Seems that in January 27th 1995, some scientists noticed a spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole. after a while they noticed that the fog did not change its formand did not move, so it couldn't be a storm, and decided to investigate.
They sent up a weather balloon, at the end of a rope, with some equipment attached. To their surprise the balloon immediately disappeared after entering the fog, although the rope hung there, as if still attached. After a few minutes the team pulled on the rope and the balloon reappeared. When they brought it back to the ground they were surprised to find that a chronometer on the balloon displayed the date as January 27, 1965, exactly 30 years earlier.
Strange isn't it?
The problem is, if we start going to the past or the future, aren't we trying to be God? Aren't we trying to change destiny? What if we go to the past, and change something that would completely change our life? Or worse, we wouldn't even be born?
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How would the time on a weather balloon change automatically?
It can't simply 'pick up' what date it is from feeling the air. It has to be changed manually. So unless there was a little man hiding in the fog, or it was warped to a different part of the world, that's a very silly story.
I'd like a source to the story.
It can't simply 'pick up' what date it is from feeling the air. It has to be changed manually. So unless there was a little man hiding in the fog, or it was warped to a different part of the world, that's a very silly story.
I'd like a source to the story.
here you go:
http://www.dandelionbooks.net/archives/the...plained_28.html
http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/wm04time.htm
And I wouldn't say it's a silly story. It's definitly impossible, or ilogical if you think about it...
http://www.dandelionbooks.net/archives/the...plained_28.html
http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/wm04time.htm
And I wouldn't say it's a silly story. It's definitly impossible, or ilogical if you think about it...
Thank you! A good read. I'll post the whole article:
Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told of how researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just an ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change in form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable of registering the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.
In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it earlier. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.
Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.
Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.
It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.
Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.
In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. While the machine only operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.
At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."
Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.
The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.
The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.
Strange that no TV news has reported that the CIA are currently funding trips back through time using thsi phenonina. This is definately strange, it sounds like something out of a movie, all a little to convieniant.
Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told of how researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just an ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change in form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable of registering the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.
In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it earlier. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.
Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.
Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.
It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.
Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.
In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. While the machine only operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.
At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."
Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.
The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.
The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.
Strange that no TV news has reported that the CIA are currently funding trips back through time using thsi phenonina. This is definately strange, it sounds like something out of a movie, all a little to convieniant.
I dunno... But it is weird...
I'm just a little frightned with all this time travelling. Nowadays, everybody is trying to be God. And, i don't know why, but I believe that if someone does that journey their life could change. And if their life's change, ours could too... It's all too confusing...
I'm just a little frightned with all this time travelling. Nowadays, everybody is trying to be God. And, i don't know why, but I believe that if someone does that journey their life could change. And if their life's change, ours could too... It's all too confusing...
Meh, if they change something in the past that affects us we wont know it.
Maybe someone did travel back yesterday, and say.. killed my original dad. As such my mother married a different man and had me with a different man, but i wouldn't know that cause to me it's just my life, yanno, i don't know this other father because he never existed because he was killed before i was born, even though it was a time traveller going back in time.
If something happens, our reality will just shift, we wont know it, the new relaity will just be normal. So i'm not to worried.
Maybe someone did travel back yesterday, and say.. killed my original dad. As such my mother married a different man and had me with a different man, but i wouldn't know that cause to me it's just my life, yanno, i don't know this other father because he never existed because he was killed before i was born, even though it was a time traveller going back in time.
If something happens, our reality will just shift, we wont know it, the new relaity will just be normal. So i'm not to worried.
I think that under the Antarctic ice we will find many interesting things.
PS. Not WE but CIA .
PS. Not WE but CIA .
To true. The ice hasn't always been there afterall.
Americans as well Russians have huge Antarctic bases ,under the disguise of monitoring the environment they propably allready went down to the surface of Antarctica and made some incredible discoveries.We will never know about them ofcourse.
I don't think so.
The world is in competition. What's the point in being better than someone if they don't know it? That was the whole point of the space-race. If you make an incredible discovery, you're going to want to let the people who didn't make one know about it so you can be better than them.
The world is in competition. What's the point in being better than someone if they don't know it? That was the whole point of the space-race. If you make an incredible discovery, you're going to want to let the people who didn't make one know about it so you can be better than them.
Agreed Burnside. That article (forgetting the proposterous content) is to vague to be taken seriously anyway. It reads like the conspiracy theories that many of us have become familiar with.
