BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 12:46 AM
yOU CAN ACTUALLY BUY, BUILD AND RUN cASINOS.
oops, holy capslock batman!
you can hire thugs to do your dirty work.
you can get tattoos and haircuts!
Shakezulah
Oct 15 2004, 12:49 AM
i think that whole fat or skinny thing is kinda cool. but itll interfere with a lot of things
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 12:50 AM
Yeah. Having to workout/eat healthy to stay inshape. Eat a ton of pizza, get fat! Kinda weird, but cool.
neo cloud 8900
Oct 15 2004, 12:19 PM
Before i said the gc sucks, but let me correct myself, its not completely terrible, i mean, its got resident evil games. But i think the xbox rules
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 02:28 PM
Sadly, the Xbox's horrible controller, terrible graphics system and lack of quality games makes me feel that the Dreamcast was better.
Shakezulah
Oct 15 2004, 02:50 PM
see erich? i told you other people agree that the Xbox has bad graphics. the only good games it realy has right now are Halo and Chronicles of riddick. Halo 2 will be awesome tho.
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 03:02 PM
I tried Halo.
I think i prefer Doom 2.
Riddick was fun though, but it's out on PS2 as well no? ABout 95% of Xbox games are ports from other systems. Why? Because most game manufacturers KNOW it's shitty and no one likes it, and concentrate more on other consoles first.
Look At GTA: San Andreas. Comes out the end of THIS MONTH on the PS2, doesn't come out on Xbox until sometime next year!!
Shakezulah
Oct 15 2004, 03:04 PM
Riddick isnt out on PS2. the graphics are waaay too advanced for that.
my friend(dv89000) thinks that GTA SA comes out right away on the Xbox. i told him it doesnt but he doesnt believe me.
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 03:09 PM
Well, he can check the offical site and get the release details.
Hell it comes out on PC before Xbox!!
Shakezulah
Oct 15 2004, 03:11 PM
why would they bring out the new GTA on Xbox right away when it took them 2 years to release 3 on it?
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 03:14 PM
lol good point that.
It's because the games are not made for Xbox. They are made for PS2 and are then simply PORTED over to the other system.
tendo
Oct 15 2004, 08:09 PM
hooray for the truth!!! gc does have a superior graphics engine...xbox was made more with mmorpgs in mind, with xbox live and all...with normal games n such, save a few, it sux...and gc does have sumwhat babyish games, but theres enuff quality games to make up for it...
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 08:12 PM
Since when do all videogames have to have gore and big guns anyway?
tendo
Oct 15 2004, 08:27 PM
very very tru...most of the best ever have no gore, and no guns
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 09:06 PM
Well, i wouldn't say best..
*cough*RE*cough*
Subtemperate
Oct 15 2004, 10:43 PM
Well I myself prefer x-box... I own ps2...gamecube and xbox...and really only buy games that come out on xbox....
Janiel
Oct 15 2004, 11:09 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Oct 15 2004, 11:06 AM)
*cough*RE*cough*
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*coughBRcough*
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 11:20 PM
Is bloodrayne on the GC??
Janiel
Oct 15 2004, 11:21 PM
Yup

