball which said "of Comfrey Symphytum, the rootes are good if they be broken and dronken for them that spitte blood, and are bursten. The same, layd to, are good to glewe together freshe woundes. They are good to be layd to inflammation..." He then cites Gerard's 1597 Herball, which indicated comfrey for ulcers of the lungs and ulcers of the kidneys, and Parkinson's 1640 Theatrum Botanicum:
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"The rootes of Comfrey, taken fresh, beaten small, spread upon leather, and laid upon any place troubled with the gout, doe presently give ease of the paines and applied in the same manner, giveth ease to pained joynts, and profiteth very much for running and moist ulcers, gangrenes, mortifications and the like."

Most significant is a citation from Tournefort's 1719 Compleat Herbal, which tells of one who

"cured a certain person of a malignant ulcer, pronounced to be a cancer by the surgeons, and left by them as incurable, by applying twice a day the root of comfrey bruised, having first peeled off the external blackish bark or rind; but the cancer was not above eight or ten weeks standing." Even allowing for a misdiagnosis, this account is interesting.
Infinitemind
thanks friend. More natural cures. You should type in google search Kevin Trudeau s natural cures. It is a book on natural cures. The government doesnt want you to know the natural cures and buy drugs for the rest of your life.
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