Plus, as Burnside stated previously, that article does NOT explain how the time on the balloon changed. Someone had to change it, the balloon doesn't know what year it is just by existing. Maybe the fog is thick with ionized air which caused the clock to reset itself back 30 years. That's a problem for the engineers, not time travelers
Plus, as Burnside stated previously, that article does NOT explain how the time on the balloon changed. Someone had to change it, the balloon doesn't know what year it is just by existing. Maybe the fog is thick with ionized air which caused the clock to reset itself back 30 years. That's a problem for the engineers, not time travelers
I want to go in that hole!!!!!
And trust me if the CIA and the government is involved, you wouldn't probably hear about it. Like they are going to have a mass media coverage of time travel, people will go hysterical, countries would fight over it. It would be like really bad. Sort of liek the dean koontz novel i read about natzis who found time travel and travel to the future to take over the world because they already know who will rule it
And trust me if the CIA and the government is involved, you wouldn't probably hear about it. Like they are going to have a mass media coverage of time travel, people will go hysterical, countries would fight over it. It would be like really bad. Sort of liek the dean koontz novel i read about natzis who found time travel and travel to the future to take over the world because they already know who will rule it
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| In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators. At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments." |
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| What's the point in being better than someone if they don't know it? |
exactly.
the whole thing sounds a little to Star Trek for me. so i say: BEH. next time make up a more realistic story.
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| Americans as well Russians have huge Antarctic bases ,under the disguise of monitoring the environment they propably allready went down to the surface of Antarctica and made some incredible discoveries |
im sure to some extent these really are for monitoring weather. this region of the world can have an ENORMOUS impact on everything else. it is important to keep a close eye on it. the left side want to believe: it is known that long long ago, in galaxy far, far, away, no wait.... that was another story. uh, tens of thousands of years ago, this part of the earth was suitable for inhabiting, maybe they found Atlantis there, and dont want you to know.
The terrible thing about this world is that people always believe they are under attack. Oh no, my government is decieving me!
No, it isn't. Your government is not doing anything except what you know about.
No, it isn't. Your government is not doing anything except what you know about.
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| Your government is not doing anything except what you know about |
Weeelllll, there are a few things that the government does that we don't know about, but it usually isn't anything overly important (or that we really need to know)
Well yeah, exactly.
And if you don't know, it's probably for your protection.
And if you don't know, it's probably for your protection.
You better watch out Burnside, you might end up as a candidate for recrutiment with "the Company". 
Maybe i already work for the company, and am trying to shift eyes away from the evil deeds and goings on behind the publics back..
trust your government ! trust the FBI ! trust the CIA ! --were looking out for your own good you know ! --please place YOUR firearms in the steel container---lol
That was the dumbest comment today.
Placing your firearms in a steal container WOULD be keeping people safe.
Crazy americans.
Placing your firearms in a steal container WOULD be keeping people safe.
Crazy americans.
Nah..crazy criminal americans would always find a way to get guns...much as I hate them and wish no one had them, if the bad guys got 'em, you gotta let the good guys have them too....
However I do agree that there isn't a covert government. They just aren't smart enough...dumb enough to get caught having affairs with and murdering interns, but smart enough to lead a covert government that even the most tenacious reporters can't prove? Nah
However I do agree that there isn't a covert government. They just aren't smart enough...dumb enough to get caught having affairs with and murdering interns, but smart enough to lead a covert government that even the most tenacious reporters can't prove? Nah
why does gov't have to be so f'ed up? ...why can't they just tell the one's who want to know...people should be left to their own discretion...gov't shouldn't always try to pull the wool over peoples eyes
And they don't. People for some reason think they do! The government has never done anything to harm it's citizens.
People outside the states know this, because they aren't paranoid gun-totling frenzies.
People outside the states know this, because they aren't paranoid gun-totling frenzies.
gov't has never done anything to harm it's citizens??...are you kidding?
Nope.
What have they done, exactly, to cause you harm?
Hidden Alien activity from you? Please.
What have they done, exactly, to cause you harm?
Hidden Alien activity from you? Please.
they have done nothing to me personally, but what about the people in Haiti..What about what Reagan did in Honduras...what about Hitler, Kim Jun-Il, Stalin, Polpot....gov't can hurt you by witholding info from you...but they have many other tactics
Good point. Those definately slipped my mind.
