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Starlyte
SETI@home is a scientific experiment that uses Internet-connected computers in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). You can participate by running a free program that downloads and analyzes radio telescope data.

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The Problem — Mountains of Data

Most of the SETI programs in existence today, including those at UC Berkeley build large computers that analyze that data from the telescope in real time. None of these computers look very deeply at the data for weak signals nor do they look for a large class of signal types (which we'll discuss further on...) The reason for this is because they are limited by the amount of computer power available for data analysis. To tease out the weakest signals, a great amount of computer power is necessary. It would take a monstrous supercomputer to get the job done. SETI programs could never afford to build or buy that computing power. There is a trade-off that they can make. Rather than a huge computer to do the job, they could use a smaller computer but just take longer to do it. But then there would be lots of data piling up. What if they used LOTS of small computers, all working simultaneously on different parts of the analysis? Where can the SETI team possibly find thousands of computers they'd need to analyze the data continuously streaming from Arecibo?

The UC Berkeley SETI team has discovered that there are already thousands of computers that might be available for use. Most of these computers sit around most of the time with toasters flying across their screens accomplishing absolutely nothing and wasting electricity to boot. This is where SETI@home (and you!) come into the picture. The SETI@home project hopes to convince you to allow us to borrow your computer when you aren't using it and to help us "…search out new life and new civilizations." We'll do this with a screen saver that can go get a chunk of data from us over the internet, analyze that data, and then report the results back to us. When you need your computer back, our screen saver instantly gets out of the way and only continues it's analysis when you are finished with your work.

It's an interesting and difficult task. There's so much data to analyze that it seems impossible! Fortunately, the data analysis task can be easily broken up into little pieces that can all be worked on separately and in parallel. None of the pieces depends on the other pieces. Also, there is only a finite amount of sky that can be seen from Arecibo. In the next two years the entire sky as seen from the telescope will be scanned three times. We feel that this will be enough for this project. By the time we've looked at the sky three times, there will be new telescopes, new experiments, and new approaches to SETI. We hope that you will be able to participate in them too!
MichaelS
It's a very good program, cool looking screen saver too. original.gif
Unorthodox Thesis
SETI is dead!

Now, its called Project Phoenix.
Oh, and Area51 moved their stuff to another
underground facility.
BurnSide
Norman knows this firsthand since he's been down there and seen it.
Unorthodox Thesis
Haven't you heard of the Biker's to Dreamland?
We did that! We got on our bikes and rode a couple of
miles from Las Vegas around to a specific mountain
where you can take pictures! Now, you'll get stopped
soon or later cuz they used to have security choppers
flying all over the place. But anyway.. If you stay there
long enough... Especially during the moving, you can see
some GREAT stuff! (in a distance) disgust.gif
Starlyte
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SETI is dead!

Now, its called Project Phoenix.
Oh, and Area51 moved their stuff to another
underground facility.


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Maybe you should pick up the latest copy of Astronomy Magazine. It has a great article about SETI and the improvements being made to the project.

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The cover story in the September issue of Astronomy Magazine is "Is Anyone Out There?", penned by Seth Shostak.

In Seth's review of current SETI efforts, you can learn more about both optical and radio searches that will be getting underway shortly, including efforts with the Allen Telescope Array, the new Berkeley projects, and the Harvard optical sky survey.  Seth also considers what  might be the chances for finding a signal.

Also in this issue is an enlightening interview with Lori Marino, who does research on the evolution of intelligence at Emory University and the SETI Institute.  You can read her thoughts about why intelligence may be an ubiquitous phenomenon.
BurnSide
Norman every single little thing you say is their completely absurd, or proven false. We've all long since stopped believing a word you say. Way to go.

Thanks for the link Ms. Kaia
Unorthodox Thesis
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Astronomy Magazine

???? No, no, no, no! You don't read magazines to find out the truth!
Anything that the government cover-up can influence is infected and
deceptive! The true SETI became Project Phoenix! The old SETI is
just there to pacify the public. Sometimes you just have to get on your
bike, and GO and see the truth for yourself!
MichaelS
QUOTE (Kaia Pythia @ Aug 26 2004, 08:49 AM)
Maybe you should pick up the latest copy of Astronomy Magazine. It has a great article about SETI and the improvements being made to the project.

I've got that issue, where they talk about some of the improved radio telescope arrays they're building, etc... pretty good article. original.gif
Fluffybunny
It's okay Norman,

go to your happy place...deep breath...

I would recommend that we do a search for intelligent life on earth first before we get carried away...lets see what we come up with before commiting resources to what could be a pointless search...
MichaelS
QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ Aug 26 2004, 09:02 AM)
It's okay Norman,

go to your happy place...deep breath...

I would recommend that we do a search for intelligent life on earth first before we get carried away...lets see what we come up with before commiting resources to what could be a pointless search...

Searching for intellegance on Earth seems the bigger waste to me when you consider the state of the world lately...
reese2
Well, I don't agree with not committing a good deal of funds to searching elsewhere, not only in our solar system, but outside of that, as well.. I a huge supporter of searching for extra-terrestrial intelligence.