but i heard that version has the worst gameplay out of all versions
(BR2 isnt going ot be on GC)
Hawk7886
Oct 15 2004, 11:41 PM
QUOTE(tendo @ Oct 15 2004, 10:09 AM)
hooray for the truth!!! gc does have a superior graphics engine...xbox was made more with mmorpgs in mind, with xbox live and all...with normal games n such, save a few, it sux...and gc does have sumwhat babyish games, but theres enuff quality games to make up for it...
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Xbox Live is NOT geared to MMORPGs, it was made for high-action games. Games like RTCW, SC:PT, Rainbox 6, and the upcoming Halo 2.
The Xbox was made for the age group it's targeted at. Around the 15-30 bracket. It's got the most capable system to run what designers want, with a huge corporation to give the designer as much budget as necessary. Basically, if you work hard, and know what you're doing, you can do anything.
Not to mention you can void your warrenty and turn your Xbox into a Linux machine. Cool.
The Gamecube is dying, sadly. No more Rated E games bouncing around everywhere...
BurnSide
Oct 15 2004, 11:44 PM
Gamecube dying?
Umm, dude, MANY games are becoming Gamecube-only as of late, simply because the PS2 and Xbox cannot handle them. Such as RE4, Xbox can't even come close to the specs that is needed to handle RE4.
The Gamecube has only just got big, and it's getting bigger and more popular with each game. The system that's dying is the Xbox, it was technologically primative before it was even released.
Janiel
Oct 15 2004, 11:45 PM
Uh oh.....Hawk's gonna get pissed.........
Hawk7886
Oct 15 2004, 11:55 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Oct 15 2004, 01:44 PM)
The system that's dying is the Xbox, it was technologically primative before it was even released.
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It's quite the other way around. The Gamecube was shot in the knee before it even left the gate. The reason why the Xbox's technology is a simple one: Cost. If you rigged up an Xbox to become a top-of-the-line PC-equivlent, it would cost thousands of dollars.
Sales of the Gamecubes are very low, indeed. Xbox is doing fine, although it is still behind the PS2. The PS2 easily dominates the market, but the financial backing behind the Xbox leaves its advertisements limitless. It can hit any audience it wants, all it has to do is flow cash into it.
"Sony has had an over 90% market share on home console hardware sales, and 95% on software total software sales for home consoles have been on a PlayStation console."
That's a nize chunk of the market... but the article from that quote is very outdated. Years old, actually. It's probably a bit different now.
The Gamecube's graphics are inferior. The PS2 can generate some massive stuff, if you note that most of the cinematics are DVD-generated.
BurnSide
Oct 16 2004, 12:14 AM
Inferior?
You obviosuly have no clue.
All you need to do is take one look at Resident Evil on the gamecube. There simply are no games, both from Xbox and PS2, that match the graphics system the Gamcube boasts. Not Halo, not GTA, not ANYTHING. That's what the Gamecube was made for, graphics. The specs speak for themselves, and if you can't believe that, just look at the gaming companies. Capcom has packed up and left the PS2 to rott with it's lame graphics system and has moved to the Gamecube because of it's awesome capabilities.
True there are certain games out there that run incredibly on the Xbox, but even these are simply ports from other systems. No one gives a damn about the Xbox, it's a lost cause.
Take GTA: SA. It's coming out on Xbox (ported) several months after it'll appear on the rest of the consoles. Why? Because Rockstar knows the main audience is in PS2, GC, even PC before Xbox.
It started out crap and it never got further than that.
Janiel
Oct 16 2004, 12:17 AM
GTA:SA will never come out on GC..........
the only GTA's on nintendo were GTA1 and 2
VC or 3 werent realised on GC...and they dont plan to
BurnSide
Oct 16 2004, 12:20 AM
You're completely right, i apologise.
The size wouldn't work with a GC. While GC focuses on graphics, big games are lost to it. Why, RE takes 2 disks!
Hawk7886
Oct 16 2004, 12:32 AM
Nintendo claims the GameCube can do 12 million polygons a second peak performance. That's pretty nice. Sega claims that Virtua
Fighter 4 runs at 63 million polygons a second on the PS2. Xbox can do 125 million.
Gamecube's at the bottom...
As for GTA? It's owned by Sony. Sony gets to say where it goes next. If they say, "Microsoft won't have it until December 2006." Then they won't.
As for Halo? Yes, Halo's graphics are far superior than Gamecube's. The Gamecube couldn't handle the processing, and it would bog down quite quickly. GTA on Xbox? Beautiful thing. It took a while before it arrived, but it was warmly welcomed. You could remove the hood of a car and actually SEE the depth of the engine.
The Xbox's specs are those surpasing a PC version of itself. It's a gaming machine. The technology itself may be a bit old and outdated, but the console makes full use of that.
If this board allowed HTML, I might be able to squash this down. I can't, however, so it has to stay large.
Halo 2, Retail Xbox, 30 fps, no bog-down.

Without any accessories, the Xbox pumps out video at a pretty low resolution. Sad on small TVs. With the high-def pack, that small resolution can go up to 1920x1080.
BurnSide
Oct 16 2004, 01:06 AM
But the graphics are sh**! Look at the picture, it's awful! Square edges, pixiation, you don't see any of that in Resident Evil 4 or even RE:Remake which was released 2 years ago.
I'm sorry but as far as i'm concerned, this 'next gen' console of yours obviously boasts more than it can do.
While as i said, the playability, size and speed of PS2/Xbox for exceeds anything GC can come up with, i haven't seen anything that remotely compares to the GC graphics engine and this screenshot certainly doesn't do it any praise. UT had better done environments.
Sorry. I'm not impressed.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. All i know is, Xbox/Ps2 etc simply cannot handle Resident Evil 4 and the like, and that's why GC pwns.
Dancing_Dumplings
Oct 16 2004, 01:12 AM
compared to the recent RE and SH games, halo isnt a masterpiece but its still a fun game

i praise nintendo for being able to stick so much graphic enhancements into a tiny box