Except most of those were dicatorship, a government forced upon the people without their consent. And that's not the point we were making. The goverment in western culture is civilized, democratic, and although it may be full of lies and in constant pursuit of power, it's intentions for the people are good. It's what gets them re-elected.
Except most of those were dicatorship, a government forced upon the people without their consent. And that's not the point we were making. The goverment in western culture is civilized, democratic, and although it may be full of lies and in constant pursuit of power, it's intentions for the people are good. It's what gets them re-elected.
government's government....if it is "full of lies and in constant pursuit of power" how can their intentions for people be good?...who gets stepped on during their pursuit?
Their intentions are good because that's how they get re-elected.
The only people that get stepped on are the paranoid nobodies who think their government is out to kill them.
The only people that get stepped on are the paranoid nobodies who think their government is out to kill them.
they get re-elected because people don't know what's going on... we should all just put on our happy face and pretend that nothing is going on ...see where that gets us...
| QUOTE (BurnSide @ Aug 25 2004, 04:19 PM) |
| And they don't. People for some reason think they do! The government has never done anything to harm it's citizens. People outside the states know this, because they aren't paranoid gun-totling frenzies. |
Hey!! Careful what you say!!
Some of us are very nice, intelligent people. Geez. We don't all have guns and a good portion of us are actually sane....
Of course there are things that the government has been hiding from us. How can you say that ??? (at least in the us) The us has known about prison abuses since last november (there is proof), and they just uncovered that in the press. I am sure not with the government's approval.
I'd like to see Bush take a vacation to the time portal in Antarctica
Oh hes covering up the fact that he was there
Oh hes covering up the fact that he was there
burnside, im confused, are you talking about canadas government or ours?
of course the american government hides things from us. thats why it would be cool to be president, so you could know about all of the secret things going on the general public doesnt know about
of course the american government hides things from us. thats why it would be cool to be president, so you could know about all of the secret things going on the general public doesnt know about
Burnside, neither your, nor my government always has "our" best interest in mind all of the time, so before you try to rehash the gun rights argument again and begin to offend people for issues you do not fully understand, please keep these things that our loving government has done to its own people:
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The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Link
The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”
Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals
The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical care—almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before—these unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones, author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as “the longest nontherapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”
__________________________________________________________________
Nuke-test subjects get $10.3 million deal
Link
Fifty-two years after she was an unwitting experimental subject in a radioactive-iron study and 40 years after her 11-year old daughter died of cancer, Emma Craft claimed justice.
A federal judge in Nashville, Tenn., on Monday approved a $10.3 million settlement against Vanderbilt University to be split among Craft and other women in the study. The university's scientists conducted the study on some 800 pregnant women between 1945 and 1947.
The government detailed the experiments after The Albuquerque Tribune reported in 1993 that 18 people had been injected with radioactive plutonium in a similar tracer experiment. Reporter Eileen Welsome won a Pulitzer Prize for the story in 1994.
Only recently, with the forced release of Top Secret documents, have details been revealed about the unethical and inhumane radiation studies conducted during the Cold War years from 1944 to 1974. The initial story broke in November 1993 in a series of articles in the Albuquerque Tribune which identified the names of 18 Americans secretly injected with plutonium, a key ingredient of the atomic bomb and one of the most toxic substances known to man. Some, but not all, of the patients were terminally ill. This horrifying story by journalist Eileen Welsome (who later won a Pulitzer Prize) unleashed a storm of nationwide protest prompting Department of Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary to order the release of secret files and documents pertaining to these Cold War experiments.
The extremely dangerous plutonium experiment was performed under the auspices of the government’s Manhattan Project, which brought together a revered group of distinguished scientists to develop and test the atom bomb. The purpose of these secret experiments was to establish occupational standards for workers who would be producing plutonium and other radioactive ingredients for the nuclear energy industry.
Dept Of Energy Link
Duke University Article
Some of the classified government experiments included:
* Exposing more than 100 Alaskan villagers to radioactive iodine during the 1960s.
* Feeding 49 retarded and institutionalized teenagers radioactive iron and calcium in their cereal during the years 1946-1954.
* Exposing about 800 pregnant women in the late 1940s to radioactive iron to determine the effect on the fetus.
* Injecting 7 newborns (six were Black) with radioactive iodine.
* Exposing the testicles of more than 100 prisoners to cancer-causing doses of radiation. This experimentation continued into the early 1970s.
* Exposing almost 200 cancer patients to high levels of radiation from cesium and cobalt. The AEC finally stopped this experiment in 1974.