Reese
MichaelS
Knowing our luck, we'll find a civilization that has based itself around Monty Python... not that that's a bad thing of course.
reese2
Well, that would be odd... But, so would another Stewey... grin2.gif tongue.gif


I think it is very important to study these things, because after all, they do surround our world. We should do it in the hopes of finding anything, even the smallest form of life. Maybe not intelligent life, but finding even the smallest thing, could tell us huge amounts. I find it very important, on so many fronts.
Starlyte
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QUOTE 
Astronomy Magazine


???? No, no, no, no! You don't read magazines to find out the truth!
Anything that the government cover-up can influence is infected and
deceptive! The true SETI became Project Phoenix! The old SETI is
just there to pacify the public. Sometimes you just have to get on your
bike, and GO and see the truth for yourself!


And this, directly from SETI's website:

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Project Phoenix General Overview

Project Phoenix was the world's most sensitive and comprehensive search for extraterrestrial intelligence. It was an effort to detect extraterrestrial civilizations by listening for radio signals that were either being deliberately beamed our way, or were inadvertently transmitted from another planet. Phoenix was the successor to the ambitious NASA SETI program that was cancelled by a budget-conscious Congress in 1993. Phoenix began observations in February, 1995 using the Parkes 210 foot radio telescope in New South Wales, Australia. This was the largest radio telescope in the Southern Hemisphere.

Following the southern observing campaign, the project turned its attention to northern stars. Appropriately, this phase brought the search back to its roots at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia. The 140 Foot Telescope is only a short distance from the antenna used by Frank Drake in Project Ozma. Project Phoenix operated in Green Bank from September 1996 through April 1998, using the telescope about 50% of the time. As the primary instrument in Green Bank, the antenna was shared with other astronomers.

Phoenix doesn't scan the whole sky. Rather, it scrutinizes the vicinities of nearby, sun-like stars. Such stars are most likely to host long-lived planets capable of supporting life. We naturally include stars that are known to have planets. There are about one thousand stars targeted for observation by Project Phoenix. All are within 200 light-years distance.

Because millions of radio channels are simultaneously monitored by Phoenix, most of the "listening" is done by computers. Nonetheless, astronomers are required to make critical decisions about signals that look intriguing.

Phoenix looks for signals between 1,000 and 3,000 MHz. Signals that are at only one spot on the radio dial (narrow-band signals) are the "signature" of an intelligent transmission. The spectrum searched by Phoenix is broken into very narrow 1 Hz-wide channels, so two billion channels are examined for each target star.

Observations are currently being made during two three-week sessions each year using the 1,000 foot radio telescope at Arecibo, in Puerto Rico. During the observing sessions, the astronomer on duty post reports.

By mid-1999, Phoenix had examined about half of the stars on its "hit list." So far, no clearly extraterrestrial transmissions have been found. But the faint whine that would betray an alien civilization might be heard tomorrow.

Project Phoenix is sustained entirely through private funding.


And:

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Our SETI Projects
   
Allen Telescope Array

The Allen Telescope Array will consist of approximately 350 6.1-meter offset Gregorian dishes arrayed at the Hat Creek Radio Observatory site. Given the number of antennas and large size of the primary beam (approximately 4 degrees at 21 cm wavelength), this array will have an unprecedented amount of flexibility in observing. 
   
Project Phoenix

Project Phoenix was the world's most sensitive and comprehensive search for extraterrestrial intelligence. It was an effort to detect extraterrestrial civilizations by listening for radio signals that were either being deliberately beamed our way, or were inadvertently transmitted from another planet. 
   
Optical SETI

California astronomers are broadening the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) with a new experiment to look for powerful light pulses beamed our way from other star systems. 
   
   
Interstellar Message Composition

The SETI Institute's program in interstellar message composition addresses some of the most critical questions humankind will face if we detect extraterrestrial intelligence: Should we reply? If we do, what should we say? How can we create messages that would be understood on other worlds?


You can find more information about these SETI projects here: CLICK HERE

In conclusion, you may notice above the Project Phoenix is just one of the many projects that have been implemented by SETI.

P.S. Norman: Astronomy Magazine is not some fly-by-night publication. I read it cover to cover every month, and it is a very respected and informational magazine.
MichaelS
QUOTE (reese2 @ Aug 26 2004, 09:23 AM)
Well, that would be odd... But, so would another Stewey... grin2.gif tongue.gif

Great merciful Fates- another me? The horror! The horror! laugh.gif
Axle13
Thanks for the link, I installed the program. Does anyone have the link for a similar program related to cancer? I can't remember the address.

Edit: nm- check here: http://www.iwoc.co.uk/cure.html
Aquaryus
I might be a little late with this, but...

Mysterious signals from 1000 light years away
19:00 01 September 04
Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition

In February 2003, astronomers involved in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) pointed the massive radio telescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, at around 200 sections of the sky.