but i couldnt choose which one comes first, ps2 or gc, it all depends on what games are on their plats. xbox is supposed to have the best graphics between all three of them, but im not sure about that anymore.
Hawk7886
Oct 16 2004, 01:22 AM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Oct 15 2004, 03:06 PM)
But the graphics are sh**! Look at the picture, it's awful! Square edges, pixiation, you don't see any of that in Resident Evil 4 or even RE:Remake which was released 2 years ago.
I'm sorry but as far as i'm concerned, this 'next gen' console of yours obviously boasts more than it can do.
While as i said, the playability, size and speed of PS2/Xbox for exceeds anything GC can come up with, i haven't seen anything that remotely compares to the GC graphics engine and this screenshot certainly doesn't do it any praise. UT had better done environments.
Sorry. I'm not impressed.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. All i know is, Xbox/Ps2 etc simply cannot handle Resident Evil 4 and the like, and that's why GC pwns.
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I guess it all breaks down to playability. Which games keep your attention the longest...
Magazine articles are also just opinions, if only opinions you pay for.
(Although UT's environments are just meant to have blood sprayed on them, that's an entirely different topic)
BurnSide
Oct 16 2004, 01:38 AM
Never read a magazine. I make all my own opinions through playing and interacting with them. I own a PS2 and Gamecube, and have played Xbox alot including Halo when i was deciding weather to get a GC or Xbox. I just wasn't impressed by anything Xbox had to offer, i disliked the controller, the games, the system itself.
You're right, i suppose it is what games keep your attention. While i've probably played Quake2 more times than i have posts, my heart lies with survival horror, and Gamecube cannot be beaten for that.
tendo
Oct 16 2004, 02:07 AM
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Well, i wouldn't say best..
*cough*RE*cough*
haha, how could i forget
_hAiLO_
Oct 19 2004, 02:28 AM
Shakezulah
Oct 19 2004, 02:31 AM
you probably thought that because Gamecube IS better than Xbox.
_hAiLO_
Oct 19 2004, 02:47 AM
NO NO NO!!!
Contrasting to specs, I think both consoles have their advantages and weak points, and what makes them very good sellers.
Its just that, Gamecube fits my description of how I want my games, how I want my console, it makes me more satisfied than playing an XBox....
QUOTE
I'm agreeing with Burnside...in all points
And that, I didn't know what I was saying....maybe most of his points were true, and some were probably over exagerated....
I'm not calling Gamecube better than the XBox.
I'm very sorry if you got me in the wrong way

.
Shakezulah
Oct 19 2004, 02:50 AM
its ok if you werent calling Gamecube better than Xbox. but I was.
_hAiLO_
Oct 19 2004, 02:55 AM
lol, sometimes I think that way too.....
I've played the XBox before and its okay....some people have presented its specs and kept telling me how superior it is.....o well, I think they are both superior...
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Its just that, Gamecube fits my description of how I want my games, how I want my console, it makes me more satisfied than playing an XBox....
I won't take that back...my description could have applied to many people over the world. I've played both consoles and I think Nintendo did a better job...
tendo
Oct 19 2004, 12:28 PM
im SOOOO glad that gamecube is having no part of the new porn games coming out...the man game? and the playboy mansion game? wtf? uncool. porn is horrible to begin with...(not that ive never dabbled

) but now its in games? what else could we gamers give to old stuffy nutsocks as ammo to say gaming is bad? unless we start making games where the point is to have sex with ppl, and u get points for raunch...i think we've hit the bottom... (i believe the downfall came with GTA...and picking up a whore, screwing her, then beating her to death when yer done, and stealing your money back. *this is not a bash against gta...i like that game*
Janiel
Oct 19 2004, 12:33 PM
i actually did an experiment....
i dled a porn game to see how the hell they work
(1. i dont like porn, 2. it was hentai, cartoon porn,)
and all i can say, is its disgusting...
why they threw porn into the gaming business is beyond me....
but that game i played was funny, tons of anime cliches

but i for one, now know how they make these games....
but i still dont understand the why
neo cloud 8900
Oct 19 2004, 12:55 PM
ive had this ongoing arguement withmy freind, (hereticdude) that xbox graphics are better than gamecubes. But after i think about th RE games for gc, i realize GC graphics are better.
Shakezulah
Oct 19 2004, 02:32 PM
FINALLY! my god it took you long enough to realize that! Xbox graphics suck compared to GC!
neo cloud 8900
Oct 19 2004, 02:45 PM
yes im sorry ive realized the error of my ways
Shakezulah
Oct 19 2004, 02:49 PM

the only game that has good graphics for Xbox is Riddick
BurnSide
Oct 19 2004, 04:19 PM
I'm sure that the Xbox's full potential has not been realised yet. The games coming out on it are sloppy and half-assed, they could have been done alot better.
Then again, that seems to be the new wave doesn't it. Crappy half-assed games on all consoles.
tendo
Oct 19 2004, 09:33 PM
haha, rite on BS
Janiel
Oct 19 2004, 09:41 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Oct 19 2004, 06:19 AM)
Then again, that seems to be the new wave doesn't it. Crappy half-assed games on all consoles.
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yea, the sims2 was half assed in ways (little bugs that could have been esily fixed)
BurnSide
Oct 19 2004, 09:42 PM
Not to mention THUG2, SH4 etc.
Janiel
Oct 19 2004, 09:52 PM
we could go on and on and on....
BurnSide
Oct 19 2004, 10:12 PM
I'll say it again.
MGS3 and RE4. If they suck,. my GC and PS2 are going for a short fall and a swim in the river.
tendo
Oct 19 2004, 10:19 PM
hahaha, DONT HURT THE CONSOLE!!! theyre victims of poor circumstance! what are the bugs in sims 2? my friend plays it alot, so now i can point them out and make fun of her haha
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