* Administering radioactive material to psychiatric patients in San Francisco and to prisoners in San Quentin.
* Administering massive doses of full body radiation to cancer patients hospitalized at the General Hospital in Cincinnati, Baylor College in Houston, Memorial Sloan-Kettering in New York City, and the US Naval Hospital in Bethesda, during the 1950s and 1960s. The experiment provided data to the military concerning how a nuclear attack might affect its troops.
* Exposing 29 patients, some with rheumatoid arthritis, to total body irradiation (100-300 rad dose) to obtain data for the military. This was conducted at the University of California Hospital in San Francisco.
Burnside, the list does go on and if you think that any government(Yours included) does not do things to it's subjects against their will then you are incredibly naive.
___________________________________________________________________
The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Link
The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”
Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals
The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical care—almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before—these unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones, author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as “the longest nontherapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”
__________________________________________________________________
Nuke-test subjects get $10.3 million deal
Link
Fifty-two years after she was an unwitting experimental subject in a radioactive-iron study and 40 years after her 11-year old daughter died of cancer, Emma Craft claimed justice.
A federal judge in Nashville, Tenn., on Monday approved a $10.3 million settlement against Vanderbilt University to be split among Craft and other women in the study. The university's scientists conducted the study on some 800 pregnant women between 1945 and 1947.
The government detailed the experiments after The Albuquerque Tribune reported in 1993 that 18 people had been injected with radioactive plutonium in a similar tracer experiment. Reporter Eileen Welsome won a Pulitzer Prize for the story in 1994.
Only recently, with the forced release of Top Secret documents, have details been revealed about the unethical and inhumane radiation studies conducted during the Cold War years from 1944 to 1974. The initial story broke in November 1993 in a series of articles in the Albuquerque Tribune which identified the names of 18 Americans secretly injected with plutonium, a key ingredient of the atomic bomb and one of the most toxic substances known to man. Some, but not all, of the patients were terminally ill. This horrifying story by journalist Eileen Welsome (who later won a Pulitzer Prize) unleashed a storm of nationwide protest prompting Department of Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary to order the release of secret files and documents pertaining to these Cold War experiments.
The extremely dangerous plutonium experiment was performed under the auspices of the government’s Manhattan Project, which brought together a revered group of distinguished scientists to develop and test the atom bomb. The purpose of these secret experiments was to establish occupational standards for workers who would be producing plutonium and other radioactive ingredients for the nuclear energy industry.
Dept Of Energy Link
Duke University Article
Some of the classified government experiments included:
* Exposing more than 100 Alaskan villagers to radioactive iodine during the 1960s.
* Feeding 49 retarded and institutionalized teenagers radioactive iron and calcium in their cereal during the years 1946-1954.
* Exposing about 800 pregnant women in the late 1940s to radioactive iron to determine the effect on the fetus.
* Injecting 7 newborns (six were Black) with radioactive iodine.
* Exposing the testicles of more than 100 prisoners to cancer-causing doses of radiation. This experimentation continued into the early 1970s.
* Exposing almost 200 cancer patients to high levels of radiation from cesium and cobalt. The AEC finally stopped this experiment in 1974.
* Administering radioactive material to psychiatric patients in San Francisco and to prisoners in San Quentin.
* Administering massive doses of full body radiation to cancer patients hospitalized at the General Hospital in Cincinnati, Baylor College in Houston, Memorial Sloan-Kettering in New York City, and the US Naval Hospital in Bethesda, during the 1950s and 1960s. The experiment provided data to the military concerning how a nuclear attack might affect its troops.
* Exposing 29 patients, some with rheumatoid arthritis, to total body irradiation (100-300 rad dose) to obtain data for the military. This was conducted at the University of California Hospital in San Francisco.
Burnside, the list does go on and if you think that any government(Yours included) does not do things to it's subjects against their will then you are incredibly naive.
this is soo interesting, but if it is true, why dont they do more reaserch on it.. why is it a one time thing and nobody in the world has heard of it.. ya no... and it happned in 95' scientists should be all over it.. i find it interesting though!
Is anyone here familiar with The Onion? Pravda is the Russian equivalent. Thereby, it's a parody folks; like duh!
You're not serious are you? For better or for worse, Pravda is the major newspaper in the Russian federation. It isn't a parody, which doesn't do much to excuse some of the articles that have come out on it.
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