The same telescope had previously detected unexplained radio signals at least twice from each of these regions, and the astronomers were trying to reconfirm the findings. The team has now finished analysing the data, and all the signals seem to have disappeared. Except one, which has got stronger.

This radio signal, now seen on three separate occasions, is an enigma. It could be generated by a previously unknown astronomical phenomenon. Or it could be something much more mundane, maybe an artefact of the telescope itself.

But it also happens to be the best candidate yet for a contact by intelligent aliens in the nearly six-year history of the SETI@home project, which uses programs running as screensavers on millions of personal computers worldwide to sift through signals picked up by the Arecibo telescope.


Absorb and emit


“It’s the most interesting signal from SETI@home,” says Dan Werthimer, a radio astronomer at the University of California, Berkeley (UCB) and the chief scientist for SETI@home. “We’re not jumping up and down, but we are continuing to observe it.”

Named SHGb02+14a, the signal has a frequency of about 1420 megahertz. This happens to be one of the main frequencies at which hydrogen, the most common element in the universe, readily absorbs and emits energy.

Some astronomers have argued that extraterrestrials trying to advertise their presence would be likely to transmit at this frequency, and SETI researchers conventionally scan this part of the radio spectrum.

SHGb02+14a seems to be coming from a point between the constellations Pisces and Aries, where there is no obvious star or planetary system within 1000 light years. And the transmission is very weak.

“We are looking for something that screams out ‘artificial’,” says UCB researcher Eric Korpela, who completed the analysis of the signal in April. “This just doesn’t do that, but it could be because it is distant.”


Unknown signature


The telescope has only observed the signal for about a minute in total, which is not long enough for astronomers to analyse it thoroughly. But, Korpela thinks it unlikely SHGb02+14a is the result of any obvious radio interference or noise, and it does not bear the signature of any known astronomical object.

That does not mean that only aliens could have produced it. “It may be a natural phenomenon of a previously undreamed-of kind like I stumbled over,” says Jocelyn Bell Burnell of the University of Bath, UK.

It was Bell Burnell who in 1967 noticed a pulsed radio signal which the research team at the time thought was from extraterrestrials but which turned out to be the first ever sighting of a pulsar.

There are other oddities. For instance, the signal’s frequency is drifting by between eight to 37 hertz per second. “The signal is moving rapidly in frequency and you would expect that to happen if you are looking at a transmitter on a planet that’s rotating very rapidly and where the civilisation is not correcting the transmission for the motion of the planet,” Korpela says.

This does not, however, convince Paul Horowitz, a Harvard University astronomer who looks for alien signals using optical telescopes. He points out that the SETI@home software corrects for any drift in frequency.


Fishy and puzzling


The fact that the signal continues to drift after this correction is “fishy”, he says. “If [the aliens] are so smart, they’ll adjust their signal for their planet’s motion.”

The relatively rapid drift of the signal is also puzzling for other reasons. A planet would have to be rotating nearly 40 times faster than Earth to have produced the observed drift; a transmitter on Earth would produce a signal with a drift of about 1.5 hertz per second.

What is more, if telescopes are observing a signal that is drifting in frequency, then each time they look for it they should most likely encounter it at a slightly different frequency. But in the case of SHGb02+14a, every observation has first been made at 1420 megahertz, before it starts drifting. “It just boggles my mind,” Korpela says.

The signal could be an artefact that, for some reason, always appears to be coming from the same point in the sky. The Arecibo telescope has a fixed dish reflector and scans the skies by changing the position of its receiver relative to the dish.

When the receiver reaches a certain position, it might just be able to reflect waves from the ground onto the dish and then back to itself, making it seem as if the signal was coming from space.

“Perhaps there is an object on the ground near the telescope emitting at about this frequency,” Korpela says. This could be confirmed by using a different telescope to listen for SHGb02+14a.


Possible fraud


There is also the possibility of fraud by someone hacking the SETI@home software to make it return evidence for an extraterrestrial transmission. However, SHGb02+14a was seen on two different occasions by different SETI@home users, and those calculations were confirmed by others.

Then the signal was seen a third time by the SETI@home researchers. The unusual characteristics of the signal also make it unlikely that someone is playing a prank, Korpela says. “As I can’t think of any way to make a signal like this, I can’t think of any way to fake it.”

David Anderson, director of SETI@home, remains sceptical but curious about the signal. ”It’s unlikely to be real but we will definitely be re-observing it.” Bell Burnell agrees that it is worth persisting with. “If they can see it four, five or six times it really begins to get exciting,” she says.

It is already exciting for IT engineers Oliver Voelker of Logpoint in Nuremberg, Germany and Nate Collins of Farin and Associates in Madison, Wisconsin, who found the signal.

Collins wonders how his bosses will react to company computers finding aliens. “I might have to explain a little further about just how much I was using [the computers],” he says.

Eugenie Samuel Reich

Here is the link: SETI finds signal of interest

And this article will also make you wonder:CONTACT! Canadian Crop Circle

First article was posted 9/4/2004, second article posted 9/4/2003... Conincidence